I love the idea of cultural armor and I don’t mind spending time to make 120G. I actually want to get T1-T3 for all five races and get the Emporer’s New Wardrobe achievement. But seriously, if anet wants to make it the most expensive armor in the game (straight gold cost) and challenge us to raise about 650G then T3 should hands down be exotic armor. This is just silly in my opinion. Please change it!
By making the stats suck, ANET has made it clear that the only people they want buying cultural armor are the people who like its looks and are willing to transmute it onto something with better stats.
How many of you would be happy if the armor is exotic, but exotic with a horrible (for your build) stat combination ?
Make the stats good and ANET has two choices:
– Have the vendors stock a large list, then have to deal with people who accidentally bought the wrong item.
– Divide the people who buy it into groups: Those who like the stats, and those who don’t.
Ah, figures. Well for me I could care less about Ascended. Either way, T3 should be Exotic or Ascended. To have it at Rare is just ridiculous.
Until you start looking at cultural armor as a way to drive sales of transmutation stones. Then giving them lower stats makes sense.
Though I’d have given them level 1 stats, just to make it clear to everyone that you shouldn’t be buying it for the stats.
By making the stats suck, ANET has made it clear that the only people they want buying cultural armor are the people who like its looks and are willing to transmute it onto something with better stats.
How many of you would be happy if the armor is exotic, but exotic with a horrible (for your build) stat combination ?
Make the stats good and ANET has two choices:
– Have the vendors stock a large list, then have to deal with people who accidentally bought the wrong item.
– Divide the people who buy it into groups: Those who like the stats, and those who don’t.
Ah, figures. Well for me I could care less about Ascended. Either way, T3 should be Exotic or Ascended. To have it at Rare is just ridiculous.
Until you start looking at cultural armor as a way to drive sales of transmutation stones. Then giving them lower stats makes sense.
Though I’d have given them level 1 stats, just to make it clear to everyone that you shouldn’t be buying it for the stats.
I agree with this completely. I bought my t3 armor with the idea in mind that I would transmute it onto armor that had the stats on want. And when they release the full sets of ascended armor I will do it again (depending on how the ascended armor looks).
And I haven’t spent a single penny on fine transmutation stones. I have about 15 sitting in my bank just from black lion chests I’ve opened.
Make the stats good and ANET has two choices:
– Have the vendors stock a large list, then have to deal with people who accidentally bought the wrong item…
Exotic karma and dungeon armor is set up this way, why not cultural? If Anet deems this is a suitable solution for other sets then it should be fine for cultural too.
Until you start looking at cultural armor as a way to drive sales of transmutation stones. Then giving them lower stats makes sense.
I already thought about this, but honestly, so few people will ever get T3 armor compared to how many people play the game. T3 armor will not “drive” up the sales of transtones by much. They could make 100x that by just promoting a gem store item.
Though I’d have given them level 1 stats, just to make it clear to everyone that you shouldn’t be buying it for the stats.
This is the point of the post. For someone taking the time to earn enough gold to buy it and we are left with crap stats and we shouldn’t be. Are players forced to transmutate their Karma armor after earning and spending 252,000 karma? Are players forced to transmutate their exotic dungeon armor after 30 dungeon runs for tokens? NO. So why should people be penalized for going after cultural armor?
Exotic would be nice, available for Karma would be even better.
The value of it would go down if you made it buyable with Karma.
Why? It would still look the same…
Because it’s generally easier to earn karma than gold (daily and monthly rewards). If it went to karma, way more people could purchase it. So with more people wearing it, it would have less value as T3 armor set.
Exotic would be nice, available for Karma would be even better.
The value of it would go down if you made it buyable with Karma.
Why? It would still look the same…
No **** Sherlock.
But Karma is such an easy currency to get compared to gold, so a lot and a lot more people would run around in Tier 3 making it less rare to be seen than now.
Though I’d have given them level 1 stats, just to make it clear to everyone that you shouldn’t be buying it for the stats.
This is the point of the post. For someone taking the time to earn enough gold to buy it and we are left with crap stats and we shouldn’t be. Are players forced to transmutate their Karma armor after earning and spending 252,000 karma? Are players forced to transmutate their exotic dungeon armor after 30 dungeon runs for tokens? NO. So why should people be penalized for going after cultural armor?
How good the armor looks is up to the player and subject to personal opinion. Whether or not you like the looks has nothing to do with the topic. Any armor that cost 120G to get should have, at minimal, exotic stats.
How good the armor looks is up to the player and subject to personal opinion. Whether or not you like the looks has nothing to do with the topic. Any armor that cost 120G to get should have, at minimal, exotic stats.
Why? It exists for appearance reasons, there’s no need for it to have an orange name or better stats.
It’s a long term goal basically, something for people to go for, just because some people can’t get 120 gold instantly it doesn’t mean it should be nerfed or buffed.
Why? It exists for appearance reasons, there’s no need for it to have an orange name or better stats.
It’s a long term goal basically, something for people to go for, just because some people can’t get 120 gold instantly it doesn’t mean it should be nerfed or buffed.
How is it any different from Dungeon or Karma armor which are both long term goals and come with exotic stats? They are all for looks. And the other two come in exotic. That is why it’s a little ridiculous.
It’s a long term goal basically, something for people to go for, just because some people can’t get 120 gold instantly it doesn’t mean it should be nerfed or buffed.
How is it any different from Dungeon or Karma armor which are both long term goals and come with exotic stats? They are all for looks. And the other two come in exotic. That is why it’s a little ridiculous.
Because Dungeon armours and Karma armours are not long term goals, that is why they added ascended gear, or at least is going to, and as said, Dungeon tokens and Karma is no hard currency to earn while gold is pretty much sacred.
And if it is “ridiculous” there’s no reason for people to buy it or even look at it if they don’t really want to go for it.
This is the point of the post. For someone taking the time to earn enough gold to buy it and we are left with crap stats and we shouldn’t be. Are players forced to transmutate their Karma armor after earning and spending 252,000 karma? Are players forced to transmutate their exotic dungeon armor after 30 dungeon runs for tokens? NO. So why should people be penalized for going after cultural armor?
Uh. Yes, they are, if they don’t have the stats they want. I want CoF looks with Power/Vit/Toughness stats? I have to transmute either AC armor or Invaders (WvW) armor to get that (which I have done.) What’s the big deal with having to transmute an armor set to get noth the stats and the looks you want? That’s the whole point!
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Uh. Yes, they are, if they don’t have the stats they want. I want CoF looks with Power/Vit/Toughness stats? I have to transmute either AC armor or Invaders (WvW) armor to get that (which I have done.) What’s the big deal with having to transmute an armor set to get noth the stats and the looks you want? That’s the whole point!
Yes, we have transtones for this reason, so you can have the stats you want. But you shouldn’t be forced to. Right now, dungeon and karma armor comes in exotic, with 3 different stat options. cultural comes in rare with 1 stat option. They are all equally long term armors. why should one be neglected?
Uh. Yes, they are, if they don’t have the stats they want. I want CoF looks with Power/Vit/Toughness stats? I have to transmute either AC armor or Invaders (WvW) armor to get that (which I have done.) What’s the big deal with having to transmute an armor set to get noth the stats and the looks you want? That’s the whole point!
Yes, we have transtones for this reason, so you can have the stats you want. But you shouldn’t be forced to. Right now, dungeon and karma armor comes in exotic, with 3 different stat options. cultural comes in rare with 1 stat option. They are all equally long term armors. why should one be neglected?
Caudecus’s Manor gear do not have Power / Vit / Tough stats, I must farm another Dungeon to get that gear, and then farm Caudecus’s Manor for the looks.
But I farmed AC to get the pow/vit/tough and then farmed gold to get Tier 3 looks.
Uh. Yes, they are, if they don’t have the stats they want. I want CoF looks with Power/Vit/Toughness stats? I have to transmute either AC armor or Invaders (WvW) armor to get that (which I have done.) What’s the big deal with having to transmute an armor set to get noth the stats and the looks you want? That’s the whole point!
Yes, we have transtones for this reason, so you can have the stats you want. But you shouldn’t be forced to. Right now, dungeon and karma armor comes in exotic, with 3 different stat options. cultural comes in rare with 1 stat option. They are all equally long term armors. why should one be neglected?
your not getting the point of t3 armor it seems
there not armor for stat , its a Gold Sink nothing more nothing less
making them exotic would remove its entire point,
dungeon gear are not long term item ( unless 1 day of doin dungeon is a long term for you)
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Its not that karma is any easier than gold to get, its that there are ton of gold sinks and almost nothing to spend karma on in comparison. Having it cost karma would be fine if there were a bunch of other desirable things that also cost karma for it to compete with.
Exotic would be nice, available for Karma would be even better.
The value of it would go down if you made it buyable with Karma.
Why? It would still look the same…
No **** Sherlock.
But Karma is such an easy currency to get compared to gold, so a lot and a lot more people would run around in Tier 3 making it less rare to be seen than now.
Dont’t worry, as soon as the ascended (and legendary) armor hits the game, all the prestige value of T3 will disappear overnight anyway. In fact, it’s already disappearing, seeing as one ascended backpiece alone (not upgraded) is worth over half T3 set.
People that are in T3 for prestige should be ready to move on soon. People who were after it for looks will not care.
Actions, not words.
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Exotic would be nice, available for Karma would be even better.
The value of it would go down if you made it buyable with Karma.
Why? It would still look the same…
No **** Sherlock.
But Karma is such an easy currency to get compared to gold, so a lot and a lot more people would run around in Tier 3 making it less rare to be seen than now.
Dont’t worry, as soon as the ascended (and legendary) armor hits the game, all the prestige value of T3 will disappear overnight anyway. In fact, it’s already disappearing, seeing as one ascended backpiece alone (not upgraded) is worth over half T3 set.
People that are in T3 for prestige should be ready to move on soon. People who were after it for looks will not care.
Uhm, why would it become less rare because they add Ascended and/or Legendary gear?
It will just become even more special if people don’t want to go for it because they must go for Ascended/Legendary gear.
Exotic would be nice, available for Karma would be even better.
The value of it would go down if you made it buyable with Karma.
Why? It would still look the same…
No **** Sherlock.
But Karma is such an easy currency to get compared to gold, so a lot and a lot more people would run around in Tier 3 making it less rare to be seen than now.
Dont’t worry, as soon as the ascended (and legendary) armor hits the game, all the prestige value of T3 will disappear overnight anyway. In fact, it’s already disappearing, seeing as one ascended backpiece alone (not upgraded) is worth over half T3 set.
People that are in T3 for prestige should be ready to move on soon. People who were after it for looks will not care.
Uhm, why would it become less rare because they add Ascended and/or Legendary gear?
It will just become even more special if people don’t want to go for it because they must go for Ascended/Legendary gear.
I’m not quite sure you know how it works.
Oh, I know – it will become the “i can’t afford ascended gear so i went for T3 cultural” kind of prestige for those that associate skins with status.
Actions, not words.
Remember, remember, 15th of November
T3 gear is strictly for looks, and might I add, the Sylvari T3 heavy set (pieces at least) look freaking awesome. I’m combining the T3 gloves and helm with the T2 chest and legs, and then combining those with the TA shoulders and shoes, looks epic.
Exotic would be nice, available for Karma would be even better.
The value of it would go down if you made it buyable with Karma.
Why? It would still look the same…
No **** Sherlock.
But Karma is such an easy currency to get compared to gold, so a lot and a lot more people would run around in Tier 3 making it less rare to be seen than now.
Dont’t worry, as soon as the ascended (and legendary) armor hits the game, all the prestige value of T3 will disappear overnight anyway. In fact, it’s already disappearing, seeing as one ascended backpiece alone (not upgraded) is worth over half T3 set.
People that are in T3 for prestige should be ready to move on soon. People who were after it for looks will not care.
Uhm, why would it become less rare because they add Ascended and/or Legendary gear?
It will just become even more special if people don’t want to go for it because they must go for Ascended/Legendary gear.
I’m not quite sure you know how it works.
Oh, I know – it will become the “i can’t afford ascended gear so i went for T3 cultural” kind of prestige for those that associate skins with status.
I suppose you’re one of these really poor ones who can’t afford Tier 3 nor Ascended rings and backpacks.
I guess having “rare” stats makes the armor at least usable instead of having no stats at all like guild armor.
In my opinion, the worst thing is once “skinning” your set of armor, you are stuck. Unless you destroy the armor or the skin, you cannot change your look.
Why not have a “skins” storage location separate from your worn inventory? You could change armor all you want and have any skin in your storage actually appear on your character.
Rather than exotic or ascended statted, I think the cultural armors (t3 especially) should be pure skin items. No stats, 1 free transmute with a suitable item of your choice.
Edit: Their level requirements could also then be removed.
Rather than exotic or ascended statted, I think the cultural armors (t3 especially) should be pure skin items. No stats, 1 free transmute with a suitable item of your choice.
Edit: Their level requirements could also then be removed.
lvl requirements? you can give 120g to a lvl 2 and buy T3 to transmute it onto lvl 1 armor if you want to… or a new player could buy a bunch of gems with real $$ and convert to gold and wear T3 from lvl 2 – so prestigious!
speaking of t3, whats the name of the golden spike-ish armor every warrior wearing in toons creation is?
all i see for t3 cultural heavy human is the guardian set?
T3 is about the look, not the stats. You’re supposed to transmute that stuff.
This… why spend 120g on T3 cultural exotics when you can spend around 20g or less (depending on the market) on a full exotic armor set with the same stat combinations (if you were really dead set on those particular stats)?
T3 is about the look, not the stats. You’re supposed to transmute that stuff.
This… why spend 120g on T3 cultural exotics when you can spend around 20g or less (depending on the market) on a full exotic armor set with the same stat combinations (if you were really dead set on those particular stats)?
Answer… it’s about the looks, not the stats
Yeah, it will take a LOT less time to get a full set of exotics than it will to save enough gold to get the T3. This basically “screams” that T3 is really only about the look, and they never intended it to be a long term set of gear, statwise.
