Guild Wars 2

Poof…

Sigh…

You know what? Screw it. This Soviet Russia is getting on my nerve and it starts to seem I soon won’t be able to keep this conversation alive even if I want to (which I kinda… not so much anymore). This thread isn’t a good place for me to continue, so I’m about to wrap it up here. Now you can concider yourself victorious from your perspective, both of you, because I’m removing myself and ceasing my contact with this thread.

The objective criteria is quality.

There are objective criteria for quality silicon chips; there aren’t any for art. You can get closer with food: there are ways to measure how the food is prepared, whether it is nutritious. But in terms for flavor, not so much — some people like circus peanuts; most can’t stand them.

I’m mostly unsure why you want to insist that there’s some higher principle at stake here. Surely it’s sufficient to say you don’t like how a character is written, how the actor performs the role, how the character affects the story.

The objective criteria is not putting enough (if any) effort/talent/soul and simply producing medoicre quality auto-tuned content. The objective criteria is quality. If you’re not doing it good enough, then it’s quite obviously not done good enough.

Again, you are missing the point. Quality is also subjective not objective. What is quality to one person would be garbage to another. The only time quality is substantive is when a set criteria is established. Like quality of diamonds, water, coins, etc. Quality of art is and always will be subjective.

You only get to decide for you if something or someone is “not doing it good enough”. You don’t get to decide that for me. I just believe that you cannot grasp the difference between subjective and objective.

Objective = Set. Proven. Quantifiable.
Subjective = Up for interpretation. Opinion. Not able to be proven.