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Posted by: gameshoes.1530

gameshoes.1530

Yes, this is a complaining thread.
I don’t seem to understand how anyone could have thought that including PvP maps into the World Completion was a good idea. It’s absolutely ridiculous trying to explore WvW because every single player is trying to kill you! Exploration is also dependent on how your server fairs against others and I don’t plan on switching servers every single day to find one that has complete ownership of the entire Eternal Battlegrounds or has the spots I need.
I’m pretty much stuck at 99% completion until my server swaps spots or completely dominates the battlefield and I find it rather silly.

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Posted by: Hazal Birunae.6082

Hazal Birunae.6082

If you’re going down this route, why do WvW players have to do so much PvE? It can go both ways, buddy.

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Posted by: ophidic.1279

ophidic.1279

Good thing the servers change weekly and you have literally years to complete the map.

Elyl Jrend

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Posted by: Khairos.3890

Khairos.3890

I’m pretty much stuck at 99% completion until my server swaps spots or completely dominates the battlefield and I find it rather silly.

This thread again?

Sounds like you should get into a major WvW guild and start fighting for the GLORY of your server!

Who knows, you just might enjoy it! Go for it, there’s no reason to lock yourself out of a section of the full game.

Helia – Stormbluff Isle – [MORD]

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Posted by: Kinglette.4906

Kinglette.4906

Do the npc players ignore you in the other maps?
No didnt think so, what you are saying is im a bad i can kill npcs but not players please nerf the game.
either that or spend some time in wvw and see it can be fun, the added danger that you could actually die rather than auto attack and afk help the time pass

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Posted by: Krimpton.4879

Krimpton.4879

Do the npc players ignore you in the other maps?
No didnt think so, what you are saying is im a bad i can kill npcs but not players please nerf the game.
either that or spend some time in wvw and see it can be fun, the added danger that you could actually die rather than auto attack and afk help the time pass

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players..
And the only reason most people are in WvW is because its one of the easiest and most efficient ways to farm Karma.
Oh and its full of underwater farming botts too..
And people camped in the jumping puzzle 24 hours a day to get there ‘’easy kills’’
The only Added danger in it is if one zerg is going clockwise round the map and the other is going anti clockwise and they accidently bump into each other.
Even then with the culling issue you dont see 90% of the people on either side so where is the excitement in that.??
Killed by invisibility.. ;p
{Edit to agree with op} and yes i agree with the op WvW should Never had been made a part of world completion.. thats a fact.. end of story..

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Posted by: cargan.5689

cargan.5689

Look up the WvW tables find a server that is anhilating the other two, transfer.
Take off all your armor to avoid repair bills run round naked for a night picking up the locations job done.

Or give WvWvW a try you might find you like it

Ulfar SOR

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Posted by: LOCO.1785

LOCO.1785

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players..
And the only reason most people are in WvW is because its one of the easiest and most efficient ways to farm Karma.
Oh and its full of underwater farming botts too..
And people camped in the jumping puzzle 24 hours a day to get there ‘’easy kills’’
The only Added danger in it is if one zerg is going clockwise round the map and the other is going anti clockwise and they accidently bump into each other.
Even then with the culling issue you dont see 90% of the people on either side so where is the excitement in that.??
Killed by invisibility.. ;p
{Edit to agree with op} and yes i agree with the op WvW should Never had been made a part of world completion.. thats a fact.. end of story..

Most of us not interested in killing other players?

Only reason people WvW is for easy karma?

Full of underwater bots?

People camping the JP 24/7?

Culling effects 90% of the enemy?

This post is so wrong I don’t know where to begin…

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Posted by: Krimpton.4879

Krimpton.4879

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players..
And the only reason most people are in WvW is because its one of the easiest and most efficient ways to farm Karma.
Oh and its full of underwater farming botts too..
And people camped in the jumping puzzle 24 hours a day to get there ‘’easy kills’’
The only Added danger in it is if one zerg is going clockwise round the map and the other is going anti clockwise and they accidently bump into each other.
Even then with the culling issue you dont see 90% of the people on either side so where is the excitement in that.??
Killed by invisibility.. ;p
{Edit to agree with op} and yes i agree with the op WvW should Never had been made a part of world completion.. thats a fact.. end of story..

Most of us not interested in killing other players?

Only reason people WvW is for easy karma?

Full of underwater bots?

People camping the JP 24/7?

Culling effects 90% of the enemy?

This post is so wrong I don’t know where to begin…

All of the above has been seen by me..
And ALL of the above has been reported in these very forums multiple times by many.. many other players..
So.. be constructive or go try to increase your post count some other way.. ty

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Posted by: ExTribble.7108

ExTribble.7108

Hop servers like I did. I was in JQ forever and was just missing the few POIs SoS was holding. I hopped over to another server ranked first in it’s fight, nabbed the POIs and just transferred back. It was a terrible experience to change servers for a whole week and meet a few new people. (/sarcasm)

Considering this is Arenanet’s trademark PvP mode for the game, I think it makes sense that they nudge reluctant PvE players to join in. After all, most people tend to find it enjoyable after they play as intended; roaming with groups, not solo.

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and style to turn them into craters and dust.” -Tonn
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Posted by: Theplayboy.6417

Theplayboy.6417

Do the npc players ignore you in the other maps?
No didnt think so, what you are saying is im a bad i can kill npcs but not players please nerf the game.
either that or spend some time in wvw and see it can be fun, the added danger that you could actually die rather than auto attack and afk help the time pass

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players..
And the only reason most people are in WvW is because its one of the easiest and most efficient ways to farm Karma.
Oh and its full of underwater farming botts too..
And people camped in the jumping puzzle 24 hours a day to get there ‘’easy kills’’
The only Added danger in it is if one zerg is going clockwise round the map and the other is going anti clockwise and they accidently bump into each other.
Even then with the culling issue you dont see 90% of the people on either side so where is the excitement in that.??
Killed by invisibility.. ;p
{Edit to agree with op} and yes i agree with the op WvW should Never had been made a part of world completion.. thats a fact.. end of story..

The main reason I play is to kill other players.

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Posted by: ophidic.1279

ophidic.1279

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players.

Are you freakin kidding me? You do realize this is an ONLINE game right?

Elyl Jrend

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Posted by: Krimpton.4879

Krimpton.4879

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players.

Are you freakin kidding me? You do realize this is an ONLINE game right?

what has the fact that it’s an online game got to do with it ??
Realy support your point here or just don’t bother to reply ty…
Look the simple fact is WvW is NOT part of the world so therefore should not be part of the 100% map completion..
And the PROOF that it is not part of the world is if you press ’’M’’ on your keyboard you DO NOT see the WvW maps show up in the WORLD MAP.

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Posted by: Nozdrum.2894

Nozdrum.2894

Do the npc players ignore you in the other maps?
No didnt think so, what you are saying is im a bad i can kill npcs but not players please nerf the game.
either that or spend some time in wvw and see it can be fun, the added danger that you could actually die rather than auto attack and afk help the time pass

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players..
And the only reason most people are in WvW is because its one of the easiest and most efficient ways to farm Karma.
Oh and its full of underwater farming botts too..
And people camped in the jumping puzzle 24 hours a day to get there ‘’easy kills’’
The only Added danger in it is if one zerg is going clockwise round the map and the other is going anti clockwise and they accidently bump into each other.
Even then with the culling issue you dont see 90% of the people on either side so where is the excitement in that.??
Killed by invisibility.. ;p
{Edit to agree with op} and yes i agree with the op WvW should Never had been made a part of world completion.. thats a fact.. end of story..

I for my self would like to add: Lag.
Today I finished my monthly and this is the only time I do WvW because it is totally not fun. Also I don’t get any fun of killing other players. This is especially true for the jp, we just slow each other down in getting the treasure – this is helping no one.
But I have to agree stoped trying WvW a long time ago, no fun for me to stomp other people in the ground.

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Posted by: Dante.1508

Dante.1508

I actually am more annoyed with the 7 Fractals, i got the 50 kills ok in the lag and my sound turned into a siren call, but those 7 fractals are way more annoying for me, why cant it be 7 dungeons, not just Fotm?

Fotm is insanely annoying, 1. i’m lvl 4 so i’ll never get a team and 2. i just plain hate that dungeon with a passion…

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Posted by: Rustypipes.6238

Rustypipes.6238

Because it’s part of the game world, hence, world completion.

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Posted by: eisberg.2379

eisberg.2379

Yup, Arenanet really needs to separate the PvE and the PvP achievements in this game. There is a PvP Monthly, and a PvE/PvP monthy, a PvE Daily and PvP Daily, but there is no PvE Monthly. Also agreed, WvWvW should not count towards map completion, it isn’t even on the map, and map exploration is a PvE thing, not a PvP thing.

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Posted by: Ortumbra.7490

Ortumbra.7490

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players.

Are you freakin kidding me? You do realize this is an ONLINE game right?

what has the fact that it’s an online game got to do with it ??
Realy support your point here or just don’t bother to reply ty…
Look the simple fact is WvW is NOT part of the world so therefore should not be part of the 100% map completion..
And the PROOF that it is not part of the world is if you press ’’M’’ on your keyboard you DO NOT see the WvW maps show up in the WORLD MAP.

I enjoy both the PvE and the PvP portions of GW2, but correct me (nicely hopefully) if I’m wrong here. I know there are POIs in dungeons too, which, if you press “M” on your keyboard you can see the entrances (if your the right level or above, unless you have explored the area already), but you cannot see their maps on the world map. And unless the POIs in the dungeons don’t count towards world completion your statement doesn’t carry that much weight.

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Posted by: Hyper Cutter.9376

Hyper Cutter.9376

I don’t know why the wubwub counts for map exploration when Heart of the Mists doesn’t (or Southsun, which is at least ON the actual map).

Really, there’s enough things to do in WvW to justify giving it a monthly of its own, I think.

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Posted by: Krimpton.4879

Krimpton.4879

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players.

Are you freakin kidding me? You do realize this is an ONLINE game right?

what has the fact that it’s an online game got to do with it ??
Realy support your point here or just don’t bother to reply ty…
Look the simple fact is WvW is NOT part of the world so therefore should not be part of the 100% map completion..
And the PROOF that it is not part of the world is if you press ’’M’’ on your keyboard you DO NOT see the WvW maps show up in the WORLD MAP.

I enjoy both the PvE and the PvP portions of GW2, but correct me (nicely hopefully) if I’m wrong here. I know there are POIs in dungeons too, which, if you press “M” on your keyboard you can see the entrances (if your the right level or above, unless you have explored the area already), but you cannot see their maps on the world map. And unless the POIs in the dungeons don’t count towards world completion your statement doesn’t carry that much weight.

I wouldn’t dream of correcting you..
However.. ;p
I have 2 lvl 80 now one with full 100% map completion and the other on 85% so far, unless im suffering from a severe case of brain fail i can’t recall any dungeons having poi ‘’in them’’ that count towards world completion.
I may be wrong of course, im getting old now so you may correct me {nicely pls} if i am wrong.. : }

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Posted by: ophidic.1279

ophidic.1279

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players.

Are you freakin kidding me? You do realize this is an ONLINE game right?

what has the fact that it’s an online game got to do with it ??
Realy support your point here or just don’t bother to reply ty…
Look the simple fact is WvW is NOT part of the world so therefore should not be part of the 100% map completion..
And the PROOF that it is not part of the world is if you press ’’M’’ on your keyboard you DO NOT see the WvW maps show up in the WORLD MAP.

What’s the point of playing with other players if you’re not ever going to hit one of them.

Don’t tell me when to reply and when not to. I’ll decide that, thanks…

Borderlands? Part of the world. Same with all the PVP zones. It was like that in the first game too, and it was WAY harder to explore the enemies side when sides never changed.

As you were, babies.

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Posted by: ophidic.1279

ophidic.1279

Plus all this complaining of “it’s not on the map”, well it is… if you piece the map together. The FULL map, not just the area that PVE takes place in. The world is bigger than the map you see when you hit m.

I guess Cantha is gone because it’s not on the map. Elona? Wiped off the face of the map!

Elyl Jrend

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Posted by: gameshoes.1530

gameshoes.1530

Do the npc players ignore you in the other maps?
No didnt think so, what you are saying is im a bad i can kill npcs but not players please nerf the game.
either that or spend some time in wvw and see it can be fun, the added danger that you could actually die rather than auto attack and afk help the time pass

Your great assumptions of calling people bad is just vile and disgusting.

I have put plenty of hours into WvWvW.
The issue is is that my server is not going to mystically capture keeps and castles the instant I show up. I’m sorry that my schedule doesn’t allow me to check the status of the maps every hour and every day. I guess I should also apologize for not being interested in PvP when I’m trying to complete a rather PvE-esque task!

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Posted by: ophidic.1279

ophidic.1279

Do the npc players ignore you in the other maps?
No didnt think so, what you are saying is im a bad i can kill npcs but not players please nerf the game.
either that or spend some time in wvw and see it can be fun, the added danger that you could actually die rather than auto attack and afk help the time pass

Your great assumptions of calling people bad is just vile and disgusting.

I have put plenty of hours into WvWvW.
The issue is is that my server is not going to mystically capture keeps and castles the instant I show up. I’m sorry that my schedule doesn’t allow me to check the status of the maps every hour and every day. I guess I should also apologize for not being interested in PvP when I’m trying to complete a rather PvE-esque task!

Dude, just be patient.

I never thought I was gonna clear borderlands, and i’m nearly done and I barely tried.

Elyl Jrend

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Posted by: Theplayboy.6417

Theplayboy.6417

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players.

Are you freakin kidding me? You do realize this is an ONLINE game right?

what has the fact that it’s an online game got to do with it ??
Realy support your point here or just don’t bother to reply ty…
Look the simple fact is WvW is NOT part of the world so therefore should not be part of the 100% map completion..
And the PROOF that it is not part of the world is if you press ’’M’’ on your keyboard you DO NOT see the WvW maps show up in the WORLD MAP.

I enjoy both the PvE and the PvP portions of GW2, but correct me (nicely hopefully) if I’m wrong here. I know there are POIs in dungeons too, which, if you press “M” on your keyboard you can see the entrances (if your the right level or above, unless you have explored the area already), but you cannot see their maps on the world map. And unless the POIs in the dungeons don’t count towards world completion your statement doesn’t carry that much weight.

I wouldn’t dream of correcting you..
However.. ;p
I have 2 lvl 80 now one with full 100% map completion and the other on 85% so far, unless im suffering from a severe case of brain fail i can’t recall any dungeons having poi ‘’in them’’ that count towards world completion.
I may be wrong of course, im getting old now so you may correct me {nicely pls} if i am wrong.. : }

All dungeons have POI’ s in them. However, they do not count towards World Completion. I believe that they should include all dungeons / all paths though. I also like that WvWvW is included in World Completion; for the record .

(edited by Theplayboy.6417)

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Posted by: ophidic.1279

ophidic.1279

Also…. it’s super convenient that map completion goes on vistas, pois and waypoints…

No more wall hugging the perimeter of map, looking for that tiny chunk you missed to get that .1% for completion as in GW1.

Elyl Jrend

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Posted by: Krimpton.4879

Krimpton.4879

Plus all this complaining of “it’s not on the map”, well it is… if you piece the map together. The FULL map, not just the area that PVE takes place in. The world is bigger than the map you see when you hit m.

I guess Cantha is gone because it’s not on the map. Elona? Wiped off the face of the map!

Like i say…
When i press ’’M’’ it is NOT on the world map..
And yes neither is Cantha or Elona but NO they havnt dissapeared but neither are they part of the 100% map completion either.
so your point is invalid.. {sorry}
{Edit} oh and your other post i quote ‘’What’s the point of playing with other players if you’re not ever going to hit one of them.’’ games of chess must be a riot in your house then ;p

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Posted by: gameshoes.1530

gameshoes.1530

Also…. it’s super convenient that map completion goes on vistas, pois and waypoints…

No more wall hugging the perimeter of map, looking for that tiny chunk you missed to get that .1% for completion as in GW1.

Yeah, I remember those days… I only bothered to completely explore Tyria once because of that. Didn’t bother with Cantha or Elona.

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Posted by: Garambola.2461

Garambola.2461

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players.

Are you freakin kidding me? You do realize this is an ONLINE game right?

Should I be now very scared? Good thing no-one knows my address….

On topic, the WvWvW part of maps is a pain, but it can be done. I did have to switch servers to get some parts done though.

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Posted by: Xenth.2408

Xenth.2408

Why do you want world completion? For the achievement? For the reward?

The reward gets you one small part of a legendary weapon. But guess what, you also need 500 badges of honor from… WVW in order to complete a legendary.

Personally I think they should have included dungeons in world completion as well. But that’s not the point.

The real point is this: world completion, unless you’re going for legendary, is a small part of the game and not required. You get a title and a star by your name. Big deal.

If you don’t want to wvw, don’t.

I don’t want minis, so I’m not doing those achievements. I don’t want racial karma armor so I’m not doing those achievements.

Learn to live with what you’re willing to partake of in a game, or quit.

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Posted by: IndigoSundown.5419

IndigoSundown.5419

Achievements like the monthlies and world completion are in the game to give people something to do. Players burn through things to do at speed, then clamor for more to do. Thus, it makes sense to enable players to get achievements (with effort). Forcing players into aspects of the game they’d rather not be in is not conducive to fun.

Therefore, it makes sense to have an open world monthly, a Mists monthly and the PvP monthly. Likewise, a WvW explore and an open world explore. Those who want them all, can get them all. Those who only want some, get those. Either way, there is more to do for most everyone.

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Posted by: akamon.2769

akamon.2769

why not start a thread as a call to arms instead!! am sure you’ll find more on your server, that need these for map completion. you could spend time learning WvW a bit, and at least give it a chance. i’m not one for PvP, nor even one for MMO’s, but i love this game. both PvE and WvW aspects (i’ll admit, i haven’t ventured into sPvP yet).

sure, which server you are and ranking may make a difference, but anything can happen in this game. i think it was a nice touch to add to have people who want 100% explore most parts of the game can offer.

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Posted by: Kandrick.8054

Kandrick.8054

There are 2 distinct and seperate parts to the game – PvE and PvP. WvWvW falls into the PvE bracket so is included in world completion.

WvWvW has vistas, harvest nodes, regular PvE mobs and events, PvE gear, you take your skills/level with you etc. It is considered part of the PvE world. This is also why the PvE monthly includes WvW objectives.
PvP is a completely seperate part of the game and as such has it’s own monthly that does not include WvW in any way.

I’m not saying it should be that way I’m explaining how it is currently and why it is included in map completion.

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Posted by: scoobyconnah.9148

scoobyconnah.9148

i dont get this.. is there some kind of punishment/ban for not completing hole world/monthly that i’m not aware of?

if its not, why do you find mandatory to get that ones?
are you expecting that anet will design their game the way you imagined to play it?

i really dont get ppl qqing bout stuff they want, but not willing to get their hands dirty.. coz they dont file like it? lol?

maybe they should unlink achievements from actuall stuff.. so you can go to your achievements window and click on ones you want..
or, you can create your own ones and then solve them.. that would be so greatestest!

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Posted by: Wanze.8410

Wanze.8410

As someone already mentioned earlier, why would you like to get world completion, if you dont wvw?

The Star next to your name or the Title? Seems not much reward to me, for all the playing time you have to put into that.
Most likely, you would like to have the 2 Gifts of Exploration to craft your Legendaries.
But for that you also need 500 batches of honor which are only obtained in wvw. I am pretty sure it takes less time to get map completion in wvw than earning 500 batches.
I was also not amused when I realized that wvw maps are needed for it because i never done pvp in other mmo´s. But I had to go there anyways for my monthly and i spend more time there than I would have usually done. Now I like it very much and I am grateful that Anet forced me into it.

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Posted by: Bastion.2457

Bastion.2457

I tend to avoid PvP like the plague, so as far as im concerned, ill be at 100% once im done exploring the none PvP zones.

I don’t like WvWvW, but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be there.

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Posted by: X The Manimal.5293

X The Manimal.5293

WvW should Never had been made a part of world completion.. thats a fact.. end of story..

So.. be constructive or go try to increase your post count some other way.. ty

That’s a painful looking double standard you got there. After looking through many posts in this thread, it seems you’ve made up your mind. So why ask people to be constructive (which implies giving their opinions as well) when your opinion is actually “fact” (as stated by you)?

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Posted by: Wasabi Kitty.8247

Wasabi Kitty.8247

Because it’s part of the world.

100% completion means just that, 100%.

It means EVERYTHING. It doesn’t mean the parts you find convenient. It doesn’t mean the PvE parts. It means 100% of the map down to the last point of interest.

Anet make Rev great again.

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Posted by: Tachenon.5270

Tachenon.5270

What I would like to know is, where in the ‘world’ are these WvWvW areas? Are they in Ascalon? Kryta? Maguuma? Orr? Where?

The table is a fable.

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Posted by: Wasabi Kitty.8247

Wasabi Kitty.8247

The mists.

15chars

Anet make Rev great again.

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Posted by: Iruwen.3164

Iruwen.3164

Look the simple fact is WvW is NOT part of the world so therefore should not be part of the 100% map completion..
And the PROOF that it is not part of the world is if you press ’’M’’ on your keyboard you DO NOT see the WvW maps show up in the WORLD MAP.

Doesn’t matter much what you think about WvW and how you try to proof it, WvW is part of PvE, that’s what ANet thinks. End of story. And of course it’s a part of the world, otherwise we wouldn’t be fighting there.

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Tachenon.5270

Okay…

…but according to the wiki, The Mists isn’t exactly part of the worlds our characters inhabit – it’s an area that exists between the worlds our characters inhabit and resonates from the worlds around it… them… whatever. Unless, I suppose, one’s world happens to be one of the worlds floating like an island in the ether within The Mists, in which case 100% completion should require exploration of every world that is either adjacent to or also within The Mists!

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Mungrul.9358

I did this on my main character back when server transfers were pretty much instant by transferring to whichever server held the PoI/Vista I wanted.
And this makes me realise the ArenaNet are missing a very lucrative financial trick here.
If they can finally get the code fixed that charges for server transfers, they can make them instant again and plenty of PvE players who hate wuvwuv will pay the money for the transfers.

As it stands, server transfers have been free for far too long now, and all of the competitive Wuvwuvers have moved to the successful servers, resulting in a massive imbalance between the top and bottom of the table. This in turn means it’ll take a massive amount of time for people on low ranked servers to get world completion, if ever.
Those servers at the bottom will never be at a stage where they own all of an opposing team’s borderlands or all of EB.

Telling people to transfer at the moment means they’ll be locked out of their “Home” server for a week by the way, something just not viable if you’re in an active guild.

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ophidic.1279

Plus all this complaining of “it’s not on the map”, well it is… if you piece the map together. The FULL map, not just the area that PVE takes place in. The world is bigger than the map you see when you hit m.

I guess Cantha is gone because it’s not on the map. Elona? Wiped off the face of the map!

Like i say…
When i press ’’M’’ it is NOT on the world map..
And yes neither is Cantha or Elona but NO they havnt dissapeared but neither are they part of the 100% map completion either.
so your point is invalid.. {sorry}
{Edit} oh and your other post i quote ‘’What’s the point of playing with other players if you’re not ever going to hit one of them.’’ games of chess must be a riot in your house then ;p

Whatever, sorry you can’t get map locations under fire.

LOL Except theres no PVE mode in Chess! That’s a 100% PVP game. You “hit” when you take someone’s piece.

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Xenth.2408

As someone already mentioned earlier, why would you like to get world completion, if you dont wvw?

The Star next to your name or the Title? Seems not much reward to me, for all the playing time you have to put into that.
Most likely, you would like to have the 2 Gifts of Exploration to craft your Legendaries.
But for that you also need 500 batches of honor which are only obtained in wvw. I am pretty sure it takes less time to get map completion in wvw than earning 500 batches.
I was also not amused when I realized that wvw maps are needed for it because i never done pvp in other mmo´s. But I had to go there anyways for my monthly and i spend more time there than I would have usually done. Now I like it very much and I am grateful that Anet forced me into it.

You are correct. It takes vastly more time to get 500 badges. I have 3200 player kills in wvw, and I just got my 4th stack of badges (1000 total). I’m guessing about 200 of those badges I got from jumping puzzles in wvw. So basically I got about 800 in the time it took to get 3200 kills.

Someone else mentioned world completion means everything which it doesn’t. You don’t need dungeons for example.

Another argument one might make is why do you need to complete your personal story to get world completion? Assuming you don’t cheat via a teleport bug, one of the POIs requires you to get to the level 77 quest in personal story. While that’s not “completion” of your personal story, it’s pretty close.

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Mungrul.9358

Assuming you don’t cheat via a teleport bug, one of the POIs requires you to get to the level 77 quest in personal story. While that’s not “completion” of your personal story, it’s pretty close.

That’s actually been fixed, and you can now enter that micro instance as soon as you get to Straits of Devastation.

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Tachenon.5270

I believe in keeping PVE and PVP separated. I don’t like random bears or whatever in attacking me in WvWvW, and I don’t like other players attacking me while I’m digging up carrots. So here, for your forumly amusement, is how I might have done the World Completion stuff:

Explore all the currently available PVE areas: 100% World Exploration of the initial release of GW2.

Reconnoiter all the currently available PVP/WvWvW areas that are not specifically located on your World: 100% Reconnaissance of the initial release of GW2.

That is, two separate achievements that will both apply to a greater achievement on down the line. Get both, or neither, as you see fit. Then later (wishfully thinking)…

Cantha – 100% World Exploration for PVE exploration of this expansion/release/update, with any PVP related additions being a separate achievement.

Elona – 100% World Exploration for PVE exploration of this expansion/release/update, with any PVP related additions being a separate achievement.

Hypothetical Underwater Moon Base – 100% achievement for PVE exploration of this expansion/release/update, with any PVP related additions being a separate achievement.

For any PVP that actually takes place on one’s World (as opposed to in The Mists), like, for instance, if we ever get any Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry style PVP zones, create some all-new, all-different uncanny achievement that can be tied into the overall exploration achievement, or not.

100% of all PVE World Explorations = Grandmaster Explorer.
100% of all PVP World Reconnaissances = Grandmaster of Reconnaissance.

100% both = Supreme Grandmaster of Leaving No Kittening Stone Unturned.

Reward for Completing all Exploration/Reconnaissance achievements: in addition to the nifty title, 5 copper, a stack of 1-2 random common crafting materials, and a full-size invisible dragon maxi-pet that doesn’t even take up a slot in your inventory or mini-pet storage!

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Posted by: Iruwen.3164

Iruwen.3164

I believe in keeping PVE and PVP separated. I don’t like random bears or whatever in attacking me in WvWvW, and I don’t like other players attacking me while I’m digging up carrots.

Except WvW isn’t PvP. PvP is PvP.

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Tachenon.5270

Except WvW isn’t PvP. PvP is PvP.

Oh, you mean like how bacon isn’t pork. I see. What, then, is WvW?

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Posted by: Iruwen.3164

Iruwen.3164

WvW is WvW. Which means PvPvE, basically. That’s how it was designed.

Iruwen Evillan, Human Mesmer on Drakkar Lake