Guild Wars 2

Outside of dungeons, over the last week I must have killed over 30 veterans and champions. Most of them were with friends, some where with large groups of 10 or more. Ultimately, I think I got 1 trash item and 2 blues.

Fairly frequent I will kill a group of guys containing trash mobs and a veteran and everyone will have loot (mostly garbage) except the veteran.

What is the logic behind this, or am I just having a bad week? I would love to see a guaranteed drop on things that take me upwards of 10 minutes to kill. I don’t even care if it’s a white item. Just SOMETHING! Right now, I almost avoid those mobs unless it’s for an event where I know I will get XP.

In my experience, vets after this last patch aren’t any less likely to drop loot than normal mobs. They’re just not any more likely to drop, either.

Chris covered this in the AMA:

Vet and Champs should give good loot and there are a number of reports on perceived decrease in the frequency of drops. I will be discussing this in depth with the Production and Design team tomorrow and we will hopefully have more info soon.

Did 3 champion events today no drops, killed 5 vets same nothing but trophy crap.

I can’t remember any Champ/Vet dropping things for me that couldn’t have dropped from a regular mob. It’s either nothing at all, or white vendor thrash in most cases. Sometimes a blue. I honestly noticed no difference after the alleged change, for good or worse.

Kimyrielle.3826:

I can’t remember any Champ/Vet dropping things for me that couldn’t have dropped from a regular mob. It’s either nothing at all, or white vendor thrash in most cases. Sometimes a blue. I honestly noticed no difference after the alleged change, for good or worse.

My experience has been exactly the same. To the point that I just don’t bother to kill the vets that I run across unless they are between me and node I need to harvest. Much easier/faster to kill regular mobs and get the same (lack of) drops.

noother.2190:

Chris covered this in the AMA:

Vet and Champs should give good loot and there are a number of reports on perceived decrease in the frequency of drops. I will be discussing this in depth with the Production and Design team tomorrow and we will hopefully have more info soon.

Thanks for this… I hope there will be more information soon because this is pretty serious for me. It really seems to feel bugged.

Weird, they’ve been dropping things just fine for me. Which regions are you guys killing them at ingame?

Same. Drops are typically blue or nothing. They are a waste of time compared to killing normal mobs as they take longer and give nothing better in return

It would be more inviting if Champs always have a drop and a Vet say 50-50. Why not? I’m not asking for tons of quality loot, just a drop based on whatever %’s of quality goods exist today. Right now I see a champ, if it would be a repeat fight, I just keep moving along, not worth it.

Right now I rarely ever get a drop from a Champ or Vet.

noother.2190:

Chris covered this in the AMA:

Vet and Champs should give good loot and there are a number of reports on perceived decrease in the frequency of drops. I will be discussing this in depth with the Production and Design team tomorrow and we will hopefully have more info soon.

Sbeen a week now, two patches, no news on what they found from their investigation.

Oh and it’s definitely NOT perceived It’s now happening to so many people that the thread for it that’s coming up on being three weeks old has almost reached 600 posts.

tigirius.9014:

noother.2190:

Chris covered this in the AMA:

Vet and Champs should give good loot and there are a number of reports on perceived decrease in the frequency of drops. I will be discussing this in depth with the Production and Design team tomorrow and we will hopefully have more info soon.

Sbeen a week now, two patches, no news on what they found from their investigation.

Oh and it’s definitely NOT perceived It’s now happening to so many people that the thread for it that’s coming up on being three weeks old has almost reached 600 posts.

I was only quoting what Chris said during the AMA. Pretty sure they are aware that it happens to everyone.

Who knows where this falls on their priority list, though. Or it may have been fixed but they aren’t rolling it out until a larger update (i.e Wintersday).

Haven’t seen a vet or a champ drop anything recently.. You do get to the point of thinking whats the point. Sure its fun but fun soon dies when there’s no reward EVER.

these guys are a waste of time unless they are part of a DE with a payout or chest. I do a lot of events in Orr with 2 80s – often you get a white or a blue if you get anything at all. I’ve also had normal NPC undead types pop and get caught in the melee vs a champion, get nada from the champ and a yellow from the normal NPC.

The loot tables or the algorithms or the RNG – 1 or more of these are badly designed or are broken.

I never get anything to drop off a champ. I couldn’t get a champ to give me anything before the so called fix… I don’t know how many times I jumped in to help kill that champ risen abomination and he has yet to drop something. Then there’s all these other champions including Karka… nope no drops.

I second what Icecat says.. I can accidentally pull mobs in when dealing with a champ and end up with nothing from the champ and yellows from the mobs.. wtf