Guild Wars 2

Throw in an optional cosmetic for the VIP that makes your char all glowy, or maybe the sparkle effect from the loot bug. People love that stuff.

Shiyo.3578:

Khisanth.2948:

Shiyo.3578:

I would pay $8-15/month for something like PSO2 has – extra bank slots that you can store items in while subbed and can still take items out of them when your sub is gone, but cannot keep depositing stuff into them after you lose your sub.

Also a key ring for all your keys you can access on any character!

As well as a few other bonuses that are just nice to have, not sure what GW2 could give as well, but more bank space would be great.

You can already buy all of those things permanently …

Key ring would be a very slippery thing to start getting into. A common tactic of crappy F2P games is to stick pay walls all over the place(I have no problem with businesses making money, that is how they can continue existing but plobbing down obstacles everywhere until you pay is not the way to go). What would GW2 gain from turning into yet another bad F2P game? That market is already very crowded. Probably more crowded than GW2’s existing market.

You can buy storage in PSO2 too, but this gives you extra storage on top of that so instead of paying $10 per slot you get like 6 storage expanders for $15/month or whatever.

Which is an extremely bad choice unless you are planning to quit the game in less than half a year.

Considering we were promised more than once that this will not happen, I just don’t know what to think of this thread.

I find it interesting, one of the most requested things is unlimited trans stones… Ok how much do you guys want to price this VIP at? I mean A-net still needs to make money out of the deal and unlimited trans stones would be a very very valueable luxury

Miku.6297:

I find it interesting, one of the most requested things is unlimited trans stones… Ok how much do you guys want to price this VIP at? I mean A-net still needs to make money out of the deal and unlimited trans stones would be a very very valueable luxury

Hard to say how much ANet would charge for one. I’ve never bought a gemstore T charge. All mine are from ingame so any price I pay would be money they wouldn’t have gotten from me.

But I’ll say I’d be willing to pay 1000 gems for a permanent, infinite T charge.

If any form of paid subscription is offered, I will quit playing.

ViP players should be able to play the game and download new patches for free…

Tman.6349:

ViP players should be able to play the game and download new patches for free…

But…the patches are free… :/

“Convinience sub” in one of the most convinient MMOs on the market? This won’t end well.

What they should do.

Have the VIP package items be sold separately and be # of uses or 28 real life time day timer for each. So reduced waypoint fees for 28 days. 50 instant repair canisters.

So players can buy the items in the VIP package via gems if they so choose. That way nothing in the gem store is out of reach of any player.

The VIP package itself puts them all together and for the purchase of it in $ or whatever currency, you get them for X% fewer gems. So if it cost 1000 gems separately, it costs the $ amount to buy 750 gems for the VIP package or $ amount to by 900 gems or whatever.

So the VIP package basically comes down to a discount service.

Miku.6297:

I find it interesting, one of the most requested things is unlimited trans stones… Ok how much do you guys want to price this VIP at? I mean A-net still needs to make money out of the deal and unlimited trans stones would be a very very valueable luxury

In fairness, transmutation shouldn’t have such steep costs to begin with…considering how heavily this game is focused on cosmetics. I suggested $15 a month (x12 = $180) for a bundle of services because that’s more or less the industry standard. It’s pretty common for businesses to offer VIP and membership packages that offer considerable savings to those willing to spend a bunch of money at once.

Sure, cash shops in MMOs get by pretty well on ‘whales’, but I’m pretty sure my suggestions would be profitable because it offers services that most players want but relatively few people need enough to spend money on. The company still stands to make a bunch of money from glider skins, outfits, BLC keys and all of the other fluff items.

How is spending 15$ a month making you someone willing to spend “a bunch of money at once”?

I have a feeling A-net makes more then 15$ a month from some players on stones, and make over kits. (yes some don’t buy many, others do)

Miku.6297:

How is spending 15$ a month making you someone willing to spend “a bunch of money at once”?

I have a feeling A-net makes more then 15$ a month from some players on stones, and make over kits. (yes some don’t buy many, others do)

It’s a year-long commitment, therefore $180.

And well, I dunno. It’s just speculation at this point. Personally, I think all of the gem store single-use items are grossly overpriced to begin with and this game would have floundered long ago if not for the gold exchange.

I think the number of people who would be willing to spend $15 would more than cover the ‘losses’ of those who spend $50 or so on these items (who might then be tempted to spend the rest of that money on gem store items they otherwise would not).

Jahroots.6791:

It’s a year-long commitment, therefore $180.

And well, I dunno. It’s just speculation at this point. Personally, I think all of the gem store single-use items are grossly overpriced

Ah I thought you meant it would be 15$ a month so a year would be 180. If it was a 180$ up front purchase yea, that would be more realistic.

Oh come on about the gem store prices… You know you want to buy one of those extractors for WAY more then it would cost to just buy a new rune/sigil for about 95% of the rune/sigil/upgrade things out there xD

I cannot imagine anything they could reasonably offer that would persuade me to subscribe. And anything that might persuade me is equally likely to persuade me to quit the game because then I’d feel like I have to subscribe and then I have to play enough every month to justify the subscription and that’s a position I never want to be in again.

The absence of a subscription is one of the major selling points of Guild Wars for me. It’s the thing that originally got me interested in the first game. Thankfully I’m very sure Anet won’t go down this route but if they did I’d be extremely disappointed.

Please no subscriptions…
This game is already basically buy to play I cannot even imagine how someone can play on this game f2p…
There is no need for this sort of money milking….

Swagger.1459:

The purpose of this thread is to see what YOU would want in an optional monthly paid VIP subscription IF it was offered to players.

Post your constuctive VIP sub model ideas, not your personal dislikes of the VIP sub idea in general.

Go…

Edit- This thread is not to post your approval or disproval of a VIP model, it’s to share what you would want IF it were going to happen. I’m not asking if you like it or not. It’s a “what if?” thing.

It’s NOT going to happen, so there really isnt any point playing the “what if” game.

Never say never. Anet said we would never get a higher tier of gear above exotic, but look what happened. Now we have Ascended. They said we wouldn’t have account wide dyes cause they weren’t meant to be collectables. Now we have account wide dyes.

Point is, never say Anet won’t do it. Because as they have proven over the years, they can go back on their word at any time.

On topic, as for the VIP Subscription, I would easily pay 15 bucks a month if that meant I would get like 800 gems a month and infinite transmutation charges. Even if was a yearly thing, where I had to pay say 150 bucks a year, I’d expect a monthly amount of gems (at least 800), and still infinite transmutation charges. That is pretty much all I could see getting from it.

Maybe as well stepping ahead of the line if there are queues or anything, but that has never been an issue.

But as for any in game benefit, like no waypoint costs or things like that, I’d have to disagree with those. Cause then people are going to see it as a P2W thing and that’s just a bunch of drama waiting to burst.

So simply just make a Gem Store only thing. VIP access gives you a monthly allocation of gems, and infinite transmutation charges. Maybe a Black Lion key a month or something so you can gamble away with chests, I don’t know. But don’t add any actual in game benefits or then it becomes an advantage.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

On topic, as for the VIP Subscription, I would easily pay 15 bucks a month if that meant I would get like 800 gems a month and infinite transmutation charges. Even if was a yearly thing, where I had to pay say 150 bucks a year, I’d expect a monthly amount of gems (at least 800), and still infinite transmutation charges. That is pretty much all I could see getting from it.

15$ a month and 800 gems and infinite trans charges. 800 gems a month = 10$ a month.. I some how don’t see that adding up in A-nets favor.

Miku.6297:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

On topic, as for the VIP Subscription, I would easily pay 15 bucks a month if that meant I would get like 800 gems a month and infinite transmutation charges. Even if was a yearly thing, where I had to pay say 150 bucks a year, I’d expect a monthly amount of gems (at least 800), and still infinite transmutation charges. That is pretty much all I could see getting from it.

15$ a month and 800 gems and infinite trans charges. 800 gems a month = 10$ a month.. I some how don’t see that adding up in A-nets favor.

The way I see it is, you gotta offer a pretty impressive deal to get people to pay a monthly subscription to GW2.

As it is now, I can pay 15 bucks a month on another MMO and get everything the game has to offer just for that. No cash shop or anything, just 15 bucks and I have access to everything.

With GW2, even if I pay 15 bucks a month and get 800 gems and infinite transmutation charges, I still have to pay even more money to have access to everything the game has to offer.

So in order to make that commitment to pay monthly for GW2, the deal has to be in favor of the customer to make it worth it. Especially when other games will give me everything for 15 bucks a month, when GW2 won’t. So you have to offer a decent enough deal to make that 15 bucks even worth it. And I feel that is reasonable.

infinite trans charges being priced at 5$ a month is probably not that reasonable. The other games you are speaking that let you have access to the game for just 15$ a month, REQUIRE that 15$ a month to play. Do you get free stuff with your 15$? If you don’t pay your 15$ do you get to play?

It’s not the same type of thing; ViP access and a Pay to Play sub are very different.

Miku.6297:

infinite trans charges being priced at 5$ a month is probably not that reasonable. The other games you are speaking that let you have access to the game for just 15$ a month, REQUIRE that 15$ a month to play. Do you get free stuff with your 15$? If you don’t pay your 15$ do you get to play?

It’s not the same type of thing; ViP access and a Pay to Play sub are very different.

Yes you still get to play without paying that 15 bucks a month.

But with restrictions. Just like GW2. If you are on a free account and playing for free, you have restrictions. They differ between the two, yet you still have restrictions if you are not paying for the game.

It is up to you to decide if paying that monthly subscription is worth lifting those restrictions. Whether GW2 or the other game. But at least with the other game, when you pay that monthly subscription, it lifts ALL restrictions. With GW2, if it had a VIP monthly subscription like the one I proposed, you would still have restrictions. The one I proposed just helps alleviate some of those restrictions, while still leaving others in place.

Which begs the question, why would I pay for a VIP service, if it is not worth it? Thus why you need to make it worth it in favor of the customer to encourage them to purchase a VIP subscription.

1. free gems
2. free character slot
3. priority wvw queue
4. dc queue spot saved

Taxidriver.2043:

1. free gems
2. free character slot
3. priority wvw queue
4. dc queue spot saved

- 3 is pay to win.
- 4 should not be locked behind a pay wall if it is something they can do.

Taxidriver.2043:

1. free gems
2. free character slot
3. priority wvw queue
4. dc queue spot saved

1. Not happening
2. Not happening
3. Not happening
4. think it’s already here?

I think a subscription is the wrong way to go with this, especially as they’ve already done something better.

A couple of times, they’ve given extras to people that purchased gems with real money. I’d say the “VIP rewards” should come every X amount of gems purchased with cash. (Or gem cards, which are purchased with cash.) And it should be mostly something minor. Say, a bag with 2-5 BL ticket scraps, or a “Lucky Key” that opens one BL chest with a somewhat better loot table. Just… stuff. Minor but good stuff. Nothing that affects gold sinks or difficulty.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Yes you still get to play without paying that 15 bucks a month.

But with restrictions. Just like GW2. If you are on a free account and playing for free, you have restrictions. They differ between the two, yet you still have restrictions if you are not paying for the game.

It is up to you to decide if paying that monthly subscription is worth lifting those restrictions. Whether GW2 or the other game. But at least with the other game, when you pay that monthly subscription, it lifts ALL restrictions. With GW2, if it had a VIP monthly subscription like the one I proposed, you would still have restrictions. The one I proposed just helps alleviate some of those restrictions, while still leaving others in place.

Which begs the question, why would I pay for a VIP service, if it is not worth it? Thus why you need to make it worth it in favor of the customer to encourage them to purchase a VIP subscription.

What game is it you are talking about so I could look at the sub model.

If it “unlocks” things, are these things that are unlocked items that are sold in the cash shop? Or is it just unlocked bonus features/things like blade and souls premium memberships etc?

Obviously to make a ViP sub worth it it has to give the player(purchaser) something they feel is worth it. However the business also needs to see a return in value.

alot of the mmo in china have vip program, including GW2.

Aidan Savage.2078:

Taxidriver.2043:

1. free gems
2. free character slot
3. priority wvw queue
4. dc queue spot saved

1. Not happening
2. Not happening
3. Not happening
4. think it’s already here?

If there’s a subscription fee or whatever nothing of that is free anyway. Let’s say someone buys x gems every month. Then he gets " free gems" from that self made subscription. And if he buys a character slot with those gems then the second one too.

Though yeah. The wording is a bit weird.

no subscription system is what gw2 a unique mmo and got nice review back then, i can see where this game goes if they implemented such option, no damaged armor upon death, really? and shiny new vip icon beside your character name, i agreed with the guy that said this will separate regular and elitist who will kick anyone that isnt subscribed to vip just because they wouldnt wait them to repair for 5 seconds.

For a monthly pay I want to see monthly content.
So Im not talking about the copy paste events that we see coming back every year, like the x-mas jumping puzzle, or haloween, etc, you know what’s up.

I still want to pay 9k gems for a cape, but Arenanet doesnt want my money.
99% of the back items are a complete joke. when Im preview back items Im lmao seriously, i dont want to wear some plush toddlers back item, i dont want to represent a complete family barbecue set on my back either. And what’s up with these nightclosets, stop trolling and give us Capes wtf Arenanet xd

1 – Player Housing.
2 – Unlimited stack amounts. (By this I mean your collections tabs and inv stacks can go beyond the 250 to be an infinite amount. I know it’s possible as another game I used to play does it).

3 – Infinite Transmute Charges.
4 – All future expansions free of charge.
5 – Access to all future released Gem Store items (Outfits/Skins/Gathering Tools/etc).

You see where this is going? Basically since I would be paying cash monthly why would I ever need (or be expected) to spend any in the gem store? Those items should come free to me.

That would be just for starters, for a sub I would expect lot more.

Paulytnz.7619:

1 – Player Housing.
2 – Unlimited stack amounts. (By this I mean your collections tabs and inv stacks can go beyond the 250 to be an infinite amount. I know it’s possible as another game I used to play does it).

3 – Infinite Transmute Charges.
4 – All future expansions free of charge.
5 – Access to all future released Gem Store items (Outfits/Skins/Gathering Tools/etc).

You see where this is going? Basically since I would be paying cash monthly why would I ever need (or be expected) to spend any in the gem store? Those items should come free to me.

That would be just for starters, for a sub I would expect lot more.

Just following the what if trend. How much would you expect to pay for a sub like this on a month to month basis….

Most VIP plans provide a proxy currency stipend and a minor discount at the cash shop. Free waypoint costs also doesn’t significantly affect the game world or economy.

Key thing is to not to include anything that can be seen as Pay 2 Win or gut some item price on the TP. So no free access to anything that is currently a perma-contract. I wouldn’t include unlimited transmutations but I can see X amount of charges per month.

Honestly free expansions, nope economically unsound. Player Housing, nope they aren’t going to devote a team to make something new just to include it to VIP.

You all are going to have to first look at other VIP pseudo-subscriptions and see what’s actually industry standard ideas instead of some of these blue moon ideas.

Hmm, how about:

For $10 per month you get $10 worth of gems.

Ashen.2907:

Hmm, how about:

For $10 per month you get $10 worth of gems.

There seems to be a misunderstanding in this thread of what a VIP sub is for and what kind of customer would be interested in it.

The FTP business model (in general; I obviously don’t know GW2’s demographics) tend to rely heavily on “fat cat” players, who are willing to drop large amounts of money at once. People that buy gems to fund legendaries, who gamble with BL keys, etc. It’s a business model that’s notorious for killing games by incentivizing cashable development instead of core gameplay development (although, to be fair, GW2 has been impacted by this less then normal).

Long term, dedicated players who just play the game an hour or two per day tend to get left out of such a system, since they don’t feel there’s anything of value (to them; see my sig) to buy. They typically don’t want to drop large amounts of money on “just a game” but have no problem flinging some cash at a service they appreciate. These are the customers that a VIP subscription is marketed to. This is of value to the game, since it expands their market to include their most reliable customers, and if properly done it won’t affect either the Fat Cat customers or gameplay. This gives Anet a reliable income stream that doesn’t rely on constantly marketing new goodies for the gem store and encourages development of gameplay instead, so having a well done VIP sub is of value to the player community as well.

Sub bonuses should therefore be consistent, minor additions that are always valuable no matter what the state of the game is. And of course, have no effect at all on active gameplay.

With that in mind, these are my suggestions:
1) $10.00 or $15.00 monthly
2) 800 Gems per month ($10 value)
3) No waypoint costs
4) Unlimited Hair Style change NPC
5) 10 free Transmute charges per month.
6) Service NPC’s appear in your home instance.
7) Personal Banker Golem for all characters

Notes and justifications:
1 and 2) This will depend on whether Anet wants to offer the full value of the sub as gems, and just use the extra incentives to encourage customer loyalty, or whether they think the incentives are worth money on their own.

3) +1 to the guy that suggested it. It’s economically trivial, but gives the feeling of convenience, exactly what a VIP sub should be.

4) This will be controversial since it’s a gem store item, but it has some advantages. It’s a popular service and makes a good draw to the sub, it doesn’t affect gameplay at all, and tweaking their character’s appearance more often may encourage people to buy the Full Makeover Kit.

5) Another economically trivial bonus that doubles as marketing for other services. Xmogs are already dropped in game, so another 10 per month just encourages more tweaking of ppl’s character, which in turn encourages skin/outfit collecting and may bring people to the gem store.

6) This is meant to give a “personal” feel to the game, which tends to be exactly what long term casual players want. NPC’s that offer various services like bank, TP, vendor, etc, plus the Hair Style vendor from #4, and maybe even a Buff Bot NPC that offers to cast various Black Lion Boosts on you for free (no magic find / damage boosts, since that’s gameplay related).

7) Convenience is the the #1 marketable feature that doesn’t affect gameplay.

Rhyse.8179:

Ashen.2907:

Hmm, how about:

For $10 per month you get $10 worth of gems.

There seems to be a misunderstanding in this thread of what a VIP sub is for and what kind of customer would be interested in it.

The FTP business model (in general; I obviously don’t know GW2’s demographics) tend to rely heavily on “fat cat” players, who are willing to drop large amounts of money at once. People that buy gems to fund legendaries, who gamble with BL keys, etc. It’s a business model that’s notorious for killing games by incentivizing cashable development instead of core gameplay development (although, to be fair, GW2 has been impacted by this less then normal).

Long term, dedicated players who just play the game an hour or two per day tend to get left out of such a system, since they don’t feel there’s anything of value (to them; see my sig) to buy. They typically don’t want to drop large amounts of money on “just a game” but have no problem flinging some cash at a service they appreciate. These are the customers that a VIP subscription is marketed to. This is of value to the game, since it expands their market to include their most reliable customers, and if properly done it won’t affect either the Fat Cat customers or gameplay. This gives Anet a reliable income stream that doesn’t rely on constantly marketing new goodies for the gem store and encourages development of gameplay instead, so having a well done VIP sub is of value to the player community as well.

Sub bonuses should therefore be consistent, minor additions that are always valuable no matter what the state of the game is. And of course, have no effect at all on active gameplay.

With that in mind, these are my suggestions:
1) $10.00 or $15.00 monthly
2) 800 Gems per month ($10 value)
3) No waypoint costs
4) Unlimited Hair Style change NPC
5) 10 free Transmute charges per month.
6) Service NPC’s appear in your home instance.
7) Personal Banker Golem for all characters

Notes and justifications:
1 and 2) This will depend on whether Anet wants to offer the full value of the sub as gems, and just use the extra incentives to encourage customer loyalty, or whether they think the incentives are worth money on their own.

3) +1 to the guy that suggested it. It’s economically trivial, but gives the feeling of convenience, exactly what a VIP sub should be.

4) This will be controversial since it’s a gem store item, but it has some advantages. It’s a popular service and makes a good draw to the sub, it doesn’t affect gameplay at all, and tweaking their character’s appearance more often may encourage people to buy the Full Makeover Kit.

5) Another economically trivial bonus that doubles as marketing for other services. Xmogs are already dropped in game, so another 10 per month just encourages more tweaking of ppl’s character, which in turn encourages skin/outfit collecting and may bring people to the gem store.

6) This is meant to give a “personal” feel to the game, which tends to be exactly what long term casual players want. NPC’s that offer various services like bank, TP, vendor, etc, plus the Hair Style vendor from #4, and maybe even a Buff Bot NPC that offers to cast various Black Lion Boosts on you for free (no magic find / damage boosts, since that’s gameplay related).

7) Convenience is the the #1 marketable feature that doesn’t affect gameplay.

4) Isn’t just a gem store item but a huge TP item as all the contracts are. It would be like giving away a legendary greatsword.

Don’t really have a problem with anything else other than the amount of gems for the stipend. Industry standard is around 1/2 of the VIP cost. Honestly 400 gems and a 10% gem shop discount (half of the normal sale discount). This way if the “subscriber” wants to take advantage of the discount in any serious way, they will likely need to buy more gems at full cost.

Additional small perks. Like one BL Key a month to go along with the transmutation charges.

the concept of any sort of subscription or VIP access is interesting. Putting aside the fact that ANet won’t do this, let’s think about the possible benefits.

First of all: why? I suppose you can say it’s to fund ANet’s development. But they don’t need funding. Currently, Anet is supporting themselves the following ways:
- The Gem Store
- Current and future expansions

In addition to licensed merchandise which probably gives them some money but idk for sure.

So we’ve established that Anet doesn’t really need extra money. What’s the purpose of a VIP or a Sub? Taking the focus off of Anet we look at the player. People are looking for more ways to spend their money because they like Anet and wanna get added benefits.

On the surface I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the concept of added benefits but what this boils down to is people wanting added benefits purely for the sake of it. If these benefits allow the player to have better access to the game — i.e. through no waypoint costs or through a character slot or black lion keys — then they have an advantage over players who don’t have VIP or Sub access. Obviously that’s kinda the point, but people who spend irl money on the Gem Store already get a lot of these benefits. What would be the point of having a separate system? To streamline the experience?

(And yeah Anet won’t do this kinda thing they’ve been saying it for about 11 years. Just cause they added ascended — a tier of gear that was planned before release — doesn’t mean their words suddenly mean whatever you want them to mean.)

But more money is more money. Yes they don’t need to do this right now for the reasons you listed @The Hematologist but it’s an interesting thought experiment and the responses are equally interesting.

Taxidriver.2043:

alot of the mmo in china have vip program, including GW2.

Then we have no need of subscriptions. If you want one, you can move to China. After all, China is a free country.

I think a subscription that allows people who already buy monthly gems to simply automate their purchasing of gems would be fine. But anything that makes a subbed player stand out or make a subbed player more valuable for guild recruitment or any game mode should never be implemented. Let’s not give Sneetches stars to put upon thars.

ANet has a perfectly fine business plan that seems to work for them. It works for consumers too, because Anet’s success is to some degree based on the idea that they have to provide fun things for players to do. The idea of throwing more money at them without them providing stuff to do bypasses that dynamic to the detriment of consumers.

I would want such an “optional” subscription not to exist. If one did, the company would “incentivize” it by providing benefits that players really could not do without, but which would only be available as long as you pay the monthly rental fee. There would be no “advantage-less” plan. That’s not the way that businesses think.

Swagger.1459:

Edit- This thread is not to post your approval or disproval of a VIP model, it’s to share what you would want IF it were going to happen. I’m not asking if you like it or not. It’s a “what if?” thing.

I don’t think you get to say whether people get to share an opinion about whether a VIP model would be good for the game. The very existence of such a program changes the way the game gets developed and the relationships of the players to each other.

As a result, if it were going to happen, I don’t care what the details are. I wouldn’t be playing. I don’t disapprove of VIP systems; I just don’t want to play games that have them, because it divides the community up in a way that disrupts cooperation rather than promotes it.

In the terms of the OP, what I’d want if a VIP system were implemented is to be playing a different game.

Hmm … there is a way to add a subscription without adding a subscription.

Path of Exile has supporter packs that people can buy in addition to the stuff in their store. https://www.pathofexile.com/purchase as you can see on the page some of those are pretty pricey and in the past there was another tier that was in the $1000 range. You can also set up a payment plan by contacting support. That is functionally equivalent to a subscription. Everything is cosmetic so there isn’t any issues with benefits. They are also more balanced than some of the ideas in this thread which might be great for players but sucks for ANet.

DaikonSamurai.6714:

I think a subscription that allows people who already buy monthly gems to simply automate their purchasing of gems would be fine. But anything that makes a subbed player stand out or make a subbed player more valuable for guild recruitment or any game mode should never be implemented. Let’s not give Sneetches stars to put upon thars.

Most of us aren’t making a “VIP” player attractive to a guild. Instead of the 800 gems for $10 it’s 400 gems and 400-ish gems worth of gem shop minor merch. What is in the gem shop that would make a player valuable for a guild?

It’s to attract players who aren’t whales buying $10-25 of gems a week.

And there’s nothing that would divide the player base that isn’t already happening because of the gem shop.

Behellagh.1468:

DaikonSamurai.6714:

I think a subscription that allows people who already buy monthly gems to simply automate their purchasing of gems would be fine. But anything that makes a subbed player stand out or make a subbed player more valuable for guild recruitment or any game mode should never be implemented. Let’s not give Sneetches stars to put upon thars.

Most of us aren’t making a “VIP” player attractive to a guild. Instead of the 800 gems for $10 it’s 400 gems and 400-ish gems worth of gem shop minor merch. What is in the gem shop that would make a player valuable for a guild?

It’s to attract players who aren’t whales buying $10-25 of gems a week.

And there’s nothing that would divide the player base that isn’t already happening because of the gem shop.

I said automated gem purchasing would be fine imo. Though why you’d want Anet to choose how those gems are spent for you makes no sense to me.

Ykfox.3825:

If you guys really feel a need to pay a subscription, you can always just buy 800 gems each month, or once every 2 months, and get most of what you’re listing….

This.

Nearly none of the ideas in this thread are unique or could not be done now or via additions to the gem store (add 80 boosts to the gemstore if need be).

If you absolutely want a subscription cost, buy regularly gems and convert them to gold or buy stuff off the Black Lion Store.

Seperating the playersbase into first class citizens and second class is not the way to go.

Endless Soul.5178:

I DO pay an optional subscription in the form of $15 and $25 gem cards.

Since I bought this game last year for $10, I’ve spent $160 in gem cards.

Yep, that’s what I did. Then became dissatisfied with the game (no rant mode) and stopped buying the Gems. If you like the game buy Gems and get your pretties.

Endless Soul.5178:

I DO pay an optional subscription in the form of $15 and $25 gem cards.

Since I bought this game last year for $10, I’ve spent $160 in gem cards.

Yep, that’s what I did. Then became dissatisfied with the game (no rant mode) and stopped buying the Gems. If you like the game buy Gems and get your pretties.

I think a reaction gif is in order.