Guild Wars 2

although it Could be a vanity item
your analogy is flawed, it’s more like the army commander who is too stubborn or cheap to invest in an adequate number and variation of Battle Standards ultimately leading to a tactical failure

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cheshirefox.7026:

although it Could be a vanity item
your analogy is flawed, it’s more like the army commander who is too stubborn or cheap to invest in an adequate number and variation of Battle Standards ultimately leading to a tactical failure

I’m not too stubborn, I can’t afford to spend 300 gold on the item. I don’t PvE and I don’t grind dungeons for gold. All I do is WvW and the most gold I’ve ever had was 356. I know I’m a minority but many of the commanders I’ve spoken to are in the same boat.

I would like to imagine I’m slowly saving enough to purchase my precursor, nearly a year and half later when many players already have one.

People are going to buy them anyway, even though they don’t prove anything as to how well they can command anything. This is the real reason why buying a commander tag doesn’t mean much.

Imagine if players could buy their titles. They are the same thing, except you have a blue icon above your name instead of below it, and didn’t have to earn it at all.

grifflyman.8102:

A status symbol. Most WvW commanders I’ve talked to won’t bother to purchase a new color based on the fact they are being charged for a feature designed to help organize players in large groups, something this game has desperately needed since release.

They’re not ok with being charged to help organize, but they were ok with being charged to help organize or they wouldn’t be commanders.

I’m confused.

In the end, the most dedicated ones will cave in and buy the colors.

It won’t become any less than the status symbol it’s now.

The commander tag is not a status symbol for the people who understand it. The pugmannders who are tagging on your Eternal Battlegrounds and trying to lead your server to victory in WvW, the servers and communities that regularly organize Wurm and Tequatl, the hardcore WvW guilds who lead 24hr paintrains, the solo commander who is explaining Drytop and trying to rally the map for a T6 run…all these people appreciate and understand the tag more than Anet ever will.

However, closed-minded PvEers and Anet seem to think it is a vanity item.

Give it a year and there’ll be a rainbow of icons everywhere. Mark my words!

Noobix.3958:

The commander tag is not a status symbol for the people who understand it. The pugmannders who are tagging on your Eternal Battlegrounds and trying to lead your server to victory in WvW, the servers and communities that regularly organize Wurm and Tequatl, the hardcore WvW guilds who lead 24hr paintrains, the solo commander who is explaining Drytop and trying to rally the map for a T6 run…all these people appreciate and understand the tag more than Anet ever will.

However, closed-minded PvEers and Anet seem to think it is a vanity item.

Sometimes it is though. There are even trolls that use the tag for trolling, and getting others to follow them when they aren’t doing anything. Many times i’ve seen commander tags when the person is just harvesting or doing regular heart tasks.

If Anet was serious about the tags, they would put some restrictions on using them, such as people getting kicked for being idle too long. One example, the commander must be in a squad, engaged in WvW events, or World Boss & Orr pre-events and meta-events. The tags could have some sort of penalty associated with it if it isn’t used properly, such as a 10 min. debuff until they can turn them on again.

Their whole concept doesn’t mean anything though, when anyone can buy it and there isn’t any consequence when using them. So yeah, it’s really a vanity item without any well thought-out process behind it.

On my server, I think daily, we have a Map Completion Zerg. I don’t know why, but it happens.

Maybe the price increase is a tiny bit in answer to the ‘anyone can buy them’ dilemma. If those that truly use them don’t want to spend the Gold, maybe, at least, some of those that have no real use for them will be discouraged from purchasing them, as well.

Who knows?

you rang?

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Maybe the price increase is a tiny bit in answer to the ‘anyone can buy them’ dilemma. If those that truly use them don’t want to spend the Gold, maybe, at least, some of those that have no real use for them will be discouraged from purchasing them, as well.

Who knows?

That was my first thought. 100G used to be a major investment, but now anyone who plays a moderate amount can get 100G now adays. The high price was supposed to be an entry barrier to disuade players who weren’t serious about it, it’s likely the price hike is in direct response to inflation.

zenleto.6179:

Give it a year and there’ll be a rainbow of icons everywhere. Mark my words!

Absolutely correct. In fact, we should stop calling them doritos.

They are now skittles. Taste the rainbow.

Expensive skittles. Talk about high class.

Vicariuz.1605:

you rang?

Can I just say, you have one of the best outfits I’ve ever seen. It reminds me of the Obsidian Edge Sword from GW1 – it’s like you have the Obsidian Edge ARMOR :-P

nexxe.7081:

Noobix.3958:

The commander tag is not a status symbol for the people who understand it. The pugmannders who are tagging on your Eternal Battlegrounds and trying to lead your server to victory in WvW, the servers and communities that regularly organize Wurm and Tequatl, the hardcore WvW guilds who lead 24hr paintrains, the solo commander who is explaining Drytop and trying to rally the map for a T6 run…all these people appreciate and understand the tag more than Anet ever will.

However, closed-minded PvEers and Anet seem to think it is a vanity item.

Sometimes it is though. There are even trolls that use the tag for trolling, and getting others to follow them when they aren’t doing anything. Many times i’ve seen commander tags when the person is just harvesting or doing regular heart tasks.

If Anet was serious about the tags, they would put some restrictions on using them, such as people getting kicked for being idle too long. One example, the commander must be in a squad, engaged in WvW events, or World Boss & Orr pre-events and meta-events. The tags could have some sort of penalty associated with it if it isn’t used properly, such as a 10 min. debuff until they can turn them on again.

Their whole concept doesn’t mean anything though, when anyone can buy it and there isn’t any consequence when using them. So yeah, it’s really a vanity item without any well thought-out process behind it.

What about when my tag is on during guild events. Early every month, my guild gets together and does jumping puzzles for the monthly. There’s usually more than a couple of parties worth. Not everyone has been to every place. So we use the tags to organize that event.

It’s a perfectly legit use for a tag. Now if Anet came out with Guild Tags that only your guild could see on map, I’d have no problem with what you said.

It’s obvious from this thread that the PVE crowd just doesn’t get it.

Whoever at ANet came up with this bright idea doesn’t get it either.

What this game really needs is more gold sinks, right?

300g is nothing – even in wvw

just sell everything and dont buy all useless upgrade and tons siegeblueprints – done

wvw could be even more fun when not so much defending crap^^

How can you show off with 300g ? 300g is nothing now, because of the inflation/devaluation.
It’s just the old 100g.

First of all the Commander tags should be earned not bought.
In second agree about what you said 300G for a recolor…Sad.
In third,be honest a lot of us could afford that because there’s many ppl who run around with thousands of gold just look at the economy and I am sure Anet won’t introduce such a thing without a good reason.

Umut.5471:

How can you show off with 300g ? 300g is nothing now, because of the inflation/devaluation.
It’s just the old 100g.

Stop PvEing and play WvW for an entire week, at the end if the week tell me how much gold you make compared to your regular play style.

There are many people who command and WvW exclusively who don’t have 300 gold. I’ve never had more than 360 gold myself and all I do is WvW, I’ve not even done any of the new living story content.

Charging players for a tool designed to make organization easier is a joke too.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Maybe the price increase is a tiny bit in answer to the ‘anyone can buy them’ dilemma. If those that truly use them don’t want to spend the Gold, maybe, at least, some of those that have no real use for them will be discouraged from purchasing them, as well.

Who knows?

The people most able to afford them would likely not be the same players that would truly use them.

Well, that’s why I said ‘some’. If it’s a deterrent to some of those that truly want them, it will also be a deterrent to some of those that don’t.

It could be one of the reasons for the cost. Or it could only be for Gold-sink purposes. Or, more likely, a combination of reasons.

Is there a Green one ? my toon is all green so if there is a green one i am so gonna buy it and have it on 24/7 and no i don’t command Ever and have chat box on combat so no one can bug me lol

grifflyman.8102:

Umut.5471:

How can you show off with 300g ? 300g is nothing now, because of the inflation/devaluation.
It’s just the old 100g.

Stop PvEing and play WvW for an entire week, at the end if the week tell me how much gold you make compared to your regular play style.

There are many people who command and WvW exclusively who don’t have 300 gold. I’ve never had more than 360 gold myself and all I do is WvW, I’ve not even done any of the new living story content.

Charging players for a tool designed to make organization easier is a joke too.

I guess you don’t sell your crafting mats?

Taygus.4571:

grifflyman.8102:

Umut.5471:

How can you show off with 300g ? 300g is nothing now, because of the inflation/devaluation.
It’s just the old 100g.

Stop PvEing and play WvW for an entire week, at the end if the week tell me how much gold you make compared to your regular play style.

There are many people who command and WvW exclusively who don’t have 300 gold. I’ve never had more than 360 gold myself and all I do is WvW, I’ve not even done any of the new living story content.

Charging players for a tool designed to make organization easier is a joke too.

I guess you don’t sell your crafting mats?

You mean the crappy tier materials you find in the Boderlands? And let me stop commanding/responding to an attack to mine every node on the way.

Commanders don’t have the luxury of stopping 20 people to mine every resource node on the map when moving to A to B.

cheshirefox.7026:

although it Could be a vanity item
your analogy is flawed, it’s more like the army commander who is too stubborn or cheap to invest in an adequate number and variation of Battle Standards ultimately leading to a tactical failure

“Why should I spend the 300g and not that other commander”
Color was something discussed with the WvW community and originated from there, it is supposed to be a QUALITY OF LIFE UPDATE, not a kitten gold skin!

I don’t know about anyone else, but seeing a commander with a vanity tag will lead me to question why he did not just spend that gold on siege and food.

pretty sure people can differentiate between blue tags based on where they are on the map, so if the tags actually -do- have a paywall, all jokes aside, it could have a little backlash on the commander, especially if they dont have a truckload of siege or food to begin with.

A dorito is not something “for you”. It is to help people locate events or movements they would otherwise miss.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

I don’t know about anyone else, but seeing a commander with a vanity tag will lead me to question why he did not just spend that gold on siege and food.

Do you have poor commanders ? It’s so common to see a commander run around with a legendary.

RedStar.4218:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

I don’t know about anyone else, but seeing a commander with a vanity tag will lead me to question why he did not just spend that gold on siege and food.

Do you have poor commanders ? It’s so common to see a commander run around with a legendary.

Only one? Man, your comms are poor.

RedStar.4218:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

I don’t know about anyone else, but seeing a commander with a vanity tag will lead me to question why he did not just spend that gold on siege and food.

Do you have poor commanders ? It’s so common to see a commander run around with a legendary.

Nothing wrong with a legendary wielding commander. But a legendary is something “for them.”

A dorito is “hey, come rally at my position.” It has no use other than that. Spending 300g on that and then not using superior siege for time-critical flips will make me scratch my head.

Oh our rich commanders, will pretty much only use superior sieges. Except if really there’s no rush at all. Even our poorer commander will use sup siege unless it’s on a paper tower and there’s absolutely no rush.

Esplen.3940:

RedStar.4218:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

I don’t know about anyone else, but seeing a commander with a vanity tag will lead me to question why he did not just spend that gold on siege and food.

Do you have poor commanders ? It’s so common to see a commander run around with a legendary.

Only one? Man, your comms are poor.

Oh hell no ! Our commanders are glowing as bright as thousand stars with all their legendaries. And their Mjölnir.
Never saw one wielding Infinite light though : /

Did I miss some announcement? I have been under the impression that the price change is due to it being account bound. Price has nothing to do with the color. Totally confused as to why everyone is flipping out.

The tags are already a fashion statement. Anyone with 100 gold can buy one. It doesn’t mean they know ANYTHING about the game.

Maybe it will prevent the clueless from actually trying to lead.

Shaogin.2679:

Did I miss some announcement? I have been under the impression that the price change is due to it being account bound. Price has nothing to do with the color. Totally confused as to why everyone is flipping out.

Tags are already account bound. The ones on the TP are simply grandfathered, but will be account bound when purchased.

EDIT:
Sorry, the book is already account bound.

I think a more apt term would be account-wide.

Amnariel.3659:

First of all the Commander tags should be earned not bought.

^this x1000
but a.net is not gonna listen anyway so just don’t waste time and do not ruin your mood for this, ain’t really worth

Dusty Moon.4382:

The tags are already a fashion statement. Anyone with 100 gold can buy one. It doesn’t mean they know ANYTHING about the game.

Maybe it will prevent the clueless from actually trying to lead.

Quite the opposite, it will make it more likely that the person with a tag is a farmer, not a leader.

Have we confirmed that new colors will come at a additional cost?

Mireles Lore.5942:

Have we confirmed that new colors will come at a additional cost?

Yes, 300 gold per color.

AlexEBT.7240:

Mireles Lore.5942:

Have we confirmed that new colors will come at a additional cost?

Yes, 300 gold per color.

Do you have a source I can look at?

Yes its been confirmed.
I agree OP. Its completely useless to charge gold for a colored tag for wvw without differentiating between the experience of the commander. For pve, well, everyone will be happy I guess.

Ask and ye shall be sent to Grenth

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2djnv8/interview_with_devon_carver_commander_tag_will_be/

Mireles Lore.5942:

AlexEBT.7240:

Mireles Lore.5942:

Have we confirmed that new colors will come at a additional cost?

Yes, 300 gold per color.

Do you have a source I can look at?

Also Azures link http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2djnv8/interview_with_devon_carver_commander_tag_will_be/

Here’s one for English.

http://www.guildmag.com/command-tag-gamescom-2014/

Thank you,

Wow…

For 300g I think ill just stay blue and have people deal with it when I’m commanding.

Here I thought this feature was to make things easier on commanders and organizing players.. not burden them with a gold sink to even make use of the feature.

Totally defeats the purpose if 3 commanders that own the same color are commanding at the same time and are locked into the same color. Does nobody at Anet actually play the game or think things through?

Really what is the point of the feature if commanders cant switch colors easily to fit the current situation?

Shaogin.2679:

Did I miss some announcement? I have been under the impression that the price change is due to it being account bound. Price has nothing to do with the color. Totally confused as to why everyone is flipping out.

The price change is due to it becoming acokitten bound. The uproar is due to each color costing 300g.