Guild Wars 2

I just read through some dev responses, and botting was one thing that was mentioned but ‘we are dealing with more important things first.’

I have to say, the dozens of botters I have seen, the numerous reports, the many videos posted showing hacking and botting going on at the same time, across all servers, is ridiculous. These folks aren’t just botting, they’re selling gold outside the TP, and flooding the TP with items. The psychological hit to many players who see these botters and who realize they are ‘missing out’ on tons of gold that they could have otherwise if they started up a botting program themselves while they sleep is pretty bad. The long-term inflation and large-scale third party gold selling also damages the economy and playerbase as a whole.

So not sure how this is not one of the top priorities checked every single day.

Maybe it’s not ‘the most urgent thing to fix’ right now, and I assure you I am very much accepting that there will always be bots, but the lack of having a single employee go around each server to the common botting spots and /ban all the folks who are doing it – easily doable in a single work day – is discouraging. I don’t mind weapon clipping, or any of the other bugs, but blatantly allowing botters and now telling them ‘ehhh not a priority keep on botting, hope you make it profitable enough before we ban you’ is not good.

Probably the worst thing is the immersion lost from seeing players every day teleporting around and botting. I’m surprised that at this level of lack of attention, there’s not more people using it in WvW.

Even if you’re working on it, allowing it to happen long enough to ‘make it profitable’ for them is too long. Security should always be a top priority.

I would like to know this aswell.

Why are botters not a priority?

I’d say because there are a whole bunch of other areas that are bugged that are actively interfering with your ability to play the game. I’d call that a priority.

Wholeheartedley agree with you. How hard can it be for a single person (GM) to visit the usual farming points in the late game? Bots can easily be spotted at those places all the time. Its very frustrating as a player to report this kind of activity and log every day to see the exact same bots in the same place. I have to farm my Powerful Blood killing troll number 3242525352 and facing diminishing returns on drops while these guys are hacking all day long with no consequences.

Anet. I support the game 100% but i cant understand your attitude surrounding this issue. I know you guys must be busy fixing bugs and stuff… but really nerfing dungeons is more important that banning cheaters out of your game???

dudes, they are a priority, but you cannot expect anet to deal with each individual report as the only mechanism of combating the bots. this is why you don’t really see the bots you have reported a thousand times disappearing.

based on my own experience in eve online, what they might be doing is gathering data on bot detection. once enough data is compiled, can they take one big fatal sweep of account bans. once that sweep is done, any bots that use the previously detected methods will be automatically detected and dealt with, while the team continues gathering more data to combat the next round of bots.

it’s a forever war that can’t really be won, only mitigated.

Lol, how can you say that ANet consider them a priority when they’ve yet to take any noticeable action towards them 1 month after the game’s been released? They’ve basically been a problem from day one, and we’ve seen or heard zilch.

As Synapse suggested, it wouldn’t really be a though job for GM to do some fieldwork. Or why not just have some sort of in-game confirmation for a while until ANet sort their kitten out, so they know that there’s a human being playing that specific character.

you didn’t really address what i said, but i can understand your frustration. i feel it too, but know to be patient.

Thats a good point.
The data gathering would be a good excuse for not banning them immediately.
Hope youre right.

I think the teleport hacks should be easy to detect. I dont know why its possible anyway.

But I am happy that the character position is the onlything the hackers can manipulate.

Imagine immortal porting bots that deal 100k damage and clear a whole map or even dungeons in a few seconds. That would be insane.

Gao Gao: I only addressed your upper paragraph. I also did some editing. Mistyped and kitten.

For how many years ncsoft was gathering data in Lineage 2 and Aion ?

Aion US is still infected with bot plague while Aion Gameforge is doing much better

I think to some degree there needs to be something done about the bots that doesn’t hurt the current player such as anti-botting code. As it stands, it actually doesn’t just ruin the economy but it ruins the social aspect and the quality of the game. I’ve ignored many people in Orr because I figured they were bots just farming events, some are more obvious than others.

It should be noted that it isn’t just a few bots but rather Orr is literally infested with bots and it completely ruins any form of quality control and has made me annoyed often when I see bots.

Vexus.5423:

I just read through some dev responses, and botting was one thing that was mentioned but ‘we are dealing with more important things first.’

I have to say, the dozens of botters I have seen, the numerous reports, the many videos posted showing hacking and botting going on at the same time, across all servers, is ridiculous. These folks aren’t just botting, they’re selling gold outside the TP, and flooding the TP with items. The psychological hit to many players who see these botters and who realize they are ‘missing out’ on tons of gold that they could have otherwise if they started up a botting program themselves while they sleep is pretty bad. The long-term inflation and large-scale third party gold selling also damages the economy and playerbase as a whole.

So not sure how this is not one of the top priorities checked every single day.

Maybe it’s not ‘the most urgent thing to fix’ right now, and I assure you I am very much accepting that there will always be bots, but the lack of having a single employee go around each server to the common botting spots and /ban all the folks who are doing it – easily doable in a single work day – is discouraging. I don’t mind weapon clipping, or any of the other bugs, but blatantly allowing botters and now telling them ‘ehhh not a priority keep on botting, hope you make it profitable enough before we ban you’ is not good.

Probably the worst thing is the immersion lost from seeing players every day teleporting around and botting. I’m surprised that at this level of lack of attention, there’s not more people using it in WvW.

Even if you’re working on it, allowing it to happen long enough to ‘make it profitable’ for them is too long. Security should always be a top priority.

Let me make it clear that i agree that botters need to be handle with but i do not agree with whats being said.

1. How do you know they are botters?

2. How does these botters affect your gameplay? Economically, they should not have any noticeable impact on your ability to accumulate wealth since all botters combine probably will not even account for 1% of the global wealth.

3. psychological impact… really? Do you feel bad that you missed out on your ability to generate easy money by selling illegal drugs?

1) Pretty easy to spot. No armor, teleporting everywhere, attacking empty space when DEs is not active.

2) Normally it doesn’t but when enough of them camp a DE hotspot it becomes hard for normal players to earn more just the completion award and really quite ruin the play experience from the DE.

3) Can’t really comment about this.

Who here remembers the days Monkbots owned Elonas Reach? Well for those that dont It was mission in Guildwars 1 that was overrun with "invincimonks " to the point zoning in could make some people lag out and then one day all the monkbots went poof as if none of them had ever existed.

Sky.7610:

Vexus.5423:

I just read through some dev responses, and botting was one thing that was mentioned but ‘we are dealing with more important things first.’

I have to say, the dozens of botters I have seen, the numerous reports, the many videos posted showing hacking and botting going on at the same time, across all servers, is ridiculous. These folks aren’t just botting, they’re selling gold outside the TP, and flooding the TP with items. The psychological hit to many players who see these botters and who realize they are ‘missing out’ on tons of gold that they could have otherwise if they started up a botting program themselves while they sleep is pretty bad. The long-term inflation and large-scale third party gold selling also damages the economy and playerbase as a whole.

So not sure how this is not one of the top priorities checked every single day.

Maybe it’s not ‘the most urgent thing to fix’ right now, and I assure you I am very much accepting that there will always be bots, but the lack of having a single employee go around each server to the common botting spots and /ban all the folks who are doing it – easily doable in a single work day – is discouraging. I don’t mind weapon clipping, or any of the other bugs, but blatantly allowing botters and now telling them ‘ehhh not a priority keep on botting, hope you make it profitable enough before we ban you’ is not good.

Probably the worst thing is the immersion lost from seeing players every day teleporting around and botting. I’m surprised that at this level of lack of attention, there’s not more people using it in WvW.

Even if you’re working on it, allowing it to happen long enough to ‘make it profitable’ for them is too long. Security should always be a top priority.

Let me make it clear that i agree that botters need to be handle with but i do not agree with whats being said.

1. How do you know they are botters?

2. How does these botters affect your gameplay? Economically, they should not have any noticeable impact on your ability to accumulate wealth since all botters combine probably will not even account for 1% of the global wealth.

3. psychological impact… really? Do you feel bad that you missed out on your ability to generate easy money by selling illegal drugs?

Enabler posters……sigh

This from an ex multi box botter (not this game or recent games)

I’ve posted in numerous bot threads,trying to make ignorant players aware of the damage that botting does to games that are not designed with botting in mind.

Currently I have only three towers sitting before me(and I’ve downscaled my number of rigs).Each capable of running ten bots 24/7.With 30 bots running 24/7 for a month I can single handedly ruin my servers TP econ,in a couple of different ways.

FYI: Botters make up the majority of the top 1% wealth owners in online games.

I can destroy any hope that a solo wandering adventurer may have of completing an event with maximum rewards,making that player consider moving to a less bot infested game.

If I decide to take my bots to WvW,I dispalce quite possibly hundreds of players on my server queueing up to play,as the bots WILL be sitting in there 24/7 for who knows how long.

Botters,pro or amateur add,absolutely nothing to your servers community,economy or gameplay that is beneficial.

Live active dedicated server GMs are the only way t deter botters.And banning on a daiily basis is the only way t financially crush the pro botters.Mass bans once a month do nt deter botting.

I want them to kill the bots as well, but they are probably tracking down all the locations and IPs that the bots are running off…

lol no, they have other priorities? Great, I’ll start running my bot now and wake up with a few extra gold and a ton of Karma.

I really wish they were not there but until ANet has time we have to be patient (and bot on our alt accounts!)

Botters have already had huge, far-reaching effects on the GW2 economy. Why do you think there’s anti-farming protocol in effect?

Temper, I don’t know much about bots, but this insight is amazing. I personally appreciate your openness on this issue.

In this game, how many GM’s would it take per server to effectively control bots? Are there any other ways to combat this issue? Are all these bots stolen / pirated accounts, or have they purchased each license?

I think ArenaNet should put people like you on the payroll.

ChaosKirin.1328:

Botters have already had huge, far-reaching effects on the GW2 economy. Why do you think there’s anti-farming protocol in effect?

Pretty much this

Anet may very well be about to blitz botters with a mass ban and simultaneously add GMs to servers or botkill progs,I dunno.

But what then,are they going to rectify the econ with rollbacks? Will Anet improve item,gold,karma tables and encounter scaling for legit players ?

Maybe Anet have a master plan. =P

I hope it works to alls satisfaction.

Hello

Opening thread about botters doesnt help dealing with them. Please, refrain from opening these kind of threads. Bos are being taken care of.

Therefore, Im closing this thread
Thanks