Guild Wars 2

so this is my question.

in HoT will a Tome of knowledge that grants an instant level give u a mastery point ? and if so is it worth choosing tomes of knowledge over laurels from the 28 day chest ?

or will it just grant you a level and no mastery point to avoid stock piling of tomes to greatly and unfairly speed up a mastery track.

Won’t know until they tell us or release the exp and we find out ourselves. I am curious as well but it is not going to be answered by forum users.

I’d suggest getting laurels instead since those are time gated, whereas tomes aren’t (sitting on 300 from PvP rewards).

Mastery points are not granted by exp, only training a mastery track is. Mastery points are from adventures and some specific content.

Lazaar.9123:

Mastery points are not granted by exp, only training a mastery track is. Mastery points are from adventures and some specific content.

I’m not 100% sure this is true. We just don’t know yet. I believe it’s been implied that experience will give you mastery points…but I don’t think level up scrolls will do that. That would be nuts.

Vayne.8563:

Lazaar.9123:

Mastery points are not granted by exp, only training a mastery track is. Mastery points are from adventures and some specific content.

I’m not 100% sure this is true. We just don’t know yet. I believe it’s been implied that experience will give you mastery points…but I don’t think level up scrolls will do that. That would be nuts.

It’s in the blog post that explains the mastery system.

Lazaar.9123:

Mastery points are not granted by exp, only training a mastery track is. Mastery points are from adventures and some specific content.

wrong u also gain mastery points for a track by gaining a lvl. this then replaces a skill point you would of earnt from lvling up

players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries. This means characters that have reached level 80 will no longer gain skill points through leveling. Skill points will be added as rewards across high-level content to offset this change.

source https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/reimagining-progression-the-mastery-system/ posted main page FEB 5th

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Lazaar.9123:

Vayne.8563:

Lazaar.9123:

Mastery points are not granted by exp, only training a mastery track is. Mastery points are from adventures and some specific content.

I’m not 100% sure this is true. We just don’t know yet. I believe it’s been implied that experience will give you mastery points…but I don’t think level up scrolls will do that. That would be nuts.

It’s in the blog post that explains the mastery system.

I’ve read a lot of stuff besides that blog post including interviews. It would be hard to find the specific one, but I was definitely left with the impression that after you hit 80 you’d be gaining mastery points instead of skill points.

krixis.9538:

Lazaar.9123:

Mastery points are not granted by exp, only training a mastery track is. Mastery points are from adventures and some specific content.

wrong u also gain mastery points for a track by gaining a lvl. this then replaces a skill point you would of earnt from lvling up

players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries. This means characters that have reached level 80 will no longer gain skill points through leveling. Skill points will be added as rewards across high-level content to offset this change.

source https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/reimagining-progression-the-mastery-system/ posted main page FEB 5th

the ability to read all info before posting is a very valuable skill not just on the forums but in life to !!!!!

“To see all your Mastery tracks, spend Mastery points, and change which Mastery you are currently training, click the Mastery training bar to bring up the Mastery tray. Because the Mastery training bar completely replaces the experience bar, players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries.”

Maybe you should read it. This is also talked about in the recent POI streams.

Lazaar.9123:

krixis.9538:

Lazaar.9123:

Mastery points are not granted by exp, only training a mastery track is. Mastery points are from adventures and some specific content.

wrong u also gain mastery points for a track by gaining a lvl. this then replaces a skill point you would of earnt from lvling up

players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries. This means characters that have reached level 80 will no longer gain skill points through leveling. Skill points will be added as rewards across high-level content to offset this change.

source https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/reimagining-progression-the-mastery-system/ posted main page FEB 5th

the ability to read all info before posting is a very valuable skill not just on the forums but in life to !!!!!

“To see all your Mastery tracks, spend Mastery points, and change which Mastery you are currently training, click the Mastery training bar to bring up the Mastery tray. Because the Mastery training bar completely replaces the experience bar, players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries.”

Maybe you should read it. This is also talked about in the recent POI streams.

I did read it. Not sure where that says you don’t get experience points after 80. It says the bar changes not how you progress the bar. I’m not convinced by this.

“To train a specific Mastery track, you must first unlock it by spending Mastery points. Mastery points are awarded for completing various pieces of game content. Things like completing a chapter in your personal story, completing certain achievements, reaching hard-to-find locations, overcoming challenging encounters, excelling at adventures found within the Heart of Maguuma, or earning 100% completion for a map will award Mastery points. "

Reading comprehension is great.

Lazaar.9123:

krixis.9538:

Lazaar.9123:

Mastery points are not granted by exp, only training a mastery track is. Mastery points are from adventures and some specific content.

wrong u also gain mastery points for a track by gaining a lvl. this then replaces a skill point you would of earnt from lvling up

players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries. This means characters that have reached level 80 will no longer gain skill points through leveling. Skill points will be added as rewards across high-level content to offset this change.

source https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/reimagining-progression-the-mastery-system/ posted main page FEB 5th

the ability to read all info before posting is a very valuable skill not just on the forums but in life to !!!!!

“To see all your Mastery tracks, spend Mastery points, and change which Mastery you are currently training, click the Mastery training bar to bring up the Mastery tray. Because the Mastery training bar completely replaces the experience bar, players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries.”

Maybe you should read it. This is also talked about in the recent POI streams.

And the rest of that paragraph -

“Because the Mastery training bar completely replaces the experience bar, players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries. This means characters that have reached level 80 will no longer gain skill points through leveling. Skill points will be added as rewards across high-level content to offset this change.

To me that implies that as you get exp and level up you’ll level up your current mastery track thingy.

I must admit the currencies can be quite overwhelming and confusing when you come back to the game after a long while

I’m thinking you unlock the tracks by doing certain in game things but then you progress the tracks with experience.

It really needs to be clarified.

Edit: Like right now doing a dungeon story mode will unlock that reward track in SPvP, but it doesn’t progress the track. You have to play PvP to push the track which is like gaining PvP experience.

Like I said it isn’t going to be answered by forum users.

Yargesh.4965:

Like I said it isn’t going to be answered by forum users.

Well, if you need to fill the tracks to get mastery points, I’m relatively sure tomes of knowledge won’t do it, because so many people have a ton of them. Most people who PvP regularly have them. It would make progression for those people almost meaningless, which defeats the stated purpose of the expansion.

All of the info clearly explains that masteries will progress with specific activities and will completely replace experience for level 80 characters.

If I were to wager a guess, Tomes of Knowledge (and other scrolls) will have absolutely zero effect on masteries since that would make the whole system pointless.

AdaephonDelat.3890:

Lazaar.9123:

krixis.9538:

Lazaar.9123:

Mastery points are not granted by exp, only training a mastery track is. Mastery points are from adventures and some specific content.

wrong u also gain mastery points for a track by gaining a lvl. this then replaces a skill point you would of earnt from lvling up

players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries. This means characters that have reached level 80 will no longer gain skill points through leveling. Skill points will be added as rewards across high-level content to offset this change.

source https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/reimagining-progression-the-mastery-system/ posted main page FEB 5th

the ability to read all info before posting is a very valuable skill not just on the forums but in life to !!!!!

“To see all your Mastery tracks, spend Mastery points, and change which Mastery you are currently training, click the Mastery training bar to bring up the Mastery tray. Because the Mastery training bar completely replaces the experience bar, players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries.”

Maybe you should read it. This is also talked about in the recent POI streams.

And the rest of that paragraph -

“Because the Mastery training bar completely replaces the experience bar, players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries. This means characters that have reached level 80 will no longer gain skill points through leveling. Skill points will be added as rewards across high-level content to offset this change.

To me that implies that as you get exp and level up you’ll level up your current mastery track thingy.

It’s also possible that a level 80 will no longer receive experience (because experience is tied to leveling and getting skill points, which level 80s will no longer do) and that the Mastery bar is only progressed by doing activities that give mastery points.

Astral Projections.7320:

AdaephonDelat.3890:

Lazaar.9123:

krixis.9538:

Lazaar.9123:

Mastery points are not granted by exp, only training a mastery track is. Mastery points are from adventures and some specific content.

wrong u also gain mastery points for a track by gaining a lvl. this then replaces a skill point you would of earnt from lvling up

players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries. This means characters that have reached level 80 will no longer gain skill points through leveling. Skill points will be added as rewards across high-level content to offset this change.

source https://www.guildwars2.com/en-gb/news/reimagining-progression-the-mastery-system/ posted main page FEB 5th

the ability to read all info before posting is a very valuable skill not just on the forums but in life to !!!!!

“To see all your Mastery tracks, spend Mastery points, and change which Mastery you are currently training, click the Mastery training bar to bring up the Mastery tray. Because the Mastery training bar completely replaces the experience bar, players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries.”

Maybe you should read it. This is also talked about in the recent POI streams.

And the rest of that paragraph -

“Because the Mastery training bar completely replaces the experience bar, players who’ve reached level 80 will no longer gain levels but will instead train Masteries. This means characters that have reached level 80 will no longer gain skill points through leveling. Skill points will be added as rewards across high-level content to offset this change.

To me that implies that as you get exp and level up you’ll level up your current mastery track thingy.

It’s also possible that a level 80 will no longer receive experience (because experience is tied to leveling and getting skill points, which level 80s will no longer do) and that the Mastery bar is only progressed by doing activities that give mastery points.

Yup also very possible. Guess we’ll find out at some point :-P

The tomes give experience. My guess is if you are level 80 in HoT and use the tome of knowledge, nothing will happen.