On the north side of Brisban Wildlands, there is a destroyed bridge and across it a zone entrance, I never noticed it before, but at the same time, never looked.
My personal theory is that it originally led to the Tengu starter zone, before that race was scrapped. That area of the map already has 3 starter areas and two 15-25 areas all close together. imo it would be a logical place to put it.
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My personal theory is that it originally led to the Tengu starter zone, before that race was scrapped. That area of the map already has 3 starter areas and two 15-25 areas all close together. imo it would be a logical place to put it.
That’s a cool theory. It’s be really interesting to learn if they had planned that at some point but of course we won’t cause anet. Though I’d think there would have had to be a specific tengu starter zone too that is tengu themed like the other racial starter theme zones.
Between the announcement that new maps would be coming in Season 2 and Drytop being added there was some speculation that this would be the entrance to the new zone.
This is probably the most obvious but there are a few places like this around the world. For example on the west side of Sparkfly Fen there’s a road leading towards the peninsula adjacent to Southsun which is blocked off by a rock. There’s also a large gate blocking a road in the south of Mount Maelstrom. And of course the game from Ebonhawk into the Crystal Desert.
My guess is either the final layout of the maps hadn’t been decided when they were being built so they simply put possible entrances/exits around the edges and blocked the ones they didn’t use, or they were leaving themselves options for expanding the map later on. (Like all the extra asura gates in LA that weren’t used until after the Battle for LA.)
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My personal theory is that it originally led to the Tengu starter zone, before that race was scrapped. That area of the map already has 3 starter areas and two 15-25 areas all close together. imo it would be a logical place to put it.
I don’t quite understand how that would make sense? It is north of Brisban Wildlands which is quite far from the Dominion of Winds, which has always been where it is – in what was Sanctum Cay in GW1. You can find proof of that in the map in the beginning of Ghosts of Ascalon which was released just over a year before the beta for GW2.
My personal theory is that it originally led to the Tengu starter zone, before that race was scrapped. That area of the map already has 3 starter areas and two 15-25 areas all close together. imo it would be a logical place to put it.
I don’t quite understand how that would make sense? It is north of Brisban Wildlands which is quite far from the Dominion of Winds, which has always been where it is – in what was Sanctum Cay in GW1. You can find proof of that in the map in the beginning of Ghosts of Ascalon which was released just over a year before the beta for GW2.
Well, the starter zone would have to be somewhere, right? If you look at the Sanctum Cay area on that map, it has far too much water to be a good starting zone. Since that area isn’t good, then where is the nearest area that is? If you look at the map the next open area to the east is way past Timberline Falls. The closest place to put it is to the west and above Brisbane would have been a good spot. Two starter zones side by side, two 15-25 zones side by side, then two starter zones side by side. If that isn’t a good spot, then what spot, with plenty of land and not water, do you think it would be?
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My personal theory is that it originally led to the Tengu starter zone, before that race was scrapped. That area of the map already has 3 starter areas and two 15-25 areas all close together. imo it would be a logical place to put it.
You mean this? I think I saw this on reddit awhile back.
My personal theory is that it originally led to the Tengu starter zone, before that race was scrapped. That area of the map already has 3 starter areas and two 15-25 areas all close together. imo it would be a logical place to put it.
You mean this? I think I saw this on reddit awhile back.
No. That picture shows the small, square area between Kessex and Lions Arch. That’s too small, imo, to be a starter zone. If you compare it to the other starter areas, it’s about one-third their size. The area I’m talking about is north of Brisbane, where there is a broken bridge leading to a portal.
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There are multiple places leading “outside” the known maps. South east corner of Mount Maelstrom for example, the guarded southern gate in Fields Of Ruin. The Tengu gates in LA and Caledon Forest… Up until Silverwastes, the bandit camp there was mystery as it was guarded by unique level 80 champion NPCs, which was kind of unusual in a low level zone.
My personal theory is that it originally led to the Tengu starter zone, before that race was scrapped. That area of the map already has 3 starter areas and two 15-25 areas all close together. imo it would be a logical place to put it.
You mean this? I think I saw this on reddit awhile back.
No. That picture shows the small, square area between Kessex and Lions Arch. That’s too small, imo, to be a starter zone. If you compare it to the other starter areas, it’s about one-third their size. The area I’m talking about is north of Brisbane, where there is a broken bridge leading to a portal.
I know but according to lore, there’s no way that north of Brisban would be the Tengu starting zone.
My personal theory is that it originally led to the Tengu starter zone, before that race was scrapped. That area of the map already has 3 starter areas and two 15-25 areas all close together. imo it would be a logical place to put it.
You mean this? I think I saw this on reddit awhile back.
That’s the Temple of Tolerance Map from that_shaman’s 2014 very well executed April Fools joke. I’m pretty sure he had ANet help to do it.
My personal theory is that it originally led to the Tengu starter zone, before that race was scrapped. That area of the map already has 3 starter areas and two 15-25 areas all close together. imo it would be a logical place to put it.
You mean this? I think I saw this on reddit awhile back.
No. That picture shows the small, square area between Kessex and Lions Arch. That’s too small, imo, to be a starter zone. If you compare it to the other starter areas, it’s about one-third their size. The area I’m talking about is north of Brisbane, where there is a broken bridge leading to a portal.
I know but according to lore, there’s no way that north of Brisban would be the Tengu starting zone.
Where do you think it would be then?
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tengu
“When Zhaitan awoke in 1219 AE, in an event the tengu call the Great Tsunami, the tengu of the world saw it as a sign to return to Tyria. It was a descendant of Talon Silverwing that led the charge through Zhaitan’s risen forces, and when the tengu reached land, they built their Dominion atop the island once known as Sanctum Cay, and unified their clans into the four modern houses, one for each of the winds. Out of fear of a repeated past, they constructed a great wall to encircle their city, and non-tengu are not permitted to enter.”
It doesn’t say here or in the article about the city where the starter zone is located.
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My personal theory is that it originally led to the Tengu starter zone, before that race was scrapped. That area of the map already has 3 starter areas and two 15-25 areas all close together. imo it would be a logical place to put it.
You mean this? I think I saw this on reddit awhile back.
No. That picture shows the small, square area between Kessex and Lions Arch. That’s too small, imo, to be a starter zone. If you compare it to the other starter areas, it’s about one-third their size. The area I’m talking about is north of Brisbane, where there is a broken bridge leading to a portal.
I know but according to lore, there’s no way that north of Brisban would be the Tengu starting zone.
Where do you think it would be then?
Wiki reads a little title confusingly to me but it says that
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tengu
“When Zhaitan awoke in 1219 AE, in an event the tengu call the Great Tsunami, the tengu of the world saw it as a sign to return to Tyria. It was a descendant of Talon Silverwing that led the charge through Zhaitan’s risen forces, and when the tengu reached land, they built their Dominion atop the island once known as Sanctum Cay, and unified their clans into the four modern houses, one for each of the winds. Out of fear of a repeated past, they constructed a great wall to encircle their city, and non-tengu are not permitted to enter.”
It doesn’t say here or in the article about the city where the starter zone is located.
Well the Domain of the Winds is the entire of the area between LA, Kessex Hills, Caledon, Southsun Cove and Bloodtide Coast. (Very approximate border in the picture below.)
If it wasn’t for Claw Island getting in the way that would be more than enough space for a starting zone and racial city. As it is they could still do it, but it’d be a bit disjointed. Although actually no worse than Rata Sum and Metrica Province.
Also remember that when this was first planned Southsun hadn’t been added yet so they could have gone further south too.
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My personal theory is that it originally led to the Tengu starter zone, before that race was scrapped. That area of the map already has 3 starter areas and two 15-25 areas all close together. imo it would be a logical place to put it.
You mean this? I think I saw this on reddit awhile back.
No. That picture shows the small, square area between Kessex and Lions Arch. That’s too small, imo, to be a starter zone. If you compare it to the other starter areas, it’s about one-third their size. The area I’m talking about is north of Brisbane, where there is a broken bridge leading to a portal.
I know but according to lore, there’s no way that north of Brisban would be the Tengu starting zone.
Where do you think it would be then?
Wiki reads a little title confusingly to me but it says that
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tengu
“When Zhaitan awoke in 1219 AE, in an event the tengu call the Great Tsunami, the tengu of the world saw it as a sign to return to Tyria. It was a descendant of Talon Silverwing that led the charge through Zhaitan’s risen forces, and when the tengu reached land, they built their Dominion atop the island once known as Sanctum Cay, and unified their clans into the four modern houses, one for each of the winds. Out of fear of a repeated past, they constructed a great wall to encircle their city, and non-tengu are not permitted to enter.”
It doesn’t say here or in the article about the city where the starter zone is located.
Well the Domain of the Winds is the entire of the area between LA, Kessex Hills, Caledon, Southsun Cove and Bloodtide Coast. (Very approximate border in the picture below.)
If it wasn’t for Claw Island getting in the way that would be more than enough space for a starting zone and racial city. As it is they could still do it, but it’d be a bit disjointed. Although actually no worse than Rata Sum and Metrica Province.
Also remember that when this was first planned Southsun hadn’t been added yet so they could have gone further south too.
And it’s still way too much water for a starter area, which was my point. A good portion of the available land will be taken up by the city itself, leaving not much land and a lot of water.
And to repeat what I said earlier, the wiki only says the city is there in the Dominion of Winds. It says nothing about where the starter area is and I doubt the devs would have new Tengu characters doing as much swimming as that area would require.
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I could quite easily imagine the tengu building their city on a series of platforms over the sea, maybe something a bit like the Labyrinthine Cliffs. Especially given their main goal in founding the Domain of the Wind was to isolate themselves from outsiders (humans in particular) and I doubt they started building the huge wall immediately.
But there’s also several areas in the game where the actual map and the undiscovered one don’t match and there’s a lot more, or less, water than there seems to be. Bloodtide Coast for example looks like a thin strip of land on the side of the Shiverpeaks and 3 small islands before it’s uncovered. Even Lion’s Arch looks like it’s mostly water. (And actually in the old version a lot of it was wooden platforms joining small islands in an estuary. Presumably the new one is the same but with concrete over the top so you can’t see it.)
Danielle Aurorel, Dear Dragon We Got Your Cookies [Nom], Desolation (EU).
My personal theory is that it originally led to the Tengu starter zone, before that race was scrapped. That area of the map already has 3 starter areas and two 15-25 areas all close together. imo it would be a logical place to put it.
You mean this? I think I saw this on reddit awhile back.
That’s the Temple of Tolerance Map from that_shaman’s 2014 very well executed April Fools joke. I’m pretty sure he had ANet help to do it.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tengu
“When Zhaitan awoke in 1219 AE, in an event the tengu call the Great Tsunami, the tengu of the world saw it as a sign to return to Tyria. It was a descendant of Talon Silverwing that led the charge through Zhaitan’s risen forces, and when the tengu reached land, they built their Dominion atop the island once known as Sanctum Cay, and unified their clans into the four modern houses, one for each of the winds. Out of fear of a repeated past, they constructed a great wall to encircle their city, and non-tengu are not permitted to enter.”
It doesn’t say here or in the article about the city where the starter zone is located.
According to the lore, all of the tengu that were in Cantha were exiled and went to Tyria/Elona. When Orr rose, the tengu saw it has a sign to return to Tyria. They then built their dominion over what was Sanctum Clay. It’s fairly reasonable to assume that if there was going to be a tengu starter zone when the game was released, it would have been there. The city could have been anywhere in that section and for all we know, it could technically be above the map.
