So I made a new character to experience leveling under the new system when the feature patch released. So far things are going ok, though I’ve not hit level 30 yet to unlock traits.
One thing I just ran into while exploring Kessex Hills (levels 15-25) confuses me as an implementation decision regarding unlocking specific traits.
I entered Goff’s Bandits to get the POI and released the caged trolls to get the chest in the cell. Upon beating the trolls I received an award stating I had unlocked a trait called “Pet’s Prowess” for my sub-30 ranger. It offered me an accept button which would take me directly to my traits panel to view the newly unlocked trait…but I’m not level 30 yet.
Not only can I not even look at the trait panel to see what will be available to me once I hit level 30, I can unlock a trait while I’m under level 30…in a 15-25 zone? This makes no sense.
So, as a new player:
It’s quite a silly design.
1. Why is a player able to unlock a locked trait in a zone designated for characters below level 30 who will not even have traits unlocked and viewable yet?
2. Why can we still not even see what traits are until we are level 30 and open it up? Can we please have the trait area viewable prior to level 30 so a new player can familiarize themselves with traits and what will be available to them after they hit level 30?
3. Traits should not be available to be unlocked by completing content in zones that are sub-30 due to traits not even being viewable and unlocked until you’ve hit level 30.
(edited by StinVec.3621)
It’s quite a silly design.
1. Why is a player able to unlock a locked trait in a zone designated for characters below level 30 who will not even have traits unlocked and viewable yet?2. Why can we still not even see what traits are until we are level 30 and open it up? Can we please have the trait area viewable prior to level 30 so a new player can familiarize themselves with traits and what will be available to them after they hit level 30?
3. Traits should not be available to be unlocked by completing content in zones that are sub-30 due to traits not even being viewable and unlocked until you’ve hit level 30.
I think it’s good design, and the opposite is far worse.
The idea of the new trait system is to get your traits unlocked by doing content, that content should be at our the same level as you get the traits, for example level 30 content for adept traits. The only “bad” thing is that you got a notification to open your trait screen, unlocking traits by doing lower level content is meant to lead players to lower level zones too, I don’t think that’s “bad” design in any way.
What’s terrible is to require a 100% completion of Frostgorge to get an Adept trait… That’s silly. Requiring higher level content to get a trait you should have available at level 30 is far worse than unlocking some traits without access to the trait screen.
For the first batch of traits, you’ve got a LOT of traits on each character. To keep it from being “do this event to unlock 5 different traits”, it makes sense that they’d scatter some of them into lower level areas. Having it try to open up a screen you can’t access is stupid, but it’s good to have some unlocked and ready to go before you’ll ever need them.
What’s terrible is to require a 100% completion of Frostgorge to get an Adept trait… That’s silly.
Oh dear god, please tell me they did not actually do that.
It’s quite a silly design.
1. Why is a player able to unlock a locked trait in a zone designated for characters below level 30 who will not even have traits unlocked and viewable yet?2. Why can we still not even see what traits are until we are level 30 and open it up? Can we please have the trait area viewable prior to level 30 so a new player can familiarize themselves with traits and what will be available to them after they hit level 30?
3. Traits should not be available to be unlocked by completing content in zones that are sub-30 due to traits not even being viewable and unlocked until you’ve hit level 30.
I think it’s good design, and the opposite is far worse.
The idea of the new trait system is to get your traits unlocked by doing content, that content should be at our the same level as you get the traits, for example level 30 content for adept traits. The only “bad” thing is that you got a notification to open your trait screen, unlocking traits by doing lower level content is meant to lead players to lower level zones too, I don’t think that’s “bad” design in any way.
What’s terrible is to require a 100% completion of Frostgorge to get an Adept trait… That’s silly. Requiring higher level content to get a trait you should have available at level 30 is far worse than unlocking some traits without access to the trait screen.
I’m discussing how this affects new players for characters below level 30 who do not have traits unlocked or even know what they are yet…not established characters above level 30 who know what traits are and already have them unlocked due to being experienced players who are now returning to lower level zones to unlock specific traits. I understand your comment and agree for the most part, but it is not related to the subject I am discussing. Thank you for your input though.
For the first batch of traits, you’ve got a LOT of traits on each character. To keep it from being “do this event to unlock 5 different traits”, it makes sense that they’d scatter some of them into lower level areas. Having it try to open up a screen you can’t access is stupid, but it’s good to have some unlocked and ready to go before you’ll ever need them.
What’s terrible is to require a 100% completion of Frostgorge to get an Adept trait… That’s silly.
Oh dear god, please tell me they did not actually do that.
Ah, you haven’t looked at the list of trait unlocks yet? Yes, they did in fact do that.
It’s quite a silly design.
1. Why is a player able to unlock a locked trait in a zone designated for characters below level 30 who will not even have traits unlocked and viewable yet?2. Why can we still not even see what traits are until we are level 30 and open it up? Can we please have the trait area viewable prior to level 30 so a new player can familiarize themselves with traits and what will be available to them after they hit level 30?
3. Traits should not be available to be unlocked by completing content in zones that are sub-30 due to traits not even being viewable and unlocked until you’ve hit level 30.
I think it’s good design, and the opposite is far worse.
The idea of the new trait system is to get your traits unlocked by doing content, that content should be at our the same level as you get the traits, for example level 30 content for adept traits. The only “bad” thing is that you got a notification to open your trait screen, unlocking traits by doing lower level content is meant to lead players to lower level zones too, I don’t think that’s “bad” design in any way.
What’s terrible is to require a 100% completion of Frostgorge to get an Adept trait… That’s silly. Requiring higher level content to get a trait you should have available at level 30 is far worse than unlocking some traits without access to the trait screen.
I’m discussing how this affects new players for characters below level 30 who do not have traits unlocked or even know what they are yet…not established characters above level 30 who know what traits are and already have them unlocked due to being experienced players who are now returning to lower level zones to unlock specific traits. I understand your comment and agree for the most part, but it is not related to the subject I am discussing. Thank you for your input though.
Based on some feedback from the Marionette event, when the dev team was saying that there was a significant enough percentage of the player population that had never even assigned their traits in the first place that they felt they needed to take action, maybe this is a way to give players a small introduction to what they might possibly get when traits become important? A sort of “oooo, secret present is waiting! PLAY MOAR!”
What’s terrible is to require a 100% completion of Frostgorge to get an Adept trait… That’s silly. Requiring higher level content to get a trait you should have available at level 30 is far worse than unlocking some traits without access to the trait screen.
Completing a lvl70-80 zone for an Adept trait ?!
I am speachless….
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