Guild Wars 2

I am sick of loading into Southsun south waypoint, to have a wall of gray text hit me by role players.

The role players get ‘naked’ on the beach there, and role play their fantasies or whatever – and I do not want to read that!

They use the /me command, and spam whatever they want.

Why can’t they do it in private? I do not want to read about where the sand gets, or how much they want to kiss, or do many other things, that I think should be done in private.

They have whisper, party, and guild channels, – why do they HAVE to use a public channel for their cyber role play, it’s just rude!

I know I can take off emotes in the game, but then I’d miss my friends waving at me, and I don’t see why I should have to do that.

I know I can block the offending players, but there are so many of them, and I can’t spell some of their names, as I’d have to concentrate and read their role play to read their names, and I don’t want to do that. I could go and stand on the beach to click and block, but not all of them are there (some hide in a hut or on a ship), and why should I have to take time out to block even more players (I have 40 blocked atm, and there were another 7 there today).

I have no problem at all with players wanting to role play – what I’m saying is, can you just do it in private please, as I don’t want my chat window filled with unwanted spam.

There are 2 solutions I can think of, and I’m going to ask that Arenanet consider these:

1. Make a map wide role play chat channel, that players can choose to turn off (not the emotes channel).

2. Make a role play island. Have varied stages/places/habitats there, and have props eg chairs etc that role players can use. Then they can all have fun role playing and doing whatever they want, and regular players don’t have to read their walls of text.

I feel the need to make an instance solely for you, where you can do anything you want without being irritated by other players.

They’re already on southsun! Who goes there besides Karka Queen?!

You can block them from the chat panel.

I do agree that emote range is ridiculously long.

I would kill for your #2 suggestion.

Oh, and many role players did voice their concerns about this happening when the megaservers were introduced. Previously they were “isolated” on the unofficial RP servers (Piken Square and Tarnished Coast). Now they’re naturally (pun totally intended) on every server.

Unseenstrike.2971:

Why can’t they do it in private?

The short answer is – if they could, they would. Remember, that it works both ways – when you are irritated by what you consider a constant RP “spam”, the roleplayers would also like to be able to roleplay without outside interruption and interference.

This has been brought up many times already by the roleplaying community. So far, Anet actions have only made the situation worse (closing entrances to Salma District area hidden “behind” home instance, Megaserver merging unofficial RP servers with everyone else).
And unfortunately, only Anet can do something about it. Whatever options RP communities have, they are already using (sitting in Southsun, where almost noone ever comes outside of Karka Queen event certainly qualifies ;P).

Unseenstrike.2971:

I know I can block the offending players,

I’ve never met A SINGLE ONE during my year in the game…

Most likely they’re just from the same server as you. If they’re doing offensive stuff – report, they’ll get suspended/banned, as GW2 is vary strict with this kind of stuff; if they’re not removed – then you’ll have to get over it (use other waypoints?) since it’s a multiplayer game, one can’t please everyone, and apparently they’re not writing offensive enough stuff.

I’m chuckling at your annoyance. Kudos to the ERPers.

just disable emotes?

just a thought?

Click on the small arrow, next to the chat windows, find /emote and reove the check from checkbox, you could make a second tab with eveything you need if you want, and just make it show emotes, so you can just tab and have it dissapear…

if they would use map chat it would be slightly annoying, but I doubt so.

I’m a roleplayer and I only very, very infrequently stumble across RP that isn’t reasonably tasteful. Hate to say it OP, but you sound like you’re both exaggerating and over-reacting.

Chances are extremely good that if you do come across such people, you could send them a tell asking them to take it to party and there’s a pretty good chance that they would.

I’m gonna speculatively suppose this has not been attempted though. Your post isn’t exactly oozing ‘reasonability’, so it doesn’t incline me to suspect a largess of reasonable deeds.

Give it a whirl though. Sometimes, asking people nicely to not do X or to please do Y can work.

And if it doesn’t and they’re breaking ToS chat rules, report and ignore.

Also reasonable.

I am on Piken Square (which was the unofficial EU RP server before the megaserver update) ankitten ot an RPer. I can say for sure that I have rarely seen RPers without knowingly seeking them out in the well known “hiding places” (as sad as it is, they already have to hide on specific maps in order to not bother others or be bothered by emote spamming trolls).

The exception would be the public pub RP in LA – and these are rather well written, considering the main contents of these RPs are

• picking up mugs/a bottle/glass of some kind of drink
• sipping from it
• glaring/staring/smirking/whatever at somebody else for whatever reason
• etc.

(of course they also contain dialogue, I’m just admiring what trivial things can become good RP when well written…)

I have to admit that I enjoy reading those lines while crafting/TPing/MFing. In my opinion the RP makes the game seem much more alive. I don’t know what offensive content the RP in Southsun has though… I might pay them a visit there as silent audience.

I think the whole megaserver system should be reworked. As nice as the changes are to fill up empty maps for events, I can imagine it being a nightmare for RPers (and those who hate RP alike). I already feel bad when I have to run past RPers in Ebonhawke for whatever reason. A fully geared elementalist running past shouting “Earth, Fire, …” must be kinda immersion breaking in a more or less peaceful city like that…

Creating your own shards or removing the megaserver system for some specific maps like home cities would be just some of the possible solutions. I hope ANet will come up with something…

So instead of roleplay we get “lolz ahahaha noob” speak. Wonderful.

Or do you enjoy a quiet game world? I think you need to check out single player games if that is your cup of tea, Skyrim in particular would suffice.

Hannelore.8153:

So instead of roleplay we get “lolz ahahaha noob” speak. Wonderful.

Or do you enjoy a quiet game world? I think you need to check out single player games if that is your cup of tea, Skyrim in particular would suffice.

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You’re not epic if you need more than grunts, snarls and the occasional earsplitting ‘WHOOOOOOOOOOO’ to communicate.

Remember, kiddies: Grammar causes cancer and is why your gramma had to go away! SHUN IT!

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There’s a lot of french ERP going on lately.

Dunno why you’re complaining so much. Personally when im bored, i sometimes go and sit down at some of the hotspots of RP, and just listen to these guys. Their spontaneous creativity amazes and amuses me.

Oh and, i read from guildwars2roleplayers that they pretty much have the following guidelines… oh and pay extra attention to points 2, 4 and 9:

1) You have the right to roleplay your character however you want, with any name or background you want, and about any topic or theme that you want, so long as what you are doing does not break the game’s terms of service.

2) You have the right to roleplay anywhere in the world that you want. No one has the authority to remove you from a public area ICly or OOCly or tell you that you can’t be there, no matter what they might claim.

3) You have the right to roleplay in whatever style you wish. You can adhere to the standards of language/communication as little or as much as you want. You can use whatever tense that you like or emote however you see best. You can use the surroundings around you or disregard them if you see fit.

4) You have the right to start or stop roleplaying whenever you wish. You do not have to acquiesce to requests for you to be IC or OOC, or listen to anyone that tells you when you can or cannot roleplay. No one has the authority to tell you when to roleplay.

5) You have the right to roleplay with anyone who agrees to roleplay with you, for as long as they agree to roleplay with you. Roleplay is between you and those that have agreed to roleplay with you, and no one else.

6) You have the right to set standards for the kinds of roleplay you want to participate in. You have the right to choose only roleplay partners and situations that you find enjoyable. You have the right to leave a roleplay situation at any time if you find that it does not live up to the standards that you find enjoyable.

7) You have the right to set your own boundaries for what you’re comfortable participating in. You have the right to say no to roleplay situations that make you uncomfortable and to remove yourself from that situation at any time.

8 ) You have the right to not roleplay with people that you don’t enjoy. You have the right to avoid them for any reason under the sun, IC or OOC; a “good” reason is not required. You are not obligated to justify it to anyone. You have the right to choose not to roleplay with someone again even if you’ve previously roleplayed with them in the past.

9) You have the right to block/ignore anyone whose behavior, either IC or OOC, upsets or annoys you. You are not obligated to read other people’s chat messages. You are not obligated to tell anyone you have blocked them, and you are not obligated to justify it to anyone.

10) You have the right to report people that harass you, use inappropriate or defamatory language in talking to you or around you, or that otherwise break ArenaNet’s terms of service.

I wish I stumbled upon more role-playing. Makes the world feel alive when I hear more than, “Events?” in map chat. . . .

To me, your reasons as to why you can’t block or avoid them seem like excuses.

I’ve run into this sometimes. Perhaps they’re just there at the same time you are regularly?

Asking them to take it to party chat is a good idea. ERP should always be in party chat at least IMO. If they’re not willing to do that…honestly, I can’t think of a good reason to not use party chat in a public space.

If the OP is feeling especially irritated, they might try RPing interrupting them. How would an innocent beachgoer feel accidentally walking into someone’s makeout session? It might be funny.

nGumball.1283:

To me, your reasons as to why you can’t block or avoid them seem like excuses.

They seem reasonable to me.

OP doesn’t want to disable a game feature (emotes) or take lots of time to parse offensive chat and block individual PCs. I’d probably have the same reaction if I ran into ERP repeatedly.

ERPers should keep it private. I honestly can’t imagine a reason to not keep this kind of thing to party chat.

I don’t think anyone would want to ERP in this game using emotes since the emotes are almost like, map wide, really.

ERP should be done in private instances. Even with party chat, it’s far too easy for someone to forget just one time, and put it into an emote or slip up and put it in map or local.

Not so much in GW2, but back in CoH I saw some… epic mistells. There’s nothing like seeing someone you know blurt out a very graphic line across zone chat in the busiest zone in the game, and then their status suddenly goes to “Offline”.

But complaining about where sand gets (when you’re on a beach where the game automatically strips you down to ‘naked’ to fake swimsuits) or talking about wanting to kiss? Sounds like it might be heavy flirting and other mature themes, but not ERP.

I’m mostly finding RP in Rata Sum lately. I don’t partake, but I like to follow it sometimes. I’ll have to check out Southsun beaches.

Your best solution is to.uncheck your emotes when RP pops up… Missing a friend wave is your excuse? You can see them, why do you have to read “____ waves?” And if the role play is graphic, report them. Certain things should not be said in public chat.

ERPers can do what they like, as long as they’re not breaking the rules.

I’ve never actually encountered any, though. Which has been a lingering disappointment :/

Please remember OP, these are gw2 players, the same as you, they have paid for the game, just like you, and they are just playing the game, as they have every bit as much right to do as you have.

I’m not seeing any RPers in this forum complaining that their RP is being disrupted by other players’ activities.

Just out of interest OP, if any RPer DID come on the forum to complain that YOU were spoiling their gameplay by insisting on mat farming or whatever through their RP, how would you feel about that? That’s basically what you’re doing here. I’m sorry you’re upset over it, but you don’t really have any justifiable complaint, especially since you can turn off emotes if you feel that strongly about it.

And thats one reason why Anet takes away all nice things we love.
Seriously the RP community of GW2 was and still is (or whatever is left of them after the Megaserver disaster) one of the most unique and creative parts of the game. Its also one of the few things left that distinguish us from other MMORPGs. People who try to merge into the world and turning it something which is alive.

Lishtenbird.2814:

Unseenstrike.2971:

I know I can block the offending players,

I’ve never met A SINGLE ONE during my year in the game…

Most likely they’re just from the same server as you. If they’re doing offensive stuff – report, they’ll get suspended/banned, as GW2 is vary strict with this kind of stuff; if they’re not removed – then you’ll have to get over it (use other waypoints?) since it’s a multiplayer game, one can’t please everyone, and apparently they’re not writing offensive enough stuff.

You’ve never seen roleplayers who like to say stuff that should really be in private? You must play at a less populous time or something. I agree with the OP, it does get tedious. And no, they wouldn’t do it in private if they could. They clearly enjoy being “exhibitionists” with what they say. Sometimes they are obviously trying to “one-up” each other to see how offensive they can get.

And yes, it interrupts play to try to block them. You can’t right-click the /me comments.

Maybe there should be a separate Roleplay channel (that would keep emotes in that channel) that people must use unless they’re just waving hi or doing one /dance or whatever.

Djinn.9245:

You’ve never seen roleplayers who like to say stuff that should really be in private? You must play at a less populous time or something.

I’m at Piken Square (the unofficial RP server AFAIK), and usually online around 20-21 UTC.

Djinn.9245:

You’ve never seen roleplayers who like to say stuff that should really be in private? You must play at a less populous time or something. I agree with the OP, it does get tedious. And no, they wouldn’t do it in private if they could. They clearly enjoy being “exhibitionists” with what they say. Sometimes they are obviously trying to “one-up” each other to see how offensive they can get.

And yes, it interrupts play to try to block them. You can’t right-click the /me comments.

Maybe there should be a separate Roleplay channel (that would keep emotes in that channel) that people must use unless they’re just waving hi or doing one /dance or whatever.

Sorry Djinn, I was laboring under the delusion that they had as much right to play how they wanted as you, I didn’t realise you bought the Double-Secret Special Little Snowflake Edition of GW2 and therefore had more rights than everybody else, my bad.

Lishtenbird.2814:

Djinn.9245:

You’ve never seen roleplayers who like to say stuff that should really be in private? You must play at a less populous time or something.

I’m at Piken Square (the unofficial RP server AFAIK), and usually online around 20-21 UTC.

Ah, well perhaps the unofficial RP server has more serious RPers who don’t do what we’re referring to or something. But it has been happening in my experience since I started playing (beta).

This is an RPG (Role Playing Game) after all. RPers do have every right to play the game accordingly. I don’t even see why this is an issue. One can ignore them easily by turning off emotes if it bothers them. Just as one can ignore/turn off various channels if conversation becomes bothersome. It’s really no different. Just play and let play and Tyria will be better off for it.

Greyhound.2058:

Djinn.9245:

You’ve never seen roleplayers who like to say stuff that should really be in private? You must play at a less populous time or something. I agree with the OP, it does get tedious. And no, they wouldn’t do it in private if they could. They clearly enjoy being “exhibitionists” with what they say. Sometimes they are obviously trying to “one-up” each other to see how offensive they can get.

And yes, it interrupts play to try to block them. You can’t right-click the /me comments.

Maybe there should be a separate Roleplay channel (that would keep emotes in that channel) that people must use unless they’re just waving hi or doing one /dance or whatever.

Sorry Djinn, I was laboring under the delusion that they had as much right to play how they wanted as you, I didn’t realise you bought the Double-Secret Special Little Snowflake Edition of GW2 and therefore had more rights than everybody else, my bad.

The way I want to play has to do with when and where I want to complete hearts, do events, discover map areas, etc. The way I want to play doesn’t include talking publically about certain topics that I have never heard anywhere in public IRL.

Encountered some the other day in Ebonhawke. Walked right into a bedroom and there they were, but just talking in local chat. I just pretended like I walked into the wrong room and said something like “whoops, looks like I interrupted something” backed out of the room and left. I got a chuckle out of it, then went on with my day.

I have seen the /me ones before, and they were similar to what OP described, but I just clicked off of emotes to hide them. Kind of like what I do with normal map chat all the time.

I had never even heard of RP’ing in GW1 or GW2. Every once in a while I would come across a player who wanted to talk dirty & I’d ignore them, but not RP or ERP. One fateful day at the beginning of GW2: a friend said, “Guest on my Server: Tarnished Coast. I want to show you something!” I remember fondly being warned: Beward of Divinity Reach Houses & NEVER go into the secret waterfall in the Grove. Can’t Unsee! Can’t Unsee!

Now we have the Megaservers and…Oh Megaservers have introduced us to so much.
headdesk

~Milly

I was gonna give the OP a 10/10 for trolling here, cause I noticed they hadn’t posted any follow-up…but then I got to Djinn’s posts and have the sneaking suspicion there’s a lot less agreeing and a bit more “emphasizing my point”.

6/10 sir.

MAN! How do i miss this stuff???? I keep an endless quaggan tonic on me at all times, JUST for these sort of things. I need to go to Southsun….and here i thought it was just the Hunter’s Lodge in Queensdale! LOL

Honestly, i love the RPers. They add some much-needed comedy to this game. I don’t interfere with’m, but if you ever see a quaggan nearby to some RPers, thats me “stalking” them. MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

I don’t understand why they use public channels either. I don’t care what they’re doing or why and I hope they’re enjoying the game. However, do we all have to listen to some laborious conversation in map chat?

ERP is not appropriate for public channels, period. But what counts as “ERP” may be subjective. To me, if you could see it in a PG-13 movie (kissing, brushing hair off another’s forehead, double entendres, etc), it’s not ERP. I also don’t think it should be the entirety of a scene, there needs to be some plot advancement or character refinement, even if it’s just a social chat to reinforce IC ties, but that’s my personal preference for effective use of my RP time.

Graphic descriptions of intimate acts one simply would not do in public, however, need to be kept in party or whisper chat, or in instanced areas like the home instance. (For me, as I don’t do ERP since fade-to-black works just as well for the story, I like the instanced areas to avoid RP collision. Screenshotting the chatlog to preserve a story is much easier if the only say and emotes are part of your scene).

Many years ago, in another game, I had a friend running an IC tavern in a public area. He went in one evening and discovered two people emoting in the basement, unaware they were “audible” upstairs. He proceeded to screenshot it and relay it to the rest of us in the guild as it happened. The best bit was where the guy lovingly fondled the gal’s “love mountains.” That phrase is still a running gag for us to this day.

So don’t ERP where unconsenting people can see it. You might become a laughingstock. Or banned, if it’s x-rated and you get reported.

I don’t recall ever seeing roleplayers getting offensive or inappropriate in chat, including emotes. I’m sure it happens, because of course it does, but there’s my anecdotal two cents about how pervasive the problem is.

I generally enjoy coming across roleplayers, because it’s nice to see that people can enjoy the game in vastly different ways. Two of my favorite dungeon PUG members turned out to be roleplayers, and it was solid gold to have them in character the whole time.

If people are getting graphic, report them. If they’re just playing the game their way, move along. Tyria’s big enough.

As far as things Anet can do to improve the situation, I think a lot of people would enjoy a dedicated RP server, regardless of megaserver implications. Reducing the range on /me emotes would be a good thing, too.

At least Guild Wars 2 don’t have a Goldshire.

Some people just love to RP I guess. I, myself, being a veteran RPer…I’m sorry to say, 99.% of the role playing I see in Divinty’s Reach… kinda sucks. (Sorry!)

Farzo.8410:

At least Guild Wars 2 don’t have a Goldshire.

No kidding! lol

Redenaz.8631:

Reducing the range on /me emotes would be a good thing, too.

I think that is probably the one and only option that would be welcomed by all parties and inconvenience no-one

OP reminds me of one of those people that would say to a couple getting a bit hot and heavy in public to “get a room.” Ain’t against the law to grope some boob and get a bit frisky in public just like it isn’t against the terms of use to get a bit, in the words of Rachel Green, “erotically charged” with fellow RP’rs. I agree it might be a bit weird to see but seriously if it bothers you, turn off emotes or don’t read it. Just because the text is there doesn’t mean you have to read through it all just to think “that’s inappropriate.”

I actually enjoy reading RP conversations quite often as they’re usually very creative. Not saying everyone should enjoy what they have to say like myself, just that I find it actually interesting to read a lot of the time. I’ve seen some people say some pretty weird stuff from time to time but hey, if they’re in to that it’s not my business. As long as they don’t sound like a pedophile or something, all the power to them.

I always like a good read (map chats can get pretty good sometimes and nice debates can be had when cool people are in your zone that understand the difference between debating and insulting) ill have to check out some of these RP zones when I’m in a major city I do agree it makes the world feel more alive but have to say haven’t ran into a lot of RPers but the few that I have met were really nice so kudos to that RP community lol. But to OP I can understand why he would be upset in a situation like this both sides have valid reasons but in an MMORP its kinda hard to “claim” zones both RP and non-RP.

I have never, ever seen anything like that before. Usually roleplayers are very PG in my experience; like the most offensive thing I’ve ever seen involved people linking bananas and potatoes in chat. Honestly, if I saw something like that, I’d probably laugh and run along.

Greyhound.2058:

Redenaz.8631:

Reducing the range on /me emotes would be a good thing, too.

I think that is probably the one and only option that would be welcomed by all parties and inconvenience no-one

Seconded. I mean, do emotes really have to travel as far as they do? Does someone across the zone need to see me nodding in agreement to someone else?

As for the topic at hand… RPers have every right to RP where they want.
If they are crossing the line with their public RP, then yeah, you have every right to ignore/block/report them.
Conversely, they have every right to do the same to anyone who is, say… spamming emotes ad nauseum just to grief them.

Unfortunately, that’s the way of the interwebz. Sorry, but it’s ‘Multiplayer’ for a reason. And if you can’t (or more likely, won’t) deal with that fact, then playing MMO’s is /probably/ not a good idea…

I’m a non-RP’er that is 100% in support of RP’ers.

Frankly I wish there were more talking and emoting away everywhere, enough so that the devs could dump all that repetitive NPC dialogue that is meant to provide the same kind of color to the world.

Seriously, will that golem in Rata Sum ever stop hassling that poor merchant? Either arrest him or go away, for the love of all that is good and holy.

Wandering past deeply IC RP’ers and genuinely good player musicians has made my day more than once. If there was an RP channel I’d keep it on all the time.

ERP shouldn’t even be allowed in this game as it was rated for Teens and not Mature or Adult. You don’t know who is on the other end, and if it’s a child, well there may be issues.

it wouldnt me much of a rp if youd do it in a single isolated room with 5 players now would it?

Here are my suggestions :
1) if less than 6 RP players band up together in party and use party chat
2) if more than 5 players tag up and create a squad, squad chat can have a lot more people inside
3) use the /me emotes inside the said chat with * xyz * or " xyz "

This way roleplayers can enjoy their roleplaying and they wont bother people such as OP.

At most there will be a commander with a few people dancing around and …doing NORMAL emotes such as waving and laughing .

This is why devs will never get it right. They do not understand roleplayers at all, so they never develop RP tools and settings for them. It’s not just GW2, but the genre as a whole.

I don’t even roleplay, but i at least recognize what they need.

People are free to do whatever they want, just as you are.
I find it irksome that you feel the need to write walls of texts explaining how others aren’t allowed to do what they want because it interferes with what you’re trying to do.

Perhaps people ERPing might be a bit out of line, but I’ve personally never seen any of that.
A lot of RPers do try to play in less populated zones so they don’t annoy/get in other peoples way.
The fact they were in a usually unpopulated zone (to try to be out of everyones way) and you’re complaining about them being there is kind of rude.