Guild Wars 2

Here’s my math on the Ultimate pricing:

Character Slot: $10
Mini Revenant Rytlock: $5 (based off normal mini pricing not considering exclusive factor)
Revenant Finisher: $10 (again not even considering exclusive factor)
Mordremoth’s Bane Decoration: Nothing like this in game so I’ll just say $10
Glider Skin: Nothing like this in game so I’ll just say $10
Gems: $50
Expansion itself: 40-50, I’ll even say $40 for the final number

$135 then by my math, not counting the base game. So we aren’t being cheated, it’s just new players get more

The problem was never the price to me, but the fact that a new player who buys the game now gets more than an old player who got the game for the same price. If I don’t buy AGAIN the game/expansion now, then I get less then somebody who purchases it today for the first time.
A new player gets the base game for free.
A player who has the game gets nothing. Basically if we don’t buy the game again we can’t play the expansion.

I never said new players didn’t get more. That I can’t deny, and they should deliver something to the accounts of all veterans who buy the expansion.

The way I look at it,

I paid 50 bucks for the base game back when it released. Worth it.
Now the pricetag is 50 bucks AGAIN? Am I getting the same amount of content as I did for the first 50 bucks I spent when I bought the base game years ago?

I don’t think so lol. The amount of content for the price tag does not match up at all.
Factions, Nightfall had 2 new classes, loads of new areas and features that nearly doubled up prophecies…. HoT is not even coming CLOSE to factions/nightfall in terms of content and yet the price tag is just as hefty??? that makes no sense at all

paid 50 bucks for base game of gw2..pay 50 bucks again but for MUCH LESS content?? ya thats fair pricing.

The very least they could do is add a character slot so we can even try out the new class but no, thats an extra 10 bucks just to try the new class… so 60 bucks? for even LESS content than what I paid for when I bought gw2? perfectly reasonable lol

With how the cheapest advertizement reads, We are buying a new account since it comes with the core game.

I already have an account and I refuse to pay for another account.

I’m sending the link to the pre-purchase page to an attorney along with the advertizements for the core game showing the core game being $39.99 while the lowest offered is $49.99 since they do not have an “Expansion Only” option for those of us that already have the core game.

This means those of us that already have accounts should have $39.99 knocked off those prices.

I’m just waiting on ANet Support’s response.

Fenom.9457:

Here’s my math on the Ultimate pricing:

Character Slot: $10
Mini Revenant Rytlock: $5 (based off normal mini pricing not considering exclusive factor)
Revenant Finisher: $10 (again not even considering exclusive factor)
Mordremoth’s Bane Decoration: Nothing like this in game so I’ll just say $10
Glider Skin: Nothing like this in game so I’ll just say $10
Gems: $50
Expansion itself: 40-50, I’ll even say $40 for the final number

$135 then by my math, not counting the base game. So we aren’t being cheated, it’s just new players get more

Well, the problem with that is that I wouldn’t consider a mini to actually be worth $5 of my money, nor a finisher $10, nor a glider skin $10, nor a decoration $10, nor gems $50. So for me it’s like paying $50 extra for what I’d consider to be at most a $15 value.

They’re making the package seem like a great deal by throwing in things which they themselves dictate the value of. It’s like when an infomercial advertises that what they’re offering is a $300 value when half of that is composed of automatic toothpick dispensers and other things you’d never reasonably spend your money on.

OP, the problem a lot of us are having isn’t the value of the Ultimate Edition, it’s the base priced one. Simply being, the cost of entry should be lower. I was estimating the base/vanilla expansion to be about about $30-$40. If I owned only one account I would probably get the Ultimate one too. But, for me to do that now it would cost more than some make in a whole month! That’s the other issue with pricing, it’s appears to be based around the high cost of living area’s of the US. $100 is a lot of money in other parts of the planet when you factor in exchange rates.

DeWolfe.2174:

OP, the problem a lot of us are having isn’t the value of the Ultimate Edition, it’s the base priced one. Simply being, the cost of entry should be lower. I was estimating the base/vanilla expansion to be about about $30-$40. If I owned only one account I would probably get the Ultimate one too. But, for me to do that now it would cost more than some make in a whole month! That’s the other issue with pricing, it’s appears to be based around the high cost of living area’s of the US. $100 is a lot of money in other parts of the planet when you factor in exchange rates.

Don’t forget that areas around Seattle have a $15 minimum wage.

The HOT expansion is not expansion pricing. It’s new game pricing. There is a lot of misunderstanding about and I’m going to jump on the bandwagon with this one…I don’t understand why the apologists are coming out and trying to defend the pricing on HOT. You can throw in $100 worth of vanity items, but if vanity items are not useful to me, they are unnecessary filler. With the original game, I plunked down $60. 2 years later, I bought the deluxe edition with gems. It wasn’t worth the price, even discounted, for the vanity items. In hindsight, I’m very glad I didn’t fork up the extra up front for it.

So, here we are with round two. Lots of vanity items and I completely understand that you get quite the deal if you were wanting those items. For those of us who don’t, or perhaps are willing to wait for awhile to get them separately, we should have a simple basic expansion price. I have 3 accounts in my household. I don’t need a 4th. What is the bonus core game going to do for me?

In the end, if I’m paying a full games price for a game, I expect a full game. I can see how GW2 + HOT expansion = $50. I do and if you haven’t played before, that’s a great price. But for those of us who already have GW2, the bonus core game does nothing. As I will be paying whatever Anet reasonably asks for to get into the expansion (including this $50 business), I’m not going to be as supportive of them if I find the expansion is not on par with the original GW2 in regards to content. We already know this isn’t going to be the case. We have ‘addons’ to existing professions…not 8 new ones. We don’t have 5 new starter zones for our 5 new races. We don’t have a fistful of new crafting. etc.

Base expansion should be $30. $40 with extra fluff and character slot and up from there for more of the vanity filler. You want to charge $50 for an expansion, it better be worth it more than some vanity items.

I don’t know why everyone is freaking out about the price, look at all the money we saved by not having to buy a subscription for the last 3 years, how dare they sell an expansion to a b2p game >:D

But why does it have to include the core game, there should be a version without the core game which is minus the current cost of the core game for current players.

Mightylink.3816:

I don’t know why everyone is freaking out about the price, look at all the money we saved by not having to buy a subscription for the last 3 years, how dare they sell an expansion to a b2p game >:D

Do you know why they don’t ask for a subscription? Because they actually get more money with the cash shop. Sure, maybe you’re one of those cheap guys who never pay for anything but others actually do pay.

For me the problem of the 50$ is that they’re asking for pretty much the same price as for the core game when it came out and yet Hot seems to have way less content.

Mightylink.3816:

I don’t know why everyone is freaking out about the price, look at all the money we saved by not having to buy a subscription for the last 3 years, how dare they sell an expansion to a b2p game >:D

Well you aren’t part of the “everything should be free/ANet are money grubbing ladies of questionable repute” crowd. They have a strong voice here along with hardcore GW players, Nexon haters and anyone who became disappointed because GW2 wasn’t the idealized version they thought they were getting.

Those people are back in force this week. Anyone with an ax to grind is back to protest things about a game that they have long since stopped playing and will actively try to get more players on their side or discourage potential new players from every trying out the game. The hate is strong with them.

The price of the core game has been dropping ever since release. Recently it was being sold for as little as $10. Now the core game is free. Whats the big deal?

DVD’s are like $20 at release, but end up in a bargain bin for $5 after a couple years – early adopters of ANYTHING always pay more. That’s just life.

LOL “39.99 should be knocked off” u are aware the value of the base game has prolly decreased by atleast 70% in price due the new release of the expansion.

If anything the base game would have costed u £5-10 ($8-15 Dollars) why would u ever assume TODAY the base game is Worth more then the expansion?… it 100x over is Defintly not… its not even worth half the price.

The fact is, as Arena Net said, the base cost for the Expansion alone was $50 (£34) New Players are not getting the game as a BUNDLE they have simply made the game itself free which means u are paying £0 as a old or new player for Guild wars base game, its Worthless Litterally worthless,.

THere was never a bundle just cause they decided to give a Old version out free doesnt make it have any representation in the price, ur just making a assumption in hope you manage to get something cheap/free.