When do you use foods/oils?

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Posted by: Weylin.6478

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Kinda curious when these consumables are put to cost-effective use.
Like, under what circumstances do these provide enough of a benefit to be worth the cost, and the content such that it even requires that extra ‘edge’ to be there at all?

Some foods are kinda pricey at 1g for a top tier meal, and some use tons of ingredients, like 20 to 30 of something for a food that lasts an hour, but the materials can take days to collect.

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Posted by: Bubi.7942

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WvW

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Posted by: Indoles.1467

Indoles.1467

WvW. Maybe a dungeon/fractal if I’m bored and want to see big numbers.

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Posted by: Roundabout.1752

Roundabout.1752

On my light armor classes I pretty much keep mango pies on all the time but other then that I save food and oils for Dungeons and Fractals since I’ve only recently started doing them and don’t know the way they work yet.

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Posted by: fishball.7204

fishball.7204

Silverwastes – I always pop magic find food and oil, very cheap for 60% bonus (Spicy Pumpkin Cookie and the Halloween Oils)

WvW – Usually power oil (1 hour version) and the food depending on light or heavy. I usually use ghetto stuff not the lemongrass unless I drop a pot for a lot of people.

Dungeons – Potions +10%/-10% Slaying and Truffle Steaks. I always use them since I don’t pug and my group runs meta/casual tours.

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Posted by: PaxTheGreatOne.9472

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A few reasons when to use utility food (sharpening stones (power), oil (precision), tuning crystals(condition dmage), slaying potions or food :

Normally people use Food, utils, slaying potions when you are in need of a boost. Good examples of it’s use are:

  1. Leveling (use food for the tier appropriate) to add some additional damage, the fact most armors are mixed anyways will give more toughness and viatlity.
  2. Experience boosting: The fact you get an added 10% EXPEREINCE for BOTH FOOD and UTILITY is very nice as well.
    (I’d suggest candy corn icecream for ppl leveling alts. it’s 5% more effective but it costs way more (~15s) then most starter foods (4-15 c)
  3. Speedrunning/dungeons: Use Slaying potions of the YOUR appropriate level (not the dungeon), it will add some damage and it will add damage reduction as well.
  4. Area’s with only 1 type of enemy: ORR always use a superior potion of undead slaying for a +10% damage and a -10% damage received.When you want to max out damage and youy DO NOT have the appropriate slaying potion use a utility instead.
  5. WvW in situations where 1 hit might turn the fights maxing out your stats for optimal use is most important, so use the foods most appropriate, either condition duration reduction for melees or damage boosting food for ranged, backline ustility as needed… Often the commanders drop plates, feasts and bowls of food, utility is your ownb thing, but going without makes ppl target you.
  6. Condtition Duration: Toxic utilities are +100 appropriate stat and +10% coindition duration, coupled with +40% duration food for conditions it is a near mandatory setup for condition users. however the combo costs ~70 silver/ 30 minutes.
  7. Adding non standard effects to your build. Things which come to mind are might on heal (marjorie’s experimental chili), dodge food (orrian truffle and meat stew+40% improved endurance regen, might on dodge used it before for the now nerfed acrobatics thief with runes of evasion) and things you do not expect (sweet bean buns: -40% condition duration (self) ,+ 25% condition duration), life steal food(s).
  8. Magic Find: Omnomberry…. and halloween utils.

Generally on lvl 80 I carry only certain amounts of food:

Utility:
- potent sharpening stones adds power based on vit & tough. (100 base)
- potent tuning crystals adds condition dmg based on vit & tough. (100 base)
- toxic sharpening stones adds 100 power, + 10 condition duration
- toxic crystals adds 100 condition dmg, + 10 condition duration
I am no fan of precision oils as I run a huge amount of condition and/or condi/power hybrid builds and the added precision doesn’t effect my damage output (well the loss of 1 or 2 bleeds tends to be insignificant, but it could proc a sigil of strength more often )

Food
- plate of truffle steak ( +100 power + 70 precision 30m)
- rare veggie pizza ( + 40% condition dur + 70 condition 30m)
- Bowl of Garlic Kale Sautee ( + 40% condition dur + 70 condition 60m)
- Prickly Pear Stuffed Nopale ( + 40% condition dur + 70 power 30m)
- Bowl of Sweet and Spicy Beans( + 40% condition dur + 70 power 60m)
- lemongrass and poultry soup ( -40% condition duration on self, +70 vitality)

But other niche foods I use are:
(- plate of fire flank steak + 100 power + 70 condition dmg)) cheap alternative for power food on hybrids if you do not need condition dmg, (I use it when I expect fighting a lot of objects., whne playing hybrid)
(- delicious rice balls ( + 100 healing, + 10% healing to allies)) synergizes with run of the monk and aquatic benevolence or hother healing specs
(- spicy chocolate cookies ( + 100 healing, + 70 precision)) used when using a combat medic instead of a healer.
(- marjorys experimental chili ( + 50 power, + 50 conidtion dmg, 3 might on heal))
synergizes with runes of aristocracy ((CM Dungeon)(might duration, conidtion dmg , might on heal) for 6 might on heal… On hybrid with runes of aristocracy instead of strength
(- orrian truffle and meat stew ( 100% chance to gain might on dodge, + 40% endurance regen) when in need of additional dodges
(saffron mango icecream) used for healing power on bunker specs (synergizes with nomad/clerics. mostkly phased out for me after delicious riceballs arrived))
(spicy marinated mushroom (+ 100 power + 70 toughness) for bunkering… most bunker builds need toughness, this will up it more and give you some much needed power. I use it on 5 shout nomad/clerics commander build cleanse/healing guardian. 1600 power, 3400+ armor, 1200 healing)

Remember these are all lvl 80 and therefore expensive, often 1 tier lower still gives most buffs/boons but ill be considerably cheaper (-50-80% cheaper are normal figures)

23 lvl 80’s, 9 times map, 4ele, 4ncr, 3war, 3grd, 3rgr, 2thf, 2msm, 1eng, 1 rev.
Been There, Done That & Will do it again…except maybe world completion.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

I mostly just use the birthday blaster whenever I bother to use consumables any more.

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ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: Cyninja.2954

Cyninja.2954

Silverwastes or when I farm, mf buff food but only when I bother with using it.

Fractal 50, oil and food if I feel like it or the group has major damage problems.

WvW when planing on playing a full evening of more then 1 hour of wvw.

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Posted by: Breaking Bad.6241

Breaking Bad.6241

Silverwastes – I always pop magic find food and oil, very cheap for 60% bonus (Spicy Pumpkin Cookie and the Halloween Oils)

I don’t think magic find food works well for Silverwastes. The vast majority of the mobs don’t drop anything and magic find doesn’t work on the reward chests.

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

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I use food/nourishment for essentially everything in the game that allows for it.

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Posted by: Evans.6347

Evans.6347

First you use the oil, let it heat up in the pan, then add the food. Don’t let is cook too long.

Seriously tho, only in SW atm, and I use cheap foods and utilities. I’m not paying large amounts of money for small boons.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

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Mostly only when I remember. I have stacks and stacks of those kinds of consumables. Lol.

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Posted by: PaxTheGreatOne.9472

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I’d like to add 1 remark:

LEVELLING for 6-15 silver you buy :

Candy Corn Icecream ( + 15% experience from kills, + 5% karma + 10% movement while in sugar rush and a little bit of healing)..
This LEVEL 5 food, (normally) combined with rough sharpening stones is my favorite choice for leveling characters, the combo providing a little power, a little healing 25% experience from kills 5% karma and a small speedbuff…
(base food:
15% experience from kills, +5% karma +10% movement while in sugar rush and a little bit of healing)

23 lvl 80’s, 9 times map, 4ele, 4ncr, 3war, 3grd, 3rgr, 2thf, 2msm, 1eng, 1 rev.
Been There, Done That & Will do it again…except maybe world completion.

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Posted by: fishball.7204

fishball.7204

Silverwastes – I always pop magic find food and oil, very cheap for 60% bonus (Spicy Pumpkin Cookie and the Halloween Oils)

I don’t think magic find food works well for Silverwastes. The vast majority of the mobs don’t drop anything and magic find doesn’t work on the reward chests.

I get tons of T6 by killing the trash along the chest train path. MF also works on chests and it costs like 2s / hour which is hardly a lot.

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Posted by: Hoaxintelligence.4628

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Lemongrass + sharpening stones in WvW

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Posted by: imsoenthused.1634

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Almost never, I forget about them to be honest.

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Posted by: L Step.8659

L Step.8659

WvW. If I did dungeons anymore probably the dungeon specific potions too.

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