Guild Wars 2

With Colin’s rather vague announcement in the now-closed, 80+ page anti-Trait Unlock thread about changes to Trait Unlocks vis-a-vis the new Masteries system…I wonder if that means we shouldn’t, at all, spend Gold and Skill Points to unlock traits for any of our alts?

I have a newly-minted level 80 thief with about 10 traits unlocked…all through EOTM or some minor, early level PVE content. I was about to spend gold and SP to get a few more traits, but decided to revisit the forums to see if there had been any official announcement on cleaning this crap up.

Dulfy led me to a 3 month old, seemingly off-hand comment from Colin about a revamp in which he writes: “In doing so: we’re going to be removing the current trait unlocking system currently on live and replacing it with a more simplified system that supports where skills-traits-specializations are going in the future.”

So, “simplified” is incredibly vague. Simplified does not imply “less annoying” (I do NOT want to do zone completion for every character I create – that kind of unlock is simple AND annoying).

Have I missed a post since that last one 3 months ago? Is there more info on how we will unlock traits at all? I really want to play/tweak my thief but am loathe to spend the gold and SPs on doing so if it will be a waste.

When it comes out they haven’t said but the way you will unlock traits is thru hero points. Just for being lvl 80 you will get 400 points. You will need 465 for just the core traits we currently have. The additional 65 will come from the current skill point challenges we have in game.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/specializations-part-one-a-primer/

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/specializations-part-two-reward-tracks-and-elite-specializations/

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So that means unlocks are automatic per level, you just spend hero points that you acquire through hero challenges…which I knew. What they don’t say is what will be “hero challenges”.

They do say “Rather than completing specific content for specific unlocks, everything will be unlocked by spending Hero Points on these new reward tracks.”.

But these “hero challenges” could be: 100% map completion, kill a specific mob (that requires a zerg to accomplish), etc. So, these hero challenges could be as annoying as the current Trait unlock. In fact, they could be the exact same events we need to do now, they just won’t be tied to specific traits. I guess that is, technically, a change.

No. The Hero Challenges are the current Skill Challenges.

lordkrall.7241:

No. The Hero Challenges are the current Skill Challenges.

Really? I didn’t think there were 400+ skill challenges in the game. They must be adding some?

You get 400 points by simply leveling up to lvl 80.
Then you need 65 ADDITIONAL points in order to unlock everything in the Core lines. Those additional 65 will be gotten by Hero/Skill Challenges.

You earn the 400 points just thru leveling then you have to go out and complete 65 hero challenges(the current skill challenges)

Ah. So simply leveling will give you the 400 points. Isn’t that exactly the process we had before (different only in the number of points)? I love the fact that Anet is going back to the old way of unlocking traits without actually acknowledging that they are doing so. They’re just folding it into the whole HoT changes.

The difference is that you can now chose exactly what to unlock and in which order, while before you had no real choice when it came to that. It is also worth pointing out that this is coming before HoT, rather than as a part of HoT itself.

It will be slitly different because you can only spend points in three different lines at one time.