Guild Wars 2

Hey everyone. As many of us Im addicted to trading post. I have spent like 80% of last year sitting in Rata Sum and the airship of my ingame time. I just cant help it, I hoard items, a lot of items and then Im not using them at all. I got no legendary and I dont even have tousands of gold. All gold I earn I turn into materials and I just… Cant stop doing it. I see a lot of people saying about amazing 10g per hour from doing something else. I’ve never reached that point when trying so I am asking for help now.

I got myself maxed Magic Find (like it wasn’t enough I farmed over 1,5kk of luck above that just in case they increase it anytime or let us use it for something else – screeny) but it doesn’t help playing trading post. Question is – is there any way I can use that to get that 8-10g per hour simply playing the game instead of trading post?

There is less and less mobs droping loot from the events, even in fractals I think I got like 2 greens last night over the entire run from mobs, all other was from chests. I’d love the fact of farming mobs for materials but that is not efficient – DR hitting after like 25 minutes of doing same circle and even with maxed mf you dont get that many materials.

I just… Im just looking for something in guild wars that will let me feel like Im being rewarded. I really REALLY need to stop wasting my time sitting on the front of the NPC, with loads of spreadsheets on the other screen to fill >.<

I dont like dungeons farming, I think it would be just the same as TP farming after a while, I’d hate it so much and would be doing it only for profit.

Thanks for any advices.

Stonish.7532:

I dont like dungeons farming, I think it would be just the same as TP farming after a while, I’d hate it so much and would be doing it only for profit.

Thanks for any advices.

Define “dungeon farming.” I define it as repeatedly running the same short dungeon paths at high speed for max profits. That gets boring.

But there are a lot of dungeon paths that make variety pretty decent. If you want to simply add profitable variety to your gameplay, just run a few of those each day. Change it up. Run all 3 paths of 2 different dungeons. The next day, same thing with different dungeons.

Join a guild that does World Boss circuits. Then pop in and out of them as you want to down some world bosses for big chests.

Join TP Anonymous. I hear they can help.

Seras.5702:

Stonish.7532:

I dont like dungeons farming, I think it would be just the same as TP farming after a while, I’d hate it so much and would be doing it only for profit.

Thanks for any advices.

Define “dungeon farming.” I define it as repeatedly running the same short dungeon paths at high speed for max profits. That gets boring.

That is what I mean. I know a lot of ppl do like 10 different dungeon paths, every single day, with a good group and speed running them, its something I dont want to do, fun out of it is pretty much the same as from TP farming…

In case of World Bosses I have a tool for that, its pretty efficient but after like 2h I’ll run out of events to do and If Im not wrong, guesting is not working on it to do another circle?

Stonish.7532:

Seras.5702:

Stonish.7532:

I dont like dungeons farming, I think it would be just the same as TP farming after a while, I’d hate it so much and would be doing it only for profit.

Thanks for any advices.

Define “dungeon farming.” I define it as repeatedly running the same short dungeon paths at high speed for max profits. That gets boring.

That is what I mean. I know a lot of ppl do like 10 different dungeon paths, every single day, with a good group and speed running them, its something I dont want to do, fun out of it is pretty much the same as from TP farming…

In case of World Bosses I have a tool for that, its pretty efficient but after like 2h I’ll run out of events to do and If Im not wrong, guesting is not working on it to do another circle?

No but you can use different characters, you will still get the big chest at the end from the boss but you will not get the bonus chest with the garunteed rare or whatever in it.

Stop playing GW2 for a while. Seriously.

Olvendred.3027:

Stop playing GW2 for a while. Seriously.

This is definitely the best advice in the thread.

You describe yourself as an “addict” and it seems like indulging your addiction is harming you. Stop playing for a while. Nobody ever resolved an addictive behavior by indulging in it more.

Also, you are chasing a tiny reward. If you buy gems from ANet and convert them to in-game gold, you can get 10 gold for about $2 (USD).

Heimlich.3065:

Nobody ever resolved an addictive behavior by indulging in it more.

Pretty much this, as a psych undergrad were taught that the way to stop an addiction is to break the cycle of it. Stopping cold turkey can work (just dont log on).

Otherwise, if you have a particular routine that you follow while your logged on that leads you into TP Flipping (before/after too, e.g. stop visiting the TP spidy?) you need to identify what they are. Then subsequently make in roads into stopping them.

Perhaps look towards the up coming WvW tournament? Give that a try and that may offer some in roads into resisting opening up the spreadsheets.

Olvendred.3027:

Stop playing GW2 for a while. Seriously.

This. Take a break from GW2. Uninstall it if you have to. You sound like you really need to just stop playing and try to find something else to do.

One quick question, are you addicted to other forms of gambling? There’s a program for it, it sounds like you are looking for help.

Stonish.7532:

Hey everyone. As many of us Im addicted to trading post. I have spent like 80% of last year sitting in Rata Sum and the airship of my ingame time. I just cant help it, I hoard items, a lot of items and then Im not using them at all. I got no legendary and I dont even have tousands of gold. All gold I earn I turn into materials and I just… Cant stop doing it. I see a lot of people saying about amazing 10g per hour from doing something else. I’ve never reached that point when trying so I am asking for help now.

I got myself maxed Magic Find (like it wasn’t enough I farmed over 1,5kk of luck above that just in case they increase it anytime or let us use it for something else – screeny) but it doesn’t help playing trading post. Question is – is there any way I can use that to get that 8-10g per hour simply playing the game instead of trading post?

There is less and less mobs droping loot from the events, even in fractals I think I got like 2 greens last night over the entire run from mobs, all other was from chests. I’d love the fact of farming mobs for materials but that is not efficient – DR hitting after like 25 minutes of doing same circle and even with maxed mf you dont get that many materials.

I just… Im just looking for something in guild wars that will let me feel like Im being rewarded. I really REALLY need to stop wasting my time sitting on the front of the NPC, with loads of spreadsheets on the other screen to fill >.<

I dont like dungeons farming, I think it would be just the same as TP farming after a while, I’d hate it so much and would be doing it only for profit.

Thanks for any advices.

sorry man, you will always get that same feeling, that the time you spent would be more effeciently spent playing the TP. It has been, and will continue to be, the best source of earning wealth.

The only way to free yourself is to decide for yourself that money isnt the most important thing in the game. The game is probably the most fun if you try to by and large ignore the TP. Only problem is, the game hasnt built a lot of goals that arent gold based.

Send me your gold and start over from scratch.

Nothing like fresh beginnings.

Stonish.7532:

Hey everyone. As many of us Im addicted to trading post. I have spent like 80% of last year sitting in Rata Sum and the airship of my ingame time. I just cant help it, I hoard items, a lot of items and then Im not using them at all. I got no legendary and I dont even have tousands of gold. All gold I earn I turn into materials and I just… Cant stop doing it. I see a lot of people saying about amazing 10g per hour from doing something else. I’ve never reached that point when trying so I am asking for help now.

I got myself maxed Magic Find (like it wasn’t enough I farmed over 1,5kk of luck above that just in case they increase it anytime or let us use it for something else – screeny) but it doesn’t help playing trading post. Question is – is there any way I can use that to get that 8-10g per hour simply playing the game instead of trading post?

There is less and less mobs droping loot from the events, even in fractals I think I got like 2 greens last night over the entire run from mobs, all other was from chests. I’d love the fact of farming mobs for materials but that is not efficient – DR hitting after like 25 minutes of doing same circle and even with maxed mf you dont get that many materials.

I just… Im just looking for something in guild wars that will let me feel like Im being rewarded. I really REALLY need to stop wasting my time sitting on the front of the NPC, with loads of spreadsheets on the other screen to fill >.<

I dont like dungeons farming, I think it would be just the same as TP farming after a while, I’d hate it so much and would be doing it only for profit.

Thanks for any advices.

Excuse me, but…1 run of tequatl a day can give you 1-40g(if you’re lucky). I myself found 2 breathers worth 10g each in the past 20 tries. You can also get a mini tequatl worth around 30g, not to mention amazing ascended stuff, precursors and expensive exotics. Definitely not the most “tryhard” way, but it’s good enough for me.

Or you could do like 4 dungeons a day, it should surely give you at least 8g.

Kill Evon Gnashblade, his staff and then burn down every building he owns.

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Cassocaster.4576:

One quick question, are you addicted to other forms of gambling? There’s a program for it, it sounds like you are looking for help.

hes not really gambling, its just way more effecient. You can do no gambling at all and make money on the TP, consistently and without fail. The only question is how much you will make. You can make money by selling at certain times and buying at certain times. You can make money taking advantage of inconsistencies in crafting.

Now if you do these safe ways, your top end isnt as great, you may only make like 10-12 gold an hour, and maybe 8 gold on bad days. But thats on par with the best farms in the game, and blows interesting/challenging play out of the water.

phys.7689:

Cassocaster.4576:

One quick question, are you addicted to other forms of gambling? There’s a program for it, it sounds like you are looking for help.

hes not really gambling, its just way more effecient. You can do no gambling at all and make money on the TP, consistently and without fail. The only question is how much you will make. You can make money by selling at certain times and buying at certain times. You can make money taking advantage of inconsistencies in crafting.

Now if you do these safe ways, your top end isnt as great, you may only make like 10-12 gold an hour, and maybe 8 gold on bad days. But thats on par with the best farms in the game, and blows interesting/challenging play out of the water.

Funny, I am trying to assist the OP and you are giving reasons why he should still “play the ponies”. Playing the TP, in any way, is speculative. That means it’s an odds based outcome where there are winners and losers and rarely people who break even. If that’s not gambling (per Merriam Webster):

: to play a game in which you can win or lose money or possessions : to bet money or other valuable things

: to risk losing (an amount of money) in a game or bet

: to risk losing (something valuable or important) in order to do or achieve something

then I must not understand the English language very well.

Cassocaster.4576:

phys.7689:

Cassocaster.4576:

One quick question, are you addicted to other forms of gambling? There’s a program for it, it sounds like you are looking for help.

hes not really gambling, its just way more effecient. You can do no gambling at all and make money on the TP, consistently and without fail. The only question is how much you will make. You can make money by selling at certain times and buying at certain times. You can make money taking advantage of inconsistencies in crafting.

Now if you do these safe ways, your top end isnt as great, you may only make like 10-12 gold an hour, and maybe 8 gold on bad days. But thats on par with the best farms in the game, and blows interesting/challenging play out of the water.

Funny, I am trying to assist the OP and you are giving reasons why he should still “play the ponies”. The TP, in all of its forms, is speculative. That means it’s an odds based outcome where there are winners and losers and rarely people who break even. If that’s not gambling (per Merriam Webster):

: to play a game in which you can win or lose money or possessions : to bet money or other valuable things

: to risk losing (an amount of money) in a game or bet

: to risk losing (something valuable or important) in order to do or achieve something

then I must not understand the English language very well.

Thats what people think but its just not true.
I have made money on the TP at various points in the game doing things with less risk than doing a dungeon.
for example, times when salvaging basic items, then crafting them can sell INSTANTLY to lowest buyer for more money than materials cost. the gain only goes up when you salvage a rare item
Placing a bid order that you know will get filled at a certain time of day and sell at another.
Every day for example, an item may fluctuate between say 1.8 and 2.6 silver. You place a buy order at 1.7 and you sell at 2.4. no gamble you will make money just off the fluctuations.
Some times on some items, you can make money turning teir 5 items into teir 6 items.
Various crafting recipes

Point is, gambling implies risk. There are styles of TP playing that involve no risk, i assume he is in the no risk category, because it seems he makes about 8-10 gold an hour. Also he said hes staring at spreadsheets, which is usually the consistent data and information on current values of items.

See by taking the gambling tack, you are missing the point, he knows EXACTLY how much he would make on average playing the TP, its fairly consistent. For him gambling is playing PVE, where the returns are way more random, and in usually less money. So you wont solve his additiction with gamblers groups, he is in this situation because the TP is the sure thing, its the most effecient way to play the game.

The only way he can break his addiction is by letting go of gold as a purpose, and chase effeciency in fun.

TP includes gambling, but it also includes general business/trade and middlemaning. There are ways to play the TP which dont really amount to gambling at all.

His situation is closer to being being in the corporate sector making money, and being disatisfied because its no fun, and he is barely playing the game called life. But every time he tries to do some other job, he is reminded how much more money he makes working in the dull corporate world.

And yeah unfortunately thats how the reward systems of GW2 currently work. Best gold is TP(business), followed by repetive farming (manufacturing) any activity that is actually fun/challenging doesnt give you much reward effeciency, or even unique rewards other than the joy of doing the task.

TP Addict needs help…

Google near psychiatrist in you area, I think it’s a wrong forum.

phys.7689:

The only way he can break his addiction is by letting go of gold as a purpose, and chase effeciency in fun.

With no sarcasm, this point is perfect and thank you for taking the time to write what you did, you made me re-think my reply.

Go outside…..

As others have said, take a break. Barring that try setting “odd” goals for yourself in game. For instance, I am currently planning on going on picture taking expeditions. There are some maps i opened and have never been back to since opening it. I went back to one of those maps recently and stood in awe of something that i either forgot or just ignored. I realized there are tons more of those places in the game and i want to find them and basically enjoy the scenery.

in short, “play” the game differently with goals that you set for yourself and not ones based on things you can get in the game. Does that make sense?

Mega Messiah.1734:

Send me your gold and start over from scratch.

Nothing like fresh beginnings.

I took a break once for like 3 months after release of Dragon Bash (I got sick of all that quaggan hype and then they released “Smash the dragon” thing, I was just like… omg, that’s it, it gets too childish now… Just before a break I’ve thrown all gold I had in rares to the mystic forge, got nothing back – I have a spreadsheet for MF, I know the amount of rares was not enough to even get close of a chance getting a precursor (I dont rely on luck, only on math and statistics), but heck that was the only time I’ve done something just to see will I get lucky and ended up wasting all my money and taking a break – Id stay and finish the legendary if get a precursor for sure.

Now I regret I took a break because I’ve missed some items that will never get again and would love to get. I’ve missed some Living Stories that after watching few videos I can say were fun to do. And for the most of all I’ve missed achievements and that will just stay in my head for ever.

phys.7689:

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His situation is closer to being being in the corporate sector making money, and being disatisfied because its no fun, and he is barely playing the game called life. But every time he tries to do some other job, he is reminded how much more money he makes working in the dull corporate world.

After reading all the feedback I am wondering is word addict not too strong in that case. Anyway… I got life. I have a full time job which takes pretty much about 200-250h a month of my time, I sleep normally (times when I was addicted to L2 and played almost 130h a week are over), as I said “I have spent like 80% of last year sitting in Rata Sum and the airship [b]of my ingame time.[b]”

Its not that GW takes too much time out of my life, its TP takes too much time of my gw playtime. Its bad to hear all those sarcasm comments about going to a psychiatrist or so but oh well… I do Living Stories, I like them, I love new achievements, hate missing out on them, I like gettin new skins (even tho Im not rly using most of them). The main thing would be to find something that will (as said) make me feel rewarded for the time I’ve spent.

Anyway thanks all for the feedback, some of it gave me a lot of imput about why do I actually feel like playing TP all the time instead of the game, maybe realising that will help a bit

Stonish.7532:

Mega Messiah.1734:

Send me your gold and start over from scratch.

Nothing like fresh beginnings.

I took a break once for like 3 months after release of Dragon Bash (I got sick of all that quaggan hype and then they released “Smash the dragon” thing, I was just like… omg, that’s it, it gets too childish now… Just before a break I’ve thrown all gold I had in rares to the mystic forge, got nothing back – I have a spreadsheet for MF, I know the amount of rares was not enough to even get close of a chance getting a precursor (I dont rely on luck, only on math and statistics), but heck that was the only time I’ve done something just to see will I get lucky and ended up wasting all my money and taking a break – Id stay and finish the legendary if get a precursor for sure.

Now I regret I took a break because I’ve missed some items that will never get again and would love to get. I’ve missed some Living Stories that after watching few videos I can say were fun to do. And for the most of all I’ve missed achievements and that will just stay in my head for ever.

phys.7689:

[i]…Big post post that is correct in every word almost…[i]

His situation is closer to being being in the corporate sector making money, and being disatisfied because its no fun, and he is barely playing the game called life. But every time he tries to do some other job, he is reminded how much more money he makes working in the dull corporate world.

After reading all the feedback I am wondering is word addict not too strong in that case. Anyway… I got life. I have a full time job which takes pretty much about 200-250h a month of my time, I sleep normally (times when I was addicted to L2 and played almost 130h a week are over), as I said “I have spent like 80% of last year sitting in Rata Sum and the airship [b]of my ingame time.[b]”

Its not that GW takes too much time out of my life, its TP takes too much time of my gw playtime. Its bad to hear all those sarcasm comments about going to a psychiatrist or so but oh well… I do Living Stories, I like them, I love new achievements, hate missing out on them, I like gettin new skins (even tho Im not rly using most of them). The main thing would be to find something that will (as said) make me feel rewarded for the time I’ve spent.

Anyway thanks all for the feedback, some of it gave me a lot of imput about why do I actually feel like playing TP all the time instead of the game, maybe realising that will help a bit

yeah i was making an analogy, i meant essentially most of your guild wars “life” was being used by playing the corporate “tp” boring way.

hopefully they add more ways to feel rewarded that dont use money. Even though arent in to PVP im guessing, the new progressions there give a little bit of hope(if im not misunderstanding them)

Hopefully they make some similar types of reward systems tied to PVE. Perhaps they will also have these area specific skins in PVE for completing dynamic events (hopefully more credit for different events)

I hope you weren’t one of those people that bought up dyes recently. They’re all going to lose their shirt after the update.

OP I think you would love to play EVE online.

maxed magic find and you dont want to kill stuff?

With Max MF, you need to hit up the Melandru ( when its fixed ) and Grenth Temples in Cursed Shore, also if it doesn’t bug out the Arah event in Cursed Shore, these events have so much loot drop its stupid, for farming you should avoid dwayna and lyssa, they don’t spawn as many mobs, and if your server is doing it, grab Balth also.

Im kind of surprised you got so little in Fractals though, usually I get a lot of greens etc in there, its normally the end chests which are so disappointing.

If anyone on these forums could give you feedback on farming esp in Orr with high MF it would be Vol