As simple as that, really I suggest to add a consumable option to the Gift of Exploration. The character which consumes it has the entire map unlocked – waypoints, POIs, vistas, hearts and all – but can then no longer earn Map or World Completion achievements.
This would allow players to unlock the whole map for an alt without having to travel everywhere and do everything again. The cost: you obviously need to do World Completion the old fashioned way first, and you no longer have the Gift to make a Legendary.
I like the idea, but i think it would risk to decrease the number of players visual in the different maps. This might be the major problem. Maybe just give the WP, nothing else. That way people may still visit the maps.
And then in a year support can be flooded with “Hey, I used my gift of exploration but now I feel like I want a legendary and all of my toons are completed cause I used my gift of exploration.” right?
No, go do world completion. Its easy, its fast, Its rewarding, and I’ve done it 16 times and am planning to do it again. If you can’t be bothered to spend a day or two to do world completion then just spend a couple of hours grabbing the major waypoints.
When you do map completion, you get rewarded two gifts of exploration. If you use one gift of exploration, would you then get two?
Seriously, I think Map Completion should be done the way it is. No fast ways of doing it, because it’s not exploring otherwise. It’s actually a major part of PvE!
I like this idea, tbh. You get the two gifts, use one on a character to give them 100% exploration w/o the reward gifts, karma, xp, or map completion bonuses… I think it’s a fair trade-off. You still have the other one to craft a legendary, or repeat map completion on another toon.
But, what would you do about the hero challenges? I don’t think those should be lost…
Maybe instead the gift consumption just gives all waypoints, vistas, and POIs…? you still have to go do the hearts & hero challenges… allowing you to get the karma and map completion rewards. I think that’d be fair, too… so long as more gifts weren’t rewarded to the character who used the gift.
I was thinking the Gift would fully map the current map you’re on when you double click, rather than full map completion.
Really, I just want something to do with them lol, Ill be crafting a few things with them once my scribing is at 400, but I’ll still have a good number left lol.
Or maybe make it salvageable for some good stuff, ascended mats perhaps? like chance to get 5-10 of one type of ascended mat (like deldrimor steel or damask) – This idea in particular I think would promote more map comp for people:)
And then in a year support can be flooded with “Hey, I used my gift of exploration but now I feel like I want a legendary and all of my toons are completed cause I used my gift of exploration.” right?
No, go do world completion. Its easy, its fast, Its rewarding, and I’ve done it 16 times and am planning to do it again. If you can’t be bothered to spend a day or two to do world completion then just spend a couple of hours grabbing the major waypoints.
That seems like the biggest long term problem with the OPs suggestion. If all you are after are waypoint it takes even less time especially since some WP are pretty much useless like the one on Jinx Isles in Malchor’s Leap and the majority of WP in Straits of Devastation since they are contested most of the time.
Lol, I want a button to push so I win all of Pvp.
Want it? Earn it.
Please stop with the buy to win.
Did you stop and think before you posted ?
They’ve already earned it. You get 2 gifts of exploration for your first map completion. It’s an account bound item. All the OP is asking for is another use for the spare gifts so they can unlock parts of the world on alts.
Lol, I want a button to push so I win all of Pvp.
Want it? Earn it.
Please stop with the buy to win.
Did you stop and think before you posted ?
They’ve already earned it. You get 2 gifts of exploration for your first map completion. It’s an account bound item. All the OP is asking for is another use for the spare gifts so they can unlock parts of the world on alts.
Where is the buy to win with that ?
They want to do something once and get it done three times. So not buy to win but still incredibly silly.
OP’s suggestion is definitely going too far with allowing full map comp with 1 gift.
But as far as trying to find something more to do with these gifts? Worthwhile discussion imo, been something that has been posted many times in the past (I made a thread a long long time ago).
At the very least, Anet added a scribe recipe for them, a tad bit underwhelming, but still, better than nothing:) Can’t wait to get a couple globes for my guild hall library:)
I’d rather have map completion be account bound and be done with it. I have 4 80s, closely approaching 6. I want to be able to play whatever character I want and not be locked out of stuff I’ve already unlocked, there is no argument for not wanting it to be account bound. If you’re against it, then hell let’s separate WvW ranks agains and sPvP while we’re at it.
Lol, I want a button to push so I win all of Pvp.
Want it? Earn it.
Please stop with the buy to win.
Did you stop and think before you posted ?
They’ve already earned it. You get 2 gifts of exploration for your first map completion. It’s an account bound item. All the OP is asking for is another use for the spare gifts so they can unlock parts of the world on alts.
Where is the buy to win with that ?
They want to do something once and get it done three times. So not buy to win but still incredibly silly.
There’s nothing wrong with the idea as long as it has drastic trade-offs. Like not getting any of the map completion bonuses.
If you account bind map comp, you would get 2 gifts of exploration max, ever…….
And even if anet were to change it to more than 2 gifts, you’d still be limited, and never get the benefits of doing map comp
A lot of us do map comp because it gives us something to do, with some reward, but mostly, just something to do lol….
You don’t have to do map comp on all chars, if you don’t like it, just get the WP’s you need, and be done with it. You’re not “locked” out of anything really, dungeons can be reached with 10minutes of running straight from LA. World Bosses, same thing.
I guess you would have to do hearts on multiple chars if you need them for their merchant properties, if that actually matters…
What I would say it that if you could make a consumable from it, it should only unlock waypoints by world bosses and dungeon entrances. That’s it. You want everything else, work for it.
But then I don’t think this should be done at all. Want something, work for it.
I didn’t think I’d like the idea until I read the OP fully. A single use for one character consumable for the Gift of Exploration I think would work well. You’d have to choose between unlocking it all for a single alt, or using it for a legendary. You’d also need to do it fully again for it to unlock a second alt. I’m game, good idea!
It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
As simple as that, really I suggest to add a consumable option to the Gift of Exploration. The character which consumes it has the entire map unlocked – waypoints, POIs, vistas, hearts and all – but can then no longer earn Map or World Completion achievements.
This would allow players to unlock the whole map for an alt without having to travel everywhere and do everything again. The cost: you obviously need to do World Completion the old fashioned way first, and you no longer have the Gift to make a Legendary.
What do you think?
I like the casual nature of this game, that being said I think this suggestion is completely over the top.
I share the concern about seeing less people around as they World Complete their alts. Bringing players back to lower-level areas should be encouraged. But when I read the comments of people who have World Completed several times, I do wonder what they’re actually bringing to those areas. It seems like a lot of rush-rush, get it done fast.
As for it being easy mode and lazy – well, yes. Guilty as charged. I would like an easy way to get another character up to Level 80 with all the map unlocked so I can just jump in and play him/her. Mind you I don’t think it’s cheap. You’d be burning a Legendary crafting component that you can’t get back, and you’d already have done World Completion at least once. You’d also be missing out on a lot of Karma, gold, loot etc.
Hadn’t considered Hero Points by the way, very good point. I included unlocking hearts and vistas because I wanted to exclude their rewards from the process (no karma/XP for you!) but Hero Points are pretty crucial of course. Maybe leave those open? Or any other suggestions?
I’ve done it once with my main and close enough to easily get it with my other alts even tho I don’t need it. I personally don’t have an issue with getting map completion myself, if I need a waypoint I can run and get it easy enough.
My friend however is another matter. He doesn’t play that much and I cannot recall atm if he has full map completion on any character although I am certain he is close on at least one. Thing is though, he has three level 80s and only one was leveled the old fashioned way. The other two were craft leveled after using as many scrolls and tomes as he had.
When I told him about the level 80 booster he nearly wet himself with excitement.
Okay maybe a slight exaggeration, but he was quite happy about it. He decided to use it on an Ele that he had been neglecting because of a lack of time available to work on it. He still frequently talks to me about the whole map completion thing, wishing that there was a way for him to just buy it so he could easily join me wherever I go.
I’ll admit that sometimes, I think it would be nice if he could do that and then be able to join me doing some obscure event or farming run.
Lol, I want a button to push so I win all of Pvp.
Want it? Earn it.
Please stop with the buy to win.
Did you stop and think before you posted ?
They’ve already earned it. You get 2 gifts of exploration for your first map completion. It’s an account bound item. All the OP is asking for is another use for the spare gifts so they can unlock parts of the world on alts.
Where is the buy to win with that ?
It’s not buying to win. When you ask for so much for so little effort it’s begging to win.
The Gift of Exploration has one use. It is used in making a legendary weapon.
You get 2 for map completion. You get to make 2 Legendary weapons. That’s what you get.
The OP doesn’t want to use it as intended. They want the considerable task of map completion for an additional character, now for free.
You are correct though, it is begging, not buying. Just as kitten to me but not the same thing.
I like the idea, but i think it would risk to decrease the number of players visual in the different maps. This might be the major problem. Maybe just give the WP, nothing else. That way people may still visit the maps.
I have 16 of those Gifts of Exploration and with 2 more level 80s doing map completion soon it will be 20 Gifts. I have no interest in any of the series one Legendaries so the gifts sit unused on a mule. I’d love to have an alternate use for them.
Maybe double clicking on one gives you a level 80 with no map completion.
Edit: maybe taking a Gift to an NPC allows you to buy items, such as a level 80 upgrade with no waypoints or an item that gives one char all PvE waypoints. In both cases you cannot any map completion rewards on that char.
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
I suggest to add a consumable option to the Gift of Exploration. The character which consumes it has the entire map unlocked – waypoints, POIs, vistas, hearts and all – but can then no longer earn Map or World Completion achievements.