Why Guild Wars 2 is doomed: 10 years of DAOC and dissapointed.
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I played on Mordrid, what a huge waste of resources.
Every FFA server on every mmo I can think of ended up a ghost town.
I don’t think you spent more than a minute in there, at least you would know the name of the server.
I would like a PVP server, but I don’t think FFA would work for GW2. A team based PVP server would work well though. Maybe based around the Orders.
The point I’m trying to illustrate is that Anet is not going to try to target and please a certain demographic of the mmo community just for the sake of retention. They shoot for a common denominator that they feel will blanket as many players as they can. If you fall outside of that then unfortunately this isn’t your pillar mmo.
Now you are free to voice your opinion which you have, as we are free to voice our objection, which we have. But when you get down to it Anet has a course plotted for their mmo and you won’t get them to yaw left when your opinion is, judging from the responses, in the minority.
If there was some huge outcry (like diablo 3/ FFXIV) then mayhaps things would change but there’s not.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-endgame-reimagined/
Have you read this? Explain to me how GW2 PVE will win over WOW PVE in the long run. The endgame philosophy for this game is fundamentally flawed imo. I just want a PVP server where I can shelter myself from the ‘hello im 12 and this Jormagg is big and cool’-pointless events. I want to compete in a dynamic environment, and WvW is only bringing it half the way, for me. If this game wants to compete succesfully in the MMORPG server, it needs to focus on what it does best – PVP and WVW.
Even on the regular servers, we have an IMMIDENT need for faster loading of character models, and lower textures for smooth FPS, these are important issues, that will improve the endgame. Adding Charrzookas isn’t endgame, its bandages, not medicine.
I played on Mordrid, what a huge waste of resources.
Every FFA server on every mmo I can think of ended up a ghost town.
I don’t think you spent more than a minute in there, at least you would know the name of the server.
It was years ago and yes I played a decent amount. The only fun part was DF.
Sorry but it’s a massive waste of time/resources that nobody really wanted to play after the 1st month. As you know, the server was always near empty.
Welcome to reality.
(edited by MrThebigcheese.2014)
I played on Mordrid, what a huge waste of resources.
Every FFA server on every mmo I can think of ended up a ghost town.
I don’t think you spent more than a minute in there, at least you would know the name of the server.
It was years ago and yes I played a decent amount. The only fun part was when DF.
Sorry but it’s a massive waste of time/resources that nobody really wanted to play after the 1st month. As you know, the server was always near empty.
Welcome to reality.
I’m not hostile without a reason here, but would you please shut up? You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about here. Darkness Falls were open to anyone at any time on Mordred. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about. And those empty zones you’re talking about must have been the level 0-10/tutorial areas – guess what – the rest of us were busy in the high level zones, you know, playing the endgame.
I know it was always open, that’s why it was the only fun part.
The sever was always empty, nobody wanted to play. You can deny reality until the end of time it won’t change the fact that this type of server only appeals to griefers and as a result has an incredibly small audience.
Cry all you want, it’s true.
Did you even play on the server? It sounds like you didn’t spend very long there at all if you didn’t know it turned into a ghost town VERY quickly.
I played on Mordrid, what a huge waste of resources.
Every FFA server on every mmo I can think of ended up a ghost town.
I don’t think you spent more than a minute in there, at least you would know the name of the server.
It was years ago and yes I played a decent amount. The only fun part was DF.
Sorry but it’s a massive waste of time/resources that nobody really wanted to play after the 1st month. As you know, the server was always near empty.
Welcome to reality.
LOL. So ToA/SI/RVR zones on Mordred wasn’t fun for you? Boy, are we different.
I played on Mordrid, what a huge waste of resources.
Every FFA server on every mmo I can think of ended up a ghost town.
I don’t think you spent more than a minute in there, at least you would know the name of the server.
It was years ago and yes I played a decent amount. The only fun part was when DF.
Sorry but it’s a massive waste of time/resources that nobody really wanted to play after the 1st month. As you know, the server was always near empty.
Welcome to reality.
I’m not hostile without a reason here, but would you please shut up? You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about here. Darkness Falls were open to anyone at any time on Mordred. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about. And those empty zones you’re talking about must have been the level 0-10/tutorial areas – guess what – the rest of us were busy in the high level zones, you know, playing the endgame.
I know it was always open, that’s why it was the only fun part.
The sever was always empty, nobody wanted to play. You can deny reality until the end of time it won’t change the fact that this type of server only appeals to griefers and as a result has an incredibly small audience.
Cry all you want, it’s true.
Did you even play on the server? It sounds like you didn’t spend very long there at all if you didn’t know if turned into a ghost town VERY quickly.
I deleted my post because I misread your post. I thought for a second that you said that “DF changed hands”. My bad.
The point I’m trying to illustrate is that Anet is not going to try to target and please a certain demographic of the mmo community just for the sake of retention. They shoot for a common denominator that they feel will blanket as many players as they can. If you fall outside of that then unfortunately this isn’t your pillar mmo.
Now you are free to voice your opinion which you have, as we are free to voice our objection, which we have. But when you get down to it Anet has a course plotted for their mmo and you won’t get them to yaw left when your opinion is, judging from the responses, in the minority.
If there was some huge outcry (like diablo 3/ FFXIV) then mayhaps things would change but there’s not.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-endgame-reimagined/
Have you read this? Explain to me how GW2 PVE will win over WOW PVE in the long run. The endgame philosophy for this game is fundamentally flawed imo. I just want a PVP server where I can shelter myself from the ‘hello im 12 and this Jormagg is big and cool’-pointless events. I want to compete in a dynamic environment, and WvW is only bringing it half the way, for me. If this game wants to compete succesfully in the MMORPG server, it needs to focus on what it does best – PVP and WVW.
Even on the regular servers, we have an IMMIDENT need for faster loading of character models, and lower textures for smooth FPS, these are important issues, that will improve the endgame. Adding Charrzookas isn’t endgame, its bandages, not medicine.
Ok well now I’m confused first you talk about how you want a revamping of server pvp, then at the bottom here you have legitimate complaints about fps and texture issues that would improve your gameplay but haven’t been mentioned until just now. And you link to this article which is vague at best in explaining end game.
At first you were knocking the very structure and fundamentals of WvW but now it’s like you are saying, well if they would fix these issues then I’d have more fun.
The point I’m trying to illustrate is that Anet is not going to try to target and please a certain demographic of the mmo community just for the sake of retention. They shoot for a common denominator that they feel will blanket as many players as they can. If you fall outside of that then unfortunately this isn’t your pillar mmo.
Now you are free to voice your opinion which you have, as we are free to voice our objection, which we have. But when you get down to it Anet has a course plotted for their mmo and you won’t get them to yaw left when your opinion is, judging from the responses, in the minority.
If there was some huge outcry (like diablo 3/ FFXIV) then mayhaps things would change but there’s not.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-endgame-reimagined/
Have you read this? Explain to me how GW2 PVE will win over WOW PVE in the long run. The endgame philosophy for this game is fundamentally flawed imo. I just want a PVP server where I can shelter myself from the ‘hello im 12 and this Jormagg is big and cool’-pointless events. I want to compete in a dynamic environment, and WvW is only bringing it half the way, for me. If this game wants to compete succesfully in the MMORPG server, it needs to focus on what it does best – PVP and WVW.
Even on the regular servers, we have an IMMIDENT need for faster loading of character models, and lower textures for smooth FPS, these are important issues, that will improve the endgame. Adding Charrzookas isn’t endgame, its bandages, not medicine.
Ok well now I’m confused first you talk about how you want a revamping of server pvp, then at the bottom here you have legitimate complaints about fps and texture issues that would improve your gameplay but haven’t been mentioned until just now. And you link to this article which is vague at best in explaining end game.
At first you were knocking the very structure and fundamentals of WvW but now it’s like you are saying, well if they would fix these issues then I’d have more fun.
My OP basically consisted of one critique of the game philosophy, and one server-request, a PVP server would be great, but WvW rewarding in terms of character improvement over years is a fundamental philosophy that the developers isn’t paying attention to.
“Here’s the battleground, wack eachother off!” it wont be very fun for very long if you play a lot. Especially when characters models aren’t loading, and guild raiding in WvW is practically impossible unless you queue up 1 hour in advance.
edit: not impossible, but frustrating.
(edited by Torcan.2314)
Frnakly it sounds more like you want to copy WoW, you want “progression” introduced and you want PvP servers, that is WoW, Rift, SWTOR, etc, and guess what PvP falls off in every one of those games.
If you want the utter failure that is progression and the imabalance and bad PvP that causes, then guess what – GW2 is not the game for you, there are plenty of other options.
I never played Rift or SWTOR, but I did play some WoW – on a “PVP” server – and they were a prime example on how not to do PvP. I’ll give you an example, an old roommate of mine played WoW for a very long time, so 1 year ago i walked into his room and I saw he was grinding some PVE-content in the game. Suddenly, a member of the other faction pops up, and i’m like “OMFG, ALLIANCE! KILL HIM!”. He goes: “No, why would I?”
And there it is, point in case. There was no motivation to PVP on the WOW “PVP” servers.
Then go and play EVE, Tera, Mortals Online(can’t remember whether it has factions), Runes Of Magic, etc, there you can outgear people and gank like a true Pver to your hearts content.
One of the key pinciples in GW2 is balanced PvP, so they are not going to introduce any meaningful gear stat/ skills progession to cause imbalances, nor open world PvP (which outside of EVE dies a miserable death in every MMORPG), you are playing the wrong game for that, try something else.
(edited by Sylosi.6503)
Dumbest thread title ever.
The game is not what I like, hence it will die.
Oh, seriously, get something better to do.
I played on Mordrid, what a huge waste of resources.
Every FFA server on every mmo I can think of ended up a ghost town.
I don’t think you spent more than a minute in there, at least you would know the name of the server.
It was years ago and yes I played a decent amount. The only fun part was DF.
Sorry but it’s a massive waste of time/resources that nobody really wanted to play after the 1st month. As you know, the server was always near empty.
Welcome to reality.
LOL. So ToA/SI/RVR zones on Mordred wasn’t fun for you? Boy, are we different.
You are either one big troll or a whiny entitled brat. All you’ve done is insult people and deflect all arguments against you with personal opinion. This is a one way argument and let me tell you its not going your way.
Here are the facts; Anet doesn’t give a kitten about what some minority like you wants, they are making the game how they want to make it and you can’t do kitten about it. World PvP like what you are wanting isn’t possible without coding an entirely new system which would cost ridiculous amounts of money just for ONE server. They would have to take this server out of WvW completely because of the nature of it. DE would almost always fail because who is going to cooperate if everyone can attack and grief each other, removing all the events for one server would be a huge hassle on Anet because its not as simple as just despawning all the NPCs.
You know what, I’ve decided, you are just a troll. No person who actually put some thought into this would actually think that such a thing would work, or even be financially beneficial let alone be worth the time and effort.
This doesn’t work because it violates the entire design of the game. The “core” mechanic of the game is free cooperation and grouping between players — nodes, rezzes, no mob tagging, DEs. All of these would need to be ditched or substantially vandalized in order for a PvP server to work — which would do substantial violence to some of the core mechanics and design concepts of the game as a whole. No dice. Not going to happen.
It’s sad and unfortunate, but to be expected I guess, that every other post these days seems to be about how GW2 needs to be more like “my pet MMO, MMO X”. Um, not, it doesn’t. It has a core vision and one that Anet holds quite strongly. Twisting up the entire design of the game to make it more like your pet MMO is not on, and it isn’t going to happen.
Frnakly it sounds more like you want to copy WoW, you want “progression” introduced and you want PvP servers, that is WoW, Rift, SWTOR, etc, and guess what PvP falls off in every one of those games.
If you want the utter failure that is progression and the imabalance and bad PvP that causes, then guess what – GW2 is not the game for you, there are plenty of other options.
I never played Rift or SWTOR, but I did play some WoW – on a “PVP” server – and they were a prime example on how not to do PvP. I’ll give you an example, an old roommate of mine played WoW for a very long time, so 1 year ago i walked into his room and I saw he was grinding some PVE-content in the game. Suddenly, a member of the other faction pops up, and i’m like “OMFG, ALLIANCE! KILL HIM!”. He goes: “No, why would I?”
And there it is, point in case. There was no motivation to PVP on the WOW “PVP” servers.Then go and play EVE, Tera, Mortals Online(can’t remember whether it has factions), Runes Of Magic, etc, there you can outgear people and gank like a true Pver to your hearts content.
One of the key pinciples in GW2 is balanced PvP, so they are not going to introduce any meaningful gear stat/ skills progession to cause imbalances, nor open world PvP (which outside of EVE dies a miserable death in every MMORPG), you are playing the wrong game for that, try something else.
The WvW principle is unbalanced as a philosophy, and I don’t care if Anet tells you anyhting else. Gear will win. Just take a look at Kripparrians Berserker ranger lol. WvW isn’t balanced, and it never will be. Gear gives you an edge, why shouldn’t 2 years WvW give you an advantage over someone that just bought the game? It’s not like it’s not there already.
it wont be very fun for very long if you play a lot. Especially when characters models aren’t loading,
So you’re complaining about character models not loading, but you want open world PvP?
Ok well this is where you either didn’t put a thinking cap on or you purposely did this for negative attention.
You could have titled the thread;
Ideas to improve WvW,
Frustrating issues of WvW,
And so on and within the thread bring up the idea for a separate pvp server environment. Instead you chose to compare it to another game, which you know never elicits a positive response and condemn the game to doom.
If you really wanted some change in the positive then you should have made a title and explanation that would attract people to agree with your qualms and get the attention of Anet. Instead because of the vehicle you chose for your opinion you get responses like thread dumb, and everyone disagrees overall shadowing any point you had hoped to make in inane drivel.
Unless the point was just to get people worked up and you could care less for change.
it wont be very fun for very long if you play a lot. Especially when characters models aren’t loading,
So you’re complaining about character models not loading, but you want open world PvP?
It’s only happening when it’s ZvZ – at least for me – an open PVP server would never have that.
I played on Mordrid, what a huge waste of resources.
Every FFA server on every mmo I can think of ended up a ghost town.
I don’t think you spent more than a minute in there, at least you would know the name of the server.
It was years ago and yes I played a decent amount. The only fun part was DF.
Sorry but it’s a massive waste of time/resources that nobody really wanted to play after the 1st month. As you know, the server was always near empty.
Welcome to reality.
LOL. So ToA/SI/RVR zones on Mordred wasn’t fun for you? Boy, are we different.
You are either one big troll or a whiny entitled brat. All you’ve done is insult people and deflect all arguments against you with personal opinion. This is a one way argument and let me tell you its not going your way.
Here are the facts; Anet doesn’t give a kitten about what some minority like you wants, they are making the game how they want to make it and you can’t do kitten about it. World PvP like what you are wanting isn’t possible without coding an entirely new system which would cost ridiculous amounts of money just for ONE server. They would have to take this server out of WvW completely because of the nature of it. DE would almost always fail because who is going to cooperate if everyone can attack and grief each other, removing all the events for one server would be a huge hassle on Anet because its not as simple as just despawning all the NPCs.
You know what, I’ve decided, you are just a troll. No person who actually put some thought into this would actually think that such a thing would work, or even be financially beneficial let alone be worth the time and effort.
Oh, no, he’s a hardcore 10-year of experience special snowflake who deserves special treatment in whatever game he chooses to play.
Because aiming for hardcore is the way to go right? That is total common sense in the industry, which is why games such as Darkfall and Age of Conan were total successes.
Oh, wait.
No, seriously, get lost. They never promised this to be a “hardcore PvP” game. If you wasted money on something you didn’t like because you were too lazy to read the package description, that’s an issue with you, not the product.
DAOC was more garbage than runescape.
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Ok well this is where you either didn’t put a thinking cap on or you purposely did this for negative attention.
You could have titled the thread;
Ideas to improve WvW,
Frustrating issues of WvW,And so on and within the thread bring up the idea for a separate pvp server environment. Instead you chose to compare it to another game, which you know never elicits a positive response and condemn the game to doom.
If you really wanted some change in the positive then you should have made a title and explanation that would attract people to agree with your qualms and get the attention of Anet. Instead because of the vehicle you chose for your opinion you get responses like thread dumb, and everyone disagrees overall shadowing any point you had hoped to make in inane drivel.
Unless the point was just to get people worked up and you could care less for change.
To me, the game is doomed. If you wanna play with the Charrzookas, and wait in excitement for the new inferior-to-WoW PVE content, go ahead. Reality is, game is flawed – for me. Disagree all you want, and negative attentnion is better than no attentnion. The post Anet did on their ‘re-imagined’ endgame, was nothing but bad news. Just like Diablo 3, they’re expecting people to play their game for no reason, and it’s not gonna happen, at least for me.
it wont be very fun for very long if you play a lot. Especially when characters models aren’t loading,
So you’re complaining about character models not loading, but you want open world PvP?
It’s only happening when it’s ZvZ – at least for me – an open PVP server would never have that.
LMAO what? Have you ever really played an open PvP game? Are you telling me there were never zergs in the open PvP areas? You’re crazy. I think Anet should close this post.
They aren’t going to spend time making a new game experience for 1% of the population. No matter how good of an argument you think you can make. They aren’t even going to consider it for years to come. And I won’t say “never” because they might 6-10 years from now. You should go play something else until then.
it wont be very fun for very long if you play a lot. Especially when characters models aren’t loading,
So you’re complaining about character models not loading, but you want open world PvP?
It’s only happening when it’s ZvZ – at least for me – an open PVP server would never have that.
LMAO what? Have you ever really played an open PvP game? Are you telling me there were never zergs in the open PvP areas? You’re crazy. I think Anet should close this post.
They aren’t going to spend time making a new game experience for 1% of the population. No matter how good of an argument you think you can make. They aren’t even going to consider it for years to come. And I won’t say “never” because they might 6-10 years from now. You should go play something else until then.
Yeah, close all the threads made by the guys in full exos with nothing to do. No endgame is a personal opinion, right? The new Jormag event and flashy cinematics/cutscenes will keep the game entartaining, right? It’s not like the frontpage of the forum is slowly getting filled with people complaining about endgame, right? Game is fine guys, move along. Christ.
Frnakly it sounds more like you want to copy WoW, you want “progression” introduced and you want PvP servers, that is WoW, Rift, SWTOR, etc, and guess what PvP falls off in every one of those games.
If you want the utter failure that is progression and the imabalance and bad PvP that causes, then guess what – GW2 is not the game for you, there are plenty of other options.
I never played Rift or SWTOR, but I did play some WoW – on a “PVP” server – and they were a prime example on how not to do PvP. I’ll give you an example, an old roommate of mine played WoW for a very long time, so 1 year ago i walked into his room and I saw he was grinding some PVE-content in the game. Suddenly, a member of the other faction pops up, and i’m like “OMFG, ALLIANCE! KILL HIM!”. He goes: “No, why would I?”
And there it is, point in case. There was no motivation to PVP on the WOW “PVP” servers.Then go and play EVE, Tera, Mortals Online(can’t remember whether it has factions), Runes Of Magic, etc, there you can outgear people and gank like a true Pver to your hearts content.
One of the key pinciples in GW2 is balanced PvP, so they are not going to introduce any meaningful gear stat/ skills progession to cause imbalances, nor open world PvP (which outside of EVE dies a miserable death in every MMORPG), you are playing the wrong game for that, try something else.
The WvW principle is unbalanced as a philosophy, and I don’t care if Anet tells you anyhting else. Gear will win. Just take a look at Kripparrians Berserker ranger lol. WvW isn’t balanced, and it never will be. Gear gives you an edge, why shouldn’t 2 years WvW give you an advantage over someone that just bought the game? It’s not like it’s not there already.
The gear takes very little time to get, that is the point (newsflash – grinding for cosmetic items is just that cosmetic). The advantage someone who has been playign for two years over someone new is experience and practice, bads needing more of an advantage should look elsewhere, there are plenty of games with open world PvP and lopsided gear/skill/stat progression if you can’t cope with a more level playing field.
(edited by Sylosi.6503)
Frnakly it sounds more like you want to copy WoW, you want “progression” introduced and you want PvP servers, that is WoW, Rift, SWTOR, etc, and guess what PvP falls off in every one of those games.
If you want the utter failure that is progression and the imabalance and bad PvP that causes, then guess what – GW2 is not the game for you, there are plenty of other options.
I never played Rift or SWTOR, but I did play some WoW – on a “PVP” server – and they were a prime example on how not to do PvP. I’ll give you an example, an old roommate of mine played WoW for a very long time, so 1 year ago i walked into his room and I saw he was grinding some PVE-content in the game. Suddenly, a member of the other faction pops up, and i’m like “OMFG, ALLIANCE! KILL HIM!”. He goes: “No, why would I?”
And there it is, point in case. There was no motivation to PVP on the WOW “PVP” servers.Then go and play EVE, Tera, Mortals Online(can’t remember whether it has factions), Runes Of Magic, etc, there you can outgear people and gank like a true Pver to your hearts content.
One of the key pinciples in GW2 is balanced PvP, so they are not going to introduce any meaningful gear stat/ skills progession to cause imbalances, nor open world PvP (which outside of EVE dies a miserable death in every MMORPG), you are playing the wrong game for that, try something else.
The WvW principle is unbalanced as a philosophy, and I don’t care if Anet tells you anyhting else. Gear will win. Just take a look at Kripparrians Berserker ranger lol. WvW isn’t balanced, and it never will be. Gear gives you an edge, why shouldn’t 2 years WvW give you an advantage over someone that just bought the game? It’s not like it’s not there already.
The gear takes very little time to get, that is the point. The advantage someone has over two someone new is experience, bads needing more of an advantage should look elsewhere, there are plenty of games with open world PvP and lopsided gear/skill/stat progression if you can’t cope with a more level playing field.
So what do you do once you’re in full exo? Kill people in the WvWs for no reason?
it wont be very fun for very long if you play a lot. Especially when characters models aren’t loading,
So you’re complaining about character models not loading, but you want open world PvP?
It’s only happening when it’s ZvZ – at least for me – an open PVP server would never have that.
LMAO what? Have you ever really played an open PvP game? Are you telling me there were never zergs in the open PvP areas? You’re crazy. I think Anet should close this post.
They aren’t going to spend time making a new game experience for 1% of the population. No matter how good of an argument you think you can make. They aren’t even going to consider it for years to come. And I won’t say “never” because they might 6-10 years from now. You should go play something else until then.
Yeah, close all the threads made by the guys in full exos with nothing to do. No endgame is a personal opinion, right? The new Jormag event and flashy cinematics/cutscenes will keep the game entartaining, right? It’s not like the frontpage of the forum is slowly getting filled with people complaining about endgame, right? Game is fine guys, move along. Christ.
I have to ask at this point, what about Guild Wars 2 makes you care so much about it’s “failure” or “success”? Is it just because you bought the game and didn’t feel you got your money’s worth? or is it because there is something you actually LIKE about the game? Because it seems you don’t like any of it.
I love GW2. I think you are playing the wrong game.
Frnakly it sounds more like you want to copy WoW, you want “progression” introduced and you want PvP servers, that is WoW, Rift, SWTOR, etc, and guess what PvP falls off in every one of those games.
If you want the utter failure that is progression and the imabalance and bad PvP that causes, then guess what – GW2 is not the game for you, there are plenty of other options.
I never played Rift or SWTOR, but I did play some WoW – on a “PVP” server – and they were a prime example on how not to do PvP. I’ll give you an example, an old roommate of mine played WoW for a very long time, so 1 year ago i walked into his room and I saw he was grinding some PVE-content in the game. Suddenly, a member of the other faction pops up, and i’m like “OMFG, ALLIANCE! KILL HIM!”. He goes: “No, why would I?”
And there it is, point in case. There was no motivation to PVP on the WOW “PVP” servers.Then go and play EVE, Tera, Mortals Online(can’t remember whether it has factions), Runes Of Magic, etc, there you can outgear people and gank like a true Pver to your hearts content.
One of the key pinciples in GW2 is balanced PvP, so they are not going to introduce any meaningful gear stat/ skills progession to cause imbalances, nor open world PvP (which outside of EVE dies a miserable death in every MMORPG), you are playing the wrong game for that, try something else.
The WvW principle is unbalanced as a philosophy, and I don’t care if Anet tells you anyhting else. Gear will win. Just take a look at Kripparrians Berserker ranger lol. WvW isn’t balanced, and it never will be. Gear gives you an edge, why shouldn’t 2 years WvW give you an advantage over someone that just bought the game? It’s not like it’s not there already.
The gear takes very little time to get, that is the point. The advantage someone has over two someone new is experience, bads needing more of an advantage should look elsewhere, there are plenty of games with open world PvP and lopsided gear/skill/stat progression if you can’t cope with a more level playing field.
So what do you do once you’re in full exo? Kill people in the WvWs for no reason?
Yes.. you should actually do that just for the FUN something you no longer seem to know , having been brainwashed by the mmo industry.
The reason they don’t add a single PvP server is simple… making a PvP server would mean a complete redesign of the game.
The whole game is based on the idea of dynamic events, heart quests are meant to be an introduction and they become rarer the more you advance into the game. Lots of events are chaotic enough as they are, how do you suggest them working if you start also hitting other players anytime you do an AoE (or any attack that hits any enemy in front of you)? Events would be impossible to do as they are right now, meaning they’d need to redesign them all around the PvP rule.
They might do it in the future, something like the luxon/kurziks thing in Factions with areas where you might fight for territory and outposts control, and design those areas from the ground up with open PvP in mind… but the way the game is right now, open PvP just would not work without a huge redesign of the whole game.
It’s a pile of Elonian protection magic, mixed with a little monk training,
wrapped up in some crazy ritualist hoo-ha from Cantha.
A real grab bag of ‘you can’t hurt me. They’re called Guardians.
wrapped up in some crazy ritualist hoo-ha from Cantha.
A real grab bag of ‘you can’t hurt me. They’re called Guardians.
Frnakly it sounds more like you want to copy WoW, you want “progression” introduced and you want PvP servers, that is WoW, Rift, SWTOR, etc, and guess what PvP falls off in every one of those games.
If you want the utter failure that is progression and the imabalance and bad PvP that causes, then guess what – GW2 is not the game for you, there are plenty of other options.
I never played Rift or SWTOR, but I did play some WoW – on a “PVP” server – and they were a prime example on how not to do PvP. I’ll give you an example, an old roommate of mine played WoW for a very long time, so 1 year ago i walked into his room and I saw he was grinding some PVE-content in the game. Suddenly, a member of the other faction pops up, and i’m like “OMFG, ALLIANCE! KILL HIM!”. He goes: “No, why would I?”
And there it is, point in case. There was no motivation to PVP on the WOW “PVP” servers.Then go and play EVE, Tera, Mortals Online(can’t remember whether it has factions), Runes Of Magic, etc, there you can outgear people and gank like a true Pver to your hearts content.
One of the key pinciples in GW2 is balanced PvP, so they are not going to introduce any meaningful gear stat/ skills progession to cause imbalances, nor open world PvP (which outside of EVE dies a miserable death in every MMORPG), you are playing the wrong game for that, try something else.
The WvW principle is unbalanced as a philosophy, and I don’t care if Anet tells you anyhting else. Gear will win. Just take a look at Kripparrians Berserker ranger lol. WvW isn’t balanced, and it never will be. Gear gives you an edge, why shouldn’t 2 years WvW give you an advantage over someone that just bought the game? It’s not like it’s not there already.
The gear takes very little time to get, that is the point. The advantage someone has over two someone new is experience, bads needing more of an advantage should look elsewhere, there are plenty of games with open world PvP and lopsided gear/skill/stat progression if you can’t cope with a more level playing field.
So what do you do once you’re in full exo? Kill people in the WvWs for no reason?
For FUN and other long term titles and badges for legendary weapons.
God, stop with the hurr duurr I need increasing numbers to have any incentive to keep playing the game. I played GW1 for 5 years without stat progression. Give me a break here.
it wont be very fun for very long if you play a lot. Especially when characters models aren’t loading,
So you’re complaining about character models not loading, but you want open world PvP?
It’s only happening when it’s ZvZ – at least for me – an open PVP server would never have that.
LMAO what? Have you ever really played an open PvP game? Are you telling me there were never zergs in the open PvP areas? You’re crazy. I think Anet should close this post.
They aren’t going to spend time making a new game experience for 1% of the population. No matter how good of an argument you think you can make. They aren’t even going to consider it for years to come. And I won’t say “never” because they might 6-10 years from now. You should go play something else until then.
Yeah, close all the threads made by the guys in full exos with nothing to do. No endgame is a personal opinion, right? The new Jormag event and flashy cinematics/cutscenes will keep the game entartaining, right? It’s not like the frontpage of the forum is slowly getting filled with people complaining about endgame, right? Game is fine guys, move along. Christ.
I have to ask at this point, what about Guild Wars 2 makes you care so much about it’s “failure” or “success”? Is it just because you bought the game and didn’t feel you got your money’s worth? or is it because there is something you actually LIKE about the game? Because it seems you don’t like any of it.
The game is good, the game is very good. But it needs to be tweaked if it wants to grow, and even keep players in the game. As of now, there’s no endgame, and competing with WoW, which is a subscription-based game, will only mean that GW2 will become a discount version of it. I made the thread because the game has so much potential, but I feel like it’s gonna be wasted because Anet is focusing on the wrong things. PVP is their thing, WvW is their thing, not PvE. This is why i suggested that a big part of the endgame should come from WvW and playerkilling, because that’s whats fun once you get your char geared up and ready.
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