Guild Wars 2

Ironwill.5389:

echo.2053:

I was indeed trying to lag my connection by streaming 8 videos while playing the game. It was not normal for music to start 31 seconds after hitting play whcich at that point you’ll also note that the level stopped and then suddenly loaded at once. When On the big peppermint one player was running to the right and then snapped back to the center. Classic symptom of lag is when you see everyone else running in a line.

I tried to remain with the group but even I was in disblief how all of them were killed at the same exact point. Almost died running off that end thinking that didn’t just happen.

Internet connection has absoluetly zero impact on Fps. If your having fps drops your playing at a graphic level higher than your cpu/gpu handle. Just because there is a highest setting availabledoesn’t mean that’s what you should click.

My normal ping without music is 70, with music is 80-90.

Just for fun I loaded into the puzzle with maxed out graphic settings (i.e. the appearance setting vs. performance in the graphics options.) I could barely mouse turn fast enough to get past the first set of snowflakes.. the mouse response was so slow I couldn’t run the puzzle…
I wonder how many people are having problems simply because of graphics performance.
Interestingly enough when I changed my graphics settings to best performance, it actually reduced some of the options lower than I had previously run it (the snowflakes lost their colouring and became a dull matte).

Anyone that’s having problems should probably change their graphics to performance while inside the puzzle because it’s not the same as when in town.

lag can totally affect your graphics display, I’ve seen it happen in bell choir where all the notes get drawn at once or notes are drawn out of sequence…Not sure if streaming multiple videos at once can cause upload packet problems which the server would use to verify your position and keypresses about the only way to test that would be to route traffic through a second server PC and lag it out (still might not drop packets)

the worst case of lag on the jumping puzzle I found was when I got out of sync and was waiting for the next snowflake to show up and the server decided that I was much further behind on a snowflake that had popped (I can only assume that a few position update packets got dropped and never made it to the server)… so while waiting for the next snowflake I simply fish flopped on my current snow flake (the knockdown when the presents pop) until the snowflakes caught up and broke underneath me…

Again thats not the internet connection dropping your frame rate, thats YOUR computer cpu/gpu. Here try this take a heavy single player game, like crysis 3, put the graphics on max settings – then explain why your computer is locked up using your explaination. I’m actually even game if you are able to give a crediable article stating how your internet connection affects your fps.

I have a guildie who can only play with every setting turned on lowest setting because of his cpu bottleneck, but still is able to do the wintersday jp. The auto “best setting” is not actually the best setting mate. You need to start with settings on very low and slowly turn them up until you get to a point where it works out/ is bearable.

Carighan.6758:

But… isn’t this argument one hell of a slippery slope?

It shows my current state of mind when I read this and think, well, yeah, but that’s at the end of the JP and it isn’t slippery if you don’t get hit.

Nightshade.5924:

This SEEMS to be exactly the same JP from Two years ago and definitely Is the same from last year from what I can see.

It is not the same JP as two years ago.

Mechanically, very little has changed from its introduction. You used to only get one present for running the JP. However, when you reached Tixx, he gave you a choice: get a present immediately, with one more waiting if you made it through; forego the immediate gift, and collect three presents at the end; or forego the extra presents and get returned to Tixx if you fell off the puzzle or ran out of life.

Given how buggy the snowballs at the end got this year, the second chance would have been a godsend. But then you’d probably only be getting one present per run, and that’s hardly efficient.

Nightshade.5924:

Still can’t get past the stupid moronic melt under your feet snowflakes. For the third year running. How anyone does, despite evidence to the contrary, is beyond me. Farm it? I’d like to just get to the second stage.

Shame on ANet for gating the WP collection behind something that not everyone can do. Not everyone is a JP god. And it would have been nice to know that the WP collection was set up that way, UNLIKE ANY OTHER COLLECTION THAT I AM CURRENTLY AWARE OF, so that I could have NOT wasted any time or money on it.

The drinks and candy canes were also rather out of control. 10000 of anything should NOT be an achievement slated for 3 weeks… more like 3 months, if not 3 YEARS. Kinda like the WvW achievements. Pretty much an all around EPIC FAIL, so far as I am concerned. And it MUST be said, that’s pretty rare here in GW2. Maybe NEXT year sanity, reason, and common sense will prevail. I certainly HOPE that they will.

Bah Humbug.

So here we are again. Wintersday is here. And wait…

Despite Eight pages of feedback, a good deal of it saying “please remove the JP requirement from Winter’s Presence”….

IT. DID. NOT. HAPPEN.

I quoted one my original posts because all I said there STILL APPLIES. I’ve tried the stupid, insane, )(&%$$%())) JP about 20 times THIS YEAR.

And guess what?

I. HAVE. NOT. GOT. PAST. THE. MELTING. SNOWFLAKES. OF. DROP. YOU. TO. YOUR. DEATH.

It boggles my mind that a non melty version of this puzzle cannot be created. OR even MORE simply, the requirement of FIFTEEN JP completions be REMOVED from the WP requirements.

Or maybe an alternate method, one that is SANE and DOABLE, could be introduced.

Any of these or a combination would make me a MUCH happier customer. I could then REALISTICALLY earn WP.

As long as the JP is part of this collection, I WILL NOT be ABLE to.

Nuff’ Said.

It’s not that hard actually. Just try it. To point that out, I am probably something above average but by far not the best Jumper out there and I have never ever seen any snoflake melt under my feet. That just happens if you are super slow and there is no need to be slow, just jump straight to the next snowflake.

Also, I like if some kind of achievement (take it literally: achievement, you achieve something) is needed to make something. It is a fluff item, not needed.

this is my very first gw2 winters event and i enjoy it very much. some things are difficult and some things are impossible. i thought nice lets go for achievements.

THEN i saw the reward, shoulder skin. i thought omg i want it so i go check wiki and then i saw the prices of the mats. i count some and its nearly 1000 gold to get it by buying all the mats. the drinks are 600+ gold.

this is not normal. this skin is so very awesome but that price is not normal. and becouse its my first winter event i didnt know i had to save money for it. if i can reach it with gem cards i maybe spend some irl money for it. but if i want to convert gems to gold i must spend 100 euro for 8k gems for the skin.

i am not rich so thats a fail. if there was no drinks achie needed maybe i can reach it but for now its a no. and with the rng i have at this moment i am sure i dont go make money with drops.

ProtoGunner.4953:

It’s not that hard actually. Just try it. To point that out, I am probably something above average but by far not the best Jumper out there and I have never ever seen any snoflake melt under my feet. That just happens if you are super slow and there is no need to be slow, just jump straight to the next snowflake.

Also, I like if some kind of achievement (take it literally: achievement, you achieve something) is needed to make something. It is a fluff item, not needed.

I’m guessing you didn’t read my post.

For clarity. I have tried this JP time and time again.

For the last four years.

I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, EVER, GOT PAST THE MELTING SNOWFLAKES.

For the record, I have completed MAYBE HALF of the in game JP’s. And in most cases had help from friends or other players (Mesmers) to allow completion.

And that is why this sort of gating SHOULD NOT EXIST. SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

Not everyone is good at jumping puzzles. I think the best example I can use here is Mike Jordan. I’m sure you’ve heard of him. If you’re over 30, anyway.

My point being is MJ was a Basketball God. He was the MAN. BUT… guess what? When he tried to play PRO BASEBALL… NNNNNnEEEEPPppTTTT!!! WRONG ANSWER!! EPIC FAIL!

So… anyone can play the game. But there’s only, what, a few hundred guys that compete at the world level for PvP? There are Three or four servers that DOMINATE WvW? ARE YOU GETTING THE POINT?

I hope so. And I REALLY, REALLY HOPE THAT THE DEVS DO TOO.

For ME, and MANY others, the WD JP is just not doable. And that Gate should be REMOVED from WP. It is the ONLY collection that I am CURRENTLY aware of that has such a thing.

nuff said.

Nightshade.5924:

ProtoGunner.4953:

It’s not that hard actually. Just try it. To point that out, I am probably something above average but by far not the best Jumper out there and I have never ever seen any snoflake melt under my feet. That just happens if you are super slow and there is no need to be slow, just jump straight to the next snowflake.

Also, I like if some kind of achievement (take it literally: achievement, you achieve something) is needed to make something. It is a fluff item, not needed.

I’m guessing you didn’t read my post.

For clarity. I have tried this JP time and time again.

For the last four years.

I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, EVER, GOT PAST THE MELTING SNOWFLAKES.

For the record, I have completed MAYBE HALF of the in game JP’s. And in most cases had help from friends or other players (Mesmers) to allow completion.

And that is why this sort of gating SHOULD NOT EXIST. SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

Not everyone is good at jumping puzzles. I think the best example I can use here is Mike Jordan. I’m sure you’ve heard of him. If you’re over 30, anyway.

My point being is MJ was a Basketball God. He was the MAN. BUT… guess what? When he tried to play PRO BASEBALL… NNNNNnEEEEPPppTTTT!!! WRONG ANSWER!! EPIC FAIL!

So… anyone can play the game. But there’s only, what, a few hundred guys that compete at the world level for PvP? There are Three or four servers that DOMINATE WvW? ARE YOU GETTING THE POINT?

I hope so. And I REALLY, REALLY HOPE THAT THE DEVS DO TOO.

For ME, and MANY others, the WD JP is just not doable. And that Gate should be REMOVED from WP. It is the ONLY collection that I am CURRENTLY aware of that has such a thing.

nuff said.

I don’t like Toypocolypse, Bell Choir or Snowball Mayhem, but I don’t think those requirements should be removed from Winter’s Presence acquisition. I’ll just have to grin and bare it and try and get the Snowball wins and Bell Choir done. If I don’t, oh well. It’s not pertinent to obtain this skin at all, if you want it, you’ll do the requirements like everyone else.

if i read all these comments its better anet give us the achievement rewards and then remove the whole achievement.

Haleydawn.3764:

Nightshade.5924:

ProtoGunner.4953:

It’s not that hard actually. Just try it. To point that out, I am probably something above average but by far not the best Jumper out there and I have never ever seen any snoflake melt under my feet. That just happens if you are super slow and there is no need to be slow, just jump straight to the next snowflake.

Also, I like if some kind of achievement (take it literally: achievement, you achieve something) is needed to make something. It is a fluff item, not needed.

I’m guessing you didn’t read my post.

For clarity. I have tried this JP time and time again.

For the last four years.

I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, EVER, GOT PAST THE MELTING SNOWFLAKES.

For the record, I have completed MAYBE HALF of the in game JP’s. And in most cases had help from friends or other players (Mesmers) to allow completion.

And that is why this sort of gating SHOULD NOT EXIST. SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

Not everyone is good at jumping puzzles. I think the best example I can use here is Mike Jordan. I’m sure you’ve heard of him. If you’re over 30, anyway.

My point being is MJ was a Basketball God. He was the MAN. BUT… guess what? When he tried to play PRO BASEBALL… NNNNNnEEEEPPppTTTT!!! WRONG ANSWER!! EPIC FAIL!

So… anyone can play the game. But there’s only, what, a few hundred guys that compete at the world level for PvP? There are Three or four servers that DOMINATE WvW? ARE YOU GETTING THE POINT?

I hope so. And I REALLY, REALLY HOPE THAT THE DEVS DO TOO.

For ME, and MANY others, the WD JP is just not doable. And that Gate should be REMOVED from WP. It is the ONLY collection that I am CURRENTLY aware of that has such a thing.

nuff said.

I don’t like Toypocolypse, Bell Choir or Snowball Mayhem, but I don’t think those requirements should be removed from Winter’s Presence acquisition. I’ll just have to grin and bare it and try and get the Snowball wins and Bell Choir done. If I don’t, oh well. It’s not pertinent to obtain this skin at all, if you want it, you’ll do the requirements like everyone else.

I’m perplexed. Why are you even playing GW? You can’t do open world combat? Really? You don’t PvP? Really?

Because THAT’s what Toyocolypse is. Open world w/ altered weapons. Because that’s what Snowball Mayhem is… PvP w/ altered powers.

You’re saying YOU CAN’T EVEN DO MAIN CONTENT, and you have the NERVE to comment ON MY HATRED OF JUMPING PUZZLES?

Dude. So WRONG. I agree that the Choir is annoying.. but doable. UNLIKE the JP.

Nightshade.5924:

Haleydawn.3764:

Nightshade.5924:

ProtoGunner.4953:

It’s not that hard actually. Just try it. To point that out, I am probably something above average but by far not the best Jumper out there and I have never ever seen any snoflake melt under my feet. That just happens if you are super slow and there is no need to be slow, just jump straight to the next snowflake.

Also, I like if some kind of achievement (take it literally: achievement, you achieve something) is needed to make something. It is a fluff item, not needed.

I’m guessing you didn’t read my post.

For clarity. I have tried this JP time and time again.

For the last four years.

I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, EVER, GOT PAST THE MELTING SNOWFLAKES.

For the record, I have completed MAYBE HALF of the in game JP’s. And in most cases had help from friends or other players (Mesmers) to allow completion.

And that is why this sort of gating SHOULD NOT EXIST. SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

Not everyone is good at jumping puzzles. I think the best example I can use here is Mike Jordan. I’m sure you’ve heard of him. If you’re over 30, anyway.

My point being is MJ was a Basketball God. He was the MAN. BUT… guess what? When he tried to play PRO BASEBALL… NNNNNnEEEEPPppTTTT!!! WRONG ANSWER!! EPIC FAIL!

So… anyone can play the game. But there’s only, what, a few hundred guys that compete at the world level for PvP? There are Three or four servers that DOMINATE WvW? ARE YOU GETTING THE POINT?

I hope so. And I REALLY, REALLY HOPE THAT THE DEVS DO TOO.

For ME, and MANY others, the WD JP is just not doable. And that Gate should be REMOVED from WP. It is the ONLY collection that I am CURRENTLY aware of that has such a thing.

nuff said.

I don’t like Toypocolypse, Bell Choir or Snowball Mayhem, but I don’t think those requirements should be removed from Winter’s Presence acquisition. I’ll just have to grin and bare it and try and get the Snowball wins and Bell Choir done. If I don’t, oh well. It’s not pertinent to obtain this skin at all, if you want it, you’ll do the requirements like everyone else.

I’m perplexed. Why are you even playing GW? You can’t do open world combat? Really? You don’t PvP? Really?

Because THAT’s what Toyocolypse is. Open world w/ altered weapons. Because that’s what Snowball Mayhem is… PvP w/ altered powers.

You’re saying YOU CAN’T EVEN DO MAIN CONTENT, and you have the NERVE to comment ON MY HATRED OF JUMPING PUZZLES?

Dude. So WRONG. I agree that the Choir is annoying.. but doable. UNLIKE the JP.

The adjusted weapons are precisely the reason I don’t like them. They’re clunky, slow and sometimes a bit laggy, as is bell choir. I don’t hate them, just not fond of it.
I’m an avid PvP/WvW’er. But I generally play a bit of everything. Just because you seem to think you can’t do a pretty easy jumping puzzle doesn’t mean It’s not doable.
I actually find your argument for removing it funny. Because your only argument is that you can’t do it. That’s it.

I have to disagree. Just because you aren’t able or willing to do it, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be part of a decorative item. You have to live with the fact that not everything is achievable. Or are people complaining that they can’t earn the PvP legendary just because they aren’t good at PvP?

Haleydawn.3764:

Nightshade.5924:

Haleydawn.3764:

Nightshade.5924:

ProtoGunner.4953:

It’s not that hard actually. Just try it. To point that out, I am probably something above average but by far not the best Jumper out there and I have never ever seen any snoflake melt under my feet. That just happens if you are super slow and there is no need to be slow, just jump straight to the next snowflake.

Also, I like if some kind of achievement (take it literally: achievement, you achieve something) is needed to make something. It is a fluff item, not needed.

I’m guessing you didn’t read my post.

For clarity. I have tried this JP time and time again.

For the last four years.

I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, EVER, GOT PAST THE MELTING SNOWFLAKES.

For the record, I have completed MAYBE HALF of the in game JP’s. And in most cases had help from friends or other players (Mesmers) to allow completion.

And that is why this sort of gating SHOULD NOT EXIST. SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

Not everyone is good at jumping puzzles. I think the best example I can use here is Mike Jordan. I’m sure you’ve heard of him. If you’re over 30, anyway.

My point being is MJ was a Basketball God. He was the MAN. BUT… guess what? When he tried to play PRO BASEBALL… NNNNNnEEEEPPppTTTT!!! WRONG ANSWER!! EPIC FAIL!

So… anyone can play the game. But there’s only, what, a few hundred guys that compete at the world level for PvP? There are Three or four servers that DOMINATE WvW? ARE YOU GETTING THE POINT?

I hope so. And I REALLY, REALLY HOPE THAT THE DEVS DO TOO.

For ME, and MANY others, the WD JP is just not doable. And that Gate should be REMOVED from WP. It is the ONLY collection that I am CURRENTLY aware of that has such a thing.

nuff said.

I don’t like Toypocolypse, Bell Choir or Snowball Mayhem, but I don’t think those requirements should be removed from Winter’s Presence acquisition. I’ll just have to grin and bare it and try and get the Snowball wins and Bell Choir done. If I don’t, oh well. It’s not pertinent to obtain this skin at all, if you want it, you’ll do the requirements like everyone else.

I’m perplexed. Why are you even playing GW? You can’t do open world combat? Really? You don’t PvP? Really?

Because THAT’s what Toyocolypse is. Open world w/ altered weapons. Because that’s what Snowball Mayhem is… PvP w/ altered powers.

You’re saying YOU CAN’T EVEN DO MAIN CONTENT, and you have the NERVE to comment ON MY HATRED OF JUMPING PUZZLES?

Dude. So WRONG. I agree that the Choir is annoying.. but doable. UNLIKE the JP.

The adjusted weapons are precisely the reason I don’t like them. They’re clunky, slow and sometimes a bit laggy, as is bell choir. I don’t hate them, just not fond of it.
I’m an avid PvP/WvW’er. But I generally play a bit of everything. Just because you seem to think you can’t do a pretty easy jumping puzzle doesn’t mean It’s not doable.
I actually find your argument for removing it funny. Because your only argument is that you can’t do it. That’s it.

And again My point seems to escape you.

An EASY jumping puzzle is one that anyone can do. Say Shaman’s Run.

And I don’t THINK I can’t do this puzzle. I KNOW I can’t. Again w/ you not reading. Go back to the original post. I’ve tried dozens of times to get past the (&%!#$%^& melt under your feet snowflakes. I. CANNOT. DO. IT.

There’s a reason I only have done about HALF of the JP’s in the game. I SUCK AT THEM. Going back to Shaman run? The first time I tried it,… hmmm. I think It took me something like 10 tries. Probably more, though.

And for the record, the three guys that I play most often w/ agree w/ me. None of us, to the best of my knowledge, have EVER completed the WD JP.

JP’s ARE NOT MAIN CONTENT. THEY ARE SPECIALIZED CONTENT. THEY SHOULD NEVER BE USED TO GATE ANYTHING LIKE A COLLECTION THAT IS OPEN TO ALL PLAYERS.

OR.. the WD JP should be made available ALL YEAR. So maybe after another YEAR of trying it, I might complete it ONCE. Or TWICE. So that’s, what, seven years to get the achievement?

If you really want it so badly, ask a friend who does it for you. I think the majority of players is able to finish this, shouldn’t be that much of a problem.

I don’t think 10k drinks is grindy at all. What is that? 40 or 50 straight hours of exclusively doing the JP? Sounds like pure fun to me!!! I’d recommend that they change it to 350k drinks because that too would be enjoyable. Maybe make you do about 100 hours of infunarium as well.

Nightshade.5924:

And again My point seems to escape you.

An EASY jumping puzzle is one that anyone can do. Say Shaman’s Run.

And I don’t THINK I can’t do this puzzle. I KNOW I can’t. Again w/ you not reading. Go back to the original post. I’ve tried dozens of times to get past the (&%!#$%^& melt under your feet snowflakes. I. CANNOT. DO. IT.

There’s a reason I only have done about HALF of the JP’s in the game. I SUCK AT THEM. Going back to Shaman run? The first time I tried it,… hmmm. I think It took me something like 10 tries. Probably more, though.

And for the record, the three guys that I play most often w/ agree w/ me. None of us, to the best of my knowledge, have EVER completed the WD JP.

JP’s ARE NOT MAIN CONTENT. THEY ARE SPECIALIZED CONTENT. THEY SHOULD NEVER BE USED TO GATE ANYTHING LIKE A COLLECTION THAT IS OPEN TO ALL PLAYERS.

OR.. the WD JP should be made available ALL YEAR. So maybe after another YEAR of trying it, I might complete it ONCE. Or TWICE. So that’s, what, seven years to get the achievement?

How can you not do it 3 times? It’s a really easy jp. I do 10-13 on average every run (and I can’t say I’m a pro at jumping) . Just keep moving, don’t stay in one place for too long.

Nightshade.5924:

Haleydawn.3764:

Nightshade.5924:

Haleydawn.3764:

Nightshade.5924:

ProtoGunner.4953:

It’s not that hard actually. Just try it. To point that out, I am probably something above average but by far not the best Jumper out there and I have never ever seen any snoflake melt under my feet. That just happens if you are super slow and there is no need to be slow, just jump straight to the next snowflake.

Also, I like if some kind of achievement (take it literally: achievement, you achieve something) is needed to make something. It is a fluff item, not needed.

I’m guessing you didn’t read my post.

For clarity. I have tried this JP time and time again.

For the last four years.

I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, EVER, GOT PAST THE MELTING SNOWFLAKES.

For the record, I have completed MAYBE HALF of the in game JP’s. And in most cases had help from friends or other players (Mesmers) to allow completion.

And that is why this sort of gating SHOULD NOT EXIST. SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

Not everyone is good at jumping puzzles. I think the best example I can use here is Mike Jordan. I’m sure you’ve heard of him. If you’re over 30, anyway.

My point being is MJ was a Basketball God. He was the MAN. BUT… guess what? When he tried to play PRO BASEBALL… NNNNNnEEEEPPppTTTT!!! WRONG ANSWER!! EPIC FAIL!

So… anyone can play the game. But there’s only, what, a few hundred guys that compete at the world level for PvP? There are Three or four servers that DOMINATE WvW? ARE YOU GETTING THE POINT?

I hope so. And I REALLY, REALLY HOPE THAT THE DEVS DO TOO.

For ME, and MANY others, the WD JP is just not doable. And that Gate should be REMOVED from WP. It is the ONLY collection that I am CURRENTLY aware of that has such a thing.

nuff said.

I don’t like Toypocolypse, Bell Choir or Snowball Mayhem, but I don’t think those requirements should be removed from Winter’s Presence acquisition. I’ll just have to grin and bare it and try and get the Snowball wins and Bell Choir done. If I don’t, oh well. It’s not pertinent to obtain this skin at all, if you want it, you’ll do the requirements like everyone else.

I’m perplexed. Why are you even playing GW? You can’t do open world combat? Really? You don’t PvP? Really?

Because THAT’s what Toyocolypse is. Open world w/ altered weapons. Because that’s what Snowball Mayhem is… PvP w/ altered powers.

You’re saying YOU CAN’T EVEN DO MAIN CONTENT, and you have the NERVE to comment ON MY HATRED OF JUMPING PUZZLES?

Dude. So WRONG. I agree that the Choir is annoying.. but doable. UNLIKE the JP.

The adjusted weapons are precisely the reason I don’t like them. They’re clunky, slow and sometimes a bit laggy, as is bell choir. I don’t hate them, just not fond of it.
I’m an avid PvP/WvW’er. But I generally play a bit of everything. Just because you seem to think you can’t do a pretty easy jumping puzzle doesn’t mean It’s not doable.
I actually find your argument for removing it funny. Because your only argument is that you can’t do it. That’s it.

And again My point seems to escape you.

An EASY jumping puzzle is one that anyone can do. Say Shaman’s Run.

And I don’t THINK I can’t do this puzzle. I KNOW I can’t. Again w/ you not reading. Go back to the original post. I’ve tried dozens of times to get past the (&%!#$%^& melt under your feet snowflakes. I. CANNOT. DO. IT.

There’s a reason I only have done about HALF of the JP’s in the game. I SUCK AT THEM. Going back to Shaman run? The first time I tried it,… hmmm. I think It took me something like 10 tries. Probably more, though.

And for the record, the three guys that I play most often w/ agree w/ me. None of us, to the best of my knowledge, have EVER completed the WD JP.

JP’s ARE NOT MAIN CONTENT. THEY ARE SPECIALIZED CONTENT. THEY SHOULD NEVER BE USED TO GATE ANYTHING LIKE A COLLECTION THAT IS OPEN TO ALL PLAYERS.

OR.. the WD JP should be made available ALL YEAR. So maybe after another YEAR of trying it, I might complete it ONCE. Or TWICE. So that’s, what, seven years to get the achievement?

Why aren’t you able to get past the melting snowflakes?

Are you lagging? Are you hindered by some disease? Simply bad at jumping?

Nightshade.5924:

And I don’t THINK I can’t do this puzzle. I KNOW I can’t.

You’ve completely psyched yourself out mentally now. Have you watched tutorial videos? Asked tips from other players? What makes the snowflake part hard, can you not run fast enough?

I’m with Nightshade on the impossibility of the JP. It has to do with how I control movement in the game. I’ve tried now and then to WASD and my left hand is just too clumsy to control multiple keys at once. Yes I can touch type at a good speed but that is one key at a time. So I mouse move and without time to lift my mouse and put it back in the middle of the pad, I run out of room.

I did one time get past all the melting flakes. I don’t remember what happened next, only that I didn’t get much further. It’s not a matter of not knowing the path, I’ve seen enough videos, it’s a fast-speed-control issue.

Speaking of videos, here is one. I link it not because it is a 4 year old doing the JP (before people go lol, so easy kids can do it, I remind those people that Mozart first composed music when five years old and that doesn’t mean music composition is super easy), but because it gives a very clear shot of her use of keyboard and mouse.

Now I know that my hands, while small, are larger than hers. Could someone perhaps give me a break down of what keys she is pressing to do what, and what role the mouse has? I might be able to replicate it if I know exactly what I am supposed to press when.

And then if I got the JP done enough times, I could consider the 10K drinks and perhaps have the shoulders by next year.

Donari.5237:

I’m with Nightshade on the impossibility of the JP. It has to do with how I control movement in the game. I’ve tried now and then to WASD and my left hand is just too clumsy to control multiple keys at once. Yes I can touch type at a good speed but that is one key at a time. So I mouse move and without time to lift my mouse and put it back in the middle of the pad, I run out of room.

I did one time get past all the melting flakes. I don’t remember what happened next, only that I didn’t get much further. It’s not a matter of not knowing the path, I’ve seen enough videos, it’s a fast-speed-control issue.

Speaking of videos, here is one. I link it not because it is a 4 year old doing the JP (before people go lol, so easy kids can do it, I remind those people that Mozart first composed music when five years old and that doesn’t mean music composition is super easy), but because it gives a very clear shot of her use of keyboard and mouse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3sdRGkEFi8

Now I know that my hands, while small, are larger than hers. Could someone perhaps give me a break down of what keys she is pressing to do what, and what role the mouse has? I might be able to replicate it if I know exactly what I am supposed to press when.

And then if I got the JP done enough times, I could consider the 10K drinks and perhaps have the shoulders by next year.

How I do it is have my left index finger on W for forward movement, hold and release as necessary; left thumb on the space bar to jump; right hand uses the mouse to change the camera orientation (holding the right click). Rather than change directions with ASD I hold W and adjust the camera angle to run the direction I want.

Donari.5237:

Now I know that my hands, while small, are larger than hers. Could someone perhaps give me a break down of what keys she is pressing to do what, and what role the mouse has? I might be able to replicate it if I know exactly what I am supposed to press when.

She is using the W key to move forward and space bar for jumping, and she is using the mouse to control the direction and camera angle. Holding down the right mouse button while slightly moving the mouse will (with default settings) change the angle the camera is facing, and (if used while running) will also change the direction in which you are running.

That’s how I do jumping puzzles (especially this one), as well. Basically, my right mouse button is just being held down the entire time, with me moving the mouse to the direction I need to go. And I’m either holding down or carefully tapping the W key to move forward as needed. It works well for me (a lot better than slowly turning using the other direction keys), even with my own small hands.

Thanks, guys, I’ll give that a go today some time.

i jump with spacebar and further i hold the left mouse button the whole time. with that i can do free look and if i press right mouse button also then i move. i dont use the w key at all.

RoseofGilead.8907:

She is using the W key to move forward and space bar for jumping, and she is using the mouse to control the direction and camera angle. Holding down the right mouse button while slightly moving the mouse will (with default settings) change the angle the camera is facing, and (if used while running) will also change the direction in which you are running.

That’s how I do jumping puzzles (especially this one), as well. Basically, my right mouse button is just being held down the entire time, with me moving the mouse to the direction I need to go. And I’m either holding down or carefully tapping the W key to move forward as needed. It works well for me (a lot better than slowly turning using the other direction keys), even with my own small hands.

I do this using the same method. I have been able to complete this JP in years past. I have although ran into something odd happening this year I have not had happen in years past.

On the path where you are avoiding the giant snowballs…on the last stretch before you make the final jumps to the end…I have been running right in the middle…and all of a sudden I am sliding down the side…i haven’t dodged, or stopped or changed direction…its the last segment where you run and jump to the “spilled” presents…I am running up the path and its like I run off the side. Its happened every time I have tried this year. Definitely odd.

I can understand and sympathize with the frustration, but give the method Rose and Black Iris have suggested a try. Frustration is a hard thing to handle, but keep trying…work each segment and you will get a pattern down. I always run the path on the far right. It may not be the best choice, but its the one I learned best(and was easiest for me) and I can complete the snowflake section pretty easily now to get to the midway point and be safe.

Good luck!

Thorfinnr Sleggja.1209:

RoseofGilead.8907:

She is using the W key to move forward and space bar for jumping, and she is using the mouse to control the direction and camera angle. Holding down the right mouse button while slightly moving the mouse will (with default settings) change the angle the camera is facing, and (if used while running) will also change the direction in which you are running.

That’s how I do jumping puzzles (especially this one), as well. Basically, my right mouse button is just being held down the entire time, with me moving the mouse to the direction I need to go. And I’m either holding down or carefully tapping the W key to move forward as needed. It works well for me (a lot better than slowly turning using the other direction keys), even with my own small hands.

I do this using the same method. I have been able to complete this JP in years past. I have although ran into something odd happening this year I have not had happen in years past.

On the path where you are avoiding the giant snowballs…on the last stretch before you make the final jumps to the end…I have been running right in the middle…and all of a sudden I am sliding down the side…i haven’t dodged, or stopped or changed direction…its the last segment where you run and jump to the “spilled” presents…I am running up the path and its like I run off the side. Its happened every time I have tried this year. Definitely odd.

I can understand and sympathize with the frustration, but give the method Rose and Black Iris have suggested a try. Frustration is a hard thing to handle, but keep trying…work each segment and you will get a pattern down. I always run the path on the far right. It may not be the best choice, but its the one I learned best(and was easiest for me) and I can complete the snowflake section pretty easily now to get to the midway point and be safe.

Good luck!

I’ve had that happen a few times, I find that bunny hopping up the slope helps prevent sliding

The only issue I have is that Superior Mischief and Snowfall runes do not drop this year. Well that and getting 10k drinks is taking forever lol

I hope that everybody who enjoys these activities gets the skins they want.

… and remember, in the future robots will do all the repetitive jobs so we can play.

I have looked at a lot of the posts and yes when your so stressed out trying to do the jp once let alone three times or trying to get the rune 10,000 drinks it does take the fun out of winters day I play guild was to get rid of life’s stress the last thing I need is the game making more

To me, the reason why including the jp achievement with the cosmetic is that every other collection here only requires participation or time. Yes, the drinks and runes cost a bunch of time/money, but theoretically anyone can do them. The other activities, it does not matter if you “win” only that you participated in some capacity.

Winter wonderland, on the other hand, has to be completed. Not only that, it must be completed 3 times. And, contrary to what some have stated, it is more difficult than most of the jp present in the game (which can be mostly ignored as there are few exclusives riding on their completion). For people who dislike/are not good at jp this can feel prohibitive to the point where it kills part of the experience of playing a game.

edit: woops forgot about the claw of jormag part, but that can be done in a group and has rewards people want regardless of the holiday event so there are usually enough people to complete it.

Then none of you are going to like this.

Some say Quaggan path is the easiest. I prefer Gingerbread Man path. Took me nearly all of last Wintersday to be able to do it 3 times. Earlier today I did it 7 times in the 1/2 hour session. I’m more Zen now doing it, which is how I finally did it last year. I use to panic thinking the flake will dissolve under me because someone got to it first and really you have a second or two.

hello I’m back I have more to add to this .
winters day what was to be a fun time turns in to a grind costing more gold and karma then it is worth after two years its time to rethink what this event is about
achievements that are mind numbing and add more stress then they needed
at this point I’m done winters day is no longer fun to me when you put the fun back in to it shout till then happy Xmas

I was one of those last year that just couldn’t do the JP and I gave up on it. This year, I’ve done it 9 times, with a 5 in a row streak.

Over the past year, I started taking a Mesmer through all the JPs in the game. ALL. I tried the clock tower and failed.

I spent 15 minutes, after drinking a few beers and some…cough other aids, got nice and relaxed, and every time through, I made it further and further. If you fail at the same jump every time, STOP, evaluate the jump and why you are missing it.

I find the left path to be the easiest, but it’s also because it’s the only path I’ve done this year and muscle memory is what this JP is about.

If the JP is making you mad, you won’t make it through. You need to be relaxed. When you are tense and getting upset, you set yourself up to make the same mistakes over and over.

I was terribad at JPs a year ago. Maybe try to go through the other JPs on your own Mesmer, so you can safety port and learn how to jump with that race. I prefer asura. My husband uses a Charr because he hates himself, but he has done the JP over 30 times in the past 4 days.

Haleydawn.3764:

Just because you seem to think you can’t do a pretty easy jumping puzzle doesn’t mean It’s not doable.

You may think it is an easy JP, but that doesn’t mean it is. For me, its one of the three hardest ones in the game (the other two are Clocktower and Skipping Stones). Yes, compared to this one, Aetherblade one is a walk in the park.

Edit: add the Ember Bay volcano one to the list. I keep forgetting it exists, and i don’t really consider it a JP (more like a “guess which pixel works and which doesn’t” kind of puzzle).

It’s really annoying how you can not do things with your friends in Wintersday instances. We were a group of 4 people trying to do the Toymaker’s Mayhem where you build constructs to defend the Dolyaks, but entering with a group is impossible. The only thing you can do is pray for one of you to join an empty instance, and then the rest of the party joins them ASAP (but that sometimes takes you to an entirely different instance with other people, wat?).

Also, I just came back from a 2year break and it’s a bit disheartening to see the JP being the exact same as when I left. It somehow seemed easier than last time I tried though. I’d love to see some changes to the event, not just the same every year, but that requires developement, so I get it.

150 – Mystic Coin, way too expensive

50 Superior Sigil of Mischief
and
50 Superior Rune of Snowfall

I started playing a couple of months ago, removing these items from the loot table (you could have just added them as a rare drop) made the price skyrocket.

The mystic coins cost required in the rune/sigil recipes is just way too high to craft them.
Then there is a flat 150 mystic coins just for a seasonal skin.
To craft up all the required runes/sigils would take 1,450 mystic coins.

I collected everything I can, because I do want it (already gotten everything up to the rune/sigil/Magnanimous Obsidian Crystal)
But please make the cost of the item a bit more reasonable.

How about using the Wintersday drinks as substitutes for mystic coins?

I have to say, ever since I saw Winter’s Presence I wanted it. Then when I looked at the requirements, I became a sad panda. I also missed out last Wintersday as I was on an extended rage quit break, so the 10k drinks out of season was daunting. I was just shy of 5k when the Wintersday patch was released, but I had seen to Mystic Forging the essences and the crystal ahead of time (tip for anything like Mystic coins and things from the TP en masse: place a buy order and save cash. Got the coins within 30 minutes of placing the order much more cheaply. I’ve ended up doing the same for the drinks, and have saved cash and reached 10k much quicker).

Did the bell ringing (it’s an activity I’m not fussed on either way), snowball PvP within the hour of logging in after the patch release. The Claw took two days because of the event times, but no issue. Toypocalypse I started without realising it: my kid logged on to my account and played half the required rounds before I saw she was on my account not hers (!). I managed the rest no problem, as it’s not a particularly difficult activity. Just a little time investment.

The JP was the thing I was most concerned over, having not been a natural on those things. Most of the ones in the core game I’ve gotten (admittedly some with portals which were not mine), and somewhere along the way I must’ve become better as I managed Winter Wonderland in two sessions. The first session was just figuring the thing out - I’ve never done it successfully before (I think I did about two snowflakes a few years ago and never bothered again). I did the Gingerbread path and then kept failing on Quaggan, so took a break. Went back to it later in the day, and took my time watching other people jumping the path, and following them, and then just doing the Quaggan path over and over. On my successful run of this path, I literally told myself that this time, this was the success, and it seemed to do the trick, plus some deep breaths (I get panicky with the puzzles). I think the calming down and counter-intuitively taking my time (you have longer on the snowflakes than you think, but not too much longer), plus the subsequent occasional mouse/camera readjusts, helped a lot.

Riding on that success, I then went and ran the Snowman path in one go - my heart was thumping out of my chest with adrenaline all the way (ow), but I did what I needed to. The shoulders are awesome, and I hope everyone who wants the skin, whichever part of the grind to get there bugs you or seems impossible, manages to acquire it too.

Regardless, Happy Wintersday to all, and to all a good night!*

EDIT:* Ceridwen wrote this at midday in her timezone, so... to all a good afternoon, also...

*finishes Winters’ Presence
*equips it
*equips winter outfit
*no snow

*cries in quaggan

Yeah, I was disappointed when I found out they’d removed the runes/sigils from the loot table. I’d love to have the shoulders but not at that price. I’ll probably just do the activities bit of the collection, maybe the drinks too if that happens naturally (I have about 1,200 unused in my inventory right now since not sure whether to use or sell), and leave the rest til next year and hope they get reintroduced as loot.

On that note, the collection I start this year isn’t likely to disappear next year or anything right? I wasn’t around last year so…

The best I’ve done in the jumping puzzle this year is 12 in the half hour, but that was when I was in a half asleep zen-like state at 2am one day, usually I average around 4-6 if I stay for the whole half hour, and am in the right frame of mind.
I’ve also had the strange “slipping off the slope as I run up” thing happen to me.

My jumping puzzle/movement control method is to be constantly holding down the right mouse button for camera rotation/running direction, when I want to run I hold down the left mouse button too, then my left hand thumb is on the space bar for jumping and I occasionally tap a or d for fine movement corrections (have these set up to strafe rather than turn)

Strangely I have more trouble with the bell ringing minigame, I don’t know if it’s lag or if I just amn’t hitting the keys when the bubbles are in the right position or what but I miss so many notes when I feel like I shouldn’t have.

Rashagar.8349:

On that note, the collection I start this year isn’t likely to disappear next year or anything right? I wasn’t around last year so…

They carry over through the years, yes

Since they moved Winter’s Presence into the rare collections rather than a festival meta, and put Festival Imbiber into the Community Achievement tab, could people work on it in the off season this year?

I’m not reading all 8 pages; but I read the first 3.
I’m more shocked people are, it seems, offended the Wintersday Jumping Puzzle is needed for a Wintersday achievement/skin. I’ve been playing since GW1 and beta and this was the first year I attempted the puzzle; got it my third try. There are tons of videos and help out there, and it’s not unreasonable to have /3/ successful runs be part of the achievement. It could have been 30 like the toypocalypse rounds needed. I was expecting 10-15 to be honest when I first started looking into it.
I think all of the requirements for Winter’s Presence is very reasonable for casual and hardcore AP hunters except for the drinking. 10k is a pretty obnoxious number. I have a guildie who had over 1k gold. He is broke now to under 100g after buying 2 Wintersday skin and trying to attain all of the drinks as well as the sigils/runes needed. I have no hope of myself ever getting it if he is still farming the puzzle for presents to get drinks and tonics out of.
I do LOVE that the drinks have a consume all button. My future carpal tunnel thanks you hahaha.
I have never liked the concept of outfits after the change to town clothes. Even with town clothes I could mix and match the pieces until they were forced together; and I stopped using them after that. I would love to have my affects as another tab to be placed on outfit or armor. Recently, the black luminescent was acquired for my pvp necro . . .and then found out it can’t be seen in PvP I can only assume because of the buff it gives. If that was turned into an affect tab I could turn just the look on and off, I’d buy more or try to get more affects like that.

I must mirror the concern above my post; can we work on this all year? Obviously the Wintersday ones need to be during Wintersday, like the puzzle and gift yak, but the drinks and the mystic forge items could be all year. . .

One of my biggest complaints about Wintersday would have to be the lack of available party situations. There is the Tixx Infararium (sp). and that is it. As a guild leader trying to keep people together in game, this is hard to do with Wintersday events. I understand everything has been made instanced, but there could be a queue like the old WvW reset where parties seemed to have been pushed together in queue..that only when 5 slots were available did it pop for everyone. At least let them go into the same instance 1 by 1 when it opens if they’re in a party…

Missy.6803:

I have a guildie who had over 1k gold. He is broke now to under 100g

first world problems, mate
‘broke with under 100g’
If you 100g is insignificant to you, you know where to mail it

Amaimon.7823:

Missy.6803:

I have a guildie who had over 1k gold. He is broke now to under 100g

first world problems, mate
‘broke with under 100g’
If you 100g is insignificant to you, you know where to mail it

I think the point was ‘over 900 gold spent’

I was able to work on the drinks, plus the Essence of Mischief, Essence of Snowfall and the Magnanimous Obsidian Crystal at other times this year. I’ll repeat putting in Buyer Orders is better on your cash flow situation, and drinks are more expensive off-season.

Only the blueprint, JP, Snowball Mayhem, Toypocalypse, Claw of Jormag and Bell Choir have to be done in the Wintersday festival period.

Missy.6803:

I’m not reading all 8 pages; but I read the first 3.
I’m more shocked people are, it seems, offended the Wintersday Jumping Puzzle is needed for a Wintersday achievement/skin. I’ve been playing since GW1 and beta and this was the first year I attempted the puzzle; got it my third try. There are tons of videos and help out there, and it’s not unreasonable to have /3/ successful runs be part of the achievement. I think all of the requirements for Winter’s Presence is very reasonable for casual and hardcore AP hunters except for the drinking. 10k is a pretty obnoxious number. I have a guildie who had over 1k gold. He is broke now to under 100g after buying 2 Wintersday skin and trying to attain all of the drinks as well as the sigils/runes needed. I have no hope of myself ever getting it if he is still farming the puzzle for presents to get drinks and tonics out of.
I do LOVE that the drinks have a consume all button. My future carpal tunnel thanks you hahaha.
I must mirror the concern above my post; can we work on this all year? Obviously the Wintersday ones need to be during Wintersday, like the puzzle and gift yak, but the drinks and the mystic forge items could be all year. . .

Hmm. My impression is that the WD JP is undoable. And that it was 15 completions, not three. But maybe I misread that part. To further understand where I’m coming from, read the most recent page for my posts this year.

Just came from GW2. Was shaking my head when I COULD NOT get into the JP. Apparently it’s full. Myself, I seriously CANNOT understand why ANYONE would do that sadistic cruel breakoff puzzle for FUN. But apparently many people don’t agree with me.

You can talk about walkthoughs, hints etc. That does NOT help me. For instance, If I understand correctly, at some point in the “first part”, there are some candy cane striped “bars” that you have jump across to get to the next series of melty snowflakes of doom.

Now. PLEASE CLEARLY PICTURE THIS. I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN TO THOSE “BARS”
Never. Not once. EVER. I have NEVER seen them IN GAME.

For me, there is NO jumping puzzle that is easy. I’ve posted that Shaman’s Run probably took me ten times the first time. But memory is fallible, especially since that was over three years ago. Let’s go to a MUCH more recent attempt.

I’m going to presume that we’re all familiar w/ the HoT zones. In Auric Basin there is a jumping puzzle that spirals up and up and up the inside of this cavern. There’s a Vista there too. It’s actually pretty neat for a JP.

So I’m going to guess that most, if not all, of you jumpers think that that puzzle is DEAD EASY. Piece of cake, NO CHALLENGE AT ALL. I’m right, aren’t I?

I FELL THREE TIMES IN MORE OR LESS THE SAME PLACE. Now, thanks to my glider, I was able to recover twice and get back, but I fell way further the third time. I WOULD NOT HAVE COMPLETED THAT PUZZLE, IF ONE OF MY GAMING BUDS HAD NOT BEEN THERE. I used the in game teleport and jumped to him. Otherwise, I would have LEFT. I can stand banging my head against a wall only so long.

And here all of you are telling me… “Keep banging your head. You can do it!”

I can’t beat Michael Phelps in a swimming race. I can’t outthink Stephen Hawking. I can’t outcook Gordon Ramsey. I can’t outspend Bill Gates. In short, there’s lots of things that any one of us here IS NOT CAPABLE OF.

I find it mind boggling that none of you seem to be able to grasp that some people JUST CAN’T DO JUMPING PUZZLES. Especially one that is SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO BE VERY DIFFICULT.

Another trick. Turn down your graphic to best performance (leave sampling to native) to maximize your framerate. It really helped me as I normally favor pretty over framerate.

Behellagh.1468:

Another trick. Turn down your graphic to best performance (leave sampling to native) to maximize your framerate. It really helped me as I normally favor pretty over framerate.

Question…. Just EXACTLY how many snowflakes is it, on the center path, From the START to the candy cane “bars”. I ask because it seems to me like you totally ignored not only my most recent message, but all the previous ones.

Could you please tell me EXACTLY how many snowflakes that is?

I never do the middle path as I’ve heard it’s the most difficult. And I’m posting suggestions for everyone who have issues, not just you. To be fair I never completed Shaman’s Ran without needing a mesmer’s help until this year, ONCE. But that JP is quite annoying with the ravens kicking you off.

As I said it took me most of last year’s Wintersday to get through the JP even 3 times. Besides learning to remain calm and not rushing, you need to remember where best to jump from one snowflake to the next to another, especially the ones that alternate tilt or are significantly different sizes as positioning for the jump becomes important.

As for you @Nightshade, you also have to remember that both the snowflakes and peppermint sticks do vanish as someone uses them and it takes time to regenerate. I’ve NEVER seen the snowflake you are standing one vanish as you are waiting for the stick or next flake to reappear. It may take a second or two for them to appear depending on how recent the players in front of you used them.

Nightshade.5924:

Missy.6803:

I’m not reading all 8 pages; but I read the first 3.
I’m more shocked people are, it seems, offended the Wintersday Jumping Puzzle is needed for a Wintersday achievement/skin. I’ve been playing since GW1 and beta and this was the first year I attempted the puzzle; got it my third try. There are tons of videos and help out there, and it’s not unreasonable to have /3/ successful runs be part of the achievement. I think all of the requirements for Winter’s Presence is very reasonable for casual and hardcore AP hunters except for the drinking. 10k is a pretty obnoxious number. I have a guildie who had over 1k gold. He is broke now to under 100g after buying 2 Wintersday skin and trying to attain all of the drinks as well as the sigils/runes needed. I have no hope of myself ever getting it if he is still farming the puzzle for presents to get drinks and tonics out of.
I do LOVE that the drinks have a consume all button. My future carpal tunnel thanks you hahaha.
I must mirror the concern above my post; can we work on this all year? Obviously the Wintersday ones need to be during Wintersday, like the puzzle and gift yak, but the drinks and the mystic forge items could be all year. . .

Hmm. My impression is that the WD JP is undoable. And that it was 15 completions, not three. But maybe I misread that part. To further understand where I’m coming from, read the most recent page for my posts this year.

Just came from GW2. Was shaking my head when I COULD NOT get into the JP. Apparently it’s full. Myself, I seriously CANNOT understand why ANYONE would do that sadistic cruel breakoff puzzle for FUN. But apparently many people don’t agree with me.

You can talk about walkthoughs, hints etc. That does NOT help me. For instance, If I understand correctly, at some point in the “first part”, there are some candy cane striped “bars” that you have jump across to get to the next series of melty snowflakes of doom.

Now. PLEASE CLEARLY PICTURE THIS. I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN TO THOSE “BARS”
Never. Not once. EVER. I have NEVER seen them IN GAME.

For me, there is NO jumping puzzle that is easy. I’ve posted that Shaman’s Run probably took me ten times the first time. But memory is fallible, especially since that was over three years ago. Let’s go to a MUCH more recent attempt.

I’m going to presume that we’re all familiar w/ the HoT zones. In Auric Basin there is a jumping puzzle that spirals up and up and up the inside of this cavern. There’s a Vista there too. It’s actually pretty neat for a JP.

So I’m going to guess that most, if not all, of you jumpers think that that puzzle is DEAD EASY. Piece of cake, NO CHALLENGE AT ALL. I’m right, aren’t I?

I FELL THREE TIMES IN MORE OR LESS THE SAME PLACE. Now, thanks to my glider, I was able to recover twice and get back, but I fell way further the third time. I WOULD NOT HAVE COMPLETED THAT PUZZLE, IF ONE OF MY GAMING BUDS HAD NOT BEEN THERE. I used the in game teleport and jumped to him. Otherwise, I would have LEFT. I can stand banging my head against a wall only so long.

And here all of you are telling me… “Keep banging your head. You can do it!”

I can’t beat Michael Phelps in a swimming race. I can’t outthink Stephen Hawking. I can’t outcook Gordon Ramsey. I can’t outspend Bill Gates. In short, there’s lots of things that any one of us here IS NOT CAPABLE OF.

I find it mind boggling that none of you seem to be able to grasp that some people JUST CAN’T DO JUMPING PUZZLES. Especially one that is SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO BE VERY DIFFICULT.

Are you na or eu, I could try doing the jp through teamviewer if the lag aint to bad.

Behellagh.1468:

I never do the middle path as I’ve heard it’s the most difficult. And I’m posting suggestions for everyone who have issues, not just you. To be fair I never completed Shaman’s Ran without needing a mesmer’s help until this year, ONCE. But that JP is quite annoying with the ravens kicking you off.

As I said it took me most of last year’s Wintersday to get through the JP even 3 times. Besides learning to remain calm and not rushing, you need to remember where best to jump from one snowflake to the next to another, especially the ones that alternate tilt or are significantly different sizes as positioning for the jump becomes important.

As for you @Nightshade, you also have to remember that both the snowflakes and peppermint sticks do vanish as someone uses them and it takes time to regenerate. I’ve NEVER seen the snowflake you are standing one vanish as you are waiting for the stick or next flake to reappear. It may take a second or two for them to appear depending on how recent the players in front of you used them.

Must be nice. I’m done w/ this nonsense. I got to the ELEVENTH snowflake FOUR times. Two or three times it either blew up or melted beneath me, I’m not sure which. But I ended up back at the start, so I guess it’s immaterial.

The one time I got past that, I actually got to the SEVENTEENTH snowflake. And it disappeared even as I landed. Not sure how I got that far, It was like the snowflakes stopped melting for a few seconds.

I have tried and tried and TRIED this JP this season. I’m upwards of fifty attempts, which is more than twice as much as I have tried it in any preceding season, and SEVENTEEN is now my new number. With at least four more past that.

This puzzle is JUST TOO FAST. I over jump or under jump or I jump at the wrong angle EVERY single TIME I try to “match the pace” that this JP demands. I’m done banging my head.

I renew MY DEMAND THAT THE DEVS EITHER REMOVE THIS REQUIREMENT FROM WP, OR FURNISH US NON-JUMPERS WITH SOME OTHER METHOD TO COMPLETE THE ACHIEVEMENT.

Anything less is a direct slap in the face to those of us WHO CANNOT DO THIS.