Guild Wars 2

Maybe i should first explain my understanding of ascened gear (for the case of me having a misunderstanding). Ascended gear is gear to increase your stats further and give a new goal to keep player (farmer) in the game. But these things absolutly dont work out:

Not needed: I want ascended gear, but i am still working on my exotic gear and leveling my other charakters. My 80s are a Mesmer and a Ele, my Ele plays with the gear i found in TA (lvl55, green or yellow, i mean accessoires, backslot, trinket and rings), my mesmer has green lvl80 stuff. I know, that ascended gear would be better, but I have no problem without them, why would I be motivated to get them?

To hard to obtain: I am a casual player and dont like fractals. Also making daylies and monthlies, PvP and PvE each time kills a lot of time and has more of an obsession than joy, furthermore, casuals often play not soo much, only a few day in the month (hard to finish monthly) and then maybe only 1-2 hours (hard to finish daylies, especially, if you not concentrare only on them). It is already a time-eating process to get them for one players (at least even with the 100e, it is makeable), but not doable in a lifetime for all my alts. Also fractals are not easy and without playing non-stop fractals, you wont reach higher levels. The third option is the mystic forge (or do you need also here stuff out of FotM?) These recipes all need expensive, time intense stuff, nothing a casual can bring.

To easy to obtain: I meet non-casual players often enough. They play so much each day, they have not only to look after the daylies, they will get them anyway. Also the monthly in one day is possible for them. They also can play much time in fractals, it is far to easy for them to get full ascended gear and are know whining, cause they dont know, what to do with the dropped ascaneded gear they don not need. These are the players, you wished to keep busy, you failed.

Most effective players: There is a type of player, who farms only, plays only one profession, only has one armor and one weaponset (most likely expensive skins and Berserkerstats) and there is the type of players, who loves to have alts (I also aim for one Charakter for each profession), buys many stuff (I plan to have 2-4 armors with each of them and want to have at least each useable weapon for them once) and so need far, far more, furthermore there is the type, who likes to enjoy the game in a way without ingame rewards, watching the area, making RP, … You dont want to make stuff to easy to obtain, especially cause the first type only need few things. But the actual way is horrible, the first type still can get his equipment in no time, but the second type will never finish obtaing them and the third type will not only think about spending his important tme with stressful and boring farming.

Exotics to ascended For me, leveling my charakters and working on my exotic gear is fun. It takes a lot of time, but it is fun and is not too hard. I think I wont be finished with all my alts before the ascended weapons and armors come out, cause it consumes a lot of time. But what about ascended gear. Hmm, fractals are OK, but the levels make them unattractive to me as casual, I prefer dungeons. Laurels are annoying, of course I want them, but as a casual, not playing often, to get them by finishing the daylies keeps you from the things you really want to do. So i dont think, obtainig ascended gear is fun. Furthermore, i fear ascended weapons/armors. It would mean, all my earlier work was for nothing and cause it must be harder to obtain them, it surely wont be so much fun like obtaing exotics is…

Better stats for better players: Legendaries are the way, it should be! They have a special skin and need a lot of time to be obtained (but still not enough time). Ascended are not. They take a lot of time and are rather a standard only for the best players (type one). But the better gear makes them even stronger, increasing the gap.

So what to do, her a few suggestions:

1. Give more ways to obtain the actual ascended stuff in the future (maybe new dungeons) and make the sellable, this would make them easier to obtain for the casuals.
2. Give new expensive stuff for the non casuals like infusions with +100% EP and 5 AR, which are not needed for casual players, but for the ones, who need tons of Skillpoints for (new, harder obtainable) legendaries, normal player can get maybe 10 Precision and 5 AR for a good price (far cheaper than the actual fine ones)
3. Give new, expensive exotic skins (weapon and armor), that are hard to obtain (and some new for us casuals^^), and some horrible expensive legendary skins. Furthermore, dont bring ascended armor or weapons (making actual exotics worthless), bring a cheap upgrade to change your actual exotic stuff to ascended (payable for us casuals).
4. Make a few types of unique infusions (or stuff like minis with strong effects), these are identical with normal infusions, but give you some unikittenfects (like legendaries give footsteps), of course they are really expensive.
5. The new legendaries must be far harder to obtain than the actual ones. Maybe give a complete new kind of coin (you can have much of them, like 1gold is 10000copper) in the future and make these coins only obtainable through infusions (expensive ones). For example, if you have full ascended gear and each with this (really expensive) infusion, you have a 10% chance to get one coin from foes. These coins are needed for all prestige stuff in the future (skins) and without meaning for casuals to keep the non-casuals busy.

Furthermore, pls no more all-stat equipment. First there were only the runes, so no problem, but now there are also the ascended things. The thought behind giving all-stat equipment more stat points is, that you cant maximize one stat with them. But there are actual two playstyles, maximizing three stats through using mostly always the same type (berserker) or mix up your stats to be an allrounder (furthermore, if you mix up different skins with also different stats, changing to one stat type would mean to buy one more set and to transmute…). All these mixed allrounder armors are weaker compared to these all-stat items, so please no all-stat-weapons/armors to make them useless…

You honestly want it to take more time to get the legendaries/ new legendaries when there are only 3 or 4 of them that even have graphics worth getting? And you are asking for more RNG with it too?

I guess I kind of see what your saying but all these changes would do is create and even greater void in between casual and hardcore players which is already a Grand Canyon worthy chasm in this game.

Every one of your points is contradicted by the point either before or after it. I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Same here. Did I read right or are you someone who plays a “few days a month” and wants to increase the time it takes to get a legendary? Did you say you want them to have better stats because players who own legendaries are “better”?

Honest questions here, I’m quite confused. Brb re-reading what you wrote.

Your first paragraph “Not needed” pretty much makes all the rest of your post a bunch of moot points.

And a HUGE “no” to yet another coin introduced into this game. There’s already too many of them from everybody wanting to be able to get gear 500 different ways.

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Let’s see… you do not need ascended, you do not like fractals, you do not do fractals… ascended simply takes too long.

Why bother with Ascended if you are not planning on doing fractals? You are right, you can craft exotics that are just a little bit weaker than ascended and you probably will not notice the small difference.

By the way, Fractals will only give you the Back Item and the Rings. So, I do not think anyone is getting ALL their ascended by doing fractals.

There are more than one way to get Ascended. 3 ways really: Laurels, FoTM Personal Reward Level 10 and Guild Missions.

Since you do not like Fractals, you dont have to worry about Agony and hence you do not need Ascended.

While you are complaining that Ascended are too tough to get, you want Legendary to be harder to get??

You entire post simply make no sense whatsoever to me… .

Ahh, i see your problem, sry, i forgot about something. Of course, there are also casuals, who want a legendary, but i dont want. My idea is to create a big gap between normal stuff and pestige stuff (mostly, but not only legendaries). This would make normal stuff far easier to obtain for casuals (casuals goes from a few hours and not each day to a few hours three days a month, so even, if you call yourself a casual, there are other casuals, that play even less), but legendaries would not makeable for casuals anymore, but they are only skins.

You can have better skins, but you dont need them, they have no benefit to you and there are enough other skins in the game. But ascended gear gives you also better stats, and although you can also play without them, it is of course an advantage to have them. I think, any player should have a chance to play with max stats (that was, what i loved in GW1, it was may not for free, but for any player payable to have a max armor without farming), but to make them obtainable (easy to get) needs on the other side something not obtainable (legendaries).

Of course, it sucks to see great skins without the chance to obtain them, but if you are really a casual, you should have no chance to get them anyway (you are not a casual, only because others play even more). To say it a mean way, the prestige stuff is rather something for players without a real life, only having the game. If you are a casual, this should mean, that you have things in your life more important than playing the game, so why whinig abot an non-obtainable prestige-skin, only enjoy the game.

Chris.6105:

Ahh, i see your problem, sry, i forgot about something. Of course, there are also casuals, who want a legendary, but i dont want. My idea is to create a big gap between normal stuff and pestige stuff (mostly, but not only legendaries). This would make normal stuff far easier to obtain for casuals (casuals goes from a few hours and not each day to a few hours three days a month, so even, if you call yourself a casual, there are other casuals, that play even less), but legendaries would not makeable for casuals anymore, but they are only skins.

You can have better skins, but you dont need them, they have no benefit to you and there are enough other skins in the game. But ascended gear gives you also better stats, and although you can also play without them, it is of course an advantage to have them. I think, any player should have a chance to play with max stats (that was, what i loved in GW1, it was may not for free, but for any player payable to have a max armor without farming), but to make them obtainable (easy to get) needs on the other side something not obtainable (legendaries).

Of course, it sucks to see great skins without the chance to obtain them, but if you are really a casual, you should have no chance to get them anyway (you are not a casual, only because others play even more). To say it a mean way, the prestige stuff is rather something for players without a real life, only having the game. If you are a casual, this should mean, that you have things in your life more important than playing the game, so why whinig abot an non-obtainable prestige-skin, only enjoy the game.

Because I paid the same 60$ that anyone else paid and I should have access to the game the same ways as anyone else. Why would you want to make an even greater disparity between casual and hardcore, every other game does this to the same or worse extent than guild wars 2 and it causes problems.

Aeonblade.8709:

Chris.6105:

Ahh, i see your problem, sry, i forgot about something. Of course, there are also casuals, who want a legendary, but i dont want. My idea is to create a big gap between normal stuff and pestige stuff (mostly, but not only legendaries). This would make normal stuff far easier to obtain for casuals (casuals goes from a few hours and not each day to a few hours three days a month, so even, if you call yourself a casual, there are other casuals, that play even less), but legendaries would not makeable for casuals anymore, but they are only skins.

You can have better skins, but you dont need them, they have no benefit to you and there are enough other skins in the game. But ascended gear gives you also better stats, and although you can also play without them, it is of course an advantage to have them. I think, any player should have a chance to play with max stats (that was, what i loved in GW1, it was may not for free, but for any player payable to have a max armor without farming), but to make them obtainable (easy to get) needs on the other side something not obtainable (legendaries).

Of course, it sucks to see great skins without the chance to obtain them, but if you are really a casual, you should have no chance to get them anyway (you are not a casual, only because others play even more). To say it a mean way, the prestige stuff is rather something for players without a real life, only having the game. If you are a casual, this should mean, that you have things in your life more important than playing the game, so why whinig abot an non-obtainable prestige-skin, only enjoy the game.

Because I paid the same 60$ that anyone else paid and I should have access to the game the same ways as anyone else.

That’s like saying I paid a health spa membership to a gym, but I don’t have the time to work out and I should build muscle or lose weight as fast as the next guy.

When you buy an MMO, you’re not actually buying a game. You’re buying an account. Access to a world. It doesn’t guarantee you’ll get ANYTHING but access to that world. It doesn’t guarantee you’ll like the game, be good enough to beat content (though that shouldn’t represent too much trouble in this particular game), or that you’ll play enough to get everything done in the game.

You know, I paid for a day’s access to Disneyworld, but I was only able to stay there for an hour. Do you think they’ll give me a refund because all I did was ride space mountain once?

Vayne.8563:

Aeonblade.8709:

Chris.6105:

Ahh, i see your problem, sry, i forgot about something. Of course, there are also casuals, who want a legendary, but i dont want. My idea is to create a big gap between normal stuff and pestige stuff (mostly, but not only legendaries). This would make normal stuff far easier to obtain for casuals (casuals goes from a few hours and not each day to a few hours three days a month, so even, if you call yourself a casual, there are other casuals, that play even less), but legendaries would not makeable for casuals anymore, but they are only skins.

You can have better skins, but you dont need them, they have no benefit to you and there are enough other skins in the game. But ascended gear gives you also better stats, and although you can also play without them, it is of course an advantage to have them. I think, any player should have a chance to play with max stats (that was, what i loved in GW1, it was may not for free, but for any player payable to have a max armor without farming), but to make them obtainable (easy to get) needs on the other side something not obtainable (legendaries).

Of course, it sucks to see great skins without the chance to obtain them, but if you are really a casual, you should have no chance to get them anyway (you are not a casual, only because others play even more). To say it a mean way, the prestige stuff is rather something for players without a real life, only having the game. If you are a casual, this should mean, that you have things in your life more important than playing the game, so why whinig abot an non-obtainable prestige-skin, only enjoy the game.

Because I paid the same 60$ that anyone else paid and I should have access to the game the same ways as anyone else.

That’s like saying I paid a health spa membership to a gym, but I don’t have the time to work out and I should build muscle or lose weight as fast as the next guy.

When you buy an MMO, you’re not actually buying a game. You’re buying an account. Access to a world. It doesn’t guarantee you’ll get ANYTHING but access to that world. It doesn’t guarantee you’ll like the game, be good enough to beat content (though that shouldn’t represent too much trouble in this particular game), or that you’ll play enough to get everything done in the game.

You know, I paid for a day’s access to Disneyworld, but I was only able to stay there for an hour. Do you think they’ll give me a refund because all I did was ride space mountain once?

I don’t think you understand what he was saying or why I was disagreeing with him.

Aeonblade.8709:

Vayne.8563:

Aeonblade.8709:

Chris.6105:

Ahh, i see your problem, sry, i forgot about something. Of course, there are also casuals, who want a legendary, but i dont want. My idea is to create a big gap between normal stuff and pestige stuff (mostly, but not only legendaries). This would make normal stuff far easier to obtain for casuals (casuals goes from a few hours and not each day to a few hours three days a month, so even, if you call yourself a casual, there are other casuals, that play even less), but legendaries would not makeable for casuals anymore, but they are only skins.

You can have better skins, but you dont need them, they have no benefit to you and there are enough other skins in the game. But ascended gear gives you also better stats, and although you can also play without them, it is of course an advantage to have them. I think, any player should have a chance to play with max stats (that was, what i loved in GW1, it was may not for free, but for any player payable to have a max armor without farming), but to make them obtainable (easy to get) needs on the other side something not obtainable (legendaries).

Of course, it sucks to see great skins without the chance to obtain them, but if you are really a casual, you should have no chance to get them anyway (you are not a casual, only because others play even more). To say it a mean way, the prestige stuff is rather something for players without a real life, only having the game. If you are a casual, this should mean, that you have things in your life more important than playing the game, so why whinig abot an non-obtainable prestige-skin, only enjoy the game.

Because I paid the same 60$ that anyone else paid and I should have access to the game the same ways as anyone else.

That’s like saying I paid a health spa membership to a gym, but I don’t have the time to work out and I should build muscle or lose weight as fast as the next guy.

When you buy an MMO, you’re not actually buying a game. You’re buying an account. Access to a world. It doesn’t guarantee you’ll get ANYTHING but access to that world. It doesn’t guarantee you’ll like the game, be good enough to beat content (though that shouldn’t represent too much trouble in this particular game), or that you’ll play enough to get everything done in the game.

You know, I paid for a day’s access to Disneyworld, but I was only able to stay there for an hour. Do you think they’ll give me a refund because all I did was ride space mountain once?

I don’t think you understand what he was saying or why I was disagreeing with him.

Maybe so, but it seems that you at least were saying you want access to ascended weapon skins even though you have extremely limited time to work on getting one.