Guild Wars 2

Just a question. I searched for it but didn’t find anything.

When does the “New Player Experience” change? Has Anet announced that yet? Do we have to wait until HoT?

I just got my Warrior to level 80 and have no traits. I’m running 2/1/5/3/3 because of all the locked traits.

Even though all I do is WvW, I was setting out to get the traits I wanted when I see that one of them requires a level 70 Story event! I’ve not completed the Story on any of my toons. Now I have to do the Story to get a trait?

I know I could buy them but I’d really rather not.

So, anyone know when the How to Drive New Players Away from the Game and Aggravate Old Players with Alts er… I mean New Player Experience changes?

When it’s ready.

This is a good question. The skill and trait line changes will be rolled out before HoT, in “The next content update.” We don’t know when that is, except before HoT is released. But we don’t know if trait unlocks will be fixed when the skill and trait changes happen, or with HoT.
And the trait change was not part of the NPE. So if we’re told there are going to be changes to the NPE, that would not necessarily include trait unlock changes.
I’d really like to know this as well. Because I don’t think that players should have to pay for a fix to the trait unlock system. And before people in pale armor start jumping on me insisting that the trait unlock system is not broken:
When you tie trait unlocks to bugged/broken events, over-leveled events, and event chains that groups of players will derail for selfish reasons, then yes, your trait unlock system is broken.
It would be nice to get a response from an Anet employee about when trait unlocks will be changed.(with skill & trait changes, or with HoT, not an actual date)

Yep would be nice to know. I’m and old player and just made a new alt. Horrible experience… like I get it…it seems good in theory…but in practice………..maybe if buying them was 10x cheaper than it is from trainer (like 1 skill pt 10silver)

There is speculation that it will come out in the next patch with the rebuilding of LA. Which if they keep with the 2 weeks will put it in the 23rd

simplesimon.2084:

There is speculation that it will come out in the next patch with the rebuilding of LA. Which if they keep with the 2 weeks will put it in the 23rd

There is no speculation involved. It has been outright stated that it will come with the next content patch. WHEN the next content patch is, we do not know however.

I’ve been doing some new character stuff recently, and I’ve come to the rather dreadful conclusion I prefer The Secret World over this. And mind, I loathe the way you need to be able to do complex math to solve even the tiniest puzzle there. But it’s better than the no-need-for-brains baby food that is the NPE. At least TSW assumes players HAVE brains, at least enough to figure out how to google stuff.

And don’t get me started on the current trait system…

Mightybird.6034:

Yep would be nice to know. I’m and old player and just made a new alt. Horrible experience… like I get it…it seems good in theory…but in practice………..maybe if buying them was 10x cheaper than it is from trainer (like 1 skill pt 10silver)

Yeah, Seems like they planned it for PvE/World exp mainly. But it is good they’re realizing this so they are changing it. Might take a while but better late than never!

Gunsnroll.2657:

When it’s ready.

What a luxury. I work on 2 year constuction projects and clients hold schedules to the week. There must be hundreds of employees doing unimaginable amounts of unique one off work by hand to not be able to hold a project schedule to a month or quarter.

We may never understand how vast and complex this expansion truly is.

Not this tuesday, but next tuesday. not the next tuesday before the last next tuesday, but after the following tuesday after the this next tuesday, possibly between the former tuesday before last next, but not after this coming friday? I think?

before july.

maybe.

we hope.

Unless I missed something only Traits is changing, not the entire NPE.

A lot of people lump the trait changes in with the NPE. The traits will change. It’s unlikely the NPE will.

So far, no announcements re changes to the NPE itself, just traits. Of course, there should be minor changes to the level-up info relating to traits and skills to go along with the new systems for those features, as well as changes to when in the leveling process Hero points become available and when they can be spent on what. So, some changes to the content of NPE, but not likely to the NPE concept.

The new system is terrible, my old toons never had this problem and I was leveling some new ones last week.
I ended up buying the grandmaster traits because I have no interest in ever doing arah again, and the temple of balthazar only fails because no-one is interested in doing them.
IN theory they may sound great, it’s an awfull system in practise.

Johje Holan.4607:

Even though all I do is WvW, I was setting out to get the traits I wanted when I see that one of them requires a level 70 Story event! I’ve not completed the Story on any of my toons. Now I have to do the Story to get a trait?

I hope I dont come out as rude now but, if you havent played the story at all I advice you to that. This game has so much more than just WvW. I think this was the point with all this locking traits behind content, so that it would make more players do them. I had to go to WvW to get some traits, I have grown so bored of WvW so I just hated that… I Know that there will be a fix to the traits soon but I wanted it now so I bought it, the money is well spent becouse I can use the trait now.

Now if you only play WvW, I have sad news for you… You will probably need to do some pure PvE after the Specialization update as you will probably need to go out and hunt some Hero Point challenges.

Oh and by the way, if you happen to follow my advice and do the story, I advice you again that the experience gets easier and more enjoyable if you play it with a friend or more.

I’ve been leveling a gaggle of my alt fools to 80. Hopefully it goes faster with this new system.

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

Johje Holan.4607:

Even though all I do is WvW, I was setting out to get the traits I wanted when I see that one of them requires a level 70 Story event! I’ve not completed the Story on any of my toons. Now I have to do the Story to get a trait?

I hope I dont come out as rude now but, if you havent played the story at all I advice you to that. This game has so much more than just WvW. I think this was the point with all this locking traits behind content, so that it would make more players do them. I had to go to WvW to get some traits, I have grown so bored of WvW so I just hated that… I Know that there will be a fix to the traits soon but I wanted it now so I bought it, the money is well spent becouse I can use the trait now.

Now if you only play WvW, I have sad news for you… You will probably need to do some pure PvE after the Specialization update as you will probably need to go out and hunt some Hero Point challenges.

Oh and by the way, if you happen to follow my advice and do the story, I advice you again that the experience gets easier and more enjoyable if you play it with a friend or more.

No, you’re not rude. But I tried PvE at launch and couldn’t continue. I can’t stand the PvE in GW2.

Some are saying the NPE might not change – I thought Anet had stated that it will? Oh well, WvW is getting boring for me too. I’m looking forward to Stronghold though so if the NPE doesn’t change I guess it’ll be Stronghold only for my new Warrior.