What's happening to GW2?
Funny enough, once you ditch the usual MMO-mindset of MUST-AQUIRE-MORE-STUFF!! and just play for fun, non of these issues have any impact on your game.
I get enough gold for what I need just from playing the game, even have some spare to trade into gems. I have full exotic gear and am now replacing trinkets one by one too. Haven’t farmed a single minute, simply because this game doesn’t require you to.
Work out what you need the gold for – then ask yourself how badly you want it.
If you want it right here, right now, you put some RL cash on the line (which is more than likely less than a standard monthly MMO sub) and purchase the gold.
If you don’t require it this very second, then work towards it and view it as a long term goal.
The game is 3 months old. Anet are a business. They have given us 2 choices – work for it, or RMT it. Fair enough imo considering I don’t have to spend a single penny if I choose not to as there is no sub.
Funny enough, once you ditch the usual MMO-mindset of MUST-AQUIRE-MORE-STUFF!! and just play for fun, non of these issues have any impact on your game.
I get enough gold for what I need just from playing the game, even have some spare to trade into gems. I have full exotic gear and am now replacing trinkets one by one too. Haven’t farmed a single minute, simply because this game doesn’t require you to.
Because you are the average-casual type of gamer. If you think like this that doesn’t mean we all need to think like this.
Probably you say: ’’It’s enough of what I have at the moment’’. Even though what you have is, for example, a sword that everyone else has, an armor that everyone else has etc.
But there are some players like me who want more out of their gaming experience. I want to strive, to compete, to come out in front. To have a 500 gold sword because I love it’s unique look and because I know that only 2 % of the population has it.
To have a cultural Tier 3 armor set because I know I am unique and not looking the same with 90 % of the server population.
And I wanna achieve this bymyself. By grinding. And when I say grinding I am expecting a reward also. And not being cut off from any means of acquiring gold except grabbing my wallet and buying their pathetic gems in order to conver them to gold.
It’s interesting to see the pros/cons of subscriptions vs. free-2-play (regardless of whether you have to buy the game first or not).
Why aren’t you running FotM? The amount of loot per second spent playing is unmatched, and it also helps you get ready for the next ascended gear piece release. Prefarming your infusions is useful for the future, and doing that will also have you make enough gold to get by. It’s a win/win, I would guess.
They’ve said they will add Ascended gear progression to WvW as well, so if you’re a PvPer you just have to be patient for a little while longer. ANet is doing what they can do keep the bots at bay, and it’s pretty obvious that the amount of people interested in open world PvE don’t seem to matter(they can analyze player density for a specific region). So you might want to join a FotM guild to have an easier time getting a group.
Funny enough, once you ditch the usual MMO-mindset of MUST-AQUIRE-MORE-STUFF!! and just play for fun, non of these issues have any impact on your game.
I get enough gold for what I need just from playing the game, even have some spare to trade into gems. I have full exotic gear and am now replacing trinkets one by one too. Haven’t farmed a single minute, simply because this game doesn’t require you to.Because you are the average-casual type of gamer. If you think like this that doesn’t mean we all need to think like this.
Probably you say: ’’It’s enough of what I have at the moment’’. Even though what you have is, for example, a sword that everyone else has, an armor that everyone else has etc.
But there are some players like me who want more out of their gaming experience. I want to strive, to compete, to come out in front. To have a 500 gold sword because I love it’s unique look and because I know that only 2 % of the population has it.
To have a cultural Tier 3 armor set because I know I am unique and not looking the same with 90 % of the server population.
And I wanna achieve this bymyself. By grinding. And when I say grinding I am expecting a reward also. And not being cut off from any means of acquiring gold except grabbing my wallet and buying their pathetic gems in order to conver them to gold.
So you want to grind for an item because you want to be pseudo-unique, yet you don’t want it to be too grindy.
If you take the grind out of the equation, everyone and their dog will have the item by the end of the week.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish here.
casual gamer is just gaming addict talk for normal people. All these addicts savagely demand cookies and treats to keep them playing, while the “casuals” play the game for fun, you know, cause thats the entire point of video games. Play too much and you’ll burn out, no game will fix it
And I wanna achieve this bymyself. By grinding. And when I say grinding I am expecting a reward also. And not being cut off from any means of acquiring gold except grabbing my wallet and buying their pathetic gems in order to conver them to gold.
Are you contending that literally everyone in the game with an expensive weapon skin, cultural armor, or even a legendary has purchased gems?
I mean I can understand a greater emphasis on dungeons and instanced stuff since bots can’t really do these… but by taking these measures, Anet is letting the bots destroy their game; the irony being the whole point of these measures is supposed to stop bots from ruining the game.
The gem of this game was supposed to come more from it’s dynamic open world. Lacking real consequences and the scale of rewards made some events more worthwhile than others…. now the lack of rewards is making the entire open world experience kinda meh.
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guess it’s a matter of perspective, I don’t even have two gold! …. (and I do have 2 level 80’s)
think the most I have ever had was about 6… when I once lucked out and had a White Dye drop…. but I don’t mind. I still enjoy playing with no money and have no intention to work to farm more… if I get some I get some.
guess it’s a matter of perspective, I don’t even have two gold! …. (and I do have 2 level 80’s)
think the most I have ever had was about 6… when I once lucked out and had a White Dye drop…. but I don’t mind. I still enjoy playing with no money and have no intention to work to farm more… if I get some I get some.
Bingo! This is what I like to see and hope to see far more of, on the forums in particular.
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got fully geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
What Naqaj said basically. Its a bad idea to play a game specifically to earn rewards. Its better to just play the game for the fun and use the rewards you get while playing for fun to buy/get what you want.
If you want to sPvP you dont need any gear.
If you want to PvE, Rare gear is enough to easily play any content (with 1g you get a full set so 30 mins of play for OP)
If you want to WvW you also dont need the best gear to be effective imho. Rare or maybe exotic is all you really need and whats more important is you dont need it on day 1.
Simply play whatever you enjoy and once you earn enough buy the stuff you want. No need to change real money into gold, no need to farm if you dont want to.
Its really up to you, the game gives you total freedom including using your real life money to make things easier but it certainly doesnt make you do it.
Let me ask you something OP. if gold was made a lot easier to aquire like you’re suggesting. If you could make say 50g a day easily, you’d buy all the equipement you want in a week? lets exagerate and say you’d finish getting everything in a month, then what will you do?
But there are some players like me who want more out of their gaming experience. I want to strive, to compete, to come out in front. To have a 500 gold sword because I love it’s unique look and because I know that only 2 % of the population has it.
To have a cultural Tier 3 armor set because I know I am unique and not looking the same with 90 % of the server population.
You really don’t see the fallacy in this? If it didn’t require a huge investment either of time or money, it wouldn’t be an item only 2% of the population has.
Exion is right. I remember Anet has spoken about choices. The freedom of choice. No thank you, but I don’t wanna grind FOTM. Maybe I dont like it. So why keep us away from any possible grinding methods?! I mean, its obvious why but it a piece of kitten all what’s happening now.
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got fully geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m confused by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
But there are some players like me who want more out of their gaming experience. I want to strive, to compete, to come out in front. To have a 500 gold sword because I love it’s unique look and because I know that only 2 % of the population has it.
To have a cultural Tier 3 armor set because I know I am unique and not looking the same with 90 % of the server population.
You really don’t see the fallacy in this? If it didn’t require a huge investment either of time or money, it wouldn’t be an item only 2% of the population has.
No. You actually are failing to see my point. What you are trying to tell me is that what Anet did with the drops now is something normal and natural right. You are trying to tell me that the nerfs brought to drop rates are perfectly in place and they should probably nerf the T6 mats drops also.
Even before those nerfs it was still hard to get a specific skin.
I am just speaking about them cutting us any real method of farming gold except playing the TP or farming FOTM.
You are probably right. You don’t need gold to have fun. But I need gold for what I wanna get.
And it’s interesting that most of you who are saying this are the ones that probably run around with 2-3 gold in their bags.
Funny enough, once you ditch the usual MMO-mindset of MUST-AQUIRE-MORE-STUFF!! and just play for fun, non of these issues have any impact on your game.
I get enough gold for what I need just from playing the game, even have some spare to trade into gems. I have full exotic gear and am now replacing trinkets one by one too. Haven’t farmed a single minute, simply because this game doesn’t require you to.Because you are the average-casual type of gamer. If you think like this that doesn’t mean we all need to think like this.
Probably you say: ’’It’s enough of what I have at the moment’’. Even though what you have is, for example, a sword that everyone else has, an armor that everyone else has etc.
But there are some players like me who want more out of their gaming experience. I want to strive, to compete, to come out in front. To have a 500 gold sword because I love it’s unique look and because I know that only 2 % of the population has it.
To have a cultural Tier 3 armor set because I know I am unique and not looking the same with 90 % of the server population.
And I wanna achieve this bymyself. By grinding. And when I say grinding I am expecting a reward also. And not being cut off from any means of acquiring gold except grabbing my wallet and buying their pathetic gems in order to conver them to gold.
How are you cut off from acquiring gold? you ’re not, not in the least, you can continue aquiring gold indefinitely. The game doesnt stop you in any way from doing that.
What you’re talking about is making the gold easier to aquire and that will not solve the problem either.
If gold was easier to aquire, everyone would have more gold but then the price of stuff will simply shoot up. If it takes me 1 hour to farm 1 lodestone for example, If farming regularly earns me say 5g per hour instead of 1g-2g per hour I am not going to sell that lodestone for less then 6g-8g or I will making a loss. That means that all you will end up with if you double the efficiency of making gold is your 500g sword will now cost somewhere in the range of 1000g
Besides the whole point of aquiring that sword that only 2% of the player base has is the effort it takes to aquire that sword and not the sword itself. If gold was made easier to aquire so that an average player made 5g an hour then any player playing for 100 hours can get that sword and then that sword will in a month be owned by everyone. The element that made it meaningful to you is gone.
In the end what makes any of these items unique is you need to be a dedicated player who puts in the effort to aquire the items required. People who pay for gems to get the gold are simply in a way cheating their way to the reward.
FoTm and dungeons are excellent for money making. The gold drop rate in Fractals is really good, so you can TP those or the ecto you salvage from them. And dungeons guarantee 40-50s per run with the 26s reward along with all of the drops.
That’s how I make my money anyways, and my characters are doing pretty well for themselves. Almost have enough for my T3 cultural and commander title (although hackers have seemed to be targeting commanders lately, so I may hold off on that)
I you’re in desperate need of some golds and like puzzles, there’s a forum game going on here that has a gem prize:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/GW2-Theorem-Game/first#post954238
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…the average amount of gold per hour…
This sort of thinking is probably what’s ruining the game for you. I’ve never once viewed any activity in that way. I think of it as: ‘Am I working towards something I want?’ and ‘Am I having fun?’
My turret is so much better at this game than I am.
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got fully geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m confused by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
before arenanet nerfed all drops you could make 20 gold a day off farming events in the cursed shore without getting lucky. if the game would have stayed like that, i believe i would have made even more than 800g in 3 months.
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Huh, I completed half my set with gold I made off farming in southsun and fract drops/rewards. The rest I brought off the karma vendors.
Haven’t you noticed how much easier karma is to obtain now than it was at the start? You can make 10k+ karma every 10th lvl now from start – That would have been IMPOSSIBLE post-launch – Unless you stay forever in one zone and farm but who is THAT boring?
If a newbie were to start today and take his due time exploring content he’d have 80-100k karma at endgame – Enough to buy two piece of exotic gear. And it’s not like there is that many points difference between green and orange anyways – Definetly not like in WoW.
…the average amount of gold per hour…
This sort of thinking is probably what’s ruining the game for you. I’ve never once viewed any activity in that way. I think of it as: ‘Am I working towards something I want?’ and ‘Am I having fun?’
The game isn’t getting ruined for me actually, i still enjoy the game quiet a lot, i just don’t like how the whole gold system is curropted. people keep saying do fotm if you want gold but sadly i hate that dungeon. about that quote in the end, it seems you’ve read only one sentence of what i posted.
Is funny to read all this ranting and qq’ing.
Clearly you people dont even know what you want. Then you could farm for something easily you braged about GW2 not beeing GW1 there items ment nothing, then it become hard to get stuff you brag about how hard it is to get.. so what the hell do you want really?
All this ’ they nerfed drop rates, its so hard to get shiny flamming sword now ’ .. if you are here for colors go play korean mmorpgs , they have plenty of flames and colors.
Just by casually running AC i got enough tokens for lvl 80 weapon and i even didint farm it yet . By the time you hit 80 you also have good amount of karma and gold so you are almost insta-geared at the moment you need that gear . If you want rare , more special armor… work for it !
GuildWars 2 is good game with bad management.
Lol, 2g per hour? :o That’s alot, I’ve been playing from 3rd week after release and I’m sitting at 6g atm. And I think that’s much because I’ve no idea what to spend it on. Take my advice and just play for fun, you don’t need all the legendaries and top gear, I’m doing just fine with rares/couple exotics. They were all drops too, I’ve never spend a single copper for my equip. :*
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got fully geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m confused by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
before arenanet nerfed all drops you could make 20 gold a day off farming events in the cursed shore without getting lucky. if the game would have stayed like that, i believe i would have made even more than 800g in 3 months.
Seems to me that 20g a day was seriously imbalanced. I’m glad they nerfed it. Else everyone would be loaded, and the market prices would simply increase anyway.
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got fully geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m confused by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
before arenanet nerfed all drops you could make 20 gold a day off farming events in the cursed shore without getting lucky. if the game would have stayed like that, i believe i would have made even more than 800g in 3 months.
Seems to me that 20g a day was seriously imbalanced. I’m glad they nerfed it. Else everyone would be loaded, and the market prices would simply increase anyway.
is not imbalanced is just a way to farm, having to play with TP to get gold is just awful the other option is to buy gems which some people cant, but so many can, so wouldnt done anything to anet bussiness, the people who used to farm and saw ‘’you are not allowed to farm’’ and ‘’all the profit ways you find arent as intended’’ already left the game by like 99% of them.
I took an arrow to the knee
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got fully geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m confused by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
before arenanet nerfed all drops you could make 20 gold a day off farming events in the cursed shore without getting lucky. if the game would have stayed like that, i believe i would have made even more than 800g in 3 months.
Seems to me that 20g a day was seriously imbalanced. I’m glad they nerfed it. Else everyone would be loaded, and the market prices would simply increase anyway.
is not imbalanced is just a way to farm, having to play with TP to get gold is just awful the other option is to buy gems which some people cant, but so many can, so wouldnt done anything to anet bussiness, the people who used to farm and saw ‘’you are not allowed to farm’’ and ‘’all the profit ways you find arent as intended’’ already left the game by like 99% of them.
Except you don’t have to play the TP at all. You can chill out and play the game and just go with the flow – or you can stand around the TP til you have a mountain of gold, blow it all then have nothing else to drive you forwards as playing the game wasn’t appealing enough anyway.
The thing is, some of us cant dedicate the time needed to farm dungeons. 3 screaming kids in the house and a 60 hr a week job means I can’t spend that amount of uninterrupted time glued to a keyboard. At release at least I felt I could get some progression just playing casually, catch up with the power grinders and compete on a relatively lvl playing field.
Now I have an 80 (he’s only 3 wks old) Ilve hit the wall. Open world has just become a giant pita, hours of gaming for little reward and no progression. I can’t even get through Malchors Leap with all the bugs and randomly spawning mobs. Between WP and repair costs I’m hemmoraging gold at a frightening rate.
I’m down to playing an hour a week now and soon I’ll be gone. the fact that Ilm still here, surfing the forums and looking for answers should show you how much I actually enjoyed my gameplay at release. I’ve come to the conclusion that GW2 is no longer a casual PvErs game. Go HC dungeon grinder or FOB2WoW ? Because thats all I’m hearing from Anet and the community.
The thing is, some of us cant dedicate the time needed to farm dungeons. 3 screaming kids in the house and a 60 hr a week job means I can’t spend that amount of uninterrupted time glued to a keyboard. At release at least I felt I could get some progression just playing casually, catch up with the power grinders and compete on a relatively lvl playing field.
Now I have an 80 (he’s only 3 wks old) Ilve hit the wall. Open world has just become a giant pita, hours of gaming for little reward and no progression. I can’t even get through Malchors Leap with all the bugs and randomly spawning mobs. Between WP and repair costs I’m hemmoraging gold at a frightening rate.
I’m down to playing an hour a week now and soon I’ll be gone. the fact that Ilm still here, surfing the forums and looking for answers should show you how much I actually enjoyed my gameplay at release. I’ve come to the conclusion that GW2 is no longer a casual PvErs game. Go HC dungeon grinder or FOB2WoW ? Because thats all I’m hearing from Anet and the community.
What goal have you set that requires you to keep up with anybody though? I work hard during the week, have a couple of days off where I come on the forums while playing GW2, but apart from that I probably have 1-2 hours a day. Serious question, as the game will still be here and whatever you are working towards will still be here.
If it is gold you are grinding, then just purchase some if you feel you don’t have the time for it. It’s not a crime, in fact, you are helping Anet keep content flowing.
I have no goals apart frm progresaion and persomal enjoyment, and I was getting that at release. No2 that the game has changed my level of enjoyment has fallen through the floor.
I have no objection to paying for gems, in fact I have been since release. 10-15 bucks a month just to show my appreciation. I’ve bought bank slots, armor skins and even a few BL keys during Halloween. But I did that because I wanted too, not because I had too.
Since the infamous stealth nerf I’ve decided Anet wont get another cent from this fat wallet. I will NOT be nickel and dimex on a game I’ve already paid for.
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got fully geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m confused by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
before arenanet nerfed all drops you could make 20 gold a day off farming events in the cursed shore without getting lucky. if the game would have stayed like that, i believe i would have made even more than 800g in 3 months.
Seems to me that 20g a day was seriously imbalanced. I’m glad they nerfed it. Else everyone would be loaded, and the market prices would simply increase anyway.
is not imbalanced is just a way to farm, having to play with TP to get gold is just awful the other option is to buy gems which some people cant, but so many can, so wouldnt done anything to anet bussiness, the people who used to farm and saw ‘’you are not allowed to farm’’ and ‘’all the profit ways you find arent as intended’’ already left the game by like 99% of them.
Except you don’t have to play the TP at all. You can chill out and play the game and just go with the flow – or you can stand around the TP til you have a mountain of gold, blow it all then have nothing else to drive you forwards as playing the game wasn’t appealing enough anyway.
that doesnt even make sense…you are saying everyone must have the same ammount of gold or everyone must do the same as you for farm gold…if you think 20g a day was 1 hr log in you are so wrong so wrong, in a game where you require to to farm, you must let the players decide how to farm, not tell them ‘’you are not allowed’’ ‘’this wasnt as intended’’ could be once, but everytime a method was found…lol. Some people dont come to cry to forums, they just leave, they dont care if you make 1 g or 100 g day, they care about how much they make.
I took an arrow to the knee
Yeah… I’m one of those players that run around with 2-3 gold… and nothing deposited in the bank. It doesn’t bother me because I don’t need “instant” gratification… I play to play, not to get mad lewtz. I have a full set of exotics including 3 exo weapons, all of them named exos, not just “knights” or “rampagers”… I’ve only been in the game for about a month and a half… I don’t play 8 hours a day, I haven’t bought any gems and I’m only lvl 6 on the fractals. I don’t hardcore farm anything… go to a map and work on completion… I go to my favorite spots to get T6 mats and spend 30 min or so in each one then be off… run a dungeon or two if I can find a pug…
I also play wvw and keg brawl (when I can find someone to play with)… I’ve made plenty of money just playing, no grind required. To be exact… each piece of my named exo armor cost around 5-6 gold a piece, I also have 2 named staves, a named sword, a named focus, and a named trident.
The process is simple… I’m working on my second set of armor now… I research HOW to get that piece… if it is craftable I work on getting the mats needed by playing in areas that drop those mats… if it drops from a particular event I make sure to play that event at least once a day. The loot isn’t the point, the play is.
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got fully geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m confused by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
before arenanet nerfed all drops you could make 20 gold a day off farming events in the cursed shore without getting lucky. if the game would have stayed like that, i believe i would have made even more than 800g in 3 months.
Seems to me that 20g a day was seriously imbalanced. I’m glad they nerfed it. Else everyone would be loaded, and the market prices would simply increase anyway.
lol so now that it’s 4g per day you think it’s balanced?
Yeah… I’m one of those players that run around with 2-3 gold… and nothing deposited in the bank. It doesn’t bother me because I don’t need “instant” gratification… I play to play, not to get mad lewtz. I have a full set of exotics including 3 exo weapons, all of them named exos, not just “knights” or “rampagers”… I’ve only been in the game for about a month and a half… I don’t play 8 hours a day, I haven’t bought any gems and I’m only lvl 6 on the fractals. I don’t hardcore farm anything… go to a map and work on completion… I go to my favorite spots to get T6 mats and spend 30 min or so in each one then be off… run a dungeon or two if I can find a pug…
I also play wvw and keg brawl (when I can find someone to play with)… I’ve made plenty of money just playing, no grind required. To be exact… each piece of my named exo armor cost around 5-6 gold a piece, I also have 2 named staves, a named sword, a named focus, and a named trident.
The process is simple… I’m working on my second set of armor now… I research HOW to get that piece… if it is craftable I work on getting the mats needed by playing in areas that drop those mats… if it drops from a particular event I make sure to play that event at least once a day. The loot isn’t the point, the play is.
^wisdom dripping from every word.
That “500g” sword is only 500g because of how much g is in the economy. If they roll things back to how it was, and people start making money out their behinds, that sword will go from 500 to 700 to 1000. Nothing will change except for your purchasing power. Over time, more of the swords will become available as people play and craft them, and that will lower their price.
But in this case, you will no longer be the 2% of players who own it – you will be the 10%.
That’s what happens. Craftables do not retain their rarity status over time. And injecting more gold into the economy won’t slow down or speed up that process. Upping the drop rates for mats will speed up that process. Personally, I’m all for higher drop rates, but don’t delude yourself to thinking that if such a thing happens, that the rare pieces will still have that coveted rare value. Then people, perhaps even those such as OP, will start crying that the weapons are too easy to get and now everyone has one.
guess it’s a matter of perspective, I don’t even have two gold! …. (and I do have 2 level 80’s)
think the most I have ever had was about 6… when I once lucked out and had a White Dye drop…. but I don’t mind. I still enjoy playing with no money and have no intention to work to farm more… if I get some I get some.
This sounds more like you’re just bad with gold mate. Run a few dungeons every few days, sell a few things on TP, loot a few things and sell em. Don’t spend the money willy nilly, you can make 20g per week just like that.
and to everyone who is saying just chill and make money while playing the game, I got already 100% exo geared in just 2 weeks without even trying. so all that’s left for me is get a legendary, which ill need to pay around 800g which would have been straight out impossible to get out farming mobs.
and to everyone who is saying just chill and make money while playing the game, I got already 100% exo geared in just 2 weeks without even trying. so all that’s left for me is get a legendary, which ill need to pay around 800g which would have been straight out impossible to get out farming mobs.
You keep using this word…I do not think it means what you think it means.
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got fully geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m confused by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
before arenanet nerfed all drops you could make 20 gold a day off farming events in the cursed shore without getting lucky. if the game would have stayed like that, i believe i would have made even more than 800g in 3 months.
Seems to me that 20g a day was seriously imbalanced. I’m glad they nerfed it. Else everyone would be loaded, and the market prices would simply increase anyway.
lol so now that it’s 4g per day you think it’s balanced?
It baffles me as to how you think 4g a day isn’t balanced.
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got kittenlly geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m conkittensed by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
before arenanet nerfed all drops you could make 20 gold a day off farming events in the cursed shore without getting lucky. if the game would have stayed like that, i believe i would have made even more than 800g in 3 months.
Seems to me that 20g a day was seriously imbalanced. I’m glad they nerfed it. Else everyone would be loaded, and the market prices would simply increase anyway.
lol so now that it’s 4g per day you think it’s balanced?
It baffles me as to how you think 4g a day isn’t balanced.
let’s do some math here. dusk costs 300g, if i would farm DE and mobs to get that gold, it would take exactly 75 days just for only that component. oh and when i said 4g i meant 4g in 12 hours of non stop farming.
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got kittenlly geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m conkittensed by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
before arenanet nerfed all drops you could make 20 gold a day off farming events in the cursed shore without getting lucky. if the game would have stayed like that, i believe i would have made even more than 800g in 3 months.
Seems to me that 20g a day was seriously imbalanced. I’m glad they nerfed it. Else everyone would be loaded, and the market prices would simply increase anyway.
is not imbalanced is just a way to farm, having to play with TP to get gold is just awkittenl the other option is to buy gems which some people cant, but so many can, so wouldnt done anything to anet bussiness, the people who used to farm and saw ‘’you are not allowed to farm’’ and ‘’all the profit ways you find arent as intended’’ already left the game by like 99% of them.
Except you don’t have to play the TP at all. You can chill out and play the game and just go with the flow – or you can stand around the TP til you have a mountain of gold, blow it all then have nothing else to drive you forwards as playing the game wasn’t appealing enough anyway.
that doesnt even make sense…you are saying everyone must have the same ammount of gold or everyone must do the same as you for farm gold…if you think 20g a day was 1 hr log in you are so wrong so wrong, in a game where you require to to farm, you must let the players decide how to farm, not tell them ‘’you are not allowed’’ ‘’this wasnt as intended’’ could be once, but everytime a method was found…lol. Some people dont come to cry to forums, they just leave, they dont care if you make 1 g or 100 g day, they care about how much they make.
First off, there is no requirement to grind/farm. Let’s get that out of the way.
There is no content that is gated to the degree where players have to farm or grind. It’s that simple.
GW2 allows players to farm as much as they like, if they perceive a goal as a ‘must have right now’. However, they have put a DR mechanic in place to thwart bots. Players can still get gold through pretty much any avenue in the game. GW2 is not putting a gun to their head and forcing them to grind a 20ft square area in a L80 zone.
I have plenty of cash, I have bought everything that I want at the moment, and I have not once farmed for any of it.
And no of course I’m not saying everyone should have the same amount of gold – that’s ridiculous and not sure how you got that from my post – i’m stating, quite simply, that what you think you need, is not what the game requires of you.
So grind away for the gold, that’s fine. But to come here and say that it’s too hard to amass vast quantities of gold from doing one activity endlessly for your own short-term goal is selfish at best.
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got kittenlly geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m conkittensed by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
before arenanet nerfed all drops you could make 20 gold a day off farming events in the cursed shore without getting lucky. if the game would have stayed like that, i believe i would have made even more than 800g in 3 months.
Seems to me that 20g a day was seriously imbalanced. I’m glad they nerfed it. Else everyone would be loaded, and the market prices would simply increase anyway.
lol so now that it’s 4g per day you think it’s balanced?
It baffles me as to how you think 4g a day isn’t balanced.
let’s do some math here. dusk costs 300g, if i would farm DE and mobs to get that gold, it would take exactly 75 days just for only that component. oh and when i said 4g i meant 4g in 12 hours of non stop farming.
This is the disconnect. You want the precursor as soon as possible. I do not. It could take a year as far as i’m concerned.
If players were making tons more cash, the precursor price would also skyrocket on the TP. It’s almost irrelevant how much we make, but it’s more important to keep players on a steady enough keel and not have dedicated farmers dominating the market.
And yes regarding the 4g a day I was also talking about dedicated farmers.
kittennny enough, once you ditch the usual MMO-mindset of MUST-AQUIRE-MORE-STUFF!! and just play for kittenn, non of these issues have any impact on your game.
I get enough gold for what I need just from playing the game, even have some spare to trade into gems. I have kittenll exotic gear and am now replacing trinkets one by one too. Haven’t farmed a single minute, simply because this game doesn’t require you to.
That’s great for people who started before this patch was put in that added DR, lower drops etc but for new players and people trying to build their alts, yeah it’s not there anymore
And it would really help of people would support the restoration of the loot by supporting your fellow players before everyone leaves this game because of the horrendous drops because you do want this to be a successkittenl game right? Well forcing people to go to the store to buy gems for gold isn’t going to make it successkittenl people WILL leave because of it.
It happened to D3 60% of their players went poof because they took out rewards for time, they took away good drops from farming, and everything was about buying things with RL money. Guess what it happened to them it can happen to GW2 as well. and it has started already.
I and many like me will not log back in until they fix this issue, no more buying things from the store until they remove DR restore drops, restore the drop rates of globs of ecto because there’s nothing worse then a game that doesn’t reward, it becomes something else, a job.
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I still don’t get the point. If you make less money due to farming nerfs everyone else is making less money also. As a “dedicated” farmer you should still make way more money than any casual who doesn’t care for farming. So all your effort is still keeping you ahead. You will still reach your goals faster. Better farming oportunities will only keep you at the same level compared to the market than before.
The only thing I don’t like about all of this is that you can gain more money from farming Fotm (can’t tell myself, just what i heard.)
I spent one of my characters down to basically nothing about a week ago (in exchange for more storage). It’s not my trader, but a character I play about half the time, and I use for my dungeon runs. Today he has over 12 gold. Without even trying. It adds up a lot faster than it used to.
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got kittenlly geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m conkittensed by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
before arenanet nerfed all drops you could make 20 gold a day off farming events in the cursed shore without getting lucky. if the game would have stayed like that, i believe i would have made even more than 800g in 3 months.
Seems to me that 20g a day was seriously imbalanced. I’m glad they nerfed it. Else everyone would be loaded, and the market prices would simply increase anyway.
lol so now that it’s 4g per day you think it’s balanced?
It baffles me as to how you think 4g a day isn’t balanced.
let’s do some math here. dusk costs 300g, if i would farm DE and mobs to get that gold, it would take exactly 75 days just for only that component. oh and when i said 4g i meant 4g in 12 hours of non stop farming.
This is the disconnect. You want the precursor as soon as possible. I do not. It could take a year as far as i’m concerned.
If players were making tons more cash, the precursor price would also skyrocket on the TP. It’s almost irrelevant how much we make, but it’s more important to keep players on a steady enough keel and not have dedicated farmers dominating the market.
And yes regarding the 4g a day I was also talking about dedicated farmers.
but still the prices for some of items are way far off of what most player’s income is.
actually i got enough gold to buy 2 dusk now, but i got it all from the tradepost. 1 month ago when i hit lvl 80 and got kittenlly geared, i started farming mobs for my precurser and realized i was getting nowhere, so i started researching the trade post and look at me now. the reason i made this post wasn’t for myself, it was for everyone else who wants to be rewarded for the time spent playing. i felt it wasn’t how i pictured gw2.
So you have an immense amount of gold, far more than the ‘average’ player has by God knows what factor.
You utilised the TP to do so. But now you are saying that GW2 isn’t what you thought it would be?
Did you expect to get 800g in 3 months by farming mobs? I’d say divide that by 10 and you’re still way over the margin unless you are a dedicated farmer.
I’m conkittensed by the whole thread now. It was your choice to use the TP, it is the choice of others (by a majority imo) to play the game and gather gold and resources how they see fit.
before arenanet nerfed all drops you could make 20 gold a day off farming events in the cursed shore without getting lucky. if the game would have stayed like that, i believe i would have made even more than 800g in 3 months.
Seems to me that 20g a day was seriously imbalanced. I’m glad they nerfed it. Else everyone would be loaded, and the market prices would simply increase anyway.
lol so now that it’s 4g per day you think it’s balanced?
It baffles me as to how you think 4g a day isn’t balanced.
let’s do some math here. dusk costs 300g, if i would farm DE and mobs to get that gold, it would take exactly 75 days just for only that component. oh and when i said 4g i meant 4g in 12 hours of non stop farming.
This is the disconnect. You want the precursor as soon as possible. I do not. It could take a year as far as i’m concerned.
If players were making tons more cash, the precursor price would also skyrocket on the TP. It’s almost irrelevant how much we make, but it’s more important to keep players on a steady enough keel and not have dedicated farmers dominating the market.
And yes regarding the 4g a day I was also talking about dedicated farmers.
but still the prices for some of items are way far off of what most player’s income is.
Which is absolutely where it should be. We’re only 3 months into the game. If everyone had everything available to them, there would be almost zero progression, neither horizontally or vertically.
Do we have a forum bug? The entire thread seems to have been deleted…