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Posted by: Danicco.3568

Danicco.3568

Why?

Star of Elona
+67 Power
+67 Precision
+10% Magic Find
+18 Precision
+18 Power

Why not:

Star of Elona
+85 Power
+85 Precision
+10% Magic Find

I understand it could be to make it easier for players to compare their exotic item plus gem, but this makes ascended items feel just like they were a rushed and unthoughtful decision.
Stick by the item tooltip standards!

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Posted by: Desamos.1836

Desamos.1836

Gives ascended items this wow factor showing how many cool stats it has. Its purely aesthetics/design that characterized ascended items. I think its really cool and unique. No complaints here.

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Posted by: Shuguard.7125

Shuguard.7125

cause math is hard. I dunno why they split up the stats in that funny way. I guess it is so you can compare an exotic piece with its upgrade slot to the ascended version.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

I think that Anet did it the way they did it to make them look more beefy than they actually are. The actual differences between ascended and exotic aren’t that great. The way it’s presented makes them look huge. Look at all the stats I’m getting. It looks much bigger with the entire list than having the gem separated.

And since the fractal stuff was supposed to be some sort of bone thrown to the people who wanted gear grind, it was smart for them to make it look more powerful than it was.

Seems it fooled a lot more people than Anet thought it would. lol

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Posted by: frans.8092

frans.8092

The amulets are +15% from their exotic counterparts, which is quite substantial.

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

I think that Anet did it the way they did it to make them look more beefy than they actually are.

Quite the opposite – it helps hiding how much stronger they are, because the difference for each individual position seems numerically smaller.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

Vayne.8563

I think that Anet did it the way they did it to make them look more beefy than they actually are.

Quite the opposite – it helps hiding how much stronger they are, because the difference for each individual position seems numerically smaller.

Don’t know. For those who don’t actually sit and do the math, like me, it looks a LOT more impressive than it is. How it looks, I suspect, is quite a bit different to some people than others.

And what percent of the people actually do the math. Seeing the stats listed as they are makes me feel, personally, like it’s this huge upgrade. I’ve seen the math after the fact, and it’s not.

So I still believe it was done to convince people that it’s bigger than it is.

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Posted by: Ehra.5240

Ehra.5240

No, you’re definitely wrong. This way makes it far easier to tell at a glance that Ascended gear is better than exotics. Just to make this even more obvious, let’s see what a person with an exotic berserker’s amulet would see when hovering over an Ascended amulet with berserker’s stats:

Exotic | Ascended
90 Power | 94 Power
64 Precision | 67 Precision
5% Crit Damage | 5% Crit damage
25 Power | 32 Power
15 Precision | 18 Precision
3% Crit Damage | 4% Crit Damage

With everything arranged like this, you can tell at a glance that both the “item” attributes and “gem” attributes are higher on the Ascended item. If everything were added together on the Ascended item then you would also have to add together your equipped item’s “item” and “gem” stats in order to make a valid comparison, which takes more effort than just looking at a series of pairs and seeing which is higher. This way requires less actual math than the alternative, which makes your “Anet is hoping people won’t do the math” claim particularly strange.

Anyway, the biggest reason Ascended tooltips look like this rather than having everything added? Because that’s how all items look. When you slap a gem in any item in the game, the gem stats aren’t just added together to base stats, the gem stats are kept separate in their own section of the tooltip. This lets players see at a glance where their stats are coming from, making it easier to think about how swapping upgrades will affect them.

Ascended tooltips look the way they do because any other look would be completely inconsistent with how every other item tooltip in the game looks.

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Posted by: digiowl.9620

digiowl.9620

I find myself wondering if acended are basically exotic with a extra socket. But to avoid a major UI rework they basically prefilled the socket, locked it, and the end result is what we are seeing.