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Posted by: Almighty Pain.2910

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I’ve been playing GW2 for 2 months now and just recently discovered about all the items one can get from HoM if they played GW1 in the past so my question is as a new GW2 player with no experience with GW1 at all should I buy GW1 just to farm those points?

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that I can only get GWAMM through playing GW1 and getting 50 points because I really want that title too. I wish ANET could give another option to be able to purchase those titles and skins from HoM for new players that never played GW1 in the past.

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

It isn’t worth it in your case because you only been with gw for a couple months. The skins are nothing super special nor are the titles.

For someone who has been here for 5years or something it may be worth it though as something to do and some back lore.

Gw1 is an entirely different game play. Good, but different.

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

No. There should not be another way to earn HoM items if you do not own and have played GW1. Those titles and items are there to reward those who played GW1.

And I’m someone who doesn’t own GW1 either.

If you want the title bad enough to warrant buying GW1 and playing it enough for the points needed, then buy GW1 and play it. Otherwise, you’re out of luck until you want it bad enough to do so.

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Posted by: Almighty Pain.2910

Almighty Pain.2910

Why can’t Anet make those titles and skins available for purchase they would make so much more money from players like me. I just found out too that there is no jump feature in GW1 which means there won’t be jumping puzzles which I enjoy a lot in GW2. Sigh.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Why? Because it was promised those rewards would only ever be attainable through playing Guild Wars (One). A nod of thanks to all the Guild Wars players that went through a 5-year content drought (more or less) waiting for GW2. Those rewards should never be placed in the Gem Store.

As for making so much more money? They will make money when you purchase Guild Wars Prophesies, Factions, Nightfall and/or Eye of the North.

Good luck.

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As for making so much more money? They will make money when you purchase Guild Wars Prophesies, Factions, Nightfall and/or Eye of the North.

Good luck.

IF I purchase those but if I don’t then they wouldn’t either.

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Posted by: zombyturtle.5980

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I bought gw1 purely for the minis you get for HOM points. I ended up loving gw1 and playing it all the way through, including some hard mode. I really dont think that HOM rewards should be available on the gem store at all. Its a really bad idea and will anger many gw vets. If you want them, they are avilable still by playing gw1.

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Posted by: Almighty Pain.2910

Almighty Pain.2910

I bought gw1 purely for the minis you get for HOM points. I ended up loving gw1 and playing it all the way through, including some hard mode. I really dont think that HOM rewards should be available on the gem store at all. Its a really bad idea and will anger many gw vets. If you want them, they are avilable still by playing gw1.

Is it possible to get to 50 playing it solo? At this late stage of the game how is the population?

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

As for making so much more money? They will make money when you purchase Guild Wars Prophesies, Factions, Nightfall and/or Eye of the North.

Good luck.

IF I purchase those but if I don’t then they wouldn’t either.

And you will not reap the rewards, as it should be. These are Guild Wars Vets rewards, and like the Celebration Hat, etc., should only be attainable by completing the reward requirements.

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Posted by: Game of Bones.8975

Game of Bones.8975

Don’t forget about the lag, the number of dedicated servers is probably minimal by now.

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Posted by: Almighty Pain.2910

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As for making so much more money? They will make money when you purchase Guild Wars Prophesies, Factions, Nightfall and/or Eye of the North.

Good luck.

IF I purchase those but if I don’t then they wouldn’t either.

And you will not reap the rewards, as it should be. These are Guild Wars Vets rewards, and like the Celebration Hat, etc., should only be attainable by completing the reward requirements.

Fair enough I guess, thanks for the input.

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Posted by: Almighty Pain.2910

Almighty Pain.2910

If it’s laggy and empty population then I will not waste money buying it and trying to play with lots of frustrations in the game.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

No problem.

Guild Wars became a mostly-solo game with the introduction of Heroes. It really changed how we played way back then. If you want the rewards, it should not be too difficult to attain the 30 HoM points. GWAMM, on the other hand, takes quite a bit more effort.

Do keep in mind: Guild Wars is a completely different game than Guild Wars 2. It’s not just a older. less up-to-date version of GW2. Still, it brought many players years of enjoyment.

There used to be a 10-day? 10-hour? trial. I don’t know if it is still offered. If so, you could check GW out that way.

Good luck.

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Posted by: Almighty Pain.2910

Almighty Pain.2910

I just hope that once I become a GW2 veteran that Anet do something for us when they finally decide to release a GW3 lol. Within my 2 months of play time I’ve already leveled up a necro and warrior to lvl 80 with 100% world map completion on both and fully equipped with exotic gear. I put a lot of hours into GW2 and I can do the same with GW1 if it’s still playable with good population.

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Inculpatus cedo.9234

I don’t know; you don’t really need a good population, as every map is instanced. Heroes and Henchmen take the place of players in those maps. I suppose what a bigger population offers is more people to trade with, to bypass some of the requirements to fill the Hall of Monuments. And, maybe, a couple of HM Missions that require 2 or more players. Still, I think there are enough possible avenues to get points (just as with Mastery Points in GW2) that that would not be a deterrent.

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Posted by: Almighty Pain.2910

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I don’t know; you don’t really need a good population, as every map is instanced. Heroes and Henchmen take the place of players in those maps. I suppose what a bigger population offers is more people to trade with, to bypass some of the requirements to fill the Hall of Monuments. And, maybe, a couple of HM Missions that require 2 or more players. Still, I think there are enough possible avenues to get points (just as with Mastery Points in GW2) that that would not be a deterrent.

I see, how long do you think it would take me to get to at least 30 if I play 12-15 hours a day? Which is how much I actually play GW2 lol

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

You can use this to estimate how long it would take you: https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guide_to_earning_Hall_of_Monuments_rewards

I could not say, as I’m sure my playstyle would have been different from yours.

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Posted by: zombyturtle.5980

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I see, how long do you think it would take me to get to at least 30 if I play 12-15 hours a day? Which is how much I actually play GW2 lol

Took me about a year to get to 30 playing casually so around 3-6 months maybe if you hardcore grind it. I dont think its possible to get to 50 solo as you need minis which you can only obtain by trading with players. This wasnt hard to do though as I just made a forum post and found someone within 1 day that was selling the ones I needed. 99% of the rest of the titles can be obtained solo. I think PVP ones will obviously require another person to beat, but I avoided them.

Id highly advise following guides though if you are only interested in the rewards as gw1 is a pretty complex game compared to gw1 and using heros for the harder missions will be hell unless you know exactly where to stand and how to bodyblock ect.

You can also save money on the game by buying it on steam, or through a key selling website.

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Posted by: Almighty Pain.2910

Almighty Pain.2910

Thanks for the input guys really appreciate it. Honestly, I only care about two things and they are the fire blade and GWAMM and I could really care less about the rest. If Anet decide to sell GWAMM for $100 I would take it. But seeing that it requires 50 and its difficult to get 50 without trading minis to other players I’m not sure if its worth buying and no guarantee I can get to 50.

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WARIORSCHARGEING.2637

in guild wars their is only maximum level of 20 . once you hit level 20 that’s it and no more!! which if you played guild wars like you played guild wars 2 you can hit level cap in 3 days !!

more right info here between quests and mission you can hit fast https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Quest

and not only that you get a lot of hero’s in the game to help you fight and do every thing . no need of other people at all as the maps for guild wars when you leave towns

it is just you and your hero’s https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hero

you can get GWAMM very easy in that game .

the hardest one to get is this one https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Cartographer
cartographer you got to cover all the maps and so forth and use a few small tricks to get it . other wise the rest of them are very easy to get

you can still join a guild or make your own even . its that easy to do .

and to prove that fact just use this wiki and you be just fine .
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page

but I will say the ranks that take the longest to get in that game is drunk sweet tooth . and light bringer and sun spear and eye of the north ranks . them are the most biggest farming part to the game as a whole . other wise you can do it with out thinking even .
yeah its that easy just you and your heroes and map and off you go . hope you find it as much fun as us vets of that game have found it .

no new system upgrades coming

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Seera.5916

in guild wars their is only maximum level of 20 . once you hit level 20 that’s it and no more!! which if you played guild wars like you played guild wars 2 you can hit level cap in 3 days !!

more right info here between quests and mission you can hit fast https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Quest

and not only that you get a lot of hero’s in the game to help you fight and do every thing . no need of other people at all as the maps for guild wars when you leave towns

it is just you and your hero’s https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hero

you can get GWAMM very easy in that game .

the hardest one to get is this one https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Cartographer
cartographer you got to cover all the maps and so forth and use a few small tricks to get it . other wise the rest of them are very easy to get

you can still join a guild or make your own even . its that easy to do .

and to prove that fact just use this wiki and you be just fine .
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page

but I will say the ranks that take the longest to get in that game is drunk sweet tooth . and light bringer and sun spear and eye of the north ranks . them are the most biggest farming part to the game as a whole . other wise you can do it with out thinking even .
yeah its that easy just you and your heroes and map and off you go . hope you find it as much fun as us vets of that game have found it .

The OP wants GWAMM in this game, which requires 50 points in the HoM. Which isn’t super easy to do now that the game is older and on maintenance mode pretty much.

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Posted by: Almighty Pain.2910

Almighty Pain.2910

No. There should not be another way to earn HoM items if you do not own and have played GW1. Those titles and items are there to reward those who played GW1.

And I’m someone who doesn’t own GW1 either.

If you want the title bad enough to warrant buying GW1 and playing it enough for the points needed, then buy GW1 and play it. Otherwise, you’re out of luck until you want it bad enough to do so.

Would you risk buying GW1 to get the skins and titles from HoM at this stage of the game?

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Posted by: Seera.5916

Seera.5916

No. There should not be another way to earn HoM items if you do not own and have played GW1. Those titles and items are there to reward those who played GW1.

And I’m someone who doesn’t own GW1 either.

If you want the title bad enough to warrant buying GW1 and playing it enough for the points needed, then buy GW1 and play it. Otherwise, you’re out of luck until you want it bad enough to do so.

Would you risk buying GW1 to get the skins and titles from HoM at this stage of the game?

I wouldn’t, but what I miss out on for not doing it, isn’t worth the time and money for me. And I know a couple of people who likely have a ton of birthday gifts that would likely be willing to hop onto the game and help me with the minis and to get the other assortment of things that they’ve already earned for themselves.

For you, that might be different.

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Posted by: Ashantara.8731

Ashantara.8731

I’ve been playing GW2 for 2 months now and just recently discovered about all the items one can get from HoM if they played GW1 in the past so my question is as a new GW2 player with no experience with GW1 at all should I buy GW1 just to farm those points?

You would have to play the game for years in order to get all those achievements required for the title and the skins.

I wouldn’t recommend it, at least not for that reason. However, if you want to experience the story for the lore and the fun that GW1 provided, then I definitely recommend you got the game.

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Posted by: Almighty Pain.2910

Almighty Pain.2910

Thanks for all the input guys after much thought and consideration I decided that I will not buy GW1 at this point because it may very much be a trap for someone who desires HoM 50 points at this end stage life of the game. I will focus all my time in GW2 instead of wasting money on GW1.

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Posted by: Ashantara.8731

Ashantara.8731

Thanks for all the input guys after much thought and consideration I decided that I will not buy GW1 at this point because it may very much be a trap for someone who desires HoM 50 points at this end stage life of the game. I will focus all my time in GW2 instead of wasting money on GW1.

I wouldn’t call it a waste. In some regards, it’s a better game than GW2 (the story-telling alone!). But I understand how it could be a time trap for you.

P.S. As for the money, you wouldn’t spend nearly as much as you spend in GW2, since the latter has a Gem Store.

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Posted by: aikatara.3462

aikatara.3462

One should not buy GW1 for the HoM alone, it is simply too much work to aquire those points. But it is worth considering buying GW1 for the sake of the story and the lore. But maybe not as a newbie at GW2. I’d first play GW2 for a bit and if you love the lore and want to know where it all began, you should consider it again. I bought GW1 to play the story and I do not regret it. The Prophecies-Story is epic. I bought Prophecies, Factions, Nightfall and Eye of the North to get the whole experience. Now I understand why the Cantha-thread keeps reappearing ;-).

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Posted by: Tiger Ashante.1792

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Thanks for the input guys really appreciate it. Honestly, I only care about two things and they are the fire blade and GWAMM and I could really care less about the rest. If Anet decide to sell GWAMM for $100 I would take it. But seeing that it requires 50 and its difficult to get 50 without trading minis to other players I’m not sure if its worth buying and no guarantee I can get to 50.

GWAMM requires u virtually do everything in gw1 in both normal and hard mode, however, if u start with Nightfall, you can unlock enough heroes very quickly to be able to do all the content at least in normal mode, that should get u very close to your 30 points in HoM. Honestly, the rest of HoM points are not really worth chasing as they’re all just titles that don’t even count toward GWAMM, which requires you to obtain 30 other titles.

But as to whether it’s worth to play? Absolutely. GW1 is an amazing and fun game once u get used to it. I’ve been logging in over the past year every so often and i always see players in Ember Beach and Kamadan etc. so yeah if u play as much as you do, you should be able to do it all with heroes. I mean i’ve done everything with my heroes in both normal and Hard mode, they do require some micro management but u get used to it. And just bear in mind, the better u equip your Heroes and the better skills u give them, the more effective they will be. Also to get ur GWAMM and the 30 HoM points, u will need all the content in gw1, that is, Prophecies, Factions, Nightfall and Eye of the North. Good luck and have fun

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Posted by: TheOrlyFactor.8341

TheOrlyFactor.8341

It’s not really worth getting GW1 for that stuff. I made the same mistake and regretted it. GW1 is exactly the kind of game I despise playing, despite giving it a chance.

Playing GW2 for the story is like expecting plot in a porno. You’ll be left disappointed.

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Posted by: Emmalouise.1763

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I’ve played GW2 since feb 2013, I was really gutted I missed out on GW1 back in the day but I would never want to belittle those deserving GWAAM titles from players by puting them on the gemstoree. I don’t think you could ever appreciate the amount of time and effort put into those titles.

I went back and did GW1 whilst I waited for HoT to be released. its hard work. I got 30 HoM points but only due to an old friend having a rare mini that sold for a lot of money, it helped fund some of my armor and weapon purchases.

Playing through the stories is really fun, even if you buy it to this it is well worth the money.

….but you need to let go of those titles and skins and even AP if your not willing to work for them.

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Posted by: Zohane.7208

Zohane.7208

I’ve been playing GW2 for 2 months now and just recently discovered about all the items one can get from HoM if they played GW1 in the past so my question is as a new GW2 player with no experience with GW1 at all should I buy GW1 just to farm those points?

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that I can only get GWAMM through playing GW1 and getting 50 points because I really want that title too. I wish ANET could give another option to be able to purchase those titles and skins from HoM for new players that never played GW1 in the past.

Not sure if this will matter to you or not, but GWAMM has nothing to do with HoM points.

Instead, you have to achieve 30 maxed in-game title tracks. This is enough of a daunting task since it usually involves doing every single mission in normal and hard mode, vaquishing every single zone, mapping the entire game to 100%, and a lot more.

50 HoM points give a completely different title.

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A bit off topic, but GW1 on mobile would be cool.

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Posted by: Almighty Pain.2910

Almighty Pain.2910

I’ve been playing GW2 for 2 months now and just recently discovered about all the items one can get from HoM if they played GW1 in the past so my question is as a new GW2 player with no experience with GW1 at all should I buy GW1 just to farm those points?

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that I can only get GWAMM through playing GW1 and getting 50 points because I really want that title too. I wish ANET could give another option to be able to purchase those titles and skins from HoM for new players that never played GW1 in the past.

Not sure if this will matter to you or not, but GWAMM has nothing to do with HoM points.

Instead, you have to achieve 30 maxed in-game title tracks. This is enough of a daunting task since it usually involves doing every single mission in normal and hard mode, vaquishing every single zone, mapping the entire game to 100%, and a lot more.

50 HoM points give a completely different title.

I see, I thought it was when a player reach 50 HoM points that they unlock GWAMM. I enjoy playing GW2 a lot that it only took me 1 week to level a necro to 80 and another week to finish world map completion and I did the same for my warrior so within 1 month I had two maxed out characters with 100% world map completion and fully equipped with exotics. It did not feel like a daunting task at all to me because I was enjoying throughout the experience. What you’re describing here sounds very similar to GW2 so maybe it would be a different experience for myself.

I imagine myself getting to 30 HoM points if that’s all I need to do, but my main concern is that I cannot guarantee myself to get to 50 since I will be required to interact with players to trade and who knows how the population is now. If it’s possible to achieve 50 HoM points and complete the 30 in-game titles by playing solo then I might purchase GW1 because at the very least I can guarantee myself that I can dedicate my time and effort to do it.

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Posted by: Ashantara.8731

Ashantara.8731

Not sure if this will matter to you or not, but GWAMM has nothing to do with HoM points.

Instead, you have to achieve 30 maxed in-game title tracks. This is enough of a daunting task since it usually involves doing every single mission in normal and hard mode, vaquishing every single zone, mapping the entire game to 100%, and a lot more.

50 HoM points give a completely different title.

I played GW from 2005 through 2010 and only reached 27/30 max titles. I am close to maxing three more, but I do not feel the desire to invest any more time and money into it.

At least, I received “Champion of the Gods” for maxing my HoM by 50 points.

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Zohane.7208

Not sure if this will matter to you or not, but GWAMM has nothing to do with HoM points.

Instead, you have to achieve 30 maxed in-game title tracks. This is enough of a daunting task since it usually involves doing every single mission in normal and hard mode, vaquishing every single zone, mapping the entire game to 100%, and a lot more.

50 HoM points give a completely different title.

I see, I thought it was when a player reach 50 HoM points that they unlock GWAMM. I enjoy playing GW2 a lot that it only took me 1 week to level a necro to 80 and another week to finish world map completion and I did the same for my warrior so within 1 month I had two maxed out characters with 100% world map completion and fully equipped with exotics. It did not feel like a daunting task at all to me because I was enjoying throughout the experience. What you’re describing here sounds very similar to GW2 so maybe it would be a different experience for myself.

I imagine myself getting to 30 HoM points if that’s all I need to do, but my main concern is that I cannot guarantee myself to get to 50 since I will be required to interact with players to trade and who knows how the population is now. If it’s possible to achieve 50 HoM points and complete the 30 in-game titles by playing solo then I might purchase GW1 because at the very least I can guarantee myself that I can dedicate my time and effort to do it.

It’s not about the HoM points at all Almighty, it’s the in-game titles you need to max.
Have a look at https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Kind_of_a_Big_Deal for more information about what it takes to get to GWAMM. You will get several HoM points as well while working your GWAMM title.

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Ok I Did It.2854

If you do pick it up, there are still plenty of former GW1 players with a lot of mats and random gear that they will never use that they might give away, I log in every now and then and give away Elite tomes, the odd mini etc, im sure if you asked you would get a good bit of help from those who enjoyed GW1, HM Vanquishing was great fun.

Its been awhile since I did it, but im fairly certain that ( if its still needed ) getting the Faction for Kurzick and Luxon is still the worst, its 10million faction for each.

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Posted by: Silmar Alech.4305

Silmar Alech.4305

It’s definitely possible to get 50 points and GWAMM playing solo with a minimum amount of interaction with other players, but it is a stretch. GWAMM is only about titles, 50 points is more stuff. If you do it only for the GW2 achievements and without fun, it is pure grind and a waste of time.

If you love playing GW1 and have plenty of time, speaking of perhaps 1-2 years, then it is fun and you do it almost effortlessly.

The biggest problem is probably to get into the game and understand the game mechanics. If you don’t know how to build your hero team and if you are not able to give them skills and equipment, it’s going to be very hard. There are a few especially difficult missions and dungeons where you might despair – and get through effortlessly if you know how to do it. But there isn’t anybody left in the game who can explain it. Youtube can, but it’s tedious to find the right walkthrough.
Then there is money. You need lots of ingame gold. You need knowledge of the best ingame money provider mechanics. If you know them, you don’t need to farm gold – only trophys and consumables for the consumable titles.
In essence, you need to gather the knowledge of how to achieve your goals with the minimum amount of time. How to do things “right”. You may be lucky and find out about all this via wiki and youtube, but it’s also possible that you get lost.

(written by someone who brought main and mule GW1 accounts to 50 points and made 5 or 6 characters with GWAMM within 5 years 2007-2012)

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Posted by: Ashantara.8731

Ashantara.8731

If you do pick it up, there are still plenty of former GW1 players with a lot of mats and random gear that they will never use that they might give away, I log in every now and then and give away Elite tomes, the odd mini etc, im sure if you asked you would get a good bit of help from those who enjoyed GW1, HM Vanquishing was great fun.

Thanks for the tip , but I did HM Vanquishing and 26 other difficult (but fun!) titles a long time ago. I left those out that I found annoying, because they were based on clicking, not actually playing the game and facing its challenges.

Its been awhile since I did it, but im fairly certain that ( if its still needed ) getting the Faction for Kurzick and Luxon is still the worst, its 10million faction for each.

Unfortunately, those two are closest to completion, alongside the Lucky/Unlucky gaming titles (forgot what they were called exactly). I could also use sweets and other consumables for titles I have not maxed.

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Posted by: jheryn.8390

jheryn.8390

Having played GW1 since the beginning, I can honestly say I would do it again if I were just starting now. Not just for the HoM rewards, but because the game is awesome. It is a completely different game than GW2.

I soloed it for the whole seven years until GW2 dropped. I have my GWAMM too.

Getting to 30 points and getting all of the HoM skins shouldn’t take horribly long. Getting to 50 will take a quite a bit longer. Titles are the only thing you get after 30, however. It sounds like you want your GWAMM too, however. It can be done solo. I did.

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

Having played GW1 since the beginning, I can honestly say I would do it again if I were just starting now. Not just for the HoM rewards, but because the game is awesome. It is a completely different game than GW2.

I soloed it for the whole seven years until GW2 dropped. I have my GWAMM too.

Getting to 30 points and getting all of the HoM skins shouldn’t take horribly long. Getting to 50 will take a quite a bit longer. Titles are the only thing you get after 30, however. It sounds like you want your GWAMM too, however. It can be done solo. I did.

No you didn’t.

Unless you are telling us you farmed all the mats for the armor sets and never used the traders, never bought consumable title points and so on. And then there are the mini, like you telling us you randomly got everyone you need through bday gifts? Never bought a hero armor from another player? Solo DoA to get a tormented weapon?

I mean ya it’s obviously mathematically possible but I find it unlikely your “solo” is applicable this guy’s scenario. Not unless we all login to our gw1 accounts and dump platinum, materials, minipets and consumables we have banked from years of play onto him, will this guy ever have a reasonable chance at 50 hom and gwamm in the next 1-2 years.

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Posted by: Zohane.7208

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Having played GW1 since the beginning, I can honestly say I would do it again if I were just starting now. Not just for the HoM rewards, but because the game is awesome. It is a completely different game than GW2.

I soloed it for the whole seven years until GW2 dropped. I have my GWAMM too.

Getting to 30 points and getting all of the HoM skins shouldn’t take horribly long. Getting to 50 will take a quite a bit longer. Titles are the only thing you get after 30, however. It sounds like you want your GWAMM too, however. It can be done solo. I did.

No you didn’t.

Unless you are telling us you farmed all the mats for the armor sets and never used the traders, never bought consumable title points and so on. And then there are the mini, like you telling us you randomly got everyone you need through bday gifts? Never bought a hero armor from another player? Solo DoA to get a tormented weapon?

I mean ya it’s obviously mathematically possible but I find it unlikely your “solo” is applicable this guy’s scenario. Not unless we all login to our gw1 accounts and dump platinum, materials, minipets and consumables we have banked from years of play onto him, will this guy ever have a reasonable chance at 50 hom and gwamm in the next 1-2 years.

The solo part he mentioned was GWAMM, and as we all know, GWAMM has nothing to do with DoA or tormented weapons… Getting GWAMM solo for an experienced GW1 player is in no way impossible. There are a couple of hard spots but they’re certainly doable…

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Posted by: Justine.6351

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Having played GW1 since the beginning, I can honestly say I would do it again if I were just starting now. Not just for the HoM rewards, but because the game is awesome. It is a completely different game than GW2.

I soloed it for the whole seven years until GW2 dropped. I have my GWAMM too.

Getting to 30 points and getting all of the HoM skins shouldn’t take horribly long. Getting to 50 will take a quite a bit longer. Titles are the only thing you get after 30, however. It sounds like you want your GWAMM too, however. It can be done solo. I did.

No you didn’t.

Unless you are telling us you farmed all the mats for the armor sets and never used the traders, never bought consumable title points and so on. And then there are the mini, like you telling us you randomly got everyone you need through bday gifts? Never bought a hero armor from another player? Solo DoA to get a tormented weapon?

I mean ya it’s obviously mathematically possible but I find it unlikely your “solo” is applicable this guy’s scenario. Not unless we all login to our gw1 accounts and dump platinum, materials, minipets and consumables we have banked from years of play onto him, will this guy ever have a reasonable chance at 50 hom and gwamm in the next 1-2 years.

The solo part he mentioned was GWAMM, and as we all know, GWAMM has nothing to do with DoA or tormented weapons… Getting GWAMM solo for an experienced GW1 player is in no way impossible. There are a couple of hard spots but they’re certainly doable…

Right because he specifically separated his play time for 7 years to keep his gwamm solo. Not that it matters because farming 30k consumable points and/or 10mil kurzick/luxon points still ain’t happening in a reasonable amount of time. Certainly not for someone picking up the game today.

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Posted by: jheryn.8390

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Having played GW1 since the beginning, I can honestly say I would do it again if I were just starting now. Not just for the HoM rewards, but because the game is awesome. It is a completely different game than GW2.

I soloed it for the whole seven years until GW2 dropped. I have my GWAMM too.

Getting to 30 points and getting all of the HoM skins shouldn’t take horribly long. Getting to 50 will take a quite a bit longer. Titles are the only thing you get after 30, however. It sounds like you want your GWAMM too, however. It can be done solo. I did.

No you didn’t.

Unless you are telling us you farmed all the mats for the armor sets and never used the traders, never bought consumable title points and so on. And then there are the mini, like you telling us you randomly got everyone you need through bday gifts? Never bought a hero armor from another player? Solo DoA to get a tormented weapon?

I mean ya it’s obviously mathematically possible but I find it unlikely your “solo” is applicable this guy’s scenario. Not unless we all login to our gw1 accounts and dump platinum, materials, minipets and consumables we have banked from years of play onto him, will this guy ever have a reasonable chance at 50 hom and gwamm in the next 1-2 years.

The solo part he mentioned was GWAMM, and as we all know, GWAMM has nothing to do with DoA or tormented weapons… Getting GWAMM solo for an experienced GW1 player is in no way impossible. There are a couple of hard spots but they’re certainly doable…

Right because he specifically separated his play time for 7 years to keep his gwamm solo. Not that it matters because farming 30k consumable points and/or 10mil kurzick/luxon points still ain’t happening in a reasonable amount of time. Certainly not for someone picking up the game today.

Yes I did do it on my own. I was never in a guild until the last three months of GW1. I already had 46 points in HoM.

Over the last five years I have been playing GW1 to get those last four points. Even the obsidian to build my armor I did solo. So yes it most certainly can be done.

If you actually paid attention to what I originally wrote, you would see that I told the OP he/she could easily get the 30 points for all the HoM freebies. Then I said it would take a lot longer to get the last 20. So I did not tell him he could get 50 in any reasonable time.

As for the mini’s I did trade with other players. I also did so with a couple of weapons. I did both of those a couple of years after GW2 dropped. There are still plenty of players you can do that with. But they were the last four or five HoM points I needed.

Again, the first 30 points are more than easy to solo.

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Posted by: Almighty Pain.2910

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I do enjoy the story and the lore of GW2 so I guess I might get GW1 later on to learn the roots of the game and settle for 30 HoM points. I just purchased HoT and PoF recently so I still have to catch up to the current storyline of GW2 then I may consider picking up GW1 afterwards.

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Posted by: cafard.8953

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For an idea of the time, it took me a month and a half to get to 30 HoM, with a tiny headstart (had played before, not massively but enough to know some stuff), but that was still starting with a freshly created character. If you’re a fast learner and use guides, I’d say it’ll probably take you two months.

Going for 50 points will be more tedious though. It will involve either a lot of effort soloing difficult dungeons or getting up to speed with the meta and grouping up. You’ll also probably need to do some platinum grinding and purchasing from other players in Kamadan.

Finally, GWAMM is even more work than the 50 HoM points. It’s the crowning achievement and will involve a lot of grinding to max out plenty of titles (eating 432858234 sweets, drinking 9623412 beverages, winning 86234123 luck-based minigames, losing 9643281 luck-based minigames, etc).

My recommendation would be to give it a go. GW1 is a very good game, heroes make it fully playable solo, and you’ll learn a lot about the world, gaining a new appreciation for lots of characters and places. It also has a ludicrous amount of contents between the three campaigns, the Eye of the North, all the post EotN content leading to GW2, the historical bonus missions if you pick them up, the PvP if you make some friends and play at the same time to enjoy the many formats…

After a few areas, you should get used to the graphics and controls. In fact, the graphics, as simple as they are by today’s standards, still have a majesty that GW2 hasn’t managed in some regards: the scale of landscapes and places feels much greater. Kaineng City makes Divinity’s Reach look like a miniature diorama. If you find you like the gameplay, the route to 30 HoM will be enjoyable. 50 is probably beyond your commitment, and I wouldn’t dream too much of GWAMM. It’s very very unlikely you’ll get there, but if you fall in love with the game, who knows…

If you’re interested in my road to 30 points, I summarised it there:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GuildWars/comments/39wd5i/after_action_report_a_month_and_a_halfs_journey/

tl;dr: 30 HoM is very doable in a couple month. Anything more is unlikely unless you’re really hardcore.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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Having played GW1 since the beginning, I can honestly say I would do it again if I were just starting now. Not just for the HoM rewards, but because the game is awesome. It is a completely different game than GW2.

I soloed it for the whole seven years until GW2 dropped. I have my GWAMM too.

Getting to 30 points and getting all of the HoM skins shouldn’t take horribly long. Getting to 50 will take a quite a bit longer. Titles are the only thing you get after 30, however. It sounds like you want your GWAMM too, however. It can be done solo. I did.

No you didn’t.

Unless you are telling us you farmed all the mats for the armor sets and never used the traders, never bought consumable title points and so on. And then there are the mini, like you telling us you randomly got everyone you need through bday gifts? Never bought a hero armor from another player? Solo DoA to get a tormented weapon?

I mean ya it’s obviously mathematically possible but I find it unlikely your “solo” is applicable this guy’s scenario. Not unless we all login to our gw1 accounts and dump platinum, materials, minipets and consumables we have banked from years of play onto him, will this guy ever have a reasonable chance at 50 hom and gwamm in the next 1-2 years.

The solo part he mentioned was GWAMM, and as we all know, GWAMM has nothing to do with DoA or tormented weapons… Getting GWAMM solo for an experienced GW1 player is in no way impossible. There are a couple of hard spots but they’re certainly doable…

Right because he specifically separated his play time for 7 years to keep his gwamm solo. Not that it matters because farming 30k consumable points and/or 10mil kurzick/luxon points still ain’t happening in a reasonable amount of time. Certainly not for someone picking up the game today.

Faction points will take awhile but not the consumables. The skele farm will get you what you need during Halloween.

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You guys really have no idea…

GW1 is still super active, there are lots of alliances with 200+ players that play daily.

Trade in Kamadan will get you any mini or weapon you need. People still do GWAMM regularly if only to sell their account for 300+ USD.

There are even online shops that specialize in leveling up your account up to 50/50 HoM and GWAMM from scratch.

GW1 players for the most part did not move over to GW2 or did not stay long after they did due to significantly different game play, the proportion of cross-over has been low overall. GW1 is still super active with a huge community of older players for which the less strategic aspect of GW2 is less appealing. GW2 really appeals to younger players with a more action-oriented mind set.

The PvP portion is quieter as many players have maxed their titles there and there isn’t as much of an incentive to continue playing compared to PvE where the content is not repetitive.

It is best to do GWAMM at least with one friend, as the time investment is huge and it is nice to be able to play with someone, but using 6 heroes +2 humans is often easier than a team full of humans, as heroes act in predictable ways and excel at shutting down enemies with perfect reaction times. You just need to use a clever set up for their skills.

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