Guild Wars 2

I don’t understand what they were thinking? A Thief’s best skill steal just got nerfed and they wont admit it!

I don’t know any theif that doesn’t use steal and mug as there opening skill when they go to attack someone. Now it is a waste!!!! Doesn’t deal crit damage inorder to heal your self. Hello MCfly what good is healing for 3000 when i am already at full health. This doesn’t work at all now all that money i just spent on fixing my thief to be perfect shadow killer doesn’t work. They are just going to keep nerfing builds for us to spend money on their trader. ITS A TRAP!!!! …….. So in conclusion i have to say this what they just nerfed Shadow Form!!!!!!

It heals for 2000, not 3000. It hits for 1300-2100.

Doesn’t matter how much IT heals for i have FULL HEALTH!!!!!!

The mug heal isn’t bad and was a pretty smart nerf imo. Anet really should have reduced the cd on steal to compensate for the type of nerf though. They apparently don’t want us to burst anymore but want to make us into better bruisers. A cd drop would really help to achieve this while also helping to buff the other (semi-lacking) traits associated with steal. The reason why steal traits are lacking isn’t b/c they’re overly weak, it’s b/c they’ll be used once every 45s ish max. If that were to happen you’d really be enjoying the small heal associated with mug. It kind of gives you that bust heal that does helps to reset a bad engagement with really annoying your opponent. It’s similar to what eles so when they attune to water.

30 seconds untraited, 25 traited. Fair.

Zero.6082:

Doesn’t matter how much IT heals for i have FULL HEALTH!!!!!!

Pro tip, use something else as your opener. Grab bountiful theft instead (or along with it) and rip the opponents boons while also healing yourself (you really don’t steal them as they evaporate in seconds).

Zero.6082:

I don’t understand what they were thinking? A Thief’s best skill steal just got nerfed and they wont admit it!

It kinda makes sense.

We steal items and now steal health and boons.

Need more things to steal. Like stealing 100 blades, limbs, pants, etc.

This extra stealing only applies to 1 trait and a weapon set though. Need more stealing on every weapon set. We also need reverse pick-pocketing. I wanna reverse pickpocket deadly venoms and bombs into peoples’ pants.

I am confused I like my three step process that kills you in three hits forget your boons your on the ground XD

I just want them to admit they are nerfing it cause people are complaining cause they can’t win against it. Point shadow form we all know anet screwed up but at least own up to it don’t say it helps you survive longer. Last time i checked if you died and i am alive i lived longer regardless of healing.

But it’s a buff in PvE. And it’s not a nerf everytime you steal when not having full HP. It’s a nerf for the stupid basilisk + CnD + Steal + Backstab combo that kills you in 0.5s, which takes no skill to pull off and requires a deal more to counter.

Inb4 “l2p”, I play a tanky guardian and your combo ends up with you dead.

? PVE WvW PVP come on guys lets face it the thief is ment for one on one fights in the arena. Thats how they are designed. That’s how they win. Change the whole class then. I repeat play full set of lyssa runes. Pop the baskalisk venom you have all the buffs you will ever need!

I think we’re quite on a different… ehm… wave lenght? I’ll leave it at that. Good bye sir, have fun with your incoherent blabber and one-trick-pony builds.

Wolf i don’t chase guardians they are my weakness thats dumb. Just like i don’t think you would mess with a condition necro, because i have not met a guardian who can beat him.

That combo was never hard to counter… see a thief with basilisk on him or casting it he is going to do one thing, open with steal. Good thieves don’t do this though and it does take skill to land a burst if your opponent isn’t mentally challenged. If you were dying to that you were never built properly anyway or simply don’t know how to play, especially as a guardian where you can easily counter that with a simple virtue.

It’s too difficult for the majority of players in this game to refrain from spamming their abilities instead of using them when they benefit you most so yeah thief is meant to be a punishing proff for newbs. L2P while thief continuously get nerfs as a weak class, BM rangers and D/D ele’s along with phantasm mesmers all being OP and basically playing themselves continue to run rampant. Funny that no one seems to notice, just because thieves are annoying. Ah almost forgot HGH…

Mug nerf totally not needed, and I would much rather have a source of protection on the thief than a crappy heal. It’s so obvious that devs don’t play this proff, they die just by getting breathed on.

I can’t help but feel this change was done solely so those squishy little glass-cannons in PvP and WvW wouldn’t cry when being dumped on their squishy little heads. God forbid they slap some +Toughness armor on…just nerf the thief’s 45 second cooldown Steal – their class mechanic – that may or may not critical so Berserker Billy doesn’t get hit too hard.

Agreed with the above statement i mean all i had was my burst combo and now it gets nerfed i agree there are a few builds out there, but i am set for burst!!! i am not going to was 40 gold + to change everything again to make my self a new theif especially when mesmers, shortbow/sword rangers, and d/d ele’s are way more overpowered. I have played a good amount of pvp i am just saying what was going through your mind when you said yeah heal on an opening move. I use it to get close to my enemy to engage in a fight i wont wait and run up to you.

Dark i am guessing you have never played thief before, but our traites are set up for two things
1. Stealth
2. burst damage

What you just said is like asking a guardian to stop healing!

darkace.8925:

I can’t help but feel this change was done solely so those squishy little glass-cannons in PvP and WvW wouldn’t cry when being dumped on their squishy little heads. God forbid they slap some +Toughness armor on…just nerf the thief’s 45 second cooldown Steal – their class mechanic – that may or may not critical so Berserker Billy doesn’t get hit too hard.

Exactly, …berserker billy rofl

O ok my bad darkness i miss read what you said i agree! Lol heaven forbid the elemental uses toughness armor instead of berserker. My guardian roles thieves, then thieves role glass cannons its how the game works. Don’t Nerf my best skill to make a point though Q.Q

It’s not that bad. Thieves need their burst nerfed and everything else buffed.

So they nerfed burst gave us nothing?