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Posted by: Josa.5067

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The male charr player character appearently has a new voice actor, in the new raid wing.

The new voice doesn’t really seem that bad, but it would still be nice to know if the old voice actor is coming back.

Or maybe the voice is just missing some of the usual filters/whatever they are…?

But still… What happened to the old voice? Is this new voice going to stay?

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Posted by: TokyoGhost.6492

TokyoGhost.6492

I don’t think many players care about charrs. Most of us are playing Humans, eventually Norns or Sylvaris. Playerbase that plays asuras and charrs is too low to care imo lol

I even didn’t notice change in voice :P

I made so much mistakes that I now make mistakes without mistake.

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Posted by: Zedek.8932

Zedek.8932

What are you talking about? Cats, pardon, Charr are everywhere.
And about Asura.. not everybody can be special..

Zedexx, sly Asura Thief/Assassin
and politically highly incorrect. (#Asuracist)
“We [Asura] are the concentrated magnificence!”

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Posted by: Kiwicharr.8051

Kiwicharr.8051

I was trying out the new raid wing and was surprised and confused when i heard my Male charr player character speak. Was the voice actor for him unavailable for this project or has he been recast? I’m guessing that maybe the voice over lines were maybe not recorded properly?
Its odd because the new dialogue that was added with the current events seems to sound exactly the same as it should ( and i love that you added situational dialogue by the way)

I hope you haven’t recast the voice actor because the male player charr voice is really good!

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Posted by: Changer the Elder.2948

Changer the Elder.2948

I entered stronghold of the faithful on my male charr main and got kicked in the ears. Either there’s a change in voice actor, or there’s something wrong with audiomixing. I sound sluggish, am hard to understand and it sounds like someone leaned far enough on the drop trebble toggle to the point of falling asleep on it and accidentally producing the results.

Seriously, I sound like an orc. That’s gutting my main charr and half my character roster. Females seem to be fine, but males sound like a schizophrenic when they pop normal battlequip (boon) with a completely different voice in the middle of a SotF dialogue.

I know charr don’t really get patch support, so I don’t really hope for a fix, but could someone please come down and explain what it is? Bug? Feature? Change you just didn’t think anybody would notice? What?

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Posted by: Changer the Elder.2948

Changer the Elder.2948

Well, nice and dandy the topics got merged, so I know I’m not alone who noticed and I’m not hallucinating, but could someone from the staff also tell us what happened?

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Posted by: flynlocke.9165

flynlocke.9165

Yeah. I know it’s a rather an unimportant matter I guess but I miss Ron Yuan’s voice. :\

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Posted by: Lasur Arkinshade.4107

Lasur Arkinshade.4107

Bobby Stein, one of the writing leads on GW2 and the main guy in charge of writing/voiceover stuff on raids, responded to this issue on the Guild Wars 2 subreddit, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4sr997/has_the_voice_actor_for_the_male_charr_player/d5c5vlu?context=3

Given that he’s pointing us to some news that’ll be coming out soon rather than just saying “don’t worry, guys, it’s still Ron Yuan”… I’m assuming it is the case that the male charr has been recast.

Assuming he has been recast, it doesn’t entirely surprise me – Ron Yuan is an actor, as far as I can tell, whose main preserve is film acting. He also dabbles in filmmaking and seems to work both in the US and in China. I imagine it might be somewhere between difficult and impossible to arrange VO sessions with him on a basis that’s regular enough for living world releases. I imagine if ArenaNet were limiting player VO to the core game and expansions, leaving the PC silent in living world stuff, they probably would have been able to stick with Ron Yuan.

It’s a real shame, because I loved my male charr’s voice and got very accustomed to it over the past better-part-of-four-years – Ron did a great job with it – but if he simply isn’t available consistently enough for live content, I guess that’s the way it is.

If he has been recast, though, I hope ArenaNet will do it properly – by which I mean going back and rerecording all the existing male charr VO with the new actor. It would be absolutely abysmal if we ended up with a situation whereby all the PC voices remain consistent from the opening cutscene all the way to LW season 3 except the male charr, meaning anyone who plays a male charr essentially has to endure their character’s voice switching between two different actors depending on what content they’re playing.

If ArenaNet have had to make the decision to recast the male charr, I really hope they’ve done it right – ensuring that the new actor is just as good as Ron Yuan while also being available consistently enough to prevent them from having to recast it again – and also ensuring that all the Ron Yuan dialogue, as good as it is, gets replaced to ensure consistency. I love ArenaNet, I love Bobby and I love the writing team and the audio team, but anything less would be a real kick in the teeth to anyone who plays male charr and is also interested in the story/narrative.

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Posted by: Seabreeze.8437

Seabreeze.8437

Im not a raider yet, but I’m curious now. Does anyone have a video link that lets us hear this new voice? Given the posts on this thread, it sounds like you can really tell that it’s a new voice actor playing the male charr.

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Posted by: Kossage.9072

Kossage.9072

Here’s a video clip I found with the male charr’s dialogue from the beginning of the Stronghold of the Faithful raid wing for those who are curious. You can also hear it for yourself if you make a squad with you as a sole member and then enter Stronghold of the Faithful through the raid portal in LA Aerodrome (or the one in Verdant Brink if you so desire).

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Posted by: Donari.5237

Donari.5237

Aww. That’s missing the deep growl/snarl component that makes player charr sound kin to Rytlock. He sounds more like the Whispers charr from early charr PS.

It certainly is noticeably different. Perhaps it will fall more into line with some players’ head canon for their characters, but the loss of the growling rasp saddens me as Yuan’s interpretation is just right for my revenant. Otoh I don’t actually play my rev at this point.

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Posted by: Lasur Arkinshade.4107

Lasur Arkinshade.4107

Aww. That’s missing the deep growl/snarl component that makes player charr sound kin to Rytlock. He sounds more like the Whispers charr from early charr PS.

It certainly is noticeably different. Perhaps it will fall more into line with some players’ head canon for their characters, but the loss of the growling rasp saddens me as Yuan’s interpretation is just right for my revenant. Otoh I don’t actually play my rev at this point.

It is certainly noticeably different, and yes, the voice does kind of remind me of Korukhan the Blacksmith from early Whispers story (voiced by Neil Kaplan, a really awesome voice actor, for what it’s worth), although the wing 3 male charr doesn’t really sound like Neil. I’m still trying to figure out who I think’s voicing these wing 3 lines – I tend to be overly nerdy about voice actors and can normally name the most prolific game voice actors just from hearing their voice, but I’m drawing a blank here. It sounds kind of like it might be a heavily pitch-shifted Matthew Mercer, but he’s been the male norn since launch… it also sounds a little bit like Sam Riegel at points, but Sam Riegel plays Braham and a whole bucketload of NPCs throughout the game, and I assume that, if they have to replace the male charr VA for some reason, they’re not going to add insult to injury by replacing him with one of their most prolific and recognisable NPC voice actors. Some part of me thinks the new voice might be Lex Lang or Peter Jessop, since the writers did mention on Twitter that they’d added them to the voice cast a few months ago. I guess we’ll wait and see.

All of this said – I do still hope, perhaps in vain, that the ‘news’ Bobby was referring to is that Ron Yuan is being temporarily replaced as the male charr due to some scheduling issue, rather than him being replaced outright. My charr thief has been my main ever since the very first minute of headstart and I’ve grown attached to his voice.

Still – if ArenaNet are replacing the male charr VA I think it’s safe to assume that they’ve essentially had no other choice to do so. Their commitment to voice continuity in GW2 went so far as to get Felicia Day back into the studio to record somewhere around 10 lines for the final episode of season 2 and the penultimate Heart of Thorns story step – and she’s no doubt an incredibly hard – and expensive – actress to get a hold of.

Ron Yuan, we have to remember, is an actor who happens to do voice work. His entire acting career isn’t built around voice work the way Nolan North or Matthew Mercer’s careers are. He does on-screen acting work for films shot both in the US and in China and he himself is a filmmaker. It does seem – sadly – quite plausible that ArenaNet just couldn’t book sessions with him for Stronghold of the Faithful – in which case they may book a session with him once he is available again… or they may simply recast the male charr, permanently, to someone for whom voice acting is at the forefront of their career, since careers in game voiceover tend to live or die based upon how available you make yourself and how easy it is to book consistent sessions with you.

…if ArenaNet are truly going to recast the male charr, though, they really do need to go out of their way to handle it properly. It’s a fairly big transition that is going to irritate or bemuse quite a few people who main a male charr, and it’s also going to cause a lot of jarring moments depending on how they do it – imagine, for example, your character yelling out story dialogue in the ‘new’ voice while receiving a boon and yelling out in Ron Yuan’s old charr voice, or, vice-versa, imagine going back to ‘old’ content and suddenly hearing your charr speak with Ron Yuan’s voice for a story step/map event before receiving a boon and suddenly hearing rerecorded versions of Ron Yuan’s old lines.

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Posted by: Donari.5237

Donari.5237

Confirmed https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/meet-the-new-voice-of-the-male-charr-player-character/

But nothing in there says how they will blend the voice acting. Do we keep the deep growl voice for lines already recorded? Or is everything male charr getting re-recorded?

Going back and forth could be as jarring as “Thanks for pitching in.”

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Posted by: Changer the Elder.2948

Changer the Elder.2948

Well, for now at least, it’s a jarring difference. Every time I’m in wing 3 of the raid, I pray it will be someone else on the team to get voice quips, because it is around the same level of “Thanks for pitching in.”

Which is frankly annoying as hell.

It’s hardly the new VA’s fault and when schedules are kitteny, there’s not much to do about it; all I can judge is the final result and that result currently butchers my main character, resulting in a rather unhappy me. And this being the charr and ANet having a horrible track record fixing virtually anything on the charr, I’ll just keep my skeptic hat and say that we’re not getting fully re-recorded lines any time soon, if ever.

… so muting the sound on LS3 it is.

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Posted by: AllNightPlayer.1286

AllNightPlayer.1286

Will the new voice actor retrospectively record the “old” voice overs?
It would be a better idea to leave the old provided voice overs untouched. It would also honour the predecessor, who did a great job.

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Posted by: Sindex.9520

Sindex.9520

Yeah, this is something that happens periodically from time to time, with having voice actors in certain major roles. I’m actually surprised it did not happen sooner. Though I have noticed when certain voice actors do come back and don’t have the same tempo they had when they first delivered their lines. Faolain voice actress had this problem. However I originally dismiss it in season 2 because it was suppose to be a younger version.

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Posted by: Chasind.3128

Chasind.3128

Now all they need to do is revoice the norn female! bc her voice sounds like crap.