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In Vino Veritas
The next threat?
Primordus and Jormag clashing with the player in the middle, trying to “mediate” like a dragon therapist sounds like a cool idea. By “mediate”, I of course mean “slaughter” and by “dragon therapist”, I of course mean “hero”. I have a hunch that Primordus might become a priority in the same expansion that (may or may not) give us Tengu as a playable race. Going by the going on in Kessex Hills I suspect that Primordus’ minions will be the Tengu’s motivation to engage with the rest of Tyria.
I don’t think the Kraklatorrik campaign would take us out of the crystal desert, but, it would leave an opening for ArenaNet to introduce us to Northern Elona through the living story.
Personally? I’m most excited to see a Bubbles campaign. It seems like it could be the most unusual setting, with maybe a focus on the Largos (Largos mastery, anyone?). I’d love to see a full underwater overhaul come with it with new underwater weapons and new underwater Masteries such as use of undercurrents for fast travel. Perhaps even underwater specialisations. Not to mention that it could give us an “in” to Cantha somehow as I am of the understanding that Bubbles is currently stalking the unending ocean.
I’m very glad they got Zhaitan out of the way in the original release. I do find undead in games to be tiresome and overdone, although getting to see Orr was amazing.
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I’ve honestly lost almost all interest in the dragons themselves; once they stopped feeling like unpredictable forces of nature, they just end up kind of worthless to me.
As to where I’d like to go locale-wise though, either Cantha or the far, far east (unexplored lands).
Cantha I’m kind of torn on, as the main points I liked there were Echovald and the Jade Sea, and if those are mostly ‘normal’ again (though hopefully the old petrified trees still remain and there’s just new growth in Echovald), the region loses a fair bit of its appeal.
Plus, prior to the game, I was interested in a potential connection being drawn between Urgoz, his wardens, and the Sylvari, but I doubt they’ll even really acknowledge him now. :-/
Elona, I never really liked. Parts of Vabbi were decent, and I liked Palawa Joko… Well, I liked him more before the stupid Mad King quests, granted, but he’s still alright. But if Elona has turned into the craphole it supposedly has, the only thing I’m really interested there is possibly seeing some of the ‘Awakened’ sunspears.
Early on, I would have loved to revisit the Southern Shiverpeaks, but what we’ve seen of the region thusfar has kind of tempered that. I got almost no feelings of Nostalgia while hanging around Mount Maelstrom, so that was disappointing. Could still be alright though if they improve on that.
Ring of Fire would be fun as an extra, but its not big enough to carry a release on its own. Same for Isles of Janthir, but at least they’ve got more intrigue going for them.
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I’ve honestly lost almost all interest in the dragons themselves; once they stopped feeling like unpredictable forces of nature, they just end up kind of worthless to me.
After the Zhaitan fight, it’s hard to imagine what a re-designed elder dragon fight in Guild Wars 2 could be. I don’t think we’ll end up killing Mordremoth though. There was an interview between Colin and Matt Visual some time ago now, where Colin was asked if we’d be killing Mordremoth in the expansion. He didn’t say yes. Ever the politician, the answer was diverted to something he wanted to talk about.
Perhaps we’ll just be putting Mordremoth back to sleep. I’d be fine with that anyway. It’s about the rewards, right?
I have a hunch that the new humanoid Mordrem, such as those we saw in the beta, might be a little more intelligent than the current Mordrem, or the “This one, kill” Risen. Might make them a little more interesting. Jury’s still very much out.
I’m not even sure they already plan on what will happen after mordy storywise, it might even take more than this exp just to deal with mordr.
We might be probably getting multiple dragon threats next, like you said Primordius (as he manages to push through dwarves) and Jormag (kittenumes his assault in Tyria.. and in the Mists..), Kralk will certainly be pushed later still, as an Elona expans will probably have us fighting against Palawa Joko as well.
Selbbub will probably be one of the last to be revealed, due it’s secret nature, bits will probably revealed as time will pass.
With all that said, I’m much more curious about what the game has to say about Glint’s egg. It might not be the egg but I’m fairly confident this exp might tell us more about the nature of Elder Dragons and perhaps relationship with Human Gods…
I’ve honestly lost almost all interest in the dragons themselves; once they stopped feeling like unpredictable forces of nature, they just end up kind of worthless to me.
After the Zhaitan fight, it’s hard to imagine what a re-designed elder dragon fight in Guild Wars 2 could be. I don’t think we’ll end up killing Mordremoth though. There was an interview between Colin and Matt Visual some time ago now, where Colin was asked if we’d be killing Mordremoth in the expansion. He didn’t say yes. Ever the politician, the answer was diverted to something he wanted to talk about.
Perhaps we’ll just be putting Mordremoth back to sleep. I’d be fine with that anyway. It’s about the rewards, right?
I have a hunch that the new humanoid Mordrem, such as those we saw in the beta, might be a little more intelligent than the current Mordrem, or the “This one, kill” Risen. Might make them a little more interesting. Jury’s still very much out.
I’d expect them to be Nightmare court, even if their origins aren’t with the Grove. I fully expect them to have mechanics similar to the Toxic Alliance, which have more player-like skill sets and the downed mechanics. With some AI changes to include group dynamics, the ability to rescue downed allies would make the new Mordrem incredibly dangerous if organized.
My Theory is we’ll just fight all the dragons left at once. Instead of one dragon killing mega laser we make 5, and shoot them together, their energies pulsing together will summon Captain Planet and he will bring balance to the world.
And then Trahearne will steal his lifeforce then take credit for doing the job.
But really I expect probably Jormag or Primordius. Bubbles seems too mysterious still and Kralkatorrik seems to be in Elona which I don’t think they have designed.
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I’d expect them to be Nightmare court, even if their origins aren’t with the Grove. I fully expect them to have mechanics similar to the Toxic Alliance, which have more player-like skill sets and the downed mechanics. With some AI changes to include group dynamics, the ability to rescue downed allies would make the new Mordrem incredibly dangerous if organized.
I’d love to see more use of the downed mechanics used by foes. Actually, they remind me a lot of the Wardens of Cantha. Perhaps they’re abominations grown from Malyck’s tree since they’re humanoid.
I have a hunch that the new humanoid Mordrem, such as those we saw in the beta, might be a little more intelligent than the current Mordrem, or the “This one, kill” Risen. Might make them a little more interesting. Jury’s still very much out.
The ‘intelligence’ is what ruined them for me.
(Because it’s requisite to specify this on forums, the following is my opinion).
Risen should not be saying, “Death Good”; they should have no opinion on death, nor any thoughts whatsoever. They should just be tools to spread Zhaitan’s influence, and he himself should not be capable of thought in any way we can comprehend.
Of course, I also felt every elder dragon should have its own form of corruption distinct from the others:
Zhaitan: Infection: Controls the dead and infects the living, turning them into mindless carriers that exist only to spread the corruption further. No thought, no plan, no tactics, and certainly no anti-aircraft weapons. They just infect everyone and pass by like a wave.
Jormag: Zealousy: Intoxicates the living by revealing a sample of the power it can afford them causing them to willingly follow him until they become addicted and unable to think rationally.
Kralkatorrik: Domination: Those infected by its crystals may or may not be able to think on their own, but their actions are directly controlled by the dragon itself as it subverts their minds. Its actions indicate something of a plan, but it can only be observed at such a level that it is still impossible to predict.
Primordus: Destruction: It forms its minions from the earth itself, and thus has no use for the living. Rather than actually take them as part of its army, they merely exist to be copied, then destroyed.*
Bubbles: Not enough is known about it to be sure, but I could see fear or madness working well for it. ‘May the Skritt eat your eyes!’.
Mordremoth: Didn’t exist when I originally thought about all of that, but from what we’ve seen Madness would probably fit best with him, leaving Bubbles with Fear.
In any event, Zhaitan at least should not have had minions capable of vocalizing any level of intelligent thought. That mouth of Zhaitan needs to shut it.
The dragons as they currently exist simply don’t give me the sense of danger they did when I saw them as unknowable forces we would be unable to ever conventionally fight.
*This is one area I’m really disappointed in. Having the destroyers just be corrupted, living beings like all the other known Dragon minions kills their uniqueness… :-(
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The ‘intelligence’ is what ruined them for me.
I see it as a case of Elder Dragons having several tiers of monster. The grunts (trash mobs), the Generals (foes like the Eyes of Zhaitan – they seem to have a bit more autonomy), the Champions (Tequatl and Friends), then the Dragon itself. I got the impression that the humanoid Mordrem are more than the Mordrem we see in the Silverwastes. Kind of like “Mordrem +”.
Risen should not be saying, “Death Good”; they should have no opinion on death, nor any thoughts whatsoever. They should just be tools to spread Zhaitan’s influence, and he himself should not be capable of thought in any way we can comprehend.
I always considered dragon minions, regardless of rank, to kind of share a hive mind. If Zhaitan thinks “death…good” it seems quite plausible to me that even his gruntiest of minions would think the same.
I guess we don’t get to hear the thoughts of the current Mordrem, Destroyers, and the like because they don’t use the spoken word to put forth their views.
If Zhaitan didn’t, in a way, “hardwire” his undead minions to kill on his behalf, what motivation would they have to even rise from the ground? Perhaps their limited “battle cries” (for want of a better expression) is simply a by-product of Zhaitan’s control.
In any event, Zhaitan at least should not have had minions capable of vocalizing any level of intelligent thought. That mouth of Zhaitan needs to shut it.
Of all Zhaitan’s minions, regardless of rank, I’d say this one has the greatest legitimacy when it comes to talking!! He reminds me a little of the Mouth of Sauron.
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I’d expect them to be Nightmare court, even if their origins aren’t with the Grove. I fully expect them to have mechanics similar to the Toxic Alliance, which have more player-like skill sets and the downed mechanics. With some AI changes to include group dynamics, the ability to rescue downed allies would make the new Mordrem incredibly dangerous if organized.
I’d love to see more use of the downed mechanics used by foes. Actually, they remind me a lot of the Wardens of Cantha. Perhaps they’re abominations grown from Malyck’s tree since they’re humanoid.
They dismissed the Wardens having any relationship to Sylvari, other then stylistic similarities that may had been influence from historical knowledge gathered via Humans or the Priory.
Plus Malyck’s Tree is in Magumma
Personally, what I want to see is a huge zone set almost entirely under water. I’m thinking we set off to some icy area where we quickly run into a huge mouuntain we can’t cross above land, so we rather dive into the water and stay there. I’m not all that into the lore of the series, but it could be a huge, ancient ruin from a lost civilization, or something. cough Atlantis *cough. Hehehe. I just think the underwater-stuff is really cool, so if they could expand that with more underwater weapons and skills (and costumes!), better enemies, a more interesting environment to explore and so on, it could be f’ing brilliant. Even have a dungeon set entirely underwater.
I think we won’t kill Mordy. It’s obvious to me that the Elder Dragons have a specific reason to exist (eat magic) and killing them all would cause too many problems, maybe more than leaving them alive.
So I think the idea of us killing dragon after dragon will change. Maybe not with Mordy but surely sometime in the future the whole story won’t be Dragons vs Everyone anymore.
Maybe some very powerful individuals from the story (or even the human gods) will become the new “Dragons” in the end? Because from what I understand the Dragons NEED to exist.
My prediction? One year after HoT there will be another 50$ expansion. We will fight the water dragon instead of the plant one.
Really hoping to reach unending sea, there is a water race that looks cool as hell.
Actually, what will happen is we’ll destroy all the Elder Dragons one by one, creating unbalance in Tyria. Trahearne, solely out of the goodness of his chosen saintly planty heart, will then throw himself into a pool of magical energy after pushing us out of the way and become a dragon god himself who will be worshipped as Dwayna’s beloved pet in Guild Wars 3.
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