Guild Wars 2

Construct a MMO’s core mechanics (artwork, combat etc) from existing MMOs. I’ll start as an example.

1. The quests and storytelling of RuneScape.
2. The combat, the world, the dungeons and progression of GW2
3. The cutscenes of FF14
4. The large scale group content of WoW
5. The character design and gear of Vindictus

1. RuneScape does something which I havn’t seen in any other MMO. Instead of having one storyline the player follows, it has a series of questlines which are separate in nature but intertwining in events, sewn together by an overarching plot which is elegantly and slowly unveiled to the player. It’s just beautifully immersive.

2. Tyria is beautiful, I don’t need to say anything more. The combat has just the right balance between an action MMO and a traditional one to get the best of both worlds.

The dungeons are very well structured, with puzzles and other tasks to break up boss fights and mob trashing. The thing about progress in this game is that it’s mostly well…. progressive. Take Ascended items for example, instead of waiting for a RNG boss drop with a 0.00001 chance, you know how far you’re away to crafting it.

3+4. I don’t think I need to say anything.
5. Despite everything else being done terribly in that game, the gear and characters look awesome. Each endgame armour which came out before Season 2 were unique and intricately designed, down to the very little details like how chains on them moved and how that one armour with a cape’s cape swirled as you ran.

one that does not put too much focus on cash shop on updates. one that practice what it preach. one that doesn’t not have dailies and achievement points.one without gear grind.one without having to pay for cash as something trivial as bank slots,character slots, hair style,character transfer and the list go on….

GW2 Atmosphere + Rift Talenting system + everything else from Wildstar

mabinogi with the graphic and the combat system of neverwinter

This is the best one for me so far. Perfection is an illusion.

Yargesh.4965:

This is the best one for me so far. Perfection is an illusion.

Perfection is an opinion.

Zoltreez.6435:

GW2 Atmosphere + Rift Talenting system + everything else from Wildstar

Wildstar isn’t out yet, thus does really exist as we don’t really know everything about it.

For GW2 to be perfect for me, I would like to have:

The player housing from SWG (with the pack up system of LotRO should players be inactive)
Emotes and animations from MxO (loved being able to sit on bar stools)
Quick hairstyle change from Fallen Earth
Wardrobe system from LotRO
Synchronised instrument playing from SWG
Dances from just about any other game!

Yes, I love fluff!

Talenna.4052:

For GW2 to be perfect for me, I would like to have:

The player housing from SWG (with the pack up system of LotRO should players be inactive)
Emotes and animations from MxO (loved being able to sit on bar stools)
Quick hairstyle change from Fallen Earth
Wardrobe system from LotRO
Synchronised instrument playing from SWG
Dances from just about any other game!

Yes, I love fluff!

That’ll be like a dress up game.And a kid like atmosphere in gw2 T^T.

gw2 is the ‘perfect’ MMO for me, for now.

xephire.8324:

Talenna.4052:

For GW2 to be perfect for me, I would like to have:

The player housing from SWG (with the pack up system of LotRO should players be inactive)
Emotes and animations from MxO (loved being able to sit on bar stools)
Quick hairstyle change from Fallen Earth
Wardrobe system from LotRO
Synchronised instrument playing from SWG
Dances from just about any other game!

Yes, I love fluff!

That’ll be like a dress up game.And a kid like atmosphere in gw2 T^T.

Quaggan backpacks would like a word with you.

As long as Elins with their widely visible panties from Tera doesn’t make it into this list, I’m fine with anything.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Zoltreez.6435:

GW2 Atmosphere + Rift Talenting system + everything else from Wildstar

Wildstar isn’t out yet, thus does really exist as we don’t really know everything about it.

did you watched all the dev speak whats in the game ? the combat break out gameplay ? the housing that have a porpose not just cosmetic ? the different type of PvP activities ? most of the mmos don’t offer anything else then raids or BGs.

GW2 only has WvW spvp and Instances I don’t count living story as content that you can do whenever you want. WoW has BGs Arenas aaaaand raids nothing else also.

btw Put ANY mmo together with any Other MMO it would be a Blast if it doesen’t have Asian MMO in it.

Asian MMO’s always such a failure from the start.

A game with:

Balanced PvP.
Splits Skills from PvP and PvE.
Requires more than spamming 1.
Trinity, or at the very least, roles that are better defined.
Missions.
Epic end-game bosses.
Requires more than spamming 1.
Craptons of lore.
Low level cap.
Lots of Titles.
Requires more than spamming 1.
Good storylines.
Has great survivability throughout the years.
Requires more than spamming 1.
Has a heavy emphasis on team-play.
Has recruitable NPC’s if you can’t find a team.

Assassin’s that can be tanks…Oh, wait. That game’s already out. BRB DL’ing GW1.

Zoltreez.6435:

Xae Isareth.1364:

Zoltreez.6435:

GW2 Atmosphere + Rift Talenting system + everything else from Wildstar

Wildstar isn’t out yet, thus does really exist as we don’t really know everything about it.

did you watched all the dev speak whats in the game ? the combat break out gameplay ? the housing that have a porpose not just cosmetic ? the different type of PvP activities ? most of the mmos don’t offer anything else then raids or BGs.

GW2 only has WvW spvp and Instances I don’t count living story as content that you can do whenever you want. WoW has BGs Arenas aaaaand raids nothing else also.

Devs can say all they want, it doesn’t mean that’s what the game’s actually going to be like. The devs of this game showed us how pre-patch Tequatl had a million different features but it turned out to be just a 1-spam until they revamped him.

I don’t see this being different with Wildstar, especially when they showed that level 20 dragon boss’s mechanics and the tank was just literally staying still and soaking up all the damage from everything.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Zoltreez.6435:

Xae Isareth.1364:

Zoltreez.6435:

GW2 Atmosphere + Rift Talenting system + everything else from Wildstar

Wildstar isn’t out yet, thus does really exist as we don’t really know everything about it.

did you watched all the dev speak whats in the game ? the combat break out gameplay ? the housing that have a porpose not just cosmetic ? the different type of PvP activities ? most of the mmos don’t offer anything else then raids or BGs.

GW2 only has WvW spvp and Instances I don’t count living story as content that you can do whenever you want. WoW has BGs Arenas aaaaand raids nothing else also.

Devs can say all they want, it doesn’t mean that’s what the game’s actually going to be like. The devs of this game showed us how pre-patch Tequatl had a million different features but it turned out to be just a 1-spam until they revamped him.

I don’t see this being different with Wildstar, especially when they showed that level 20 dragon boss’s mechanics and the tank was just literally staying still and soaking up all the damage from everything.

True

but they not just saying it they also showing it and what I saw its pretty impressive,

Xae Isareth.1364:

Zoltreez.6435:

Xae Isareth.1364:

Zoltreez.6435:

GW2 Atmosphere + Rift Talenting system + everything else from Wildstar

Wildstar isn’t out yet, thus does really exist as we don’t really know everything about it.

did you watched all the dev speak whats in the game ? the combat break out gameplay ? the housing that have a porpose not just cosmetic ? the different type of PvP activities ? most of the mmos don’t offer anything else then raids or BGs.

GW2 only has WvW spvp and Instances I don’t count living story as content that you can do whenever you want. WoW has BGs Arenas aaaaand raids nothing else also.

Devs can say all they want, it doesn’t mean that’s what the game’s actually going to be like. The devs of this game showed us how pre-patch Tequatl had a million different features but it turned out to be just a 1-spam until they revamped him.

I don’t see this being different with Wildstar, especially when they showed that level 20 dragon boss’s mechanics and the tank was just literally staying still and soaking up all the damage from everything.

Sounds like a tank to me.

GW2 graphics and combat with GW1’s PvP system.

Terraria is my perfect MMO.

I honestly expected GW2 to be like it: go out, explore, acquire loot, kill things or not kill things, do what game wants you to do or don’t… that’d be great…

^theres a difference between being a tank and being immortal.

And also, the devs will always set things up to make them seem epic. If you saw trailers, just remember Tequatl Rising’s trailer that made him seem like he’s running around through the fight. If you saw gameplay, my above post about pre-patch Tequatl.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Yargesh.4965:

This is the best one for me so far. Perfection is an illusion.

Perfection is an opinion.

Since perfection is an absolute it sadly cannot be an opinion.

I would live Terraria to be an actual MMO, as in, you can’t just basically copy-paste worlds and ‘spawn’ items.

Nothing is absolute until you define it in context.

Guild Wars 2 without the carebears and entitled bads would be my perfect MMO.

Xae Isareth.1364:

I would live Terraria to be an actual MMO, as in, you can’t just basically copy-paste worlds and ‘spawn’ items.

Oh yeah. Maybe if modding tools ever see the light of day, someone might actually enable a proper “persistent” mode for it. I bet “Large” maps can support a couple hundred players with breathing room if nothing else.

Let’s see:

• The graphics, combat, event system, jumping puzzles and Discovery crafting of GW2.
• The skill system and how skills worked together from GW.
• The skill customization system from Path of Exile.
• The setting, missions, clkitten system, cosmetic progression and crafting of The Secret World (Investigation Missions have no hand-holding, and I’m quite fond of the atmosphere it gives. If they could nail that in a Fantasy game, I’d be happy).
• The exploration and world interaction of Minecraft (having to make your own maps lest you get lost, being able to interact with everything to build stuff).

Xae Isareth.1364:

xephire.8324:

Talenna.4052:

For GW2 to be perfect for me, I would like to have:

The player housing from SWG (with the pack up system of LotRO should players be inactive)
Emotes and animations from MxO (loved being able to sit on bar stools)
Quick hairstyle change from Fallen Earth
Wardrobe system from LotRO
Synchronised instrument playing from SWG
Dances from just about any other game!

Yes, I love fluff!

That’ll be like a dress up game.And a kid like atmosphere in gw2 T^T.

Quaggan backpacks would like a word with you.

As long as Elins with their widely visible panties from Tera doesn’t make it into this list, I’m fine with anything.

Trust me itll be one of the option soon,once they ran out of ideas of what to put in the cash shop.

^ not a game but if you ever watched Fate/Zero, that’s basically what I would imagine TSW in a fantasy setting to be like.

This one is far from perfect, but about the best going just now.

Looks like several good releases coming up, as soon as something better comes along, I’m off !

As it stands right now, GW2 is about as close to perfect FOR ME as it can be. Ask me again in a year or two.

Xae Isareth.1364:

^ not a game but if you ever watched Fate/Zero, that’s basically what I would imagine TSW in a fantasy setting to be like.

Yeah. I just finished watching it funnily enough. Awesome animation, and a better story than Fate/Stay Night IMO.

Eh, it’s still a modern setting. I’m talking more a high fantasy setting (think Middle Earth).

Amadan.9451:

mabinogi with the graphic and the combat system of neverwinter

Although I actually hated the graphics in Maninogi, it had probably the most innovative character and gear progression I’ve ever seen. Pretty much perfect horizontal progression defined.

xephire.8324:

Talenna.4052:

For GW2 to be perfect for me, I would like to have:

The player housing from SWG (with the pack up system of LotRO should players be inactive)
Emotes and animations from MxO (loved being able to sit on bar stools)
Quick hairstyle change from Fallen Earth
Wardrobe system from LotRO
Synchronised instrument playing from SWG
Dances from just about any other game!

Yes, I love fluff!

That’ll be like a dress up game.And a kid like atmosphere in gw2 T^T.

I am roleplayer and the above would greatly enhance my gaming experience. I’m sure there other RPers who would like to see housing, better emotes and animations, as well decoratable housing. XD

As for Quaggan backpacks? Yes I do have one, as well as a couple of the Charr ones.

Sadly, though it’s at least 2 decades since I was kid.

The condition damage handling, the rewards for long time players, the shop items, group handling, autogroup for events, mobile games and lottery, housing is fantastic in Rift.

The leveling (skill based), the rewards for doing events, the rewards based solely on currencies that are obtainable from simple gameplay, events don’t require that WoW-esc dance maneuvers seen in Teq recent changes on this game and yet remain challenging and fun without them, abundant in game cosmetics without the need to spend a dime, weekend event bonuses on loot, ample story to make the game in depth and brings you into the world immersion, balance for the types of weapons you use (ie if you use a flame thrower, bombs, grenades etc things die quickly in PVE there isn’t a guy with a sword killing things faster than you do) all from Defiance.

Trinity lite where every gamer has to make sure they stay alive however when a group has a tank and healer it enhances their performance and makes the events a bit easier. Neverwinter

I want:
1) Art style of GW2
2) Combat like DMC
3) Jumping puzzle likeSuper Mario 64
4) Rifle and pistols with FPS gameplay
5) Housing like The Sims
6) PvP like GW1 but with the strategy of Starcraft and the immediacy of Team Fortress 2
7) Storytelling of The Last of Us
8) Character customization like Morrowind
9) Mounts with Gran Turismo customization

Oh… and possibly F2P without item shop.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Construct a MMO’s core mechanics (artwork, combat etc) from existing MMOs. I’ll start as an example.

1. The quests and storytelling of RuneScape.
2. The combat, the world, the dungeons and progression of GW2
3. The cutscenes of FF14
4. The large scale group content of WoW
5. The character design and gear of Vindictus

1. RuneScape does something which I havn’t seen in any other MMO. Instead of having one storyline the player follows, it has a series of questlines which are separate in nature but intertwining in events, sewn together by an overarching plot which is elegantly and slowly unveiled to the player. It’s just beautifully immersive.

2. Tyria is beautiful, I don’t need to say anything more. The combat has just the right balance between an action MMO and a traditional one to get the best of both worlds.

The dungeons are very well structured, with puzzles and other tasks to break up boss fights and mob trashing. The thing about progress in this game is that it’s mostly well…. progressive. Take Ascended items for example, instead of waiting for a RNG boss drop with a 0.00001 chance, you know how far you’re away to crafting it.

3+4. I don’t think I need to say anything.
5. Despite everything else being done terribly in that game, the gear and characters look awesome. Each endgame armour which came out before Season 2 were unique and intricately designed, down to the very little details like how chains on them moved and how that one armour with a cape’s cape swirled as you ran.

runescape has an epic storyline?

wow, as a former runescape player since the beginning, i only know how to farm guards using prayer till no tomorrow lol.

I don’t need to construct anything, the best MMO is existing a long time, however was destroyed by kids in the community.

It is Ultima Online folks, never beaten in true MMORPG spirit.

STRanger.5120:

It is Ultima Online folks, never beaten in true MMORPG spirit.

Yeah that was what l’d call a real classic, and believe it’s still going.

GW2 with a housing system, GvG halls for those who are into that sort of thing, and a better definition of how the heck WvWvW fits into the lore and why PvE folks should even bother with it.

That would be the closest thing to perfection for me at least.

Atlas.9704:

GW2 with a housing system, GvG halls for those who are into that sort of thing, and a better definition of how the heck WvWvW fits into the lore and why PvE folks should even bother with it.

That would be the closest thing to perfection for me at least.

If GW2 implemented the player city/player base system that SWG used to have (Pre NGE), that would be the perfect MMO.

I never played it so I have no reference.

Perfect would be GW2 as envisioned pre-launch, with no cash shop, and a subscription. Free just costs too much money and means, essentially, that you must reward yourself for playing.

Art style of S4 League and PSU
Combat, a mix of S4 League, PSO2 and GW2
Multiclass System of GW
Boss encounters of Monster Hunter, PSO2 and Kingdom Hearts
Tag sharing and level scaling of GW2
Platforming of S4 League and GW2
Mob sharing mechanics of GW2 with the loot focus of PSO and Borderlands
Renown Heart and Dynamic Event system of GW2 with some adjustment

Atlas.9704:

I never played it so I have no reference.

Players could build their own cities, with ranks according to population. There was a “politician” profession where you could become a mayor at the highest rank (profession points were refundable in this game, so one toon could be anything, but had limited points to spend. Which was good because you only got one toon per server).

Best part though, was that players could build bases in or around their cities that could be attacked and destroyed by enemies. So if you were Rebel, Imperials could come and destroy your base and vice versa. It was a real motivator for guilds and alliances to plan offense and defense. The open world battles would last hours on end.

And yes, there was GvG in SWG

GW2’s combat
APB’s character creation/customization
GW1’s vertical progression
GW1’s story
Rift’s trait(/skillpoint?) system

Science.6709:

Atlas.9704:

I never played it so I have no reference.

Players could build their own cities, with ranks according to population. There was a “politician” profession where you could become a mayor at the highest rank (profession points were refundable in this game, so one toon could be anything, but had limited points to spend. Which was good because you only got one toon per server).

Best part though, was that players could build bases in or around their cities that could be attacked and destroyed by enemies. So if you were Rebel, Imperials could come and destroy your base and vice versa. It was a real motivator for guilds and alliances to plan offense and defense. The open world battles would last hours on end.

And yes, there was GvG in SWG

Sounds like a reason to have WvW then lol.

Science.6709:

Atlas.9704:

I never played it so I have no reference.

Players could build their own cities, with ranks according to population. There was a “politician” profession where you could become a mayor at the highest rank (profession points were refundable in this game, so one toon could be anything, but had limited points to spend. Which was good because you only got one toon per server).

Best part though, was that players could build bases in or around their cities that could be attacked and destroyed by enemies. So if you were Rebel, Imperials could come and destroy your base and vice versa. It was a real motivator for guilds and alliances to plan offense and defense. The open world battles would last hours on end.

And yes, there was GvG in SWG

Forgot about that in my list AoC had a really awesome guild city system!

Waar Kijk Je Naar.8713:

GW2’s combat
APB’s character creation/customization
GW1’s vertical progression
GW1’s story
Rift’s trait(/skillpoint?) system

Forgot entirely about Rift’s post max level advancement called Planar Attunement was brilliant because you could improve your character’s stats increase your movement speed, damage, crit etc all with post max level skill points from secondary leveling. This game is in such need of that simply from the WvW standpoint it would give players who don’t want to fiddle with the whole ascended gear fiasco the chance to build that extra 10% in stats from leveling process in open world events AND it would be a simple thing for Anet to allow the Ascended gear to turn off those extra benefits if equipped so people couldn’t have both the 10% from ascended and the 10% enhancements from a fully specced secondary score building system like Planar Attunement.

Wow, some interesting stuff in here.

I’d like to see an MMO with the travel (or lack thereof) from Lineage 2.
BUT NOTHING ELSE, THAT GAME WAS AWFUL!

Zackie.8923:

Xae Isareth.1364:

Construct a MMO’s core mechanics (artwork, combat etc) from existing MMOs. I’ll start as an example.

1. The quests and storytelling of RuneScape.
2. The combat, the world, the dungeons and progression of GW2
3. The cutscenes of FF14
4. The large scale group content of WoW
5. The character design and gear of Vindictus

1. RuneScape does something which I havn’t seen in any other MMO. Instead of having one storyline the player follows, it has a series of questlines which are separate in nature but intertwining in events, sewn together by an overarching plot which is elegantly and slowly unveiled to the player. It’s just beautifully immersive.

2. Tyria is beautiful, I don’t need to say anything more. The combat has just the right balance between an action MMO and a traditional one to get the best of both worlds.

The dungeons are very well structured, with puzzles and other tasks to break up boss fights and mob trashing. The thing about progress in this game is that it’s mostly well…. progressive. Take Ascended items for example, instead of waiting for a RNG boss drop with a 0.00001 chance, you know how far you’re away to crafting it.

3+4. I don’t think I need to say anything.
5. Despite everything else being done terribly in that game, the gear and characters look awesome. Each endgame armour which came out before Season 2 were unique and intricately designed, down to the very little details like how chains on them moved and how that one armour with a cape’s cape swirled as you ran.

runescape has an epic storyline?

wow, as a former runescape player since the beginning, i only know how to farm guards using prayer till no tomorrow lol.

Did you play any of the quests without skipping all the dialogue?

Although it is true that you need to get up to Ritual of the Majarrat to fully
appreciate the lore, because that quest is a point which every quest line in the entire game focuses together.

It’s hard to explain all my thoughts about a true ‘Perfect MMO’ for me. But anyway, GW2 holds that position for me right now, even though I regard it not like ‘GW2 is a MMO’, but instead ‘GW2 is just a great game’.