Guild Wars 2

Were these arbitrarily chosen by the devs? Did they categorize them according to which colors they personally thought were prettier? Or are there special properties in the rarer dyes that I don’t know about?

I’ve unlocked one dye and decided not to unlock any others after I realized that it was character bound. So as a result I’m pretty lost about the dye system. Do you guys use your dyes or save them for the Mystic Forge?

The darker/purer of color the dye, the rarer it gets.

Some of the rarer dyes have a different appearance on different types of textures.

Take my light armor wearing mesmer for instance.

Midnight fire is a “rare” tier dye… on cloth I just looks very very black (with perhaps the slightest overall tinge of red)… but on the bits of armor that are a leather texture you see a very nice burnished red leather look that fades from a nice red out to black. It’s really very cool and a nice way to use a dye to spice up her look because it isn’t a flat one tone color.

You have to experiment… some dyes look really cool on metallic textures… some look interesting on leather… I haven’t found any yet that do much for cloth bits, but I haven’t opened up a lot of the higher tier dyes yet either.

Oh and don’t use the price of the dye on the TP as an indication. Whites and Blacks are always the most expensive/desired in a game… I have Celestial unlocked on my mesmer… I think it sucks, haven’t found a piece of armor yet that it doesn’t entirely wash out and destroy most of the detail work. But it sells for mondo cash because it is perceived as the purest of the pure whites.

In the pic I attached you can see on her backside is an area where the color almost looks like really deep dark crushed velvet. That’s midnight fire. In the vertical strips on her arms and back you can see how it highlights the leather texture. And notice that super black area on the bottom? That’s midnight fire on cloth… just very black… but the brown inside the strips of white is also midnight fire. Different armor textures react differently to different dyes.

schizandra.4587:

Were these arbitrarily chosen by the devs?

Yes. Basic colors (that everyone would actually want) like white and black are rare., yet all manner of other colors can be found in the common category.

C’mon now. White and black are rare colors? Since when have those ever been rare for anything? I can walk to the nearest intersection and, in the span of 5 minutes, see more white and black cars than I count. They’re rare in GW2 for essentially no other reason than to make players pay for them in one form or another,

Babychoochoo.5690:

schizandra.4587:

Were these arbitrarily chosen by the devs?

Yes. Basic colors (that everyone would actually want) like white and black are rare., yet all manner of other colors can be found in the common category.

C’mon now. White and black are rare colors? Since when have those ever been rare for anything? I can walk to the nearest intersection and, in the span of 5 minutes, see more white and black cars than I count. They’re rare in GW2 for essentially no other reason than to make players pay for them in one form or another,

White and Black dyes in Aion were also very rare/expensive. Must be an mmo thing heh

Geotherma.2395:

Babychoochoo.5690:

schizandra.4587:

Were these arbitrarily chosen by the devs?

Yes. Basic colors (that everyone would actually want) like white and black are rare., yet all manner of other colors can be found in the common category.

C’mon now. White and black are rare colors? Since when have those ever been rare for anything? I can walk to the nearest intersection and, in the span of 5 minutes, see more white and black cars than I count. They’re rare in GW2 for essentially no other reason than to make players pay for them in one form or another,

White and Black dyes in Aion were also very rare/expensive. Must be an mmo thing heh

They are the most popular colors and therefore are made the most rare.

The rarity of a dye seems to be in inverse proportion to the likelihood of a large number of people actually wanting it. Why they do this in games is anybody’s guess.

lunawisp.2378:

The rarity of a dye seems to be in inverse proportion to the likelihood of a large number of people actually wanting it. Why they do this in games is anybody’s guess.

It’s so that you can get properly excited when a rare drops. Otherwise, you’d get rares that are less desirable than commons, and wouldn’t be interested in getting a rare. On the other hand, systems like Dye don’t really need rarities at all, so there is that.

Geotherma.2395:

White and Black dyes in Aion were also very rare/expensive. Must be an mmo thing heh

… or Guild Wars 1, I am pretty sure white wasn’t even an option in GW1 at launch.

We need to look at this in a real world perspective, and not think about the word “rare” as literally. It means, straight forward, all the “cool/awesome/rad” colors are going to be rare, and worth more. Case in point, look up Celestial and Abyss. See how much they go for on the tp.

I open every dye I get. I just got an abyss this morning in fact. You never know until you try ^__^

All dyes predicted the doom of this game. I barely see any dye drop or being used

Emperor.1360:

By the way, if anyone is wishing to get all of the dyes, the cheapest way to do so is to simply purchase them all on the trading post (set your own prices, do not buy a dye outright). I spent about 50-ish gold a week ago to acquire ALL of the dyes in the game. The only expensive ones are Midnight Ice, Midnight Fire, Abyss, and Celestial. Most of the others are inexpensive.

You can save a lot of money if you do this instead of craft the dyes yourself or play roulette with unidentified dyes.

Hmm 450 gold … nah.
I do this for common dyes.
Never saw a point to crafting dyes.

50-ish gold? I call BS. Abyss is 20-ish, Celestial 13-ish, White/Black 10-ish…might wanna check that math.

Aoshi.4785:

50-ish gold? I call BS. Abyss is 20-ish, Celestial 13-ish, White/Black 10-ish…might wanna check that math.

You must have missed the part where he named his own price instead of buying the lowest seller.

Nothing really makes a dye rare other than the silly people who will pay stupid prices for them..this is the lead cause of price hikes, if no one purchased them, the prices would come down.

Seriously i can make a nice color combo easy and cheaply without ever needing a black or white color..

Crafting dyes is pointless, you need stupid amounts of items to make them kinda like most other crafting in this game, Anet hates crafters in my opinion..

But then again, some folks want the darkest black, the darkest red, the brightest white. Just because you don’t care for them doesn’t mean others won’t. And as long as they do, there will be those selling it to them for a premium. It’s the same in all mmo’s that have dye’s available.

Flamenco.3894:

All dyes predicted the doom of this game. I barely see any dye drop or being used

Funny you say that because my guildies and myself were just talking this morning about how it seemed the dye drop rate had gone up because we were finding more dyes.

One thing I have noticed, both in game and on youtube videos, is play style.

Players run to where they want to go, aggroing stuff, but just keep running until they get to where they want to go. losing aggro on the way and ignoring as many mobs as possible.

You’ll get more drops of everything (not rares/exotics) and not enough drops to craft, but just more drops in general – if you actually kill mobs instead of running and avoiding every mob you can.

It’s weird. I rarely get even one dye in a day, but today I’ve gotten five or six. Most of them were from low-level skritt that I was killing to see if they did drop black lion keys, but I also got a few others from my usual stuff.

I farm events in Orr for about an hour and a half a day, and I usually pull 5-6 dyes. It has indeed gone up recently though, for sure.

Dante.1508:

Nothing really makes a dye rare other than the silly people who will pay stupid prices for them..this is the lead cause of price hikes, if no one purchased them, the prices would come down.

Seriously i can make a nice color combo easy and cheaply without ever needing a black or white color..

Crafting dyes is pointless, you need stupid amounts of items to make them kinda like most other crafting in this game, Anet hates crafters in my opinion..

This isn’t realistically true, thanks to the stupid TP we have. People put a sell order up, and then walk away. Forever. It’s only those very conscious of their market transactions that pay attention. I’ve checked my standing “sell” orders 2 times in the 3 months I have played. I just forget. It’s not like I have 15 copper and need cash right now to portal somewhere. I think a great many people are like that. They see what they can get for something, and they list it, then just forget about it. It’ll sell when it sell’s and I don’t want to pay another 15% fee to re-list it (and playing the 1c undercut game).

The crafting of dye’s is a real pet peeve of mine. How completely stupid is that? The mat’s are completely ridiculous. But, when you see that there is a dye kit in the Store, it all makes sense. Sadly. I wish ANet could figure out how to make money in a better way. Maybe people can buy some kind of ‘booster’ in the Store (or loot with a low RNG chance) that you put into the Mystic Toilet with a crafted dye that will guarantee a rare return.

Abyss is around 20g, because as many have said, it appears to be a deeper version of black.

In Guild Wars 1, White and Black were the classic spense dyes, with black running about 10plat on average (which is near the 10gold it hovers around here). Quite a few differences in the dye system, though. In the first game, there were far less colors, they weren’t split up into rarity tiers, you could dye weapons, and each dye drop only affected one item. If you wanted to dye another piece, you had to acquire it again. You could also mix dyes, if you wanted.

Because I don’t think you could buy all the dyes the game has to offer for 50 gold. PERIOD. I hardly think anyone is selling an Abyss on the TP for any “custom price” below 19g. And the same for all the other high priced dyes, no one is going to come down to silvers from gold just because you put in a custom buy order. It’s backwards.

But good for you. Very good for you.

Aoshi, all players use the same tp, all players on all servers.

There will be one that doesn’t care to max their profits.

Alas, I find it highly unlikely. Why put an item on the TP if you weren’t trying to make a profit?

That being said, I will again say very good for Emperor if that is what happened. While I am sill extremely suspect, I will redact my previous statement and offer an “anything can happen” clause, lol.

Aoshi.4785:

Alas, I find it highly unlikely. Why put an item on the TP if you weren’t trying to make a profit?

That being said, I will again say very good for Emperor if that is what happened. While I am sill extremely suspect, I will redact my previous statement and offer an “anything can happen” clause, lol.

Some (a lot?) people prefer to have their money instantly, so they will meet a buy offer instead of posting an item for sale and waiting hours or days. Sure they will lose a little potential profit, but it happens all the time. Nobody said they weren’t making any profit, just not as much as they could if the waited it out.

There are 3 categories in this game

1. Give it away for free
2. NPC or salvage
3. Sell for profit

Guess in which class the black dye falls?

Destroy.

I see what you are saying…I just got an abyss two days ago, and the buy offer was at 19 gold. I put mine up at 22 and still sold it, but that being said…if the standard buy offer is around 19, that is still a large chunk of gold. To me I don’t seeing it coming down too much from that, but stranger things ave happened indeed. Anyways, not o beat a dead horse ^__^