Guild Wars 2

When you are able to get out of the mmo mentality when playing, the game becomes HUGE.
Its taken me since headstart, multiple re rolls of characters, and on and off playing to see what the game has available, and it only hit me a day or two ago.
No longer am i FORCED into playing in a certain starter area, no longer am i FORCED into progressing along higher level areas and monsters, no longer am i FORCED into getting to level cap to actually play the game with people.

Sure, it has its faults, lack of content at the level cap (i dont know thats just the general jist of the forums), dynamic events being far too easy, and the price of gear from vendors, But when you can throw away the need to get to the level cap, throw away the “i MUST use x weapon otherwise i cant dps or play efficiently” you truly see what the game is.

A couple of weeks ago i was really meh about warriors in wvw and how melee are useless, then i thought i MUST use rifle or bow. But then it hit me. In a situation where ranged is far better i CAN play ranged, in a situation where melee is better, i CAN play melee, and still be efficient and good enough to contribute to players around me.

When i saw ranger with melee weapons i was like WTF its a RANGEer. Then i realised the game allows me to play ranged or melee, be efficient and still contribute either way to people and team mates.

As i said, the game has issues, but its a month old, and i for one am a person who thinks WoW should go back to vanilla, but then when i truly look at it, putting the nostalgia aside, it was utter wank and worked completely against you and it was the most frustrating time of the game.
I see GW2 achieving MASSIVE feats in the mmo world, and it has a fantastic foundation to build upon. I think we all need to realise, its a baby in terms of an mmos life.

I’ve played the beta, and GW1, and a whole lot more multiplayer games than simply the infamous Blizzard MMORPG, and I’m sick and tired of being told my perspective is wrong.

Isn’t this a MMO? Or am I missing something?

Just another fanboy post trying to justify design flaws or plain lies.

Fanboy? Hardly. What design flaws? Lies? Well yeah one of my posts back along spoke about what we were going to be playing, and its different yes but you cannot deny what the game has achieved.

I wonder why you play this game if you’re not a fan.

Knuckledust.5621:

Isn’t this a MMO? Or am I missing something?

Just another fanboy post trying to justify design flaws or plain lies.

What design flaws?
Mind pointing them out?

Untouch.2541:

Knuckledust.5621:

Isn’t this a MMO? Or am I missing something?

Just another fanboy post trying to justify design flaws or plain lies.

What design flaws?
Mind pointing them out?

Every time you try to point them out here, the amount of crying becomes ear-shattering.

The game has not achieved anything YET, not a thing, it’s been out 1 month I have 2 lvl 80’s and no content to clear, the game is over for me, levelling was great experience and i truly thought the game was goig places but after dinging 80 on my second character (Got bored standing around town on the first) I ifnd the same problem with nothing to do, grinding tokens from one specific dungeon over and over and over is not endgame, neither is finding every pointless nook and cranny on a map. When you ahve an 80 and can failry comment on things you have experienced yourself then come back and tell us we are all wrong.

RebelYell.7132:

Untouch.2541:

Knuckledust.5621:

Isn’t this a MMO? Or am I missing something?

Just another fanboy post trying to justify design flaws or plain lies.

What design flaws?
Mind pointing them out?

Every time you try to point them out here, the amount of crying becomes ear-shattering.

Nah, please point them out.

fanboy should become a kitten word. I hope anyone who uses it as his “argument” is below the age of 20 because it would really sadden me to see so many manchilds out there.

Thanks for sharing your enlightened perspective with us.

/sarcasm

Untouch.2541:

Knuckledust.5621:

Isn’t this a MMO? Or am I missing something?

Just another fanboy post trying to justify design flaws or plain lies.

What design flaws?
Mind pointing them out?

Mindless grind for everything past 80
No content to beat once you have 100% map completion (pve)
WvW and sPvP imbalances
classes being broken past launch with no perspective of fixes
huge amount of bugs that still happening
huge amount of bots that are not being banned
huge amount of gold spammers that are not being banned
no incentives to do dungeons
no incentives to do DEs
no incentives to keep playing whatsoever.

I have fun as long as I feel I am being rewarded for my time spent. When I spend 1 hour tackling a dungeon to be rewarded with 15s repair fees, a handful of blue drops and 20 tokens meaning I will have to go through this awful experience again, I am NOT HAVING FUN.

RebelYell.7132:

Untouch.2541:

Knuckledust.5621:

Isn’t this a MMO? Or am I missing something?

Just another fanboy post trying to justify design flaws or plain lies.

What design flaws?
Mind pointing them out?

Every time you try to point them out here, the amount of crying becomes ear-shattering.

Really? Because you people that clearly hate the game are a HELL of a lot louder than the people that are enjoying it

I doubt any of these current gamers now ever heard of a game called Shadow-Bane. It was very much hard-core and not like GW2 in a way you could even build your own villages or burn down player villages.

I agree. I love the idea of MMO’s, but this is the first one that has really “felt” like “home” for me. I especially like that there is no pressure to level past the content the dves worked so hard and lovingly to create. Yes, I am a fan of the game. I apologize for offending anyone for enjoying myself. Please forgive me for admitting this.
Have fun!

So tack on a reward to something and it instantly becomes fun?
Remove reward from same thing and it instantly becomes unfun?

Sounds to me the only thing you find fun is rewards. Why do anything, just have them mail you rewards every week. Log on, collect them, log off… oh wait, that’s WoW.

Since the quote button is gone again.

There has to be a reason to play content again. A mmorpg without longevity dies pretty fast since the playerbase just goes elsewhere. Before you go and tell me that there are no rewards in this game, what about the rare skins for running explorables over and over? You want to tell me that isn’t a grind? You want to tell me the 252k karma needed to get a full set of karma exotics isn’t a grind of doing DEs over and over?

Do you really think someone would do DEs over and over for no reward? You think somebody would bust his gear over and over in a dungeon if he didn’t get something for it in return?

As stated there’s no incentive to do DEs except for the few that reward a chest at the end, since it takes far to long to get the karma for exotics. The interim rewards really aren’t that interesting at high level. Bit of silver and exp you don’t need unless you go for Legendaries, which are an insane grind that’s even worse than the karma exotics. You can keep claiming how it’s fun, but I highly doubt a lot of people find zerging a random champion for ages fun. It’s just stand there, use auto atk and read the forum or something to pass time. Heck some you don’t even have to move from your spot once.

Dungeons are even worse now. Basically you bust your gear for quite high repair costs (if you’re in 80 exotics at least) and gain very little in return. You then have to do like 60+ runs to gain the armor sets. Again, you really think the same dungeon 20 times (considering there are 3 paths usually) stays fun? Without having some goal to aim for? I highly doubt it.

And there comes the problem. All the rewards are incredibly long term. In GW1 you had 15k armor (at least I think it was 15p? Cheapest “elite” skins) but then there were also way “better” prestige armors like for example fissure armor. Here we have Cultural and our order armor (if you can even really count that as prestige armor) as lower prestige and then suddenly a huge jump to karma and an even further jump to dungeon armor. So in a game where you’re supposed to farm cooler looking armor instead of better armor there’s like one interim option and the rest are all pretty hardcore option (putting aside the armor that was obtained by doing dungeon speedruns in a way that wasn’t intented).

There simply is very little content at lvl 80 that’s worth doing more than once. Also please don’t tell me that people are only here because they rushed and crap and it’s their fault, different people simply have different pace. Just because you haven’t arrived at 80 yet doesn’t mean others are and would like to have something they can do. I feel Anet has made a seemingly rather common mistake with focusing on very little endgame (the entire game is endgame! Yerr right) and thus leaving quite a few lv80s scratching their heads about what to do in the game.

been there, broke that. still have immense trouble enjoying the game (which makes me sad because I do want to enjoy this game).