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Posted by: Mike O Brien

Mike O Brien

President -- ArenaNet

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This is an update to the situation where soulbound items have been incorrectly soulbound to the wrong characters. After further investigation we’ve determined that there is damage to almost all character records that were played this morning, not just to those who transferred soulbound items to or from a bank. To repair the damage, we will have to roll back the state of the game and characters to prior to this morning’s release.

No one wants to lose a play session’s progress. We apologize for this. I’m sure you’ll also have questions about exactly what a rollback means to you. The general answer is that everything about the game state, including things like trading post transactions, will be restored to how it was prior to this morning’s release. The only unusual case will be that if you purchased the game or purchased gems this morning, you’ll still get your purchase.

The process of rolling back and then validating everything to bring the game back up will take hours. We’ll keep you updated. There will be a period of time when these forums will be unavailable, but we’ll post updates through other channels.

Mo

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

Thank you for keeping us updated.

Can someone clarify, for those of us in different time zones, approximately when “this morning” is?

2 hours ago? 4 hours ago? 8 hours ago?

Danielle Aurorel, Dear Dragon We Got Your Cookies [Nom], Desolation (EU).

“Life’s a journey, not a destination.”

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

“This morning” probably means with the release of the most recent patch, I’d imagine.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Oh, wow. This bug is very serious.

Good luck, hope it doesn’t take too long. And thanks for the update, Mike.

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Posted by: NumenorLord.6539

NumenorLord.6539

Good luck with that Mike, thanks for the updates.

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Posted by: orenwolf.1953

orenwolf.1953

As one ops guy to another, sending good vibes to the netops guys.

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Posted by: Entenkommando.5208

Entenkommando.5208

Oh god how much I wish I had insight to your code to realize how it is even possible to randomly create a bug like this.

R.I.P Kodasch Allianz [KoA]

All we wanted was a GvG.

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Posted by: Merlin.5402

Merlin.5402

I guess its fine…

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Posted by: MarMaster.6241

MarMaster.6241

Good luck to operations, roll-backs can be messy.
I’ll go spend time with my family.

Dragonbrand (JQ) [FIRE]bats ~ Trusted member of the Universe
Mar Steadfast G, Silent Intrigue T, Mar Fidget Engi, Mar Fierce W, Silent Awe M
In GW2 since BWE1 ~ ~ ~ Guild leader of Legio Romana [LR], too

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Posted by: Nico Cunen.2589

Nico Cunen.2589

Not sure, but I think this means about a 90g loss for me. =( Anyways, thanks for keeping us updated, and good luck with the reroll and fixing things.

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Posted by: Outlaw.3421

Outlaw.3421

I understand that bugs happen in the live environment versus the testing environment and going through QA, but there have been some serious bugs introduced into the game since Season 3 launched when there was talk about quality content being produced with the 2 – 3 month episode timeframe.

I do not believe Guild Wars 2 had such a serious problem before even back when you were on a 2 week schedule on Season 1 or Season 2. I wish you all the best in fixing these issues and preventing them in the future

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Posted by: Orangensaft.7139

Orangensaft.7139

a still prayer to everyone who found their first precursor after over 3 years today and will lose it

i feel your pain

We Glitched Out Of All [MAPS]
26x lvl 80 Characters
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Posted by: AncientYs.8613

AncientYs.8613

so with this reroll does it mean i lost all progress for events? like the blood stone crazed mobs. does that get rolled back as well? i hope not.. those were really hard to get. especially the bloodstone slivers.. but more importantly i wouldnt want to have to redo the bloodstone crazed monsters..

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Posted by: KestrelGirl.9267

KestrelGirl.9267

Darn. Good thing all I did today was check out the new stuff in the gemstore/That_Shaman’s post.

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Posted by: Sasori.8642

Sasori.8642

Oh god. I spent a huge chunk of time this morning farming buried locked chests to get rid of my zephyrite keys. Now I’m going to have to do it all over again, AND I lost a fossilized insect too.

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

Oh god how much I wish I had insight to your code to realize how it is even possible to randomly create a bug like this.

Computers are weird like that.

In my old job we created a new version of the Access database we used to register enquiries. Nothing major, just some small changes.

It was tested by the same 7 people who would use the final version, on the same computers and we all agreed it appeared to be bug-free. The only thing we did after that was move it to another location on the server.

Somehow that introduced a bug where if you clicked the blank space next to a button (which should do nothing at all since it’s blank space) it would ask if you wanted to save the record, and if you clicked yes it would crash the program.

That was about a year before I changed jobs and we never were able to work out why it did that, and therefore couldn’t fix it. We just had to warn the new people that if you hadn’t clicked save and it asked if you wanted to you should click no.

Danielle Aurorel, Dear Dragon We Got Your Cookies [Nom], Desolation (EU).

“Life’s a journey, not a destination.”

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Posted by: Ohoni.6057

Ohoni.6057

What are you doing in terms of compensation for this change? I mean, will dailies that were cleared during this period be automatically cleared, or will we just miss out on that daily progression entirely? Will we get our loot compensated somehow? I mean, usually when a game takes things away from players that they have earned, they give something back as fair compensation.

“If you spent as much time working on [some task] as
you spend complaining about it on the forums, you’d be
done by now.”

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Posted by: Razor.9872

Razor.9872

Oh, wow. This bug is very serious.

Good luck, hope it doesn’t take too long. And thanks for the update, Mike.

Chak in the server rooms this time. They got rid of the karka problem, but it’s been replaced with a greater evil.

NSPride <3

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

What are you doing in terms of compensation for this change? I mean, will dailies that were cleared during this period be automatically cleared, or will we just miss out on that daily progression entirely? Will we get our loot compensated somehow? I mean, usually when a game takes things away from players that they have earned, they give something back as fair compensation.

I doubt they’re thinking about that now. They’re probably just trying to get the bug fixed and the servers back online.

Danielle Aurorel, Dear Dragon We Got Your Cookies [Nom], Desolation (EU).

“Life’s a journey, not a destination.”

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Posted by: that baby stealing dingo.7216

that baby stealing dingo.7216

Thanks for the update Mike.

I would also like to know what time the game will be rolled back to.

I have a sword, a dagger, and an estimated life span of 2.47 seconds.

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Posted by: Lyp Sao.1375

Lyp Sao.1375

Oh god how much I wish I had insight to your code to realize how it is even possible to randomly create a bug like this.

I have a photo

Don’t fight the other ants
Fight the queens

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Posted by: Konakona.4130

Konakona.4130

Rip my 2 red mastery points for the last silverwastes legendary I’ve been trying to catch for months and finally did today, lol ;__;

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Posted by: Ray Koopa.2354

Ray Koopa.2354

Oh well, I’m pretty lucky I just lose 60% of Frostgorge Sound completion, a 40 minute work… gonna be more annoying for those who actually finished achievements or got some precursor drops or whatever…

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

Since the patch dropped at Noon EDT, 9a PDT, around 4p GMT/1600 UTC. I would say it will be restored to a state before this.

However the next question I have is will we be getting the previous version of the game or are the servers going to be down until they fixed this version?

We are heroes. This is what we do!

RIP City of Heroes

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Posted by: Razor.9872

Razor.9872

a still prayer to everyone who found their first precursor after over 3 years today and will lose it

i feel your pain

By the Bear…

I can’t even fathom what I would feel like if this happened to me. I really hope this didn’t happen to anyone. The rollback would suck away a huge chunk of their souls.

NSPride <3

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Posted by: TokyoGhost.6492

TokyoGhost.6492

me in current situation be like

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I made so much mistakes that I now make mistakes without mistake.

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Posted by: Balthazzarr.1349

Balthazzarr.1349

Almost 4 years and no precursor… I’m pretty sure it won’t happen anytime soon.. rollback or not

… just call me … Tim :)

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

ZudetGambeous.9573

Can we get a warning before the servers come up? The TP is going to be a kitten show… can we at least all get a fair chance at it?

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Posted by: Balthazzarr.1349

Balthazzarr.1349

Can we get a warning before the servers come up? The TP is going to be a kitten show… can we at least all get a fair chance at it?

lol… a warning… for the few people that are in here? haaa… when they come up it will be a mad dash to get online… and it will be a fair chance all round… although not sure what you want a ‘fair chance’ at…

… just call me … Tim :)

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Posted by: DoctorDing.5890

DoctorDing.5890

I don’t think a rollback is a decision they take lightly. They have acted quickly to limit the damage but there are always going to be some unlucky players who lose something a bit special as a result.

Imagine how much worse it would be if it was a 24 or 48 hour rollback.

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Posted by: Mel.8495

Mel.8495

You better give us at least 800 gems compensation for the inconvenience

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Posted by: Dominik.5162

Dominik.5162

You better give us at least 800 gems compensation for the inconvenience

Stop being greedy, seriously…disgusting

Iliaz
Team Aggression [TA]
Immortal Kingdom [KING]

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Posted by: Behellagh.1468

Behellagh.1468

At least the very least extend the sale for another day … or week.

We are heroes. This is what we do!

RIP City of Heroes

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Posted by: Mel.8495

Mel.8495

You better give us at least 800 gems compensation for the inconvenience

Stop being greedy, seriously…disgusting

We loose over 2 hours of progress and cannot play the game all evening

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

You better give us at least 800 gems compensation for the inconvenience

Seriously? A working game is all the compensation you need for this. I cannot stand how entitled some people in gaming communities are. Its unreal

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Posted by: Dominik.5162

Dominik.5162

You better give us at least 800 gems compensation for the inconvenience

Stop being greedy, seriously…disgusting

We loose over 2 hours of progress and cannot play the game all evening

omg wooow such pain, please stop acting like a child.

Iliaz
Team Aggression [TA]
Immortal Kingdom [KING]

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Posted by: Mel.8495

Mel.8495

You better give us at least 800 gems compensation for the inconvenience

Seriously? A working game is all the compensation you need for this. I cannot stand how entitled some people in gaming communities are. Its unreal

The game worked fine for me, I dont care about exotic items

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Posted by: summer.4530

summer.4530

I wonder what does “this morning” means.

This “morning”, I made some lucky significant sales around 300g, cleared fresh Tangled Depths and Dragon’s Stand for a new toon.

Hope I dont need to do that one more time.

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Posted by: Model No.3461

Model No.3461

You better give us at least 800 gems compensation for the inconvenience

Stop being greedy, seriously…disgusting

We loose over 2 hours of progress and cannot play the game all evening

See, at first I was going to defend you, say that it was clearly a joke. But no, you’re seriously being that entitled. Wow.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Posted by: Cascabel.5806

Cascabel.5806

At this point, all the compensation I need is a hug…

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

Straegen.2938

Understand the technical issue but surprised the drive system doesn’t use snapshot volumes.

We snapshot just before an install, run and if there is a problem restore the release snapshot which typically takes a few seconds. Course a good snapshot system like NetApp or EQLogic isn’t cheap.

Sarcasm For Hire [SFH]
“Youre lips are movin and youre complaining about something thats wingeing.”

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Posted by: Frenzify.6832

Frenzify.6832

I demand one million gold!

But in all seriousness, I don’t really care much about compensation, but for people who lost some pretty valuable content, like ultra rare drops, or whatever, then I’d say some form of compensation is only fair, for them, at least.

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Posted by: Berelious.3290

Berelious.3290

We love you ANet!!!

Corwin Grimjaw: Guardian (80)
Yak’s Bend Server
Crimethink [ct]

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Posted by: Styxx.1564

Styxx.1564

You better give us at least 800 gems compensation for the inconvenience

Stop being greedy, seriously…disgusting

We loose over 2 hours of progress and cannot play the game all evening

Oh my god!!
Wars have been started for less than this!!! OUTRAGE!

You lost 2 hours of progress, you gained a few extra hours of stuff you can do in life. It’s ok, you’ll survive.

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Posted by: DoctorDing.5890

DoctorDing.5890

At this point, all the compensation I need is a hug…

Even though I know nothing of your age, gender or, ahem, preferences, I’m sending you a big fat hairy man-hug. I may even slap you on the back. No hair stroking though. That would be too weird.

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Posted by: Palador.2170

Palador.2170

Since the patch dropped at Noon EDT, 9a PDT, around 4p GMT/1600 UTC. I would say it will be restored to a state before this.

However the next question I have is will we be getting the previous version of the game or are the servers going to be down until they fixed this version?

Down until they’ve fixed this version, I believe. There was something new on the gemstore to buy, and some people got the mini Garm before the shutdown. To avoid conflict between gemstore data and main game data (the fact that it will remember if you bought gems tells me there’s different data sets there), there has to have been something for you to buy. Letting the game think you’ve purchased something that doesn’t exist might create even more problems.

Sarcasm, delivered with a
delicate, brick-like subtlety.

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

MithranArkanere.8957

Total Rollbacks since first release, counting those of Guild Wars 1:

  • 2.

Still not too high, compared with other things I’ve seen.

SUGGEST-A-TRON says:
PAY—ONCE—UNLOCKS—ARE—ALWAYS—BETTER.
No exceptions!

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Posted by: Mel.8495

Mel.8495

You better give us at least 800 gems compensation for the inconvenience

Stop being greedy, seriously…disgusting

We loose over 2 hours of progress and cannot play the game all evening

Oh my god!!
Wars have been started for less than this!!! OUTRAGE!

You lost 2 hours of progress, you gained a few extra hours of stuff you can do in life. It’s ok, you’ll survive.

I cant spend it otherwise because I need to be glued to the screen to profit from trading post when servers are back up

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Posted by: Phoebe Ascension.8437

Phoebe Ascension.8437

Hmm i farmed 200 hard wood logs for legendary, guess i’l gotta refarm those spirit wood planks require for Astralaria I.

And if rollback doens succeed within 2 hour 13 min, European people will have lost all ability to do daily stuff (home instance farm, Converter use, mawdrey, daily ap (2g)), while not a disaster, this feels a bit of let down.

Wouldn’t feel bad that everyone who’s affected by rollback (or maybe everyone), gets a compensation (like at least 2g, wich = what almost everyone gets by doing the daily).

Legendary weapons can be hidden now!
No excuse anymore for not giving ‘hide mounts’-option
No thanks to unidentified weapons.

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Posted by: Cascabel.5806

Cascabel.5806

At this point, all the compensation I need is a hug…

Even though I know nothing of your age, gender or, ahem, preferences, I’m sending you a big fat hairy man-hug. I may even slap you on the back. No hair stroking though. That would be too weird.

Thanks man, mucho appreciados.

Now we just wait I guess.