Guild Wars 2

I for one HATE crafting it doesn’t “feel good” to me to craft and wear armor that you crafted, I prefer to go through a meat grinder per say to get the best armor and have a feeling I earned through tears and love not a chore.

I want idk maybe a challenge reward track type system that you do to get all the pieces, not the .8% drop chance to be a random type of armor rng type thing either.. This is a mmo not diablo.

They could drop for you in a fractal, Teq/Tri Wurm chest. You can also obtain them from WvW Rank Up chests and some Champ Bags/Boxes.

You can also obtain a couple of ascended armour chests from achievements such as Ambrite Weapon Collector and the Luminescent Armour collection absolutely guaranteed with a full choice of stats/pieces/weights.

That’s 6/7 ways of getting it other than crafting, which is pretty reasonable considering ascended gear is only required for a tiny portion of the game.

There should be better, more meaningful ways of attaining it outside of crafting.

While yes you can get them from
-Jumping Puzzles
-Fractals reward chest
-PvP reward chest
-WvW reward chest
- Some achievements

There’s really not a meaningful way.

I’d argue that adding them to WvW and Fractals more frequently would work.
Add them to every level of fractal above 20, so people can get progression and feel like they are working toward something (mostly improve the chance of acquisition)

For WvW they should be added as near guaranteed rewards for taking fully upgraded keeps, as opposed to the 2 blues/greens. This would promote active fights for structures. Additionally they could easily rework the loot gained from rank up chest to be more along the lines of every x-8 ranks blue/green 9/10 rare/exotic/ascended or some form of it

There is no reliable way to get ascended gear, outside of crafting. This means that anyone wanting to do high-level fractals is forced to level several disciplines. I have a friend who hates crafting (never does it in any game he’s played), so he’s locked out of L30+ FotM. I also think it goes against the spirit of the “play how you like” aspect of the game.

Crimson Clouds.4853:

They could drop for you in a fractal, Teq/Tri Wurm chest. You can also obtain them from WvW Rank Up chests and some Champ Bags/Boxes.

You can also obtain a couple of ascended armour chests from achievements such as Ambrite Weapon Collector and the Luminescent Armour collection absolutely guaranteed with a full choice of stats/pieces/weights.

That’s 6/7 ways of getting it other than crafting, which is pretty reasonable considering ascended gear is only required for a tiny portion of the game.

I have almost 4000 hours played and I’ve never seen a ascended piece drop for myself. I’ve seen one drop for a friend of mine.

I gotta LOL at those examples you gave.

BTW I hate hate hate crafting. I just finished a set of light ascended and I’d guess it cost 600g when all was said and done.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

There is no reliable way to get ascended gear, outside of crafting. This means that anyone wanting to do high-level fractals is forced to level several disciplines. I have a friend who hates crafting (never does it in any game he’s played), so he’s locked out of L30+ FotM. I also think it goes against the spirit of the “play how you like” aspect of the game.

30 AR from vers infusions in trinkets. Get another 15-30 from Agony Infusions from running fractals or buying them. You’re set for running everything up to 49s until you get ascended weapons.

edit: not a single bit of crafting necessary. Outside of forge “crafting” to infuse rings and backpiece.

You can get Ascended drops from a lot of places already. I’ve gotten Weapon boxes, Armor boxes, and Rings from WvW Rank Chests, FotM, and Teq/Wurm runs. Sure it’s RNG, but you save a lot of Gold if you manage to get lucky.

The downside to this is that you can’t control what you get. If your aim is to go full Zerker build, it doesn’t help with a Cleric Weapon box drops.

Godmoney.2048:

Crimson Clouds.4853:

They could drop for you in a fractal, Teq/Tri Wurm chest. You can also obtain them from WvW Rank Up chests and some Champ Bags/Boxes.

You can also obtain a couple of ascended armour chests from achievements such as Ambrite Weapon Collector and the Luminescent Armour collection absolutely guaranteed with a full choice of stats/pieces/weights.

That’s 6/7 ways of getting it other than crafting, which is pretty reasonable considering ascended gear is only required for a tiny portion of the game.

I have almost 4000 hours played and I’ve never seen a ascended piece drop for myself. I’ve seen one drop for a friend of mine.

I gotta LOL at those examples you gave.

BTW I hate hate hate crafting. I just finished a set of light ascended and I’d guess it cost 600g when all was said and done.

you sir are the most unlucky person in tyria. I get an asc chest drop at least once a week.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

There is no reliable way to get ascended gear, outside of crafting.
…
I also think it goes against the spirit of the “play how you like” aspect of the game.

You can play the game just fine without a single piece of Ascended gear.

What do you want, 10 gems per item in the gem store?
- Even then, somebody would say it "goes against the spirit of the “play how you like” aspect of the game" until it was free. And then it would go against the spirit for people who desire a challenge for their shiny (which BTW, would put us right back to where the game was before Ascended gear was added to offset how easy Exotic gear was to get)…

But its gear, not play.

You can do any content in this game with even leveling blue and green gear. Just not as easily (Dungeons), or to as high of a ranking (PvP/WvW and Fractals).

“Winning” and “give me all the shinies for free” are not play styles, but score-metrics.

Those who get ascended drops constantly are the outliers. I also played over 2,500 hours and have had 3 ascended armor/weapon drops, and only ONE that anyone would actually want. Honestly, I feel that using “drops all over” as an argument is just silly. For MOST players this does not happen. Oh, I also detest crafting. I would love to be able to work toward ascended armor and weapons without crafting and without having the LUCKY account I don’t have.

Bovan.9481:

Godmoney.2048:

I have almost 4000 hours played and I’ve never seen a ascended piece drop for myself. I’ve seen one drop for a friend of mine.

I’ve played about 5600 hours and I’ve had a whole bank tab full of ascended chests, including enough for a full set of berserker gear with berserker weapons.

Do you just afk in Lion’s Arch or something?

EDIT:
Added image. The slots which currently don’t have a chest I’ve already opened and used. I don’t think I’m all that lucky, I just get off my butt and do things.

Your logic isn’t logic and is extremely flawed. You’re using the example of ONE account, which is not representative of most. You sound just like the players who’ve gotten 10 precursors dropped for them in 6 months saying “what? it’s easy, just play”. What a boat load of nonsense.

Bovan.9481:

Godmoney.2048:

I have almost 4000 hours played and I’ve never seen a ascended piece drop for myself. I’ve seen one drop for a friend of mine.

I’ve played about 5600 hours and I’ve had a whole bank tab full of ascended chests, including enough for a full set of berserker gear with berserker weapons.

Do you just afk in Lion’s Arch or something?

EDIT:
Added image. The slots which currently don’t have a chest I’ve already opened and used. I don’t think I’m all that lucky, I just get off my butt and do things.

I do fractals and WVW mostly. Some dungeons for farming.

Maybe those RNG theories of broken RNG accounts is true. No I don’t afk ever really.

Kichwas.7152:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

There is no reliable way to get ascended gear, outside of crafting.
…
I also think it goes against the spirit of the “play how you like” aspect of the game.

You can play the game just fine without a single piece of Ascended gear.

What do you want, 10 gems per item in the gem store?
- Even then, somebody would say it "goes against the spirit of the “play how you like” aspect of the game" until it was free. And then it would go against the spirit for people who desire a challenge for their shiny (which BTW, would put us right back to where the game was before Ascended gear was added to offset how easy Exotic gear was to get)…

But its gear, not play.

You can do any content in this game with even leveling blue and green gear. Just not as easily (Dungeons), or to as high of a ranking (PvP/WvW and Fractals).

“Winning” and “give me all the shinies for free” are not play styles, but score-metrics.

You left out the part of my post where I mentioned my friend was interested in Fractals, which does depend on Ascended gear. The context of my point about “playing the game as you like” is that we currently do exactly that for skill acquisition: no specific content required. It’s the opposite for ascended armor & weapons.

(I myself left out mention of ascended trinkets, which, as correctly pointed out above, can only be acquired outside of crafting.)

As mentioned there are numerous ways to acquire Ascended. It’s completely in the PHIW philosophy.

Some methods are more optimal then others, but none of them are exclusionary.

lol I’m level 0 in every crafting thing but I have 3.5/6 asceneded accessories (.5 because I’m pretty much almost done getting my back piece). Then I just need guild commendations for the earrings and bam bam boom 6/6 ascended accessories.

Accessories cannot be crafted. Still.

I’m with those who believe that drops of Ascended armor and weapons is nothing but lip service to the promise to make them available by a secondary means. It fulfills the letter of the ANet statement, while leaving the spirit of the statement lifeless and empty.

I’ll point again to the poster who opened 11,800 champion bags and got 1 Asc. armor and no weapons. This drop rate is in the neighborhood of .000085, and that’s a hefty sample size. Even if the sample is an anomaly, and the drop rate is 10x better, that’s .00085, or 85 hundreds of a percent. Then, if you get the drop, you still have one chance in x, where x = the number of possible prefixes, to get a piece you’d want.

So, congratulations to those who managed to get full sets of Asc. armor and weapons with desired stats for multiple characters via drops. Who are you, again?

This thread and some of the posts here are the only reason i still believe that arenanet is capable of making proper decisions sometime.

The drop rate of these should not be the same from every source. Since you only need ascended armor for a very specific content, fractals 50, the ascended armor chests should drop more often in fractals than from champion bags or world bosses, etc. So if you get one ascended chest from 12000 champ bags, that’s perfect considering the rate at which some diggers (chest farmers) get these bags in the silverwastes.

So if you complain about not getting the one gear type you want or drops, maybe try doing higher level fractals. If you don’t want to, you don’t need the gear anyway.

Each dungeon should have a high cost item that can be used to ‘ascend’ dungeon gear.

Piece of level 80 exotic dungeon gear + ascender item + vision crystal + some other item crafted with ascended materials in the mystic forge = Ascended version of the piece of dungeon gear.

You don’t get an ascended skin, but you get the stats.

There would also be variants of some skins. For example:

• Ascended CoF armor will have dyable fire.
• Ascended AC weapons would have two versions depending on the 4th item of the recipe: one always ghostly, one always daily..
• Ascended HotW weapons would have no ice when stowed away, and the ice forms when taken out.
• Ascended nightmare weapons would be rather harder to make, as their 4th item is the corresponded aetherized weapon instead ascended materials, and the ascended version also has the aetherized skin.

And so on.

No offense OP but why are you stressing on ascended gear? There is only one area of the game were its necessary, fractal 50 unless you can afford to make 10+ infusion on trinkets. Let me tell you fractals 50 doesn’t give any better reward than silver waste or any other dungeon. Its actually worst lol.

Just enjoy your exotic gear. The reward track idea is nice but Anet needs a way to keep the mouse entertained in the maze.

How would you suggest the reward track to be completed? By doing world events? By beating champs? By playing a certain number of hours?

If you say by amount of hours played anything below a thousand hours is unacceptable to veteran players. Because the gold cost alone to craft to 500 is crazy. Not counting the items itself. I made my light and heavy ascended gear and felt happy about it.

I took my time. exotic gear drops like candy ascended was meant for a long haul.

Jay.1085:

I took my time. exotic gear drops like candy ascended was meant for a long haul.

You mean green drops like candy, rare is more mealtimes, exotic some 5 star restaurant food an ascended 5 michelin star type of stuff. I even stopped doing boss events as I only got blues and greens from them and a rare from that daily extra chest.

I’m actually surprised that you can’t reliably get ascended via running lower level fractals. I mean ascended is really only needed for higher level fractals, so it would make sense from a progression standpoint.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Kichwas.7152:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

There is no reliable way to get ascended gear, outside of crafting.
…
I also think it goes against the spirit of the “play how you like” aspect of the game.

You can play the game just fine without a single piece of Ascended gear.

What do you want, 10 gems per item in the gem store?
- Even then, somebody would say it "goes against the spirit of the “play how you like” aspect of the game" until it was free. And then it would go against the spirit for people who desire a challenge for their shiny (which BTW, would put us right back to where the game was before Ascended gear was added to offset how easy Exotic gear was to get)…

But its gear, not play.

You can do any content in this game with even leveling blue and green gear. Just not as easily (Dungeons), or to as high of a ranking (PvP/WvW and Fractals).

“Winning” and “give me all the shinies for free” are not play styles, but score-metrics.

You left out the part of my post where I mentioned my friend was interested in Fractals, which does depend on Ascended gear.

Because I answered the point about playing as you like. You CAN do any content without Ascended gear.

I have all of 1 to 3 soulbound ascended items on 8 80s. 1 amulet, and maybe 2 more amulets but I think just the one…
I have 1 more ascended thing somewhere in my bank or a bag, that dropped somewhere.

I do fractals anytime the mood for them suits me. And usually not on the character(s) that have the Ascended amulet(s) because I can never remember which one or so that is…

What you want… is to basically “raid at the top tier of raiding, with all the epic dudes, but without putting in the effort to get there.” Having just come back from WoW my thinking is still in their terms a bit… and Fractals in GW2 are the closest thing this game has to Raids…

That is demanding a “/win” button…

You can do any Fractal you want.. in green and blue gear. Just you’re doing the “lowbie version”. If this were WoW… the first few levels of Fractals… that’s “LFR”.

Those high level Fractals… just like high ranked raids in any raiding MMO… have a barrier to entry.

BUT THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME CONTENT AS THE LOW LEVEL FRACTALS.

So… I find your entire complaint invalid. It is an entitlement complaint. You want the win, without having to work for it.

If they just handed out anything… the people who seek challenges, would get bored and leave…

And that is exactly the situation Ascended gear was put in to address. Because Exotic gear rains on us… After my first 80, the others all had near full to full Exotic gear usually within 20-60 minutes of hitting 80. It is just so silly easy to get.

The challenge then was getting skins I liked for all 8 80s… that came LONG BEFORE I had the Dungeon Master title BTW…

As soon as you get your Ascended demand… to be allowed to get it handed to you on account creation… then what? They will have to make ‘Enlightened One’ gear… and ‘Particles’ – new dungeons to grind for that… and then somebody will demand they get that gear on account creation… and its rinse-wash-repeat…

And that that point… the game might as well be WoW… because that’s the ride WoW has been on for years…

I love this topic its basically people whining about asc gear being hard to get. Its meant to be hard to get its the best gear in the game so lets not whine about it to anet so scrubs can get it easier mkay

We I need want another option to get ascended gear.

FTFY.

I’ve done over 2000 fractals and have 4.5 berserker sets, 2 defender sets, and 2 condi sets. I crafted 1.5 of the berserker sets. And got one of those coats through the luminescent armor. But 2000 fractals is a lot..

Really it’s not expensive to craft them. Sure leveling costs maybe 200g but then you can farm a majority of the matts yourself really easy. Now if you are paying upfront to skip time gated crafting then yes it’s expensive.

Ah, and I remembered I was going to link this thread when people start talking about ascended being too hard to get:

Full Ascended Armor & Accessories in 35 Days From Account Birth

I like the Idea of crafting the best armor in game, instead of waiting and playing dungeons only, over and over again, just to see that another player get this item you really want and need. Sure, it takes too much time, my celestial light armor took me over an year to craft. But in the end, I have got finished this without the rng-factor, which hates me in most of the other mmo’s, not in gw2 I have to admit. The only thing which could be critizes, is that you need 100 silkbolts for one damask. I really wish there were an alternative with leather and metal.

Like mmorpg never have been RNG heavy… do you have any experience in the genre or is that diablo reference just something you throw in there to give your point more meaning despite having no idea what you are talking about?

You say you don´t want to submit to the RNG gods for your ascended gear – check.
You say you don´t want to take the route that guarantees you success in acquiring that gear (because you don´t like the “feel” of wearing crafted stuff… yeah, right, I wonder how that feels) – check

I doubt your problem is the crafting, seems more like you want BiS gear handed to you without much effort. Then say it and don´t make up such Mickey Mouse arguments.

MarkoNS.3261:

I love this topic its basically people whining about asc gear being hard to get. Its meant to be hard to get its the best gear in the game so lets not whine about it to anet so scrubs can get it easier mkay

No one is whining its hard to get. we want another way to get them without some rng bs yeah some people have good luck some people have bad luck and you cannot rely on luck I like to rely on skill to get stuff. Make it the most difficult group content stuff in the game that you gotta do to get it idc just another option is nice “variety is the spice of life” options are always good because no one is the same some people love crafting others like me would much rather earn it through some kind of challenge grind or what ever. point done.

TriumphantReaper.6089:

No one is whining its hard to get. we want another way to get them without some rng bs

And you have that way without rng. Craft it, just like everyone else who wanted ascended with certain stats has crafted one set at least.

Evion.2471:

Godmoney.2048:

Crimson Clouds.4853:

They could drop for you in a fractal, Teq/Tri Wurm chest. You can also obtain them from WvW Rank Up chests and some Champ Bags/Boxes.

You can also obtain a couple of ascended armour chests from achievements such as Ambrite Weapon Collector and the Luminescent Armour collection absolutely guaranteed with a full choice of stats/pieces/weights.

That’s 6/7 ways of getting it other than crafting, which is pretty reasonable considering ascended gear is only required for a tiny portion of the game.

I have almost 4000 hours played and I’ve never seen a ascended piece drop for myself. I’ve seen one drop for a friend of mine.

I gotta LOL at those examples you gave.

BTW I hate hate hate crafting. I just finished a set of light ascended and I’d guess it cost 600g when all was said and done.

you sir are the most unlucky person in tyria. I get an asc chest drop at least once a week.

Such exquisite irony, importing the “raid gear is only needed for raiding” defense when the only aspect of Ascended needed for FotM is the agony infusion. Ascended’s modest stat boosts were nothing but a stopgap to keep the “work in a game” crowd busy while ANet tried to figure out alternate means of post-80 progression. Oh well, what else can you expect from an MMO?

You need 500 in a crafting skill to get it. So it does require skill ;-p
But really it’s not at all hard to craft it. Farm silver wastes and you will have more than enough mats for it.

Evion.2471:

you sir are the most unlucky person in tyria. I get an asc chest drop at least once a week.

3300 hours here, no ascended drops either, despite doing Tequatl daily and fractals pretty often. I however, am crafting a sinister set, unfortunately i cannot get the skin i want because of RNG.

But if you dont want to deal with RNG, craft it. If you dont want to craft, you have to deal with RNG. Seems pretty fair to me, even though i never get good drops.

I have played this game from launch and only gotten one ascended chest from that new mist zone everyone says is not wvw.

I’ve only recently returned to playing several hours a day, about 3 -4 months now and from what I see linked from other players getting from drops daily and some got 3 beta portals or more you can’t say this luck system for loot is not somehow messed up.

I know the debate, read tons of arguments, counter arguments, plain fact is even with the best guild buffs, food anything that adds to magic find I still get crap all the time.

One ascended drop for all the hours I log a day I don’t think so.

From a game that toted the gear treadmill would never be like other RPGs I think it’s all a bunch of crap.

I have little gold to spend on runes of the traveler and other high end runes that as of last night were 5 gold a pop, torment 13 gold etc

I read wvw build posts and look up the suggested gear to go along with the builds.

There is a significant difference in overall stats, whatever they may be ie condition duration for example between the pink highlighted gear vs exotic.

I check to see what gear it is and I see pink color with dire, or some affix to the gear.

Regardless of if the gear is ascended or celestial or whatever pink represents it’s all better than exotic stats and other stat benefits. just saying its a 5 %. difference or whatever the actual number is not a complete picture.

Waiting or hoping for ascended gear to drop without being able to craft it while tons of other people have bis gear is crapola system.

The only character I don’t have at 80 is a warrior. I have tried all current suggested specs on all of my 80s for wvw and get smoke checked 90% of the time.

Why? Because when I see legendary weapons glowing some the size of a building I know not only does this person have the best weapon stats in the game they all but sure have the gear to go along with it.

I know here it comes, you can’t play your class, you suck at wvw etc.

Truth is before ascended I never had issues hardly at all, part of reason I stopped playing.

ante and other won’t admit how borked things are just with gear treadmill alone never mind class issues, necro example or broken abiliteies.

4 months back same old exotic gear Now I know why I left in the first place.

Gear treadmill needs an overhaul, screw the ring drop formula its crap

Jaising.7253:

Because when I see legendary weapons glowing some the size of a building I know not only does this person have the best weapon stats in the game they all but sure have the gear to go along with it.

So much nope.

Legendary weapons do not have the best weapon stats in the game, they are no better than Ascended weapons. They just look more shiny and have the ability to change stats at anytime rather than the permanent choice you make for what kind of ascended gear you make. (zerk, condi, celestial, etc)

Secondly, there are many players… dare I say a majority of players that own a legendary weapon that don’t have a single piece of ascended armor. While there are some crafting requirements to make a legendary weapon, most of it consists of chucking stuff into the Mystic Forge. As long as you have all the materials needed, there is no time gate preventing you from making as many as you want as fast as you want (in theory).

So your theory is quite flawed.

BIGHARSHNESS.3510:

Secondly, there are many players… dare I say a majority of players that own a legendary weapon that don’t have a single piece of ascended armor.

So your theory is quite flawed.

So true! Up until recently i was one of those who had no ascended armor but a legendary! (the minstrel). Im more interested in making shiny weapons than max stat armor..that just isnt required…

I have no problems with crafting (have crafted maybe 20 weapons and 2 armor sets) ..
but i wish i could finally craft also jewelry.

I don’t do fractals but have 17 characters, and to get jewelry for them all only
via Laurels will take me maybe another 3-5 years or whatever.

Also, i never got an ascended chest at all with 6500 hours played.

Do your maximum Fractal level daily until you’re above 30 then just do 19s and 29 daily. I’ve personally geared 2 characters in Zerk/Assasin gear just from this Perhaps I’ve been incredibly lucky but the ascended chests DO drop at a nice rate at 19. The problem is a lot of people go once.. twice maybe a third time and don’t get a drop and then give up.

The only reason at all to do a Fractal 41-50 is for the tonic or the challenge. Given that most people pull mossman from 10+….. shows they don’t care about the challenge so I’m beyond knowing why they bother with the higher levels when they don’t do the lower ones.

@The person above, why do you need ascended jewellry for all your characters? To get like 10 points more power? Exotics are perfect for all 80 content.
I run fractals all the time, I have all 9 chars (inc revanant.. rings in storage) set with 2 sets of rings (most brought from Pristine Relics) and can purchase at least 20 more rings if I needed to. (Meta change etc)
On days with daily fractal/fractal X-X0 then you can get up to 3 pristine relics in just 1 Fractal. I’m sorry if that’s too hard for you. But if it is, you really don’t need ascended items as doing a 1-10 fractal is some of the easiest pve content in the game.

If you only have a small amount of time a day to play then you need to prioritize that time if you want to get things done. It’s honestly useless to say “oh I have 3 hours to play i should get as good a reward as someone that plays 20 hours a day”

That’s just not realistic. You work 9 hours a day, if someone works only 1 hour a day who “should” make more money?

I’m getting sick and tired of people that don’t have the time to invest in the game complaining it takes them longer than people who do have the time. Suck it up, it’s going to take longer.

So if you “need” those ascended rings so badly, on the days with daily fractal DO THE DAILY FRACTAL.
On the days without the daily fractal, at least do a 1-10 for a Pristine Relic. That’s 1/10th of your ring right there and it shouldn’t take too long as most enemies melt with even super new players.

BIGHARSHNESS.3510:

Legendary weapons do not have the best weapon stats in the game, they are no better than Ascended weapons. They just look more shiny and have the ability to change stats at anytime rather than the permanent choice you make for what kind of ascended gear you make. (zerk, condi, celestial, etc)

Legendaries are equal to ascended weapons.
Ascended weapons have the highest stats in the game
Therefore legendaries also have the highest stats in the game.

The reason that crafting is the only practical way to obtain ascended is economic. Nobody would be inclined to craft if it wasnt required for something. Its a big part of what gives materials thier value.

Everyone that posts that you only need acsended gear for one aspect of the game can f off, if it has higher stats, it’s the best gear and it’s needed everywhere. Apart from that, I don’t bother trying to get it, time gated crafting and crafting grinds in general are no fun at all and running the same instance with a bunch of kittens every day is even less fun. I’ll just keep playing WvW and get a drop a year maybe that I won’t be able to use and just stay close to a zerg so that I wont run into one of those lucky idiots who post drops all day with a stupid smiley face after every sentence who seem to have stuff dropping at their feet just by logging on for a minute.

I wouldn’t care at all how long it would take or how difficult the fight would be if doing the fun content was a reliable way to get the best in slot gear but having to do bland content for the best gear to keep up with people who mostly do bland content but slum it in your neck of the game once in awhile to show off makes me want to log off and stare at a wall.

kash.9213:

Everyone that posts that you only need acsended gear for one aspect of the game can f off, if it has higher stats, it’s the best gear and it’s needed everywhere. Apart from that, I don’t bother trying to get it, time gated crafting and crafting grinds in general are no fun at all and running the same instance with a bunch of kittens every day is even less fun. I’ll just keep playing WvW and get a drop a year maybe that I won’t be able to use and just stay close to a zerg so that I wont run into one of those lucky idiots who post drops all day with a stupid smiley face after every sentence who seem to have stuff dropping at their feet just by logging on for a minute.

I wouldn’t care at all how long it would take or how difficult the fight would be if doing the fun content was a reliable way to get the best in slot gear but having to do bland content for the best gear to keep up with people who mostly do bland content but slum it in your neck of the game once in awhile to show off makes me want to log off and stare at a wall.

Want and need are two different things. Simply because it has better stats doesn’t make it a requirement hence not needed. Any aspect that stats really matter are normalized or scaled, Ascended really only has an impact on PVE and is somewhat needed in higher level fractals. So yes it is only NEEDED in one aspect. The idea that you need the best gear outside of fractals is just in your head. You want the best gear but don’t need it.

“Fun Content” is subjective, you mention WvW zergs which some might find bland and meaningless, in the same way you might find dungeons boring.

Your post sounds more like a jealous rant about drops then anything, or about people who link ascended chests(which usually are just trolls). You seem to only want the gear because someone else has it.

BrooksP.4318:

kash.9213:

Everyone that posts that you only need acsended gear for one aspect of the game can f off, if it has higher stats, it’s the best gear and it’s needed everywhere. Apart from that, I don’t bother trying to get it, time gated crafting and crafting grinds in general are no fun at all and running the same instance with a bunch of kittens every day is even less fun. I’ll just keep playing WvW and get a drop a year maybe that I won’t be able to use and just stay close to a zerg so that I wont run into one of those lucky idiots who post drops all day with a stupid smiley face after every sentence who seem to have stuff dropping at their feet just by logging on for a minute.

I wouldn’t care at all how long it would take or how difficult the fight would be if doing the fun content was a reliable way to get the best in slot gear but having to do bland content for the best gear to keep up with people who mostly do bland content but slum it in your neck of the game once in awhile to show off makes me want to log off and stare at a wall.

Want and need are two different things. Simply because it has better stats doesn’t make it a requirement hence not needed. Any aspect that stats really matter are normalized or scaled, Ascended really only has an impact on PVE and is somewhat needed in higher level fractals. So yes it is only NEEDED in one aspect. The idea that you need the best gear outside of fractals is just in your head. You want the best gear but don’t need it.

“Fun Content” is subjective, you mention WvW zergs which some might find bland and meaningless, in the same way you might find dungeons boring.

Your post sounds more like a jealous rant about drops then anything, or about people who link ascended chests(which usually are just trolls). You seem to only want the gear because someone else has it.

The best stats are always going to be needed if you’re up against someone with those better stats. I didn’t say zergs were fun, I mentioned the need to stick close to them if I’m going to fall behind in stats. I’ll play hard with the limited time I have and I’ll play all the way through but I’m not going craft hard and press a craft button over and over with what time I have or run through the same instance the same way over and over with mostly people who want nothing to do with you. It’s not a huge deal, I still play and don’t sweat it much, but it’s a bit aggravating every time people post that best in slot gear is only for people who play one instanced part of a game or that you should spend all of your game time crafting because that’s what they do.

Currently there’s littly incentive to craft ascended gear. I crafted it because I wanted to play fractal 50 for a higher chance on fractal sword skin. Other than that, there’s almost no reason to do so.

I’d rather want them to make it more difficult to craft ‘em, although I’d want to be through something skillfull instead of buying with gold. Also add something “special.” It’s just a 5% ( Or even lower ?) increase in stats right now.

BrooksP.4318:

Want and need are two different things.

need: n
1. a requirement, necessary duty, or obligation
2. a lack of something wanted or deemed necessary
3. urgent want, as of something requisite
4. necessity arising from the circumstances of a situation or case
5. a situation or time of difficulty; exigency
6. a condition marked by the lack of something requisite
7. destitution; extreme poverty
8. a thing that is necessary for an organism to live a healthy life

You’re hanging your point on #4, above. Those who use the word in discussions about gear in this game are (usually) using definition #2.

Evion.2471:

Godmoney.2048:

Crimson Clouds.4853:

They could drop for you in a fractal, Teq/Tri Wurm chest. You can also obtain them from WvW Rank Up chests and some Champ Bags/Boxes.

You can also obtain a couple of ascended armour chests from achievements such as Ambrite Weapon Collector and the Luminescent Armour collection absolutely guaranteed with a full choice of stats/pieces/weights.

That’s 6/7 ways of getting it other than crafting, which is pretty reasonable considering ascended gear is only required for a tiny portion of the game.

I have almost 4000 hours played and I’ve never seen a ascended piece drop for myself. I’ve seen one drop for a friend of mine.

I gotta LOL at those examples you gave.

BTW I hate hate hate crafting. I just finished a set of light ascended and I’d guess it cost 600g when all was said and done.

you sir are the most unlucky person in tyria. I get an asc chest drop at least once a week.

Actually I’d say you’re the luckiest in Tyria, and his experience would be closer to normal

BIGHARSHNESS.3510:

Jaising.7253:

Because when I see legendary weapons glowing some the size of a building I know not only does this person have the best weapon stats in the game they all but sure have the gear to go along with it.

So much nope.

Legendary weapons do not have the best weapon stats in the game, they are no better than Ascended weapons. They just look more shiny and have the ability to change stats at anytime rather than the permanent choice you make for what kind of ascended gear you make. (zerk, condi, celestial, etc)

Secondly, there are many players… dare I say a majority of players that own a legendary weapon that don’t have a single piece of ascended armor. While there are some crafting requirements to make a legendary weapon, most of it consists of chucking stuff into the Mystic Forge. As long as you have all the materials needed, there is no time gate preventing you from making as many as you want as fast as you want (in theory).

So your theory is quite flawed.

And the person you’re quoting isn’t using ascended, they’re using exotic, and as such in a neck on neck fight skillwise, they’re at a disadvantage.