Guild Wars 2

It’s been said that in the future, you can modify the stats of your legendary out of combat to have the type you want (zerker/valk/etc). It has never been made clear whether or not, if you buy a legendary now and transmute it so it’s not using the mostly useless stats they have by default, that you will have this benefit in the future.

This is the main reason I have no interest in obtaining a legendary at the moment. It won’t be transmuted until I would know for sure, and an item taking that much time investment to sit in my bank for an unknown number of months is not worth it, especially given the potential changes to precursors.

Hopefully someone from ArenaNet can take the time to comment.

Considering the cost, time investment and potential impact you’d imagine this would be more of an issue and something worth making an official comment on?

There was a data mine that looked like it dug up something that split transmuted items so you can get your legendary weapons back. I’ve lost a lot of faith in ANet but seeing as this is more of a PvE thing I doubt you guys have much to worry over. They take care of you guys.

Interesting, but not quite conclusive enough to risk transmuting a legendary.

The question has been asked many many times and no one from Anet has made an official statement. No one from Anet will make an official statement until they are ready.

As it happens, expressing a desire to know something in large enough numbers can often speed up the process of getting a reply. There is no harm in asking, and certainly no harm in more than one person asking something that fundamental. Imagine the outcry if it turns out that transmuted legendaries are effectively lost outside of their skin?

My legendary’s been transmuted many, many times. Unless the un-t-stones can de-transmute items again and again, I think I’m screwed :/

I would not let that stand if I were in your shoes. They are monumentally difficult to acquire no matter how you look at it (yes, you can buy them with cash→gems→gold, but at their current prices, however you acquired those funds to spend on them required effort as well). To have a new feature announced and not take into account transmuted legendaries… Surely they won’t do that. I just can’t believe they wouldn’t have some solution, but until they say otherwise, I would never transmute another legendary item.

There should be a RESPONSE to this, to set people’s mind at ease, one way or the other.

Unleashed.6195:

Considering the cost, time investment and potential impact you’d imagine this would be more of an issue and something worth making an official comment on?

You’d imagine that, but then…

Unleashed.6195:

As it happens, expressing a desire to know something in large enough numbers can often speed up the process of getting a reply. There is no harm in asking, and certainly no harm in more than one person asking something that fundamental. Imagine the outcry if it turns out that transmuted legendaries are effectively lost outside of their skin?

It’s the major issue with updating Legendaries, and probably the reason why they will implement the “changing stats” ability, to keep it from being a problem in the future. But imagine the outcry if they promise that trans-legendaries will be upgraded and they aren’t because of a bug. Even if only a small % of trans-legendaries are affected, it looks bad and causes a kittenstorm by itself.

They’ve learned the hard way about watching what they say to people here. Look at the “manifesto” thread, a few simple statements like “everything you love about GW,” “play the way you want to,” and “we don’t make grindy games” and so on are still being thrown back at them after several years.

So, no, I don’t expect there will be an official statement until all their ducks are in a row. The consequences of saying something and being wrong are too great, and the fanatics who post here are too unforgiving and too quick to make assumptions or misrepresent their statements to make an argument.

They should get their ducks in a row. Players right now may be just blindly ruining what represent at minimum weeks worth of time investment or significant financial investment. The question of “Is there data saved that represents the chain of transmutation for an item?” is one that can be answered within days, not weeks. It’s either yes, we know what you transmuted every time you have, or no, we do not. If they don’t know what you’ve transmuted each time, a permanent record, there is no way for them to give you legendary item benefits with a future patch. They just won’t have the data to do it -unless- they’re also willing to restore a legendary item to you based on your equipped inventory history. If they go that route, then you’re looking at people having 2 instances of that skin, only one of which has the stat change.

Either way, an official statement saying “Transmute to get the stats you need, your legendaries are safe no matter how we go about solving it” is something that could be done in a timely fashion if they felt the matter worthy of a reply and less than an hour of effort. An hour of their time against weeks of thousands of players…

Reddit’s dataminers found a string for an item which supposedly splits up transmuted items back in to their original forms, completely intact with stats, names, sigils etc. I presume you’ll need to get one of those when they come out.

A string description and supposed functionality doesn’t produce confidence necessary to feel the question is answered. It’s also not even certain the item will be released, whatever it does. The item also can’t address multiple transmutes (not that this will be as common as individual transmutes).

Unleashed.6195:

A string description and supposed functionality doesn’t produce confidence necessary to feel the question is answered. It’s also not even certain the item will be released, whatever it does. The item also can’t address multiple transmutes (not that this will be as common as individual transmutes).

Yes it will. That’s in the description of the item – if the item has been transmuted multiple times, it will take the item that provides the skin and the item that provides the stats. In that case, you will always get the Legendary back, because if you weren’t totally braindead, you kept the skin.

That depends on what a transmute -does-. If the data structure is always “Skin of A, Stats of B”, where A and B are immutable, then yes, if that item were released and if that item does what everyone supposes, you’d get your legendary back.

If however, A and B are not immutable, if Transmuting A and B creates a C (that knows of A and, and then you transmute again, it is possible that C transmuted with D becomes a merged C, with the properties of A as a skin and B as stats, creating an E that knows of C and D but not of A or B.

In that case, multiple transmutes would destroy the information necessary to get your legendary back, as what you’d get is an item that looked like A and had the stats of B, but was really a C.

Is that the likely method? Probably not… but unless you’re a developer at ArenaNet you can’t say for certain.

“Double-click to separate a transmuted item into the two base items it is made from. If the target item has been transmuted more than once, only the current appearance item and the current stat item will be recovered.” – Transmutation Splitter[s]

It must work if strings like this exist in the files at all.

I hadn’t seen that text. That’s excellent, it means you’ll only lose any middle of the road transmuted stat items and that’s absolutely fine. If we could get a confirmation those Splitters are coming, that would be all that is necessary to feel fine transmuting your legendary.

I have two legendary’s at the moment and they are both transmuted, i transmuted them without knowing anything about them being upgraded etc there were no warnings in game about this so it will be crazy if thy do not find a fix for it. Especially seeing as they are hard to acquire and tonnes of people have them. A simple solution to this would be to set up a vendor, whom trades in the Transmuted legendary’s for their upgraded counterparts? seeing as the skin is still their, and shows the purple text i don’t see how its not possible?

Auesis.7301:

Unleashed.6195:

A string description and supposed functionality doesn’t produce confidence necessary to feel the question is answered. It’s also not even certain the item will be released, whatever it does. The item also can’t address multiple transmutes (not that this will be as common as individual transmutes).

Yes it will. That’s in the description of the item – if the item has been transmuted multiple times, it will take the item that provides the skin and the item that provides the stats. In that case, you will always get the Legendary back, because if you weren’t totally braindead, you kept the skin.

DO NOT, I repeat: DO NOT listen to the people telling you this garbage. They have no idea what they’re talking about.

Items found while datamining aren’t necessarily going to make it into the game.

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1hy4wp/bank_tab_expansion_exclusive_hairstyles_basket/caz4snx

A transmutted item with a purple color text with exotic stats is no more a legendary item. It’s recognised to be stat wised to exotic but it’s a transmuted typed item. It’s no longer a legendary. Only the text “LEGENDARY” is truly one that will be upgraded in next updates. If you transmuted it then there is no hope to recover its original legendary status. You have the skin left only. Such transmuted item won’t meet the requirements to be upgraded in stats to be on par with the new ascended tier weapons.
BTW it s been MONTHS of warnings : telling people to NEVER EVER transmute a legendary with an exotic for its stats keeping legenday skin only. Unless Anet said you can and they NEVER said it was safe to transmute legendaries… Many people repeat why it shouldn’t be done but soon people will complain while they have been warned… Here is coming rivers of tears…

Skychok.7854:

Auesis.7301:

Unleashed.6195:

A string description and supposed functionality doesn’t produce confidence necessary to feel the question is answered. It’s also not even certain the item will be released, whatever it does. The item also can’t address multiple transmutes (not that this will be as common as individual transmutes).

Yes it will. That’s in the description of the item – if the item has been transmuted multiple times, it will take the item that provides the skin and the item that provides the stats. In that case, you will always get the Legendary back, because if you weren’t totally braindead, you kept the skin.

DO NOT, I repeat: DO NOT listen to the people telling you this garbage. They have no idea what they’re talking about.

Items found while datamining aren’t necessarily going to make it into the game.

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1hy4wp/bank_tab_expansion_exclusive_hairstyles_basket/caz4snx

I do believe they will implement this. Although this might not happen.

Skychok.7854:

Auesis.7301:

Unleashed.6195:

A string description and supposed functionality doesn’t produce confidence necessary to feel the question is answered. It’s also not even certain the item will be released, whatever it does. The item also can’t address multiple transmutes (not that this will be as common as individual transmutes).

Yes it will. That’s in the description of the item – if the item has been transmuted multiple times, it will take the item that provides the skin and the item that provides the stats. In that case, you will always get the Legendary back, because if you weren’t totally braindead, you kept the skin.

DO NOT, I repeat: DO NOT listen to the people telling you this garbage. They have no idea what they’re talking about.

Items found while datamining aren’t necessarily going to make it into the game.

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1hy4wp/bank_tab_expansion_exclusive_hairstyles_basket/caz4snx

And yet these strings exist. That means Arenanet have plans for transmuted Legendaries, one way or another.

Stop being a kitten.

I’ll leave this here…