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Posted by: supermanboy.4592

supermanboy.4592

Hello everyone. I’ve made my pve ranger to be the jack of all trades, master of none. He’s got full celestial/divinity. I love the build/utility of him but am having a hard time trying to nail down sigils. He uses a GS and short bow, it is the short bow in question.

I wanted to have one combat related and one utility related sigil on the bow and can’t decide. The trouble is the short bow’s auto damage is half straight damage and have condition.

Air – I have a 36% crit rate so this provides the highest dps and is currently on my bow.
Fire – Highest damage if there are multiple targets, which is not usually the case. I want good fast damage for general pve solo play.
Blood – Same single target dps (if not slightly higher) than Fire, but gives the added benefit of healing. Thing is, I don’t normally need the heals so the heal is a waste typically. Also, if I did need a heal this would not be nearly enough to save me.
Strength/Earth/Perception – Regardless of the damage mechanism, the dps works out to nearly exactly the same of 74 dps.
Force – Lower dps than all others mentioned (given my short bow attack is made up partially of conditional damage. The physical portion isn’t high enough to really take advantage of this).

Now for possible utility sigils:

Life – I have lots of natural regeneration (signet + trait) for myself and pet so having contstant dependable heals sounds appealing. However, again I am not typically getting hit so it seems a waste.
Momentum – Lots of potential here as a utility sigil since I take less base damage. Again, I am not typically getting hit.
Luck – As much as I like random boons (which are great in combat with lots of enemies) it does not benefit you during battle until something dies. Since I’m just running around doing dailies this again seems a waste. Also, after combat when I’m running to the next area the boon is random and short lived.
Speed – This would be very useful except I use the sigil which grants 25% permanent speed boost reducing the overall benefit greatly.
Water – Will heal the area around my target, which would typically be my pet (who really doesn’t take a lot of damage). This is nice in groups for champs, but the majority of the time I’m taking down regular enemies.

In closing, at the moment I’m leaning towards air/bloodlust. The utility sigils do not seem to give enough of a benefit to my char/play style to justify using them. While having another combat sigil makes the fight faster. Air has the highest dps followed by bloodlust (even though only a portion of my damage is straight).

Is there anything I am missing? What are your thoughts/recommendations?

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

Speed – This would be very useful except I use the sigil which grants 25% permanent speed boost reducing the overall benefit greatly.

Not sure what you are using, but most likely it is a perma +25% movement speed boost. Swiftness from the weapon sigil affects also attack speed (and is a primary reason to use that sigil, as for movement boost it’s just too short).

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Posted by: DarkWasp.7291

DarkWasp.7291

Accuracy and fire.

Accuracy +7% crit chance because that’s going to affect conditions along with physical damage.

Fire because despite what you said, general PvE rarely consists of single targets.

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Posted by: IndigoSundown.5419

IndigoSundown.5419

Speed – This would be very useful except I use the sigil which grants 25% permanent speed boost reducing the overall benefit greatly.

Not sure what you are using, but most likely it is a perma +25% movement speed boost. Swiftness from the weapon sigil affects also attack speed (and is a primary reason to use that sigil, as for movement boost it’s just too short).

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Swiftness buffs movement speed. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quickness buffs attack/action speed.

If http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sigil_of_Speed also buffs attack speed, it is not documented.

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

Speed – This would be very useful except I use the sigil which grants 25% permanent speed boost reducing the overall benefit greatly.

Not sure what you are using, but most likely it is a perma +25% movement speed boost. Swiftness from the weapon sigil affects also attack speed (and is a primary reason to use that sigil, as for movement boost it’s just too short).

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Swiftness buffs movement speed. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quickness buffs attack/action speed.

If http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sigil_of_Speed also buffs attack speed, it is not documented.

Yes, that sigil does. I was refering to that “+25% permanent speed boost” which is likely a ranger signet or something similar (Speed or Traveler rune). Those only affect movement speed, they don’t grant perma attack speed boost.

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Posted by: Shockwave.1230

Shockwave.1230

Intelligence and Battle are good sigils for hybrid builds.

Sylvari Elementalist – Mystree Duskbloom (Lv 80)
Norn Guardian – Aurora Lustyr (Lv 80)
Mia A Shadows Glow – Human Thief (Lv 80)

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Posted by: IndigoSundown.5419

IndigoSundown.5419

Speed – This would be very useful except I use the sigil which grants 25% permanent speed boost reducing the overall benefit greatly.

Not sure what you are using, but most likely it is a perma +25% movement speed boost. Swiftness from the weapon sigil affects also attack speed (and is a primary reason to use that sigil, as for movement boost it’s just too short).

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Swiftness buffs movement speed. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Quickness buffs attack/action speed.

If http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sigil_of_Speed also buffs attack speed, it is not documented.

Yes, that sigil does. I was refering to that “+25% permanent speed boost” which is likely a ranger signet or something similar (Speed or Traveler rune). Those only affect movement speed, they don’t grant perma attack speed boost.

Is the assertion that Signet of Speed also provides Quickness documented anywhere?

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Posted by: supermanboy.4592

supermanboy.4592

Accuracy and fire.

Accuracy +7% crit chance because that’s going to affect conditions along with physical damage.

Fire because despite what you said, general PvE rarely consists of single targets.

Conditions do not crit as stated in the Notes section of the wiki.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Critical_hit

Also , for the fire sigil to do as much dps as air, you would have to hit 4 targets each time it activates. I do dungeons with other chars, this is my general purpose build for overworld zones and typically do not encounter that many enemies at once. I also have piercing arrows so I hit multiple targets anyway.

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Posted by: DarkWasp.7291

DarkWasp.7291

Accuracy and fire.

Accuracy +7% crit chance because that’s going to affect conditions along with physical damage.

Fire because despite what you said, general PvE rarely consists of single targets.

Conditions do not crit as stated in the Notes section of the wiki.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Critical_hit

Also , for the fire sigil to do as much dps as air, you would have to hit 4 targets each time it activates. I do dungeons with other chars, this is my general purpose build for overworld zones and typically do not encounter that many enemies at once. I also have piercing arrows so I hit multiple targets anyway.

You likely have a trait that applies bleeding when you crit. Most condition builds have one or two on-crit conditions. However the condition itself does not crit.

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Posted by: Tman.6349

Tman.6349

Wasp is right. Put Accuracy on the bow or put Perception on both sets.

If you posted your exact build, it would help a ton, to figure out what would best compliment your setup.