Guild Wars 2

This is not really a problem for spvp, the itemization is there for you to do a proper condition build.

But for PVE/WvW, at level 80 in top gear…you can’t properly gear yourself for condition damage.

First, the backpack slot: Currently the best items for the back slot are the 3 rare level 80 guild backpacks. None even have condition damage on them, in any form.

Earrings/Rings/Amulet. All the level 80 crafted exotics, they all have power. Every crafted one has power on it. Some have both power and condition damage, suboptimal for a pure condition damage build. Then you’ve got the badge WvWvW accessories. Those are power/vit/toughness. Nice to have that available for power builds, you can’t craft that setup. Of course, that does no good for condition builds.

The 6 main armor slots: For light armor if you want to do cond/prec/toughness 4 of the 6 armor slots are covered by the orr karma items, you can mix and match to cover that. For chest and boots, I believe to get cond/prec/toughness you need the khilbron boots and chest, quite rare items that run like 10g each. Well at least the itemization is technically available…for this specific setup.

We need ways to cover 3 different stat layouts to put condition damage on par with power at max level

Condition/Prec/Toughness

Condition/Prec/Vitality

Condition/Vit/Toughness

Currently there is no way to itemize all your gear slots in ANY of those 3 layouts, with the 6 “accessory” slots being extremely lacking and not even close.

Meanwhile with power, while not perfect, you can mix and match to come up with whatever power based layout you’re shooting for.

If there’s some wonky way to do good condition setups on your accessories with some sort of rare drops on exotic lev 80 accessories I don’t know about, I apologize. I don’t think there is though, and even if there is, it shouldn’t be necessary. The game isn’t about that kind of thing.

Bump, I am being forced to build for power on my engineer when I want to do a condition build. The stats I wan’t are not available outside of sPvP and it is very frustrating to not be able to do similar condition builds in WvW/PvE as I can in sPvP.

I can get a templegod armor set with the stats I want but I am unable to get accessories or weapons with the stats I need.

Please arenanet, add PvE Condition/Presision/Toughness sets

Sundial.9015:

Bump, I am being forced to build for power on my engineer when I want to do a condition build. The stats I wan’t are not available outside of sPvP and it is very frustrating to not be able to do similar condition builds in WvW/PvE as I can in sPvP.

I can get a templegod armor set with the stats I want but I am unable to get accessories or weapons with the stats I need.

Please arenanet, add PvE Condition/Presision/Toughness sets

Absolutely. In fact your post made me notice I didn’t even mention the weapons themselves! Which also have the same stat problem.

I’m doing something similar on my necromancer. Doing a power build. I like the power build but I want to try the condition build too at an optimized level.

Minion of Vey.4398:

This is not really a problem for spvp, the itemization is there for you to do a proper condition build.

But for PVE/WvW, at level 80 in top gear…you can’t properly gear yourself for condition damage.

I have a set of Shiro’s armor for my engineer, but I believe you are looking for light armor. There might be a light armor equivalent that gives power, vitality and condition damage. The Shiro set has done wonders for my PvE and Wv3. For my engineer build, I have optimized firepower, condition damage and survivability with virtually no emphasis on critical hits. I think some professions lend themselves more to critical damage, but the engineer is not one of them IMO. Melee specialists like thieves and warriors can dish out some serious critical damage with the right build.

You can craft Power/Vitality/Condition, it’s called Carrion

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

You can craft Power/Vitality/Condition, it’s called Carrion

We know, we want condition damage sets replacing power with condition damage like the one available in sPvP (Condition Damage/Prescision/Toughness).

Can your conditions crit? Why want precision?

mulch.2586:

Can your conditions crit? Why want precision?

Because some builds use prescision to stack conditions…

Why do you think they offer that stat combination in sPvP?

I have no idea how to quote people.

“We know, we want condition damage sets replacing power with condition damage like the one available in sPvP (Condition Damage/Prescision/Toughness).”

This set (condition damage/precision/toughness) exists on the Twilight Arbor exotic set. At least,for heavy armor.

Evagal.2584:

I have no idea how to quote people.

“We know, we want condition damage sets replacing power with condition damage like the one available in sPvP (Condition Damage/Prescision/Toughness).”

This set (condition damage/precision/toughness) exists on the Twilight Arbor exotic set. At least,for heavy armor.

Yes, it also exists for the karma exotics.

The problem is it doesn’t exist for weapons or accessories.

If it exists on the dungeon armor, it exists on the dungeon weapons

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

If it exists on the dungeon armor, it exists on the dungeon weapons

Ok, that is one thing off the list. We are still left with no accessories.

Sundial.9015:

Yes, it also exists for the karma exotics.

The problem is it doesn’t exist for weapons or accessories.

That’s right. I had the same problem for my engineer condition build, but moreso for weapons. I use a cleric’s pearl pistol/shield combination that gives me a nice boost of power, healing and toughness, which is in line with my battle doctrine of firepower and survivability.

Condition builds are pretty bad for anything other than solo play until they change the way conditions work. 25 stacks max and only the top condition damage player gets to do any damage. Having said that, going pure condition and skipping out on power altogether is a horrible way to go about building our character. You need a healthy dose of both, even if you want to focus more on conditions.

Artorous.8573:

Condition builds are pretty bad for anything other than solo play until they change the way conditions work. 25 stacks max and only the top condition damage player gets to do any damage. Having said that, going pure condition and skipping out on power altogether is a horrible way to go about building our character. You need a healthy dose of both, even if you want to focus more on conditions.

Works great for me in sPVP, with the itemization available. I want the same itemization opportunity available to me in WvWvW. That’s it.

Whether you think it’s viable or not is outside the scope of this thread.

Sundial.9015:

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

If it exists on the dungeon armor, it exists on the dungeon weapons

Ok, that is one thing off the list. We are still left with no accessories.

Though I call into question why someone needs to run an explorable dungeon repeatedly for a proper condition damage weapon, when a proper power weapon is buyable on the TP for a couple gold. That’s clearly against the game’s design philosophy.

But yes, exotic lev 80 weapons with cond/prec/toughness are available on the twilight arbor vendor.

precision toughness condition dmg weapons and armor are also available from hotw