Guild Wars 2

obviously this is a sequel to the original(duh) where guilds were formed to vie for power in the political system, or so the wiki says. so my question is, and don’t get me wrong i love the game, why does a game called guild wars 2 not have…guild wars?

the word guild does not have the same meaning as guild as in a clan of players. It’s more like “Faction Wars”

I am assuming that you did not play the first game, but if I am wrong than I am sorry for that assumption. The title of the original game “Guild Wars” was a reference to a war that took place before the game started. So basically it provides a nice back drop for the story, and some justified lore reasons why guilds are held in such high esteem.

Edit: Edited for clarity.

The real reason is because this game would not have sold as well without “Guild Wars” in the title. It has nominal ties to the original game, both in lore and gameplay unfortunately.

Senryi.4897:

I am assuming that you did not play the first game, but if I am wrong than I am sorry for that assumption. The title of the original game “Guild Wars” was a reference to a war that took place before the game started. So basically it provides a nice back drop for the story, and some justified lore reasons why guilds are held in such high esteem.

Edit: Edited for clarity.

no you’re not wrong. i didn’t play the first game. my question was mostly for irony’s sake

Lightsbane.9012:

obviously this is a sequel to the original(duh) where guilds were formed to vie for power in the political system, or so the wiki says. so my question is, and don’t get me wrong i love the game, why does a game called guild wars 2 not have…guild wars?

Ya just like Final Fantasy how many of them are there now? Its just a name it always has been and truly there is not much in names. The idea of guild wars is more then just fighting in combat with other guilds there resources if any thing GW2 has more guild vs guild then there ever was in gw1. There WvW rep for your guild there guild rep for spvp there guild rep for world events and there guild rep for guild events.

Jski.6180:

Lightsbane.9012:

obviously this is a sequel to the original(duh) where guilds were formed to vie for power in the political system, or so the wiki says. so my question is, and don’t get me wrong i love the game, why does a game called guild wars 2 not have…guild wars?

Ya just like Final Fantasy how many of them are there now? Its just a name it always has been and truly there is not much in names. The idea of guild wars is more then just fighting in combat with other guilds there resources if any thing GW2 has more guild vs guild then there ever was in gw1. There WvW rep for your guild there guild rep for spvp there guild rep for world events and there guild rep for guild events.

in my experiences in wvw, you’re a guild member, but more importantly you’re part of a server. i have trouble connecting world and guild as the same entity

Lightsbane.9012:

Jski.6180:

Lightsbane.9012:

obviously this is a sequel to the original(duh) where guilds were formed to vie for power in the political system, or so the wiki says. so my question is, and don’t get me wrong i love the game, why does a game called guild wars 2 not have…guild wars?

Ya just like Final Fantasy how many of them are there now? Its just a name it always has been and truly there is not much in names. The idea of guild wars is more then just fighting in combat with other guilds there resources if any thing GW2 has more guild vs guild then there ever was in gw1. There WvW rep for your guild there guild rep for spvp there guild rep for world events and there guild rep for guild events.

in my experiences in wvw, you’re a guild member, but more importantly you’re part of a server. i have trouble connecting world and guild as the same entity

Look at it this way “such and such guild is on this world and they do this.” Its that recognition of the guild on that server not to say the server is lesser for it but the fact that the guild is known. That why you can tell what guild ppl are from in wvw but not who they are. Its kind of like real life in a way yes who your fighting for is important but your small group is more important to the ones fighting.
Some what like the USA militarily they are fighting for the USA but they are also broken down into groups army navy and air forces. In these groups there is a feeling that I am in the Army i am in the navy etc.. At least that the way it seems to an outsider i cant comply comment on the ones inside the USA militarily.

The first GW had a war, between guilds, that finished before the events of the first game.

This is a sequel to that game.

The Guild Wars were wars amonst the three kingdoms – Ascalon, Kryta and Orr. WvW is your guild wars.

Healix.5819:

The Guild Wars were wars amonst the three kingdoms – Ascalon, Kryta and Orr. WvW is your guild wars.

It would be nice if we could see the old wars maybe new fractal events!?

Lightsbane.9012:

obviously this is a sequel to the original(duh) where guilds were formed to vie for power in the political system, or so the wiki says. so my question is, and don’t get me wrong i love the game, why does a game called guild wars 2 not have…guild wars?

they were over before the first game even started according to the time line.

Resonance.4216:

The first GW had a war, between guilds, that finished before the events of the first game.

This is a alternate sequel to that game.

Fixed. However it is very strange to not include some type of guild vs. guild system or toggle an option in the guild panel to wage war on other guilds that you’ve come in contact with.

The Guild Wars are the three wars among different guilds in the three human kingdoms of Ascalon, Kryta, and Orr. The third war ended only because the charr invasion from the north meant an even bigger threat to the three kingdoms.
Little is known abut the First Guild War, except that it was a war between Kryta and Ascalon – Orr did not join either of the first two wars.
The Second Guild War was memorialized by the construction of Surmia in 1020 AE. Ascalon was the kingdom victorious of this war according to the Historical Monument of Surmia. When it actually began or ended is unknown.
The Third Guild War lasted for 57 years (from 1013 AE until 1070 AE). The war began between Kryta and Ascalon much like the first two wars. When the two nations brought the war to Orr’s borders and within Arah’s streets, the nation rose to defend itself, escalating the conflict and resulting in casualties that eclipsed those of the previous two Guild Wars combined.
The war caused much suffering and hatred between the people of the three kingdoms, and this shows itself in the form of mistrust between certain individuals, such as King Adelbern, in the present day. During this war, public opinions of their leaders fell, which was one of the factors for Adelbern, then a war hero, being crowned as king instead of Barradin.
The Charr took advantage of the humans’ infighting and launched their own invasion, bringing an end to the Third Guild War through the Searing and, indirectly, the Cataclysm. In present day, the Third Guild War is often referred to as the Guild War.

From http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Guild_Wars

Now, I don’t doubt that the guild wars name was there at first because it was meant to be the focus of the game, and the bit of lore came afterwards to justify it, but still, it’s there..

IIRC in the personal story I think it’s Trehearne that talks about the guild wars.

locoman.1974:

The Guild Wars are the three wars among different guilds in the three human kingdoms of Ascalon, Kryta, and Orr. The third war ended only because the charr invasion from the north meant an even bigger threat to the three kingdoms.
Little is known abut the First Guild War, except that it was a war between Kryta and Ascalon – Orr did not join either of the first two wars.
The Second Guild War was memorialized by the construction of Surmia in 1020 AE. Ascalon was the kingdom victorious of this war according to the Historical Monument of Surmia. When it actually began or ended is unknown.
The Third Guild War lasted for 57 years (from 1013 AE until 1070 AE). The war began between Kryta and Ascalon much like the first two wars. When the two nations brought the war to Orr’s borders and within Arah’s streets, the nation rose to defend itself, escalating the conflict and resulting in casualties that eclipsed those of the previous two Guild Wars combined.
The war caused much suffering and hatred between the people of the three kingdoms, and this shows itself in the form of mistrust between certain individuals, such as King Adelbern, in the present day. During this war, public opinions of their leaders fell, which was one of the factors for Adelbern, then a war hero, being crowned as king instead of Barradin.
The Charr took advantage of the humans’ infighting and launched their own invasion, bringing an end to the Third Guild War through the Searing and, indirectly, the Cataclysm. In present day, the Third Guild War is often referred to as the Guild War.

From http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Guild_Wars

Now, I don’t doubt that the guild wars name was there at first because it was meant to be the focus of the game, and the bit of lore came afterwards to justify it, but still, it’s there..

IIRC in the personal story I think it’s Trehearne that talks about the guild wars.

lol. trahearne. go away treeperson.

The original Guild Wars, AKA GW1, was based around PvP as an end game. The most glorious and famed of all PvP was Guild vs. Guild. It was one of the best PvP modes ever created in game. It had observer mode, big cash rewards, ladders and tons of Pew Pew and QQ. Everyone thought it was epic and awesome and thought that GW2 would make GvG even better.

And then GW2 came.

And there was no GvG.

And everyone that liked PvP in GW1 decided to quit and play LoL.

And now they just have a game named Guild Wars2, but left out the GvG and we all can’t figure out why.

clay.7849:

The original Guild Wars, AKA GW1, was based around PvP as an end game. The most glorious and famed of all PvP was Guild vs. Guild. It was one of the best PvP modes ever created in game. It had observer mode, big cash rewards, ladders and tons of Pew Pew and QQ. Everyone thought it was epic and awesome and thought that GW2 would make GvG even better.

And then GW2 came.

And there was no GvG.

And everyone that liked PvP in GW1 decided to quit and play LoL.

And now they just have a game named Guild Wars2, but left out the GvG and we all can’t figure out why.

yeah from what i’m reading through the responses to this thread i came to the same conclusion

This game doesn’t even feature Guild Halls. WvW is just a bad excuse for the lack of gvg. After a week of playing in it, wvw just becomes tedious and boring.