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Posted by: IronPhoenix.2045

IronPhoenix.2045

Hey guys,

im a trader so i often search for a lot of items every day in the Trading Post. I personally love the new Trading Post but there are still 2 things i would really like to improve.

Many items in Gw2 got really really really long names for example “Ravaging Privateer Shoulders of the Flame Legion”. The problem is there is a letters cap in the TP search so i often cant find a item like this without any addional filters.
But if i have to use on 50 items special filters cause the names are too long, im wasting much time. I dont even understand why there is a letter cap cause Anet knows how long Item names can be. So pls let me search without a letter cap so i can find my items even if they got long names.

A second improvement to search items easier and with way more precision would be to search for the item´s chat id for example [&AgE4KwAA]. Every item got a special chat id so you can find your item with no problem and you dont have to search with filters etc for minutes.

Thats all of my TP feedback. I would really love to see this one day in the TP it would bring a lot more comfort into the item search.

Have a nice day
Angelo

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Posted by: Ravion Hawk.4736

Ravion Hawk.4736

You’re not a trader, you’re a Market Manipulator.

So far the TP works fine for those that are playing Guild Wars 2.

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Posted by: Fermi.2409

Fermi.2409

You’re not a trader, you’re a Market Manipulator.

So far the TP works fine for those that are playing Guild Wars 2.

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Posted by: IronPhoenix.2045

IronPhoenix.2045

You’re not a trader, you’re a Market Manipulator.

So far the TP works fine for those that are playing Guild Wars 2.

Hey Ravion,

first of all im not a Marked Manipulator. If your a flipper you order items and provide it to people who want to click on the “insta buy” button. And we are not increasing the prices. So its a win win situation for the buyers and for the flippers we can make a bit little profit and the buyers can get every item per insta buy.

Marked Manipulation would be if i have 15 000 gold and would buy all the supply from a item, selling the item again and increasing the prices by a lot. Thats not a win win situation.

And in my opinion these two changes to the TP are just some little quality of life changes nothing special. There is no reason why you shouldnt be able to write unlimited letters into the search bar of the TP or you shouldnt be able to search for Item ID´s. You can just search with way more precision in the TP for items and you dont have to use XXX Filters to find your item between the million of items

Have a nice day
Angelo

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Posted by: Wanze.8410

Wanze.8410

Marked Manipulation would be if i have 15 000 gold and would buy all the supply from a item, selling the item again and increasing the prices by a lot. Thats not a win win situation.

Even in that case, i dont think you are a market manipulator because you are using it as intended.
You didnt force anybody whose supply you bought out from the tp to sell to you at that price, that player offered it at that price by free choice.

And if you relist at a high price, you also dont force anybody to buy your listings, they are free to put in a lower buy order.

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

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Most annoying thing about the TP for me, when outfitting a character, is the filter reset going between armor and weapons.

There is nothing wrong in buying low and selling high. What’s wrong are players who think it’s okay to sell to the high bid and then get upset when someone else sells “their” item successfully at a higher price.

Do you get upset when you find out that the car you traded is is being sold for $3K more than you were paid for it?

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Posted by: IronPhoenix.2045

IronPhoenix.2045

Marked Manipulation would be if i have 15 000 gold and would buy all the supply from a item, selling the item again and increasing the prices by a lot. Thats not a win win situation.

Even in that case, i dont think you are a market manipulator because you are using it as intended.
You didnt force anybody whose supply you bought out from the tp to sell to you at that price, that player offered it at that price by free choice.

And if you relist at a high price, you also dont force anybody to buy your listings, they are free to put in a lower buy order.

Exactly flipping is more a service i provide people so they can insta buy/sell items. Its a win/win situation and im not even increasing the prices. Its like when you got into a supermarket you dont want to make orders before you get your food after days you want to make insta buy there and guess what ? The supermarket makes profit :O Flipper are now called gw2 supermarkets xD

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

Mystic.5934

to search for “Ravaging Privateer Shoulders of the Flame Legion”, I would type “rav pri sho fla”
you will get everything that has any of those words in it, but at the top of the list will be the item you want. I tried 2 letters at first, but that got way too many false responses. 3 seems to get your item as the top result 99% of the time and within the top-3 0.99% of the time. ignore really common things like ‘of’ and ‘the’ :P you can also ignore the ‘leg’ because ‘fla’ will always have ‘leg’ after it

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Posted by: IronPhoenix.2045

IronPhoenix.2045

to search for “Ravaging Privateer Shoulders of the Flame Legion”, I would type “rav pri sho fla”
you will get everything that has any of those words in it, but at the top of the list will be the item you want. I tried 2 letters at first, but that got way too many false responses. 3 seems to get your item as the top result 99% of the time and within the top-3 0.99% of the time. ignore really common things like ‘of’ and ‘the’ :P you can also ignore the ‘leg’ because ‘fla’ will always have ‘leg’ after it

Thanks Mystic, i didnt knew that i could just use the first 3 letters. Thats a nice walkaround but if i could type the full name “Ravaging Privateer Shoulders of the Flame Legion” it would be still the best way. I gona try your tactic out the next days thank you very much :)

And there is another thing i would like to report. When i search for “Strong Iron Rifle” or “Strong Soft Wood Longbow” i first get “Strong Iron Rifle of Air” and “Strong Soft Wood Longbow of Air”. If im searching for “Strong Iron Rifle” i would like to first get items with the exact same name and then things like “of air” etc. Maybe Anet have to change the Item order there too. First the Items with the name i have searched and then similar names.

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Posted by: Substance E.4852

Substance E.4852

Marked Manipulation would be if i have 15 000 gold and would buy all the supply from a item, selling the item again and increasing the prices by a lot. Thats not a win win situation.

Even in that case, i dont think you are a market manipulator because you are using it as intended.
You didnt force anybody whose supply you bought out from the tp to sell to you at that price, that player offered it at that price by free choice.

And if you relist at a high price, you also dont force anybody to buy your listings, they are free to put in a lower buy order.

Exactly flipping is more a service i provide people so they can insta buy/sell items. Its a win/win situation and im not even increasing the prices. Its like when you got into a supermarket you dont want to make orders before you get your food after days you want to make insta buy there and guess what ? The supermarket makes profit :O Flipper are now called gw2 supermarkets xD

Do you not now how commerce works?

The Super Market isn’t flipping the product for impatient customers. They are providing a tangible service as an intermediary between the basic customer and the central supplier who sells their goods at massive bulk to distributors.

I can’t go to Kraft and buy 2 boxes of Easy Mac directly because that’s not how they do business. It wouldn’t be remotely practical.

Gw2 has no need of such a system. The average user can put items they looted for sale and another can purchase them from them directly. The intermediary is the TP itself, not people using it to flip massive quantities of items.

The closest thing to to flippers you find in reality are companies like Stub Hub or Ticketmaster.

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

Mystic.5934

Thanks Mystic, i didnt knew that i could just use the first 3 letters. Thats a nice walkaround but if i could type the full name “Ravaging Privateer Shoulders of the Flame Legion” it would be still the best way. I gona try your tactic out the next days thank you very much

agreed. it should be really easy for them to increase that text box max length.

similarly, I’d appreciate it if the search criteria did not reset when you changed what you were searching. for example, if you search for ‘berserker’, then select ‘weapon’, it is no longer searching for ‘berserker’, but you can type it in again and it works. not that I use that a lot, but I’m sure some people do, and whenever I do, I get kittened at it.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

In fact, flipping happens all over in real life and we just don’t see it most of the time, because it usually doesn’t happen on the retail end.

  • Candy is “flipped” in movie theaters — it’s bought from a different set of distributors and offered at premium prices relative to the cost.
  • Amazon market place is full of folks that sell stuff available locally to them for cheap and sell it at a huge mark-up, to folks that can’t get it where they are. For example, Trader Joe’s doesn’t ship their own products.

You could claim in both those cases that it’s not “flipping”, since there’s a “service” provided, the convenience of not having to get the item on your own. Well, that’s what flipping is in this game: people buy items from folks who want coin now and aren’t bothered by pricing and sell to folks who want their items now, and are willing to pay extra.

tl;dr it’s a mistake to think that “flipping” doesn’t provide a benefit to the community as a whole — and that’s without considering the value of sinking more gold out of the economy with every transaction.

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Posted by: Gudy.3607

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similarly, I’d appreciate it if the search criteria did not reset when you changed what you were searching. for example, if you search for ‘berserker’, then select ‘weapon’, it is no longer searching for ‘berserker’, but you can type it in again and it works. not that I use that a lot, but I’m sure some people do, and whenever I do, I get kittened at it.

Yes. Yes. A thousand times yes! At this time that would, for me personally, be the single biggest improvement possible for the TP interface.

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Posted by: Menadena.7482

Menadena.7482

The search function often gets messed up in a variety of programs. I am not sure why, but hey.

If I could pick one feature it would be to only show items with locked skins. Once I hit 80 on a character I have them fully outfitted with their normal exotics so if I am buying something in the TP I am either searching for a specific item or for skins I do not have.

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Posted by: IronPhoenix.2045

IronPhoenix.2045

Thanks Mystic, i didnt knew that i could just use the first 3 letters. Thats a nice walkaround but if i could type the full name “Ravaging Privateer Shoulders of the Flame Legion” it would be still the best way. I gona try your tactic out the next days thank you very much

agreed. it should be really easy for them to increase that text box max length.

similarly, I’d appreciate it if the search criteria did not reset when you changed what you were searching. for example, if you search for ‘berserker’, then select ‘weapon’, it is no longer searching for ‘berserker’, but you can type it in again and it works. not that I use that a lot, but I’m sure some people do, and whenever I do, I get kittened at it.

Yes the filter reset is a really annoying thing. I think there are a lot of improvement Anet could bring to the TP to upgrade the quality of life in the Trading Post. I hope after the core things from HoT are in game they have to time to look on those things again.

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Posted by: IronPhoenix.2045

IronPhoenix.2045

The search function often gets messed up in a variety of programs. I am not sure why, but hey.

If I could pick one feature it would be to only show items with locked skins. Once I hit 80 on a character I have them fully outfitted with their normal exotics so if I am buying something in the TP I am either searching for a specific item or for skins I do not have.

Nice feature i was always wondering witch skins im missing or witch colors are locked and i could buy. This would be a great filter option for skin collectors ;)

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Posted by: Xbon.9086

Xbon.9086

Hey guys,

im a trader so i often search for a lot of items every day in the Trading Post. I personally love the new Trading Post but there are still 2 things i would really like to improve.

Many items in Gw2 got really really really long names for example “Ravaging Privateer Shoulders of the Flame Legion”. The problem is there is a letters cap in the TP search so i often cant find a item like this without any addional filters.
But if i have to use on 50 items special filters cause the names are too long, im wasting much time. I dont even understand why there is a letter cap cause Anet knows how long Item names can be. So pls let me search without a letter cap so i can find my items even if they got long names.

A second improvement to search items easier and with way more precision would be to search for the item´s chat id for example [&AgE4KwAA]. Every item got a special chat id so you can find your item with no problem and you dont have to search with filters etc for minutes.

Thats all of my TP feedback. I would really love to see this one day in the TP it would bring a lot more comfort into the item search.

Have a nice day
Angelo

I have a tip for you, for the first,
type “I am Evon Gnashblade” in trading post just like that, all caps intact, it will change the trading post to a more condense version where you can easily sift through those listings to find what you want.

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Posted by: IronPhoenix.2045

IronPhoenix.2045

I have a tip for you, for the first,
type “I am Evon Gnashblade” in trading post just like that, all caps intact, it will change the trading post to a more condense version where you can easily sift through those listings to find what you want.

Wow i first thought you were joking with me but after i had loading screen for feeled 2 min i realized the TP really changed. Im now really Evon Gnashblade xD Im wondering why i first have to tipe this thing into the search. Why there is no option where i can enable it. Are there more hidden things like this in the TP ?

Angelo

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Posted by: Mystic.5934

Mystic.5934

not that I know of. Evon god mode is supposed to save, however. mods say it only resets on it’s own when they do a patch (you can reset it by typing it in again). in practice, I haven’t noticed this.

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Posted by: Chpoit.6498

Chpoit.6498

You’re not a trader, you’re a Market Manipulator.

So far the TP works fine for those that are playing Guild Wars 2.

The rage and anger in this post are flowing through my screen.

But yeah, would be nice if the TP was improved. For example, add a section of “Favorited items”. Right now I just put offers for 1-50copper that I know wont be filled to “tag” items I search often and I use the my transactions page, it’s still annoying as I sometimes have to scroll through 100-200 different buy/sell orders to get to my tagged items, but it’s a decent way to save time.