Guild Wars 2

I really like everything about the game, but in the end I feel that this game needs to implement a dueling system in order to help fill the gap for endgame content.
Like many, I am a competitive gamer, and I have lost my spark for GW2. I’ve tried dueling in WvW for a while now, and although it works sometimes, 8 out of 10 times I will just get killed by a bunch of people ganging up on me, which is terribly annoying. There are roamers out there looking for 1v1s, but they are beginning to be very scarce. I’ve talked to a lot of these players and they have all shared the same feeling of frustration over the game. Also, in order to duel a friend, you have to switching servers weekly, which can be detrimental for various reasons (gems, wvw, guild).

And I know not everyone likes dueling and like WvW the way it is, but adding a separate system for duels wouldn’t hurt anyone—it would only make the game even more fun. Also, sPvP is not the answer. It’s fine for a balanced team competition, but it isn’t fun to be able to create a character right on the spot and go duel. The story progression, item selection, aesthetic customization, and the grind from all this is a must for an RPG.

There should be specific areas or instances in each major city for that. I can understand how it’s not good to implement dueling outside of cities, but inside… of course.
Or at least a small PvP Map with just an arena and maxed out for 2 players so nobody else can join.

Yeah, I suppose something for 1v1ers would be nice. I don’t do much sPvP but it’s hardly encouraging that, when I do step into a map, I’m invariably screamed at and cussed at for daring to enter a map where 2 people are 1v1ing. The map generator often throws me into maps like this even when I’ve chosen one that features 10 or 15 people.

I think it was either the first or second guildwars2guru state of the game where the developer, talking with some players from spvp teams, said that dueling was on their priority list. While he said that it wouldn’t be implemented in the upcoming major spvp patch, he seemed to imply that it was one of the priorities to come soon after that. Whether dueling will be for spvp only or not, I don’t know.

Problem is: just about everything seems to be on their priority list and they imply way too much in every interview.

rootnode.9546:

There should be specific areas or instances in each major city for that. I can understand how it’s not good to implement dueling outside of cities, but inside… of course.
Or at least a small PvP Map with just an arena and maxed out for 2 players so nobody else can join.

I was thinking maybe you could just request a duel to someone and if he accepts, then you can begin fighting for a limited amount of time. I suppose making a specific map in PvE where this is enabled is also a good idea. This would prevent any sort of distraction from people just going around their business in the major cities or open world.

TimeBomb.3427:

I think it was either the first or second guildwars2guru state of the game where the developer, talking with some players from spvp teams, said that dueling was on their priority list. While he said that it wouldn’t be implemented in the upcoming major spvp patch, he seemed to imply that it was one of the priorities to come soon after that. Whether dueling will be for spvp only or not, I don’t know.

I really hope its for PvE. Is there anyone that could confirm this? Because if its true, that’s enough of a reason for me to start playing again and work on more characters and legendary gear!

Although the devs have said dueling is on the list, it is a low priority. I would pay money to get dueling implemented! And not because I want to duel for rank or even fun, although I have done duels for fun in other MMOs.

I want to duel to learn more about my skills and utilities, how they are countered, and how I can counter other professions. I can’t learn this against a practice dummy. And I can’t learn it well in sPvP, because I don’t get to engage in much 1v1, and I only use my Necro in sPvP.

The devs keep saying “learn to play.” I would love to. Give me dueling and I’ll be happy to study how to play better.

I will say I learned a ton with my 80 Guardian last week soloing the ghosts in AC. Basically, I was dueling against different ghost classes. lol. They weren’t stong enough to kill me quickly, and I wasn’t strong to kill them quickly, so the fights lasted long enough for me to practice different strategies against them.

I was excited at first about the practice NPCs they put up in The Mist, but I didn’t find them overly useful after trying them.

I left a game that had this, it was hugely irritating to be endlessy spammed with duel requests. It was one of the many things that drove me from the game.

It was not that everyone wanted to duel, but those who did…never stopped challenging people. A complete PITA.

So personally I hope it does not become a similar system where I must put up with endless interuptions from people wanting to duel.

Would at least need a preference to auto decline duels.

Keep asking and it may be added. Also, try to keep it all in ONE thread. A big thread looks a lot better than a bunch of smaller ones that tend to disappear.

Brtiva.9721:

I left a game that had this, it was hugely irritating to be endlessy spammed with duel requests. It was one of the many things that drove me from the game.

It was not that everyone wanted to duel, but those who did…never stopped challenging people. A complete PITA.

So personally I hope it does not become a similar system where I must put up with endless interuptions from people wanting to duel.

Would at least need a preference to auto decline duels.

Yeah. Surely hundreds of thousand of people must’ve left games like WoW and RIFT because of “getting spammed by duels”. You could also click the magic “Auto-Decline duels” button. But then again… some people would complain about them getting forced to click a button. (Seriously, i saw this in another duel thread.)

Is it true though…? Did you really leave a game because of getting spammed by duels? What game?

Because it seems like some people will spew out the most ridiculous arguments to fight the features they personally don’t like. (Like mounts)

Another argument is that duels would cause “visual pollution”. Really? So hundreds of people fighting NPCs isn’t visual pollution? Duels are done by NPCs already. Heck, you have to duel certain NPCs to finish hearts. Why? Because it’s training. You get better. The NPCs lorewise, and you when you duel other players.

There is absolutely nothing in this game that would make dueling an “unrealistic” feature to have. Both lore and gameplaywise.

You know, I don’t really get why you guys want duels, mounts, inspect and whatnot implemented into this game. If you do miss those features so dearly, maybe you should pick another game with those already added. This game is good as it is, IMHO.

Having said that, I am sure that the custom arena feature - once they are implemented – may be a good place for anyone whishing to hone their skill in 1v1 battles.

Kam.1780:

You know, I don’t really get why you guys want duels, mounts, inspect and whatnot implemented into this game. If you do miss those features so dearly, maybe you should pick another game with those already added. This game is good as it is, IMHO.

Having said that, I am sure that the custom arena feature - once they are implemented – may be a good place for anyone whishing to hone their skill in 1v1 battles.

Why would i pick another game?

I LOVE GW2.

Why would i change MMO instead of asking for features? This game lacks features and content. And if you’re not blindly loving GW2, you would see that. And that’s fine, because the game is fairly new. And the devs are developing and adding features in patches.

But don’t tell people to change games, or just sit down and play the game without asking for anything if there are certain (standard) features they’d like in the game.

I want this game to get better, i want to to survive for years! That’s why i’m asking and voting for features and content that would make it happen. I’m doing it because of my love for the game.

Why do you think there’s an “suggestion” part in the forum?

I hope so. That way my engineer can get started on owning every other profession.

@Winfernal
GW2 set out to go along a slightly different path than other traditional MMOs. And seeing the latest patches it seems that they are dedicated to keep that track. The forthcomig scavanger hunt and guild missions, and the unfolding Living Story are all following the traditions of GW1 and this is good, imo.

Why would you want to have it transformed into the face of a traditional one then? I don’t say that it does not lack features and content, it certainly does, but in my eyes they are not those “standard” ones many of you want to have here. “Standard” features would make this game more a “standard” MMO.

Kam.1780:

@Winfernal
GW2 set out to go along a slightly different path than other traditional MMOs. And seeing the latest patches it seems that they are dedicated to keep that track. The forthcomig scavanger hunt and guild missions, and the unfolding Living Story are all following the traditions of GW1 and this is good, imo.

Why would you want to have it transformed into the face of a traditional one then? I don’t say that it does not lack features and content, it certainly does, but in my eyes they are not those “standard” ones many of you want to have here. “Standard” features would make this game more a “standard” MMO.

What would be so gamebreaking about dueling? We’re not talking about changing the entire face of the game here.

As i said. It’s already happening lorewise.

It’s a small feature that would make many players happy.

Brtiva.9721:

I left a game that had this, it was hugely irritating to be endlessy spammed with duel requests. It was one of the many things that drove me from the game.

It was not that everyone wanted to duel, but those who did…never stopped challenging people. A complete PITA.

So personally I hope it does not become a similar system where I must put up with endless interuptions from people wanting to duel.

Would at least need a preference to auto decline duels.

Which game was this that didn’t allow you to automatically decline all duel requests?

Fernling.1729:

Brtiva.9721:

I left a game that had this, it was hugely irritating to be endlessy spammed with duel requests. It was one of the many things that drove me from the game.

It was not that everyone wanted to duel, but those who did…never stopped challenging people. A complete PITA.

So personally I hope it does not become a similar system where I must put up with endless interuptions from people wanting to duel.

Would at least need a preference to auto decline duels.

Which game was this that didn’t allow you to automatically decline all duel requests?

“The Game of Arguments”

Winfernal.9208:

What would be so gamebreaking about dueling? We’re not talking about changing the entire face of the game here.

As i said. It’s already happening lorewise.

It’s a small feature that would make many players happy.

Of course duelling would not be gamebreaking, I never said that. This is a feature I would not happily see to come into this game and in my previous comments I tried to explain why. Tastes differ, you know, and dueling is something that is not important for me at all. I would certainly accept it, should it ever be implemented, but not happily.

As for your statement that this feature would be rightly fit into the lore, I’d argue here. I hope you don’t think that killing NPCs in the open world as part of an event or a personal story is a duel. This game promotes co-operation and team effort. Defeating Zhaitan is after all an ultimate fruit of orders and races working together. Based on that, the only “duel” I would think right – lorewise, I must add – is a charr battling a human. It is not an accident that PvP and PvE are so tightly separated. It has its lore background as well. So the only place I would place duels – if ever shall it get implemented – is the Mists. And custom arenas I was talking about earlier will provide just that.

As for your comment on the suggestion part of the Forum, well, I don’t really get what it has to do with our discussion here.

Kam.1780:

Winfernal.9208:

What would be so gamebreaking about dueling? We’re not talking about changing the entire face of the game here.

As i said. It’s already happening lorewise.

It’s a small feature that would make many players happy.

Of course duelling would not be gamebreaking, I never said that. This is a feature I would not happily see to come into this game and in my previous comments I tried to explain why. Tastes differ, you know, and dueling is something that is not important for me at all. I would certainly accept it, should it ever be implemented, but not happily.

As for your statement that this feature would be rightly fit into the lore, I’d argue here. I hope you don’t think that killing NPCs in the open world as part of an event or a personal story is a duel. This game promotes co-operation and team effort. Defeating Zhaitan is after all an ultimate fruit of orders and races working together. Based on that, the only “duel” I would think right – lorewise, I must add – is a charr battling a human. It is not an accident that PvP and PvE are so tightly separated. It has its lore background as well. So the only place I would place duels – if ever shall it get implemented – is the Mists. And custom arenas I was talking about earlier will provide just that.

As for your comment on the suggestion part of the Forum, well, I don’t really get what it has to do with our discussion here.

About the lore part.

There are several hearts where you have to fight other allies, for training. Especially charr hearts. And why do they do this? To get better at fighting.

Why would i want duels? To get better at fighting.

It would be a good thing for time killing while waiting for AFKer before dungeons.
And who never wanted to quickly duel one of their guildmate or a frend just for fun ?

Winfernal.9208:

About the lore part.

There are several hearts where you have to fight other allies, for training. Especially charr hearts. And why do they do this? To get better at fighting.

Why would i want duels? To get better at fighting.

Okay, one more reply. And I apologize for the off-topic in advance.

I know what you mean and there are several similar ones in the Human areas as well. But sadly, these are not part of the lore.

Separatists fighting against the forces prefering the fragile peace between the charr and humans, the flame legion’s fight for dominance against the other high legions, centaurs battling with “two-legs” in Kryta, sylvari vs Nightmare Court, normal krewe vs. inquest – these conflicts have their lore, reason and background, they are part of it. Clashing with an ally for training is not.

Now back to topic: what you say about training and getting better at fighting is fine and there is nothing wrong with it, but it has its own place: in the Mists.

Add dueling please.

Fernling.1729:

Brtiva.9721:

I left a game that had this, it was hugely irritating to be endlessy spammed with duel requests. It was one of the many things that drove me from the game.

It was not that everyone wanted to duel, but those who did…never stopped challenging people. A complete PITA.

So personally I hope it does not become a similar system where I must put up with endless interuptions from people wanting to duel.

Would at least need a preference to auto decline duels.

Which game was this that didn’t allow you to automatically decline all duel requests?

Watch him never reply to this question

Although you can have a block all duel requests option, the problem with map chat harrassment is the bigger issue. Unfortunately there are some players in every MMO with open world PvP who abuse this and seem to enjoy intimidating others.

With the introduction of duels class balance is going to be an issue with people I think. I would like to see it though. Me and my brother have been waiting awhile to kick each others kittens.

I hope not. It serves no purpose other than kitten wagging, and Guild Wars 2 would do just fine without more of that. If you simply must fight another player one-on-one, pick any of the empty sPvP maps and slap each other around to your hearts’ content.

I find the duel request message very annoying too, just to chime in. I always feel obliged to duel (I’m no chicken!) so it gets grating fast.

Maybe a dueling zone even to seperate the chat from the rest.

I personally don’t think dueling is a gamebreaker. It is something that would add some depth into learning your class better for when you do sPvP and WvW. I think it needs to be done in some type of arena. But open world duels would be fine too, except for the annoying people who use the map chat and whispers to harass everyone that walks by. I think this feature will be implemented and don’t think balance issue will be that bad. It will be another area they can use the numbers from to help balance all classes. It may be bad at first but should help them in the future. I think a lot of the features we want will be added. Just remember the game is only 6 months old. Lots of MMO’s didn’t have the feature they do today. Just give it time and we should see what all ANET has for us in the future.

Winfernal.9208:

Kam.1780:

@Winfernal
GW2 set out to go along a slightly different path than other traditional MMOs. And seeing the latest patches it seems that they are dedicated to keep that track. The forthcomig scavanger hunt and guild missions, and the unfolding Living Story are all following the traditions of GW1 and this is good, imo.

Why would you want to have it transformed into the face of a traditional one then? I don’t say that it does not lack features and content, it certainly does, but in my eyes they are not those “standard” ones many of you want to have here. “Standard” features would make this game more a “standard” MMO.

What would be so gamebreaking about dueling? We’re not talking about changing the entire face of the game here.

As i said. It’s already happening lorewise.

It’s a small feature that would make many players happy.

Absolutely nothing would be gamebreaking about any of the features you’ve asked for. People are so WoW-phobic in here if you even dare mention something that could even remotely resemble a feature in WoW they freak out.

I’m surprised people aren’t up in arms that you kill mobs in this game since that’s what you do in WoW.

Kakeru.2873:

Fernling.1729:

Brtiva.9721:

I left a game that had this, it was hugely irritating to be endlessy spammed with duel requests. It was one of the many things that drove me from the game.

It was not that everyone wanted to duel, but those who did…never stopped challenging people. A complete PITA.

So personally I hope it does not become a similar system where I must put up with endless interuptions from people wanting to duel.

Would at least need a preference to auto decline duels.

Which game was this that didn’t allow you to automatically decline all duel requests?

Watch him never reply to this question

wth is wrong you people? sick. you and that other troll…here, you can watch me reply…no doubt this will be something “wrong”, too

for the truly curious ( such as the person who honestly asked which game had no auto decline feature), the game was swtor…it had many things I loved, but many which i hated…in the end it became no fun for me

and to troll #1…it was not the reason I left, it was one of several reasons I left, (which is clear in the post), and no, I did not say “hundreds of thousands” of players left games because of this…I said this is 1 of several reasons I left a game

geezus

ok, enough of this cesspool called the “forums”, back to the game for me

Oh yes..i want to run around a city while a bunch of kids bother me to duel