Guild Wars 2

Ok so, it’s been on my mind a little while and what I’m talking about is how Braham acted at the end of “A Crack in the Ice.” when he stormed off in an emotional tirade to avenge his estranged mother after he accuses your character as being indifferent and disrespecting his late mother; Eir Stegalkin, whom he had no emotional attachment to- but all of a sudden he cares like she was mother of the year to him. If they bonded behind the scenes then there is hardly any indication of that.
Am I wrong in thinking this?

No, many others also thought/felt he was a superficial prick. Sure he’s in mourning, anyone would be. But going about it in that manner is plain rude to those trying to help him. And surely he rejects or resents their help too. Seems like it anyways.

He’s emo and unstable. That is about the best I could come up with after I did that step.
Honestly, as a commander, I would never run a combat squad with that guy in it. And, I have had that opinion since the beginning of HoT, his current “issues” just confirm that.

I’m hoping at some point really soon we can confirm he is not part of Dragon’s Watch, and since I am supposed to be leading this new guild, afford the gems to rename the guild to ANYTHING else.

Their relationship was being repaired by near the end of LWS2, so their relationship was definitely getting better and could have gotten close in the brief time off screen. Some chapter of last season (the chapter where we had to do those events in Frostgorge Sound) ended with them going back to Hoelbrak to have a feast and talk about their first fight together. And the last chapter has Eir introduce Braham to the rest of Destiny’s Edge as her son. So, yeah, it wasn’t a ton of in your face bonding, but it did happen. And I think the fact that their relationship was just starting to come together is part of why Braham reacts the way he did; he grew up without his mother in his life, and just when they’re starting to know and respect eachother, she’s taken away.

So yeah, he’s pretty much a big jerkwad right now. But his attitude (the rage and wanting to push away the people who care about him) is pretty realistic, I feel. That being said, I do hope he snaps out of it or that our character gets to tell him off if he mouths off like that again.

Halfway through that quest, I straight up wanted to be able to leave him there to die. Your character did absolutely nothing wrong by any reasonable standard, you’re in the middle of actively helping him do his own thing while the world is on fire, and he spends the whole time kittening and insulting the crap out of you.

I agree, he is the worst and annoying NPC ever.
I wished Eir and Braham simply could swap places so he died in the Jungle from a random mob instead and Eir could live on with her legendary tale and fighting against the other elder dragons.
*sigh* Poor Eir... atleast she was my favorite among the "older heroes".
Braham needs to be killed before he kills off too many Norn soldiers as they march to Jormag because he’s too stubborn and stupid.

Imagine this: You never knew your mother. You know that she’s famous, and hear stories about her all the time …and it kittenes you off. She abandoned you, and is your motivation to be greater than she ever was. You, for whatever reason, never seem to measure up to her legend. Then, finally, an opportunity arises to prove yourself greater than she ever was. You (eventually) leap at that opportunity, even though the person giving it to you is your mother’s friend, and achieve things most would consider impossible. Then, by not-quite-coincidence, you have the chance to meet your famous mother. She… apologizes to you? You owe her nothing and expected nothing, but this throws you for a loop. She makes it clear, in her own way, that she has shared your pain and loss and that she would like to rebuild your relationship. You begrudgingly agree, and over time, you two manage to bond. You create the relationship that you two never had, and it’s like an emptiness in your body has been filled; it is everything you’ve ever wanted your entire life and more.

All of a sudden, everything you had is taken away… let’s say in a plane crash. The pain of years of loneliness and abandonment come flooding back, only worse now because you know what life was like without them. Panic sets in as you gather your friends and allies, but have no idea what happened to this person who is part of your life, finally, after all these years… Then, your mother, the woman you hated, then loved, then lost, is returned to you and killed in front of you in an act of pure malice. You subdue the villain responsible, but the reason she died remains, and you’re not entirely sure you have the strength to defeat it. Imagine what kind of mark that vicious roller coaster would leave on a person. That’s what Braham is going through.

Trise.2865:

Imagine this: You never knew your mother. You know that she’s famous, and hear stories about her all the time …and it kittenes you off. She abandoned you, and is your motivation to be greater than she ever was. You, for whatever reason, never seem to measure up to her legend. Then, finally, an opportunity arises to prove yourself greater than she ever was. You (eventually) leap at that opportunity, even though the person giving it to you is your mother’s friend, and achieve things most would consider impossible. Then, by not-quite-coincidence, you have the chance to meet your famous mother. She… apologizes to you? You owe her nothing and expected nothing, but this throws you for a loop. She makes it clear, in her own way, that she has shared your pain and loss and that she would like to rebuild your relationship. You begrudgingly agree, and over time, you two manage to bond. You create the relationship that you two never had, and it’s like an emptiness in your body has been filled; it is everything you’ve ever wanted your entire life and more.

All of a sudden, everything you had is taken away… let’s say in a plane crash. The pain of years of loneliness and abandonment come flooding back, only worse now because you know what life was like without them. Panic sets in as you gather your friends and allies, but have no idea what happened to this person who is part of your life, finally, after all these years… Then, your mother, the woman you hated, then loved, then lost, is returned to you and killed in front of you in an act of pure malice. You subdue the villain responsible, but the reason she died remains, and you’re not entirely sure you have the strength to defeat it. Imagine what kind of mark that vicious roller coaster would leave on a person. That’s what Braham is going through.

No one’s saying he shouldn’t be upset. The problem is he’s taking it out on everyone else and kittenting on everyone completely unprovoked.
And it’s not like that isn’t something that someone might do in that situation, but it does make him a total garbage person regardless that no one would want anything to do with. I sure as hell don’t want to have to keep dealing with his crap.

Grimwolf.7163:

No one’s saying he shouldn’t be upset. The problem is he’s taking it out on everyone else and kittenting on everyone completely unprovoked.

Exactly. He’s being a puerile emo brat throwing a “Nobody as EVER suffered like I do!” tantrum — and the writing lets him get away with it, while also paying zero attention to the stresses and losses our own character has gone through. Each of these three factors alone would be annoying, and combined they only get exponentially worse.

Plus, it’s not like Eir did anything wrong or even unusual by norn cultural standards, which made Braham’s hostility towards her weird from the start, and me not particularly inclined to be sympathetic towards him.

Chadramar.8156:

Plus, it’s not like Eir did anything wrong or even unusual by norn cultural standards, which made Braham’s hostility towards her weird from the start, and me not particularly inclined to be sympathetic towards him.

It’s a result of his inferiority complex. He blamed mother, because he was always in her shadow, and because he thought that was why he himself never amounted to much.

Which, by the way, remains his modus operandi still. His whole behaviour is a result of him continuing to blame others for his own insecurities.

Whilst it does make him an unsympathetic character, it also accurately portrays the type of grief people can and do experience. There is absolutely nothing abnormal or incorrect in what is being seen from him. Considering his youth, and his unstable emotional responses, not taking it out on us would have been more out of character for him.

Randulf.7614:

Whilst it does make him an unsympathetic character, it also accurately portrays the type of grief people can and do experience. There is absolutely nothing abnormal or incorrect in what is being seen from him. Considering his youth, and his unstable emotional responses, not taking it out on us would have been more out of character for him.

And yet people want to see him dead anyway.

I’d hate to see people’s reactions to people in real life grieving in this manner. :\

“Yeah, this person should die because they aren’t grieving like I want them to.”

People don’t dislike him because he isn’t grieving in a way they want him to. They dislike him, because the way in which he’s grieving, while accurate, reveals a lot about his character. And those things aren’t generally good.

Additionally, while accurate, this sort of grieving (and not only grieving, but the rest of his behaviour as well) isn’t really appropriate for the image people generally associate with the Norn. There’s just nothing heroic whatsoever about him. Basically, the only thing he does well since he first appeared in LS1 is whining.

A character like that is very unlikely to get sympathy of the players.

Uh oh, Braham is the new Trahearne/Scarlet. Start the Hype train – Braham is the next to die, the people have spoken!

TheOrlyFactor.8341:

Randulf.7614:

Whilst it does make him an unsympathetic character, it also accurately portrays the type of grief people can and do experience. There is absolutely nothing abnormal or incorrect in what is being seen from him. Considering his youth, and his unstable emotional responses, not taking it out on us would have been more out of character for him.

And yet people want to see him dead anyway.

I’d hate to see people’s reactions to people in real life grieving in this manner. :\

“Yeah, this person should die because they aren’t grieving like I want them to.”

But the way the player character acts around him is not agreeable. If it were me, I would not let him step all over me, i’m his superior. Plus, he’s a norn they aren’t supposed to act like that.

TheOrlyFactor.8341:

Randulf.7614:

Whilst it does make him an unsympathetic character, it also accurately portrays the type of grief people can and do experience. There is absolutely nothing abnormal or incorrect in what is being seen from him. Considering his youth, and his unstable emotional responses, not taking it out on us would have been more out of character for him.

And yet people want to see him dead anyway.

I’d hate to see people’s reactions to people in real life grieving in this manner. :\

“Yeah, this person should die because they aren’t grieving like I want them to.”

In real life I might be allowed to speak back if someone decided to be rude or offensive to me. I might be able to just avoid the person.

If the options (in game) are:

let the individual be offensive to me…

or

wish them dead or otherwise removed from play…

I’d rather the latter than the former.