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Posted by: azurrei.5691

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most of you people say gold is easy to come by and then refer to farming gatherables or flipping on the TP – well DUH, why didn’t I think of that…

Go do a few dungeons or farm DE’s for an hour (you know, actually PLAYING the game and not being a farmer or stock trader) – tell me that is worth the time involved for your end result in gold.

@ Malediktus 2.5g an hour farming D/E’s? apparently you know more than the rest of us because getting a few greens/blues/white/grey items and the occasional rare item over a period of an hour of D/E’s (oh and the whopping 1.7 silver for gold completion per event) doesn’t even come close to 2.5g unless you get some sort of lucky drop (lodestone/exotic/etc).

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Posted by: Sinphul.3091

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For some playing the game is farming. Just because its not your cup of tea doesn’t mean it’s not mine.

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Posted by: azurrei.5691

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For some playing the game is farming. Just because its not your cup of tea doesn’t mean it’s not mine.

very true, but gathering (farming, as we are refering to it) is not a “primary” activity of an mmo – farmville is that way —>

ANY activity you do in an MMO should be equally rewarding (given time and effort is equal) – GW2 fails pretty spectacularly in that regard.

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Posted by: SpyderArachnid.5619

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How many threads do we really need on this subject? It’s like almost every week there is a new thread about this.

Honestly, I think the price is fine. People always complain that they have nothing to do at 80. Well if you want that armor, there ya go. Something to do and work towards. And before I get the usual, “you just don’t want your effort going to waste if they lower the price”, I don’t have T3 on anyone. I am working for T3 on my Human Thief and my Norn Guardian. It gives me something to do.

Another thing you gotta look at though, is all those people who do have it already will be upset if you drop the price to match the faction armors. They will expect refunds for spending over 100+ gold on something that is now 10 gold. Either way, whether you lower the price or not, someone is going to be upset over it.

And don’t really compare it to Obsidian armor from GW1. Obsidian armor in GW1, you had to work for. You actually had to do FoW and do the quests to unlock the crafter for it. As well as the farming for Obsidian Shards and Ecto (if you didn’t have the gold to buy them). I remember solo Rit farming in UW to get all my Ecto for my Obsidian armor in GW1. Then having to head out of Droks to craft my Elonian Leather and trade Ecto for Obsidian Shards (didn’t feel like running FoW over and over for all my shards so traded for some of them). Then get a group of friends together and go do FoW to craft my Obsidian gear. Felt great finally getting it after all that work.

With T3 Cultural, you don’t have that feeling of accomplishment. You just toss down some money and you got it. Heck, you can even spend real money to get it if you wanted to. There is no work involved in getting T3 Cultural, so don’t compare it to Obsidian armor.

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Posted by: Lyonell.1753

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@fellyn: I said MOST of the armor is ugly, there is some races who got very appealing armor such as the Norn.

@Jrunyon: Really? How? Enlight me.

If you mean, the whole oh use the market to make money lalalalala… Some people bought this game cause it was a grindless game. Farming with magic find in orr for hours no end isn’t the reason I or most people bought this game, some of us enjoy pvp, WvW so on, if farming for a skin was the core of this game I would rager go play Diablo and at least make some cash while doing it.

Some people self convince themselves of doing ridiculous goals, such as obtaining a pieces of cultural armor by farming, this is the same as saying I will save for a Lamborghini while working at Mc Donalds. This is fine, if you want to do go for it. But in reality ANet needs to answer to both the image they gave to their game and the mayoralty of the community. Small details such as this can cause a big issue of question in design by many who actually analyze the way games work. Why would this armor cost so much if it’s relatively useless. And why try to turn it into something rare when it should be a reward for playing your race? If you want it to be rare why not make it a drop or a long quest reward instead of a gold grind fest?

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Posted by: carson yuen.6739

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^ if you dislike grinds, you should go play a single player game where gears would be handed right into your mouth.

Mmo, like it or not, is always about grinding for gears and gold. Anet never, let me repeat, never said gw2 wont have any grinding in it. They just told you you dont hae to grind to have the best stats.

The game was built around grinding for rare skins. You are asking them to take that out because you want a rare skin. You know what is funny? If t3 becomes cheap and everyone would be able to buy it, you will probably whine about the next rare skin because t3 is too common now.

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Posted by: Kopyrighted.1632

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Price is fine IMO. I was looking for something to grind for, wasn’t a fan of the legendary bows so I just went for T3 Norn. Spent a couple of G’s for gear then I went to farm for a week straight and farmed about 120 something G. Would probably be a couple days sooner if I sold Oris and Ancient Wood that i gathered everyday. Would immediately do AC All Path Run in an hour or less then a gathering run right after. Was planning on going for Aether next, but I don’t have the time and dedication right now so I’m fine with T3 atm.

I love how it looks especially with my bow, haven’t seen anyone else with it yet and I like that. But I haven’t played as much after I got it, got burned out a bit. Taking GW breaks here and there, waiting for upcoming content and ranger updates.

EDIT: I think it’d be better if they lowered the cost then added a karma cost and maybe a token(s) of some sort (Maybe something that Miyani sells). Kinda like in GW1 where you need certain mats + money for armor.

So Gold, Karma, Tokens sold by Miyani and hell maybe even another set of tokens you get from doing hearts/events.

But that’s just me :p

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Posted by: LameFox.6349

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Another thing you gotta look at though, is all those people who do have it already will be upset if you drop the price to match the faction armors. They will expect refunds for spending over 100+ gold on something that is now 10 gold. Either way, whether you lower the price or not, someone is going to be upset over it.

Or you could just make it worth the price, like an unlockable skin for that character or something. Instead of ‘buy one for each piece of armour’ you could buy access to the skin (say a helmet), then use a transmutation stone + stat donor from then on every time you wanted a new helmet.

Reducing the price isn’t the only solution. If they did that, I’d even be in favour of raising the price on the 1st two tiers, as it would actually start to be worth something.

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Posted by: mapokl.3167

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I want to say that i really, really like human cultural armour especially tier 3. Even if they double it cost i would still want to buy it.

If it would cost 10 gold for set it wouldn’t be elite any more. Do you really thing that in RL material in clothes for 5000$ are ten times greater then these for 500$? What’s great about having Ferrari if every other average Joe have it?

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Posted by: LameFox.6349

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Why would ‘cultural’ armour be ‘elite’ to begin with?

Cars don’t function identically. If Ferrari changed their lineup to the current bodies with the innards of a Toyota Corolla, people wouldn’t be using Ferrari as any kind of status symbol for long.

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Posted by: carson yuen.6739

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Why would ‘cultural’ armour be ‘elite’ to begin with?

Cars don’t function identically. If Ferrari changed their lineup to the current bodies with the innards of a Toyota Corolla, people wouldn’t be using Ferrari as any kind of status symbol for long.

Lets use the handbag as an example… What exactly is the difference between a lv and zara handbag? More pockets?

Culture t3 is elite because anet wants them to be, and the price they set shows it. If you think its not worth the money you can skip it with nothin to lose. But if you want it, you will have to pay the price that the offical sets… Pretty much like everything else in life.

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Posted by: Adine.2184

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Actually cars DO function identically the function of a car is to get you from one place to another . You turn on the engine and car moves simple as that . You need a better example and dont use apples and oranges cause they have more similarities than differences

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Posted by: Katreyn.4218

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Honestly I think the pricing is okay. At least for end game cosmetic gear grind. You aren’t buying it for the stats at 80. There is far better stats for 2g on exotics on TP.

But as far as amassing the money for it. At 80 its not so bad. Some people are faster at getting it then others. Some got it in weeks, and people like myself got it in months, some maybe even a year or two. I think its nice to have a goal to work towards rather then just getting things I want super fast.

My method I just set a goal for 2g a day (it was a comfortable range I had in generating money, not too much time spent on it). Some days I made more if I was super lucky. But mostly did one pass through of Cursed Shore gathering all harvestables and doing DEs. I didn’t play more then 3 hrs most days. On the weekend sometimes I’d play 5 hrs and do a dungeon or two (very rarely). But I finished up my set in a little over 2 months.

I do think that the gap from Tier 2 armor to Tier 3 is quite wide. I wonder if thats where the dungeon gear is supposed to step in? But as far as money wise it is a pretty significant jump.

Overall, I think if you are concerned about the prices its something you should ignore for initial goal until you feel comfortable with the money you generate in game. Save up a gold (or even 5 silver or something, something you can spare to hoard) in your bank every day or something and eventually you may have more then you think.

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Posted by: Prodigy.6971

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I can make about 1-2g and hour just farming Orr events, selling any green items, salvaging blues/whites, marketing rares/gatherables. In the end though, looks are subjective. Myself, the only T3 that looks nice is the Seraph heavy armor. All the other cultural stuff looks like junk to me. They just don’t seem worth 100g+ for a set. If the prices are to stay as that then change their quality to exotic (even though it really doesn’t have much effect, most people transmute it anyway), give it some sort of aura/spell effect similar to legendaries, albeit not at flashy.

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Posted by: carson yuen.6739

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Charr heavy’s t3 looks really good..

I mean come on, thats the set whoever that charr call in ac is using

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Posted by: Dogblaster.6713

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I really dont think that cultural armor tier 3 is overpriced.

Yes the price is high but thats how it should be. TBH it may be even higher price.

Cultural armor are the best race armor you can get, they should be your mid term goal. Maybe its just skin, but if you didnt notice yet. GW2 is only about skins. Not about stats.

In real life you have louis vuitton, Gucci, Dolce&Gabbana 100x more expensive than other cloths. You know why rich people do buy them? Because then everoyne will know they are rich, powerful and can afford it. Its about prestigue. Nothing else

SAME goes for Cultural armor tier 3. When someone wears it, everyone knows hes rich and can afford to buy it. You lower the price and 10x more players will have it. It will become common and not prestigue armor at all. I wouldnt even touch it then.

TBH sorry for saying this but you, the players that complains about how expensive some things are and how they should be cheaper because YOU cant affrod it, you just make me sick. There are hundereds of players that CAN afford it. Maybe you are just not one of them. We dont live in everyone has everything world.

I didnt buy it for real money, I just farmed Orr, was selling some mystic weapons. Normal way of making money. If the price is too high for you, just get used to it. Its not ment to be weared by everyone.

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Posted by: Rukia.4802

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I think it would be pointless to make T3 exotic. By the time you saved up enough gold you most likely have your set stat’s and such, I would prefer the cultural armors have no stat’s so people will stop crying about the quality and price. They are for transmuting.

It’s the only thing you can get and be unique with without having to depend on RNG like legendaries… honestly I’d love more sinks like this. And people with lives are able to afford T3 you are just mad, get to farming brohamlet.

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Posted by: Kman.7358

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I’m only level 59, haven’t had a chance to play for a few days and have 21g. If you’re that broke playing many hours a day you’re doing something wrong.

Biggest lie in this thread, especially because you purposely ignore the reason for the thread and give your non-sense 2 cents that doesn’t help anything.

The cultural prices are way way too high. No one is ever going to spend that much on a full set, which is why after months of playing this game I’ve yet to see ONE player in a full-cultural suit. Not ONE.

Uh. I’ve seen plenty (including on me). It isn’t too tough to make the money for it.
Also have some guildies with it, and almost every commander I’ve seen on my server has a set.
Also – the grind for gear in this game is for cosmetics. Not stats. If they lowered the price so that every casual player could get it without any issue, it wouldn’t be worth it, because you wouldn’t be unique. You would see absolutely everyone with it.
ANOTHER ALSO – Reading the thread over to check all the posts, I see people assuming that others with the set paid real money for gold to get it. I personally did not. Doing a couple dungeons a day and your regular T6 node runs (ori, etc.) is fairly profitable. It’s how I got it, at least.

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Posted by: DOW Mageski.2097

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Okay here is my point of view, I am a casual gamer and I try to get on everyday. While I do dungeon runs, WvW and general leveling of my main character and alts.
Doing all that has got me about 40g so far, plus and minus maybe 20g for expenses.
The T3 cultural armour is about 120g?
That means it is going to take me about half a year to buy t3 cultural armour for even one character. This is very expensive no matter who you are.
Now I do not farm btw, so yes people who buy gold and farm may post they got it in a day or something. However how are casual people who do not farm Orr meant to afford this equipment? Yes for the looks btw, it is only rare after all.

Anyway simple put I would like the t3 cultural armour to come down in price in some way.

Now I have two solutions.
1) The price is at least halved. That might bring it down to a level that could allow casual players to eventually get it. Or bring it down even more, to say about 20g? I think this is plenty of money for some armour.
2) Use karma to buy it! This is what I would prefer. First the cultural weapons are bought with karma, when when I first went to a cultural armour vendor and found they sold for gold not karma I was disappointed. It feels like they put karma in the game and have not really made much of a use for it. Karma currently has 3 uses. The food supplies you get from karma vendors. Second the armour in game, which the only good level 80 armour you can get with karma is the God armour. However not only is this hard to get to the stats are odd, so it is not for everyone. Third weapons.
Now this might seem like a lot fo uses for karma but once you hit 80, it almost all drops away making karma worth a lot less.
So please allow us to use the karma, for which we need a use for, to buy cultural armour. Please!

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Posted by: Ravenblade.7685

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I think if they introduced a value like culture which you could accumulate by doing quests, events, dungeons and what have you in regions ‘belonging’ to a faction then they could remove the pure dependancy on gold or karma.

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Posted by: Mutiny.4180

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I like the idea that there should be high grind, hard to get skins in the game. It gives you a goal and something to strive for. I don’t think culture armor should have been that grind, though.

Literally every set of armor in the game but this stuff is designed with humans in mind, so if you’re not a human then you have to bust your butt to fit in with your race. Nothing is going to change at this point, but maybe when inflation comes in I’ll be able to get the tier 3 set as “easily” as I see others saying they were able to.

I’m sure the NPC town clothes will show up as even costlier gold sinks in the future. Boy, I can’t wait!

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Posted by: Casia.4281

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I’m only level 59, haven’t had a chance to play for a few days and have 21g. If you’re that broke playing many hours a day you’re doing something wrong.

Biggest lie in this thread, especially because you purposely ignore the reason for the thread and give your non-sense 2 cents that doesn’t help anything.

The cultural prices are way way too high. No one is ever going to spend that much on a full set, which is why after months of playing this game I’ve yet to see ONE player in a full-cultural suit. Not ONE.

Uh. I’ve seen plenty (including on me). It isn’t too tough to make the money for it.
Also have some guildies with it, and almost every commander I’ve seen on my server has a set.
Also – the grind for gear in this game is for cosmetics. Not stats. If they lowered the price so that every casual player could get it without any issue, it wouldn’t be worth it, because you wouldn’t be unique. You would see absolutely everyone with it.
ANOTHER ALSO – Reading the thread over to check all the posts, I see people assuming that others with the set paid real money for gold to get it. I personally did not. Doing a couple dungeons a day and your regular T6 node runs (ori, etc.) is fairly profitable. It’s how I got it, at least.

WvW’ers probably.
1 have 6g. 2000+ badges… 300k karma.
No cash, and nothing to buy with badges or karma.

Really wish WvW had armor sets.
A stonemist set.
Invaders set.
Defenders set.
Quaggan set.

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Posted by: Rukia.4802

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NO. Just no. If you aren’t willing to farm like the rest of us have to get that armor, then you don’t deserve it. You don’t make money by sitting on your thumb. And being casual doesn’t mean you can’t farm a little. I make 3g on average an hour by casually farming in Orr and even more if I get some lucky drops.

Plus, do you really think it would be fair for the people that did invest time into buying T3 that YOU would get it half off? Hell no.

Do people STILL not know the farm method in cursed shores? Plaxi > arena/drake > big fat risen dude > rinse repeat. Not hard. Now go get to farming instead of QQing. You don’t get handed everything for no effort, sorry. This is an MMO not modern warfare 3.

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Posted by: dirtyklingon.2918

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the original prices of t3 cultural were alot more reasonable.

they were only adjusted in a knee jerk over reaction to the intial surge of twitch.tv/youtuber marathon grinders exploiting them in headstart.

idk what the point of punishing the rest of us like that was.

idk why the arbtrarily high price them either.

who doesn’t love wow clones?

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Posted by: Ryuujin.8236

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Given the absence of mystic exotic or legendary armour having some difficult to obtain prestige armour is a good thing. GW1 had very expensive prestige gear people could opt to wear if they had the money for it.

The very fact there are people out there in T3 suggests the price is not unreasonable.

As for the people claiming only those with a lot of disposable income, no life, or cheating can afford T3. I resent your accusation :| (I spend 20-30 minutes a day on the trading post and that gives me enough gold to buy nice things)

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Posted by: souldonkey.9534

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I feel like I’m the only one that played GW1 from the beginning. Y’know, when the 15k armor sets were stupid expensive and took a ridiculous amount of farming to get. It was extremely difficult to make gold when GW1 launched. the 15k sets would cost you around 100p, which would equate to roughly about 100g in GW2, and all had the same stats as every other set. The 15k sets had a little more armor on them than the cheaper ones, they were mostly for cosmetic purposes. Guess who has 2 thumbs and had the 15k set because it looked sweet…

This guy. Also, as someone who just got to 80 and spent way too much gold while leveling up (I estimate I spent about 40g while leveling), I have just under 2g to my name currently. I’m starting my progress towards cultural T3 and I think the prices are just fine. If they were much lower it wouldn’t feel like an accomplishment to get it.

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Posted by: chronometria.3708

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Well, i`ll only be considering the T3 asura outfit when it doesnt make me bald.

Just because Zojja has no hair, doesnt mean i want to shave mine off too.

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Posted by: Ryuujin.8236

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Well, i`ll only be considering the T3 asura outfit when it doesnt make me bald.

Just because Zojja has no hair, doesnt mean i want to shave mine off too.

That’s fine, you’re an ugly asura anyway

(Supposedly Asura like big heads and shapely ears. So presumably a shaven head therefore has analogies to shaving certain parts of human anatomy to make them more attractive…)

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Posted by: Kman.7358

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Okay here is my point of view, I am a casual gamer and I try to get on everyday. While I do dungeon runs, WvW and general leveling of my main character and alts.
Doing all that has got me about 40g so far, plus and minus maybe 20g for expenses.
The T3 cultural armour is about 120g?
That means it is going to take me about half a year to buy t3 cultural armour for even one character. This is very expensive no matter who you are.
Now I do not farm btw, so yes people who buy gold and farm may post they got it in a day or something. However how are casual people who do not farm Orr meant to afford this equipment? Yes for the looks btw, it is only rare after all.

Anyway simple put I would like the t3 cultural armour to come down in price in some way.

Now I have two solutions.
1) The price is at least halved. That might bring it down to a level that could allow casual players to eventually get it. Or bring it down even more, to say about 20g? I think this is plenty of money for some armour.
2) Use karma to buy it! This is what I would prefer. First the cultural weapons are bought with karma, when when I first went to a cultural armour vendor and found they sold for gold not karma I was disappointed. It feels like they put karma in the game and have not really made much of a use for it. Karma currently has 3 uses. The food supplies you get from karma vendors. Second the armour in game, which the only good level 80 armour you can get with karma is the God armour. However not only is this hard to get to the stats are odd, so it is not for everyone. Third weapons.
Now this might seem like a lot fo uses for karma but once you hit 80, it almost all drops away making karma worth a lot less.
So please allow us to use the karma, for which we need a use for, to buy cultural armour. Please!

None of this would be fair. At all, in any way. A ton of people already have the set, that they bought for the full 120g.
-Lowering the price of it now would rip them off completely, and then there will be complaints of that.
-It is also a major gold sink, with the prices that low a ton of money would remain in the economy, and that wouldn’t be good.
-Back to what I said before. Lower the price so that even the players who don’t work for their money and hardly play can get it would remove the armour’s uniqueness. If EVERYONE can run around in the armour and afford it before they’re even 80, there is no longer a point to actually having the armour at all. It’s SUPPOSED to be hard to get, to have that visual edge over someone else because you worked for it. Not because you were handed it on a platter.

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Posted by: vespers.1759

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meh the fun of the armor is somewhat reduced by every lvl 2 NPC toting a full set of t3.

Bristleback can’t hit anything? Let’s fix the HP bug instead.

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Posted by: Lorath.2504

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I’m only level 59, haven’t had a chance to play for a few days and have 21g. If you’re that broke playing many hours a day you’re doing something wrong.

Biggest lie in this thread, especially because you purposely ignore the reason for the thread and give your non-sense 2 cents that doesn’t help anything.

The cultural prices are way way too high. No one is ever going to spend that much on a full set, which is why after months of playing this game I’ve yet to see ONE player in a full-cultural suit. Not ONE.

I most certainly will. Got about 60g put aside now.

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Posted by: FearTheQuadLazers.8297

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I also would like to know, will the prices for this set of armor be lowered? They seem to be a bit high.

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Posted by: Faerie.3657

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The prices are fine. Obsidian/Vabbi armor in GW1 was way more expensive really if you’d compare the effort to get those. Tier3 is supposed to be the most prestigious set in game currently and it has to be expensive. It’s not required for anything other than show off/vanity.

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Posted by: Kaz.9376

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I wouldn’t mind the prices as much if there was some type of cultural armor account unlock that you could pull from a collection.

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Posted by: Adine.2184

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The prices are fine. Obsidian/Vabbi armor in GW1 was way more expensive really if you’d compare the effort to get those. Tier3 is supposed to be the most prestigious set in game currently and it has to be expensive. It’s not required for anything other than show off/vanity.

Vabbian would probably be the equivalent of T2 at best ( more likely Orders armor ) . Vabbian was far cheaper than FoW and took less effort.

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Posted by: illgot.1056

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I find the price only worth it if you enjoy the look.

Since that is subjective (and my main is Sylvari) I do not find the price worth the armor.

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Posted by: UrbanEMP.2654

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I’m fine with the prices. Gives you something to work towards and feels rewarding at the end. The armor is only for looks, not for stats. I don’t know why on earth you’d blow off that much money for stats.

I’ve purchased the only 2 pieces from the Human Cultural set that I actually wanted, and mixed and matched with order/dungeon armor and am very pleased with my look.

I mean, I’d rather have people mixing and matching sets to look more unique than just buying the set in general, but that’s me.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

While I’m generally not against “luxury” armor having high prices, I do agree that the Tier 3 Cultural armor needs a bit of tweaking. Either:

1. The gap between the Tier 2 and Tier 3 armors is too great. (Ridiculously so, IMO.) I’d lower the price for Tier 3 armor to about 50 gold for a full set, if we’re retaining the current stats.

OR

2. Boost Tier 3 armor to Exotic status, with a commensurate increase in stats and bonuses. Then I think it’d be worth the 100+ gold price tag. (Although I’d still drop the price to about a flat 100g.)

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Posted by: Jrunyon.3012

Jrunyon.3012

While I’m generally not against “luxury” armor having high prices, I do agree that the Tier 3 Cultural armor needs a bit of tweaking. Either:

1. The gap between the Tier 2 and Tier 3 armors is too great. (Ridiculously so, IMO.) I’d lower the price for Tier 3 armor to about 50 gold for a full set, if we’re retaining the current stats.

OR

2. Boost Tier 3 armor to Exotic status, with a commensurate increase in stats and bonuses. Then I think it’d be worth the 100+ gold price tag. (Although I’d still drop the price to about a flat 100g.)

But, as many people have stated, the cultural armor is not about stats
If it were about stats, many many people would complain about the fact that they are limited by the stats of the armor (cond, str, health etc.).
Did you want them to add a set of them for every single stat build? That doesnt make sense at all.
Buy the cultural piece you want, then transmute it into a piece with the stats and runes that you like. This is a perfect set up.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

While I’m generally not against “luxury” armor having high prices, I do agree that the Tier 3 Cultural armor needs a bit of tweaking. Either:

1. The gap between the Tier 2 and Tier 3 armors is too great. (Ridiculously so, IMO.) I’d lower the price for Tier 3 armor to about 50 gold for a full set, if we’re retaining the current stats.

OR

2. Boost Tier 3 armor to Exotic status, with a commensurate increase in stats and bonuses. Then I think it’d be worth the 100+ gold price tag. (Although I’d still drop the price to about a flat 100g.)

But, as many people have stated, the cultural armor is not about stats
If it were about stats, many many people would complain about the fact that they are limited by the stats of the armor (cond, str, health etc.).
Did you want them to add a set of them for every single stat build? That doesnt make sense at all.
Buy the cultural piece you want, then transmute it into a piece with the stats and runes that you like. This is a perfect set up.

That would mean you’d need to buy TWO suits of armor to get the one final set. And if you don’t have the funds to do that, it would mean effectively destroying another suit of armor whose appearance you might also like. For instance, I like the appearance of the Tier 6 Crafted Heavy Armor, and I ALSO like the appearance of the Human Cultural Tier 3 armor. Should I have to sacrifice my Crafted set just so I can have my Cultural Armor appearance in level 80 areas?

There is an alternate solution that I saw in another thread though. Someone suggested having a Armor Designer where you could show them suits of armor you were wearing to “unlock” the appearance. Thereafter, you could simply visit this Designer and get them to apply an armor skin you’d already unlocked to any suit of armor you were currently wearing, similar to the HoM heritage items. (This Armor Design might require you to pay him with Transmutation Stones each time you change the armor’s appearance, so it wouldn’t unduly affect the current set up.)

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Posted by: Jrunyon.3012

Jrunyon.3012

There is an alternate solution that I saw in another thread though. Someone suggested having a Armor Designer where you could show them suits of armor you were wearing to “unlock” the appearance. Thereafter, you could simply visit this Designer and get them to apply an armor skin you’d already unlocked to any suit of armor you were currently wearing, similar to the HoM heritage items. (This Armor Design might require you to pay him with Transmutation Stones each time you change the armor’s appearance, so it wouldn’t unduly affect the current set up.)

That Im not opposed to, why didnt you include that in your original post rather than just make it cheaper to buy?

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Posted by: fellyn.5083

fellyn.5083

the original prices of t3 cultural were alot more reasonable.

they were only adjusted in a knee jerk over reaction to the intial surge of twitch.tv/youtuber marathon grinders exploiting them in headstart.

idk what the point of punishing the rest of us like that was.

idk why the arbtrarily high price them either.

It wasn’t cultural armor that they were exploiting. The t3 cultural armor prices have remained unchanged since the betas.

It was faction armor and cultural weapons that they were exploiting.

I feel like I’m the only one that played GW1 from the beginning. Y’know, when the 15k armor sets were stupid expensive and took a ridiculous amount of farming to get. It was extremely difficult to make gold when GW1 launched. the 15k sets would cost you around 100p, which would equate to roughly about 100g in GW2, and all had the same stats as every other set. The 15k sets had a little more armor on them than the cheaper ones, they were mostly for cosmetic purposes. Guess who has 2 thumbs and had the 15k set because it looked sweet…

This guy. Also, as someone who just got to 80 and spent way too much gold while leveling up (I estimate I spent about 40g while leveling), I have just under 2g to my name currently. I’m starting my progress towards cultural T3 and I think the prices are just fine. If they were much lower it wouldn’t feel like an accomplishment to get it.

Yeah. I remember doing dozens and dozens of droknar runs to get my first set, and then farming in the desert before all it got nerfed.

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Posted by: Tyr.2489

Tyr.2489

Also because, besides hard core farmers, gold buyers, or no-life gamers, or cheaters, there is no way someone would ammass and “waste” 119 gold for a full set, or over 600g for the achievement. I play nearly every day, for many hours, not farming but doing many things, and i have 19g….

it’s cheaper to make a legendary than to make the fashion achievement…

Whoa guy, and any one else in this mindset lets be rational for like 0.5sec

You see I got full t3 cultural last night (been saving since almost release because I love the skin) and I am not any of the things you described. Hmm well accept maybe I am a no lifer because I am an advanced graduate student at an ivy league university studying physiology (science and math), but not because I spend every waking moment in GW2; I don’t have time for that kitten.

So for people with this mentality the moral of the story is: one grow up and stop asking for hand outs; and two 119g is a lot of gold but you can save up over time (like me) and buy it piece buy piece, which is very feasible if you go explore the world, run dungeons or play the game (i.e. not sit in LA all the time).

Yes there are mechanics in the game that need adjusting from time to time… but please this is nothing to get butthurt over, so move out smartly because this kitten is just annoying.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

There is an alternate solution that I saw in another thread though. Someone suggested having a Armor Designer where you could show them suits of armor you were wearing to “unlock” the appearance. Thereafter, you could simply visit this Designer and get them to apply an armor skin you’d already unlocked to any suit of armor you were currently wearing, similar to the HoM heritage items. (This Armor Design might require you to pay him with Transmutation Stones each time you change the armor’s appearance, so it wouldn’t unduly affect the current set up.)

That Im not opposed to, why didnt you include that in your original post rather than just make it cheaper to buy?

I forgot about it until my second post. XD Plus, I still would prefer for Tier 3 Cultural armor to be boosted to Exotic grade, and keeping it at or near its current price.

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Posted by: beren.6048

beren.6048

I just want to know if these set pieces would change in the future or it will stay the same. I know the prices were raised because there was an exploit involved around them during the first few weeks. Now that time has passed and possibly the exploit loop has been fixed would the prices be dropped down again or will it stay the same? Currently, buying a whole set of the cultural armor tier 3 set totals 119g while the orders whole armor set only totals to 8g.

Just want to see if this is permanent as I’m starting to save gold for it.

Imo it should be at least half price and exotic. The appearance is not enough to justify such a big price.

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Posted by: Xolosheep.1649

Xolosheep.1649

The armor is meant to be earned by slowly saving toward it. I’m sure that’s the developer’s intention. You don’t have to grind, play the game as it is. Deposit 1G to ur bank per day. 119 days later, u have the full set. that’s about 4 months. Even if u don’t play everyday or can’t hit 1G everyday, earning it within a year is still very reasonable.

1G is not difficult to come by at all, assuming u play normally and collect ores / logs when u come across them. If items are so easily earned, then what is there to motivate people to keep playing the game?

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Posted by: Flynch.6034

Flynch.6034

I’m looking forwards to saving up for the T3 cultural set. It’s one of my personal goals in the game, and to have the cost cut would actually make me sad as it would bring that goal much closer to me, but not through my own choice.

If Joe Bloggs next to me has the same T3 set but bought it through RMT then, hey, that’s fine. I’m not concerned about how Mr.Bloggs looks, i’m only concerned with how I look and the fact it took hours upon hours to get that set.

Aesthetics are subjective anyway – Personally I think the T3 norn armour is worth every penny. Some may disagree and they are welcome to that, but there are many cheaper sets out there that may appeal to their own aethetics.

Please leave the Cultural armour prices as they are. It’s something to work towards and the sense of accomplishment should not be forcibly diminished. And yes I work fulltime so i’m hoping it will take a good long while.

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Posted by: illgot.1056

illgot.1056

I’m looking forwards to saving up for the T3 cultural set. It’s one of my personal goals in the game, and to have the cost cut would actually make me sad as it would bring that goal much closer to me, but not through my own choice.

If Joe Bloggs next to me has the same T3 set but bought it through RMT then, hey, that’s fine. I’m not concerned about how Mr.Bloggs looks, i’m only concerned with how I look and the fact it took hours upon hours to get that set.

Aesthetics are subjective anyway – Personally I think the T3 norn armour is worth every penny. Some may disagree and they are welcome to that, but there are many cheaper sets out there that may appeal to their own aethetics.

Please leave the Cultural armour prices as they are. It’s something to work towards and the sense of accomplishment should not be forcibly diminished. And yes I work fulltime so i’m hoping it will take a good long while.

I feel the same way about the T3 Norn Female heavy set. I love it, if I stick around with my Norn I’ll buy it later.

Sadly my first 80 was Sylvari engineer and none the sylvari T3 armor doesn’t really seem worth the price.

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Posted by: Wolfgang Michael.8217

Wolfgang Michael.8217

Out of all the cultural armor, nothing and I mean nothing looks as good as Human T3 Heavy. Show off your character and you would find out for yourself. Human T3 Heavy, hands down the best looking so far. For that look, I guess the price is worth it. But still, it’s tooooooo high. The chest piece is 30g and its RARE! Rare, not even exotic! FML