Guild Wars 2

It was not until a couple months ago that I decided (with the intro for HOT) to get into the PvE side of the game—I’ve only really ever SPvP and WvW. The draw of the glittering weapon(s) is what my new carrot is. However, after looking at the mats required to craft this beauty (and this is just the 1st tier) makes my head spin.

Fair enough, I’ve prob been playing online MMO’s longer than the average player base age group—been involved in many a different grind per game—but time/gold is limited. Now, I COULD buy gems for cash as I make enough money—but the wife see’s my bank statements and would give me scolding for such silly things.

So my question is….to log all the wood myself (saw some maps online of routes to use)—roughly how long would something like this take in hours/day and to full completion?

Thanks

Answer 1: A lot longer than it would take you to pull out your credit card and pay cash for gems to buy gold with! (Anet answer)

Answer 2: It depends a lot on how you go about doing the routes you’ve selected. If you focus only on wood, it will be a lot shorter in the long run than if you include ore, plants, and the occasional fight with a champ or such. Also, are you running speed boosters? swiftness? etc.

The amount you need to gather is so large, each of these has an effect on the outcome. Also, most wood nodes respawn more than just every 24hours, so.. how much time per day are you putting in? etc.

It’s difficult to answer the do-it-yourself method for these reasons, but someone else may have some experience already with it.

I did a lot of node farming when I was making my ascended weapons. Speed boosts really help, boosters if you have them or skills only if you don’t.

My two preferred professions
Ranger: use two tanky pets to hold agro on nearby mobs while you harvest nodes. Use Warhorn and the utility skill for speed.
Thief: utility skill for speed and heal (stealth) to break agro when needed. Bring any stealth skills to hide while at nodes with mobs nearby. Also the elite skill that gives you two thieves to hold agro if needed. Shortbow for moving fast past a mob.

I would use either of these and make a circuit of several maps. You can get a fair amount if you run the farm consistently.

Just play the game normally and buy the wood with the gold you earn from that. A typical 2 hour play session in HoT maps yields me about 20 Ancient wood, 150 elder wood, and 10-20g in other stuff. You can use that gold to buy hundreds of logs of your choosing every play session.

If you want to go to the maps and farm them yourself then just run around the maps and do map completion. Harvest every node you pass, both wood and ore. Each map you complete gives you a couple gold worth of mats, and you will harvest 50-100 logs per map easily, plus 100+ ore which can be sold for more logs. Each map will take you less than an hour to complete.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

… Each map will take you less than an hour to complete.

I’m sorry I have to interject here.. Less than an hour for a HoT map? Only with a zerg to run with, or at least a good dependable party. Or drugs.

Out of curiosity, how much wood and what kind does that staff need?

I’m going to copy-paste my previous post.

“On my fastest fastest character (perma 33% walk speed, staff/ GS Druid), it took me 45 minutes to gather 200 soft wood.

I need 8000 soft woods for 100 Spirit Woods, that’s like 30 hours.
Then I need 6000 Hard Woods, that’d be 22.5 hours.
Then I need 3000 Season woods, that’s like 11.25 hrs.
Then I need 15000 Elder Woods, that’s like 56.25 hrs.
Total time of logging: 120 hours."

Long term goal involving roaming in low level boring, threatless zones for 100 hours, logging woods 24/7. You’d never get the materials yourself by playing real contents such as HoT maps, raids, fractals, WvW, PvP if you don’t buy them.

There goes the immersion and long-term goal.

Additional Info: Spirit Wood cost 15g~ to buy on TP right now.
You’d need to spend 1500g if you can’t be bother to waste 120 hours on logging.

New legendaries are exactly the same as old legendaries: A toy that are made for “rich casuals”, whether to buy with gold people exploited in market, or gold traded from real money. There’s no skills/immersion involved because you can buy 95% of the material from TP for the new legendaries. It is a tool Anet used to scam people into wasting real life money to buy in-game gold.

If you are in a rush, you are either in for a severe grind or need to spend gold to allow others to grind for you. If you’re not in a rush, you can do a combination of things to progress. The legendaries aren’t meant to be fast, cheap, or simple; they are meant to be long term projects with something of a story and a theme behind them.

Aomine.5012:

I’m going to copy-paste my previous post.

“On my fastest fastest character (perma 33% walk speed, staff/ GS Druid), it took me 45 minutes to gather 200 soft wood.

I need 8000 soft woods for 100 Spirit Woods, that’s like 30 hours.
Then I need 6000 Hard Woods, that’d be 22.5 hours.
Then I need 3000 Season woods, that’s like 11.25 hrs.
Then I need 15000 Elder Woods, that’s like 56.25 hrs.
Total time of logging: 120 hours."

Long term goal involving roaming in low level boring, threatless zones for 100 hours, logging woods 24/7. You’d never get the materials yourself by playing real contents such as HoT maps, raids, fractals, WvW, PvP if you don’t buy them.

Pretty convenient then that all the wood can be gathered in wvw as well, as the maps offer all tiers of nodes.
As a wvw player, he also wouldnt need to neccesarily log all the elder wood as he gets enough blues/greens from kills to salvage.

Wanze.8410:

Aomine.5012:

I’m going to copy-paste my previous post.

“On my fastest fastest character (perma 33% walk speed, staff/ GS Druid), it took me 45 minutes to gather 200 soft wood.

I need 8000 soft woods for 100 Spirit Woods, that’s like 30 hours.
Then I need 6000 Hard Woods, that’d be 22.5 hours.
Then I need 3000 Season woods, that’s like 11.25 hrs.
Then I need 15000 Elder Woods, that’s like 56.25 hrs.
Total time of logging: 120 hours."

Long term goal involving roaming in low level boring, threatless zones for 100 hours, logging woods 24/7. You’d never get the materials yourself by playing real contents such as HoT maps, raids, fractals, WvW, PvP if you don’t buy them.

Pretty convenient then that all the wood can be gathered in wvw as well, as the maps offer all tiers of nodes.
As a wvw player, he also wouldnt need to neccesarily log all the elder wood as he gets enough blues/greens from kills to salvage.

If you do it in WvW, you’d probably spend like 5~10 times more hours due to lack of woods that you can actually gather. Plus you’re not being productive at all in WvW if you just constantly searching for woods.

Btw, you already show a screenshot of buying all the woods on TP yourself. Why bother responding to this? It’s not like you’re going to gather woods yourself since you’re so rich.

Aomine.5012:

Wanze.8410:

Aomine.5012:

I’m going to copy-paste my previous post.

“On my fastest fastest character (perma 33% walk speed, staff/ GS Druid), it took me 45 minutes to gather 200 soft wood.

I need 8000 soft woods for 100 Spirit Woods, that’s like 30 hours.
Then I need 6000 Hard Woods, that’d be 22.5 hours.
Then I need 3000 Season woods, that’s like 11.25 hrs.
Then I need 15000 Elder Woods, that’s like 56.25 hrs.
Total time of logging: 120 hours."

Long term goal involving roaming in low level boring, threatless zones for 100 hours, logging woods 24/7. You’d never get the materials yourself by playing real contents such as HoT maps, raids, fractals, WvW, PvP if you don’t buy them.

Pretty convenient then that all the wood can be gathered in wvw as well, as the maps offer all tiers of nodes.
As a wvw player, he also wouldnt need to neccesarily log all the elder wood as he gets enough blues/greens from kills to salvage.

If you do it in WvW, you’d probably spend like 5~10 times more hours due to lack of woods that you can actually gather. Plus you’re not being productive at all in WvW if you just constantly searching for woods.

Btw, you already show a screenshot of buying all the woods on TP yourself. Why bother responding to this? It’s not like you’re going to gather woods yourself since you’re so rich.

There is a downside to everything. The fastest way to obtain something usually isnt the most fun. Not being in “boring” map seems to be a big issue for you, so you got the choice to make your daily logging more interesting by doing it in a wvw map.

Some other people really enjoy running around in lower level zones or harvesting nodes.

All you are basically complaining about is that your favourite game content isnt the best way to get the loot you want.

Just look at what game content you like offers decent rewards in terms of material drops and play that, then sell it and buy wood.

Problem solved.

Don’t forget that you can only craft 1 Glob of Elder Spirit Residue per day. In the worst case scenario you are looking at 100 days until you have your 100 spiritwood.

If you have the dedication to work on the same goal for 100 days, you’ll easily meet your total logging time.

I made a dozen ascended weapons by mining and cutting wood all by myself. It can be done for a legendary, too, it you do not want to throw 1,500g at the trading post. See it as a long term goal.

RedStar.4218:

Don’t forget that you can only craft 1 Glob of Elder Spirit Residue per day. In the worst case scenario you are looking at 100 days until you have your 100 spiritwood.

If you have the dedication to work on the same goal for 100 days, you’ll easily meet your total logging time.

The raven staff only needs 90 spiritwood planks, btw.

And if you wish to progress faster than that, you can buy additional ones on the tp.

Mouse.7382:

So my question is….to log all the wood myself (saw some maps online of routes to use)—roughly how long would something like this take in hours/day and to full completion?

After a while you’ll know all the spots to gather best – there’s also a website dedicated to farming which might help at the start.

I usually go for metal and wood, and for platinum, hard wood, mithril and elder wood I get roughly the same result after farming Sparkfly Fen and Malchor’s Leap: ~120 each in about 45 mins. (=1,5 hours for both maps)
Softwood is a lot harder to get- after farming one map it’s about 80 soft wood and 80 iron. Same might be true for seasoned, haven’t really stopped the time for that.
You get some/a lot elder wood by salvaging if you do other content though and the mining nodes in wvw objectives are really nice – so farm them if you’re there. If you have multiple ~80 characters, park them in Malchor’s Leap at the statue and use them to farm Elder wood.
In the end it’s hard to tell how long everybody individually needs to gather all the needed mats – and I actually don’t know what the requirements are so I can’t tell how long I would need.

Alright 90 Spiritwood planks would take me ~90 hours and some silver for all the waypoint costs – but I’m a pro node farmer, I guess

ETA: And honestly; I wouldn’t do it to that extend as even I get bored after a while.

Aomine.5012:

I’m going to copy-paste my previous post.

“On my fastest fastest character (perma 33% walk speed, staff/ GS Druid), it took me 45 minutes to gather 200 soft wood.

I need 8000 soft woods for 100 Spirit Woods, that’s like 30 hours.
Then I need 6000 Hard Woods, that’d be 22.5 hours.
Then I need 3000 Season woods, that’s like 11.25 hrs.
Then I need 15000 Elder Woods, that’s like 56.25 hrs.
Total time of logging: 120 hours."

For seasoned wood and hard woods i would say that goes a lot faster, however
it depends on the number of character you have and the current map layout.

But in Dredgehaunt Cliffs i often can get 40 seasoned in 5-6 minutes and in
Timberline falls the same numbers on hard wood. So with 10+ character that
will give 400+ per hour.

Aomine.5012:

The most efficient way of gathering woods is ignoring every possible mobs and events, running in a circle looking for woods. You call that not mindless? Plus lv1~60 maps are a joke that pose no threat at all while running around, so they can easily be ignored.

There’s not even rich woods like rich ores to begin with. Taking 200~300% longer to get woods than getting ores.

Ok then, be it your way. Hope you enjoy that logging.

I kill everything on the way- there was a time where I also did map completion by farming. And I loathe champ trains. But as I said in other posts directed to you – if you chose to not do node farming but other stuff in game you roughly get the same amount of gold the wood/metal is worth. Depends on what you’re doing – I guess those who currently try raids have it worse.

And your “no rich wood nodes” has got a flaw: wood usually is packed at several spots – so they “are basically rich nodes” and they respawn every 30-45 (not sure) minutes – rich nodes don’t, they take 24 hours.

Jana.6831:

Aomine.5012:

The most efficient way of gathering woods is ignoring every possible mobs and events, running in a circle looking for woods. You call that not mindless? Plus lv1~60 maps are a joke that pose no threat at all while running around, so they can easily be ignored.

There’s not even rich woods like rich ores to begin with. Taking 200~300% longer to get woods than getting ores.

Ok then, be it your way. Hope you enjoy that logging.

I kill everything on the way- there was a time where I also did map completion by farming. And I loathe champ trains. But as I said in other posts directed to you – if you chose to not do node farming but other stuff in game you roughly get the same amount of gold the wood/metal is worth. Depends on what you’re doing – I guess those who currently try raids have it worse.

And your “no rich wood nodes” has got a flaw: wood usually is packed at several spots – so they “are basically rich nodes” and they respawn every 30-45 (not sure) minutes – rich nodes don’t, they take 24 hours.

1. Rich ores can be farmed by different characters. 9 alts with full wp unlocked is not a rare thing consider this game has been out for 3 years.

2. Each rich ores usually contain 16~18 ores, and they’re in fixed location.

3. Rich ores cycle takes only 15~20 minutes, netting around 180 ores per character.

4. Frankly, woods take MORE materials per component despite being harder to get.

Logic?

Anyway, I already answered the OP’s question while you guys are being off-topic and arguing for the sake of arguing while not helping OP at all. You can keep on pin-pointing me, doesn’t matter. The female developer who create all these mess must be laughing at us right now while reading all these threads of people suffering because of this messed-up system.

Aomine.5012:

1. Rich ores can be farmed by different characters. 9 alts with full wp unlocked is not a rare thing consider this game has been out for 3 years.

So can a group of wood nodes – you really didn’t get my point, did you?
I have 12 80s – takes me a bit over one hour to get them from Rayhan Bayt to Upsilon Test Facility – so from the “rich elder farming node” to the rich mithril node. At the end I have about 30 each on each character as I gather everything along the way. Mostly I also get 3 ori and 3 elder wood.
But If I’m in real real need of
Elder Wood: I let them stay there and log in once in a while.
Mithril: I farm the whole map with some characters.

Aomine.5012:

2. Each rich ores usually contain 16~18 ores, and they’re in fixed location.

No and No – all but rich iron veins contain 12-14 ores, 14 if your MF is really high. For Iron it would be around 20-25. Edit : A rich mithril node gives 10 – I’ll probably test this further.
Most of them aren’t in fixed locations – I only know of three: the Mithril north of the Upsilon Test Facility and the Iron in the overlook caverns and the Gallowfields, with the rest you may or may not be lucky to find them.

Aomine.5012:

3. Rich ores cycle takes only 15~20 minutes, netting around 180 ores per character.

Don’t know what you mean with that – you still can farm them only once per day with each character.

Aomine.5012:

4. Frankly, woods take MORE materials per component despite being harder to get.

There is some truth behind it but the “harder to get” isn’t quite true.
I did this test for you and stopped the time how much time I needed for the mats for 1 Spiritwood and 1 Deldrimoor.

The time for Deldimoor was shorter because it was a short time span – if I had farmed for longer – I would’ve gotten the same amount of wood and metal.
The other thing is the 4 soft wood logs needed for one plank and also the 3 elder wood needed for one plank.

Aomine.5012:

Anyway, I already answered the OP’s question while you guys are being off-topic and arguing for the sake of arguing while not helping OP at all.

Read my first post on this thread.

ETA: I did some rich vein research:
Iron: 15 and 18 ores
Platinum: 10,10 and 10 ores
Mithril: 10 and 10 ores.

And there are in fact more fix rich nodes then I initially remembered:
One iron in Gendarren Fields, one in Brisbane Wildlands, 3 Platinum in Sparkfly Fen, 1 Mithril in Malchors Leap, one in Southsun Cove – maybe I’ll remember more. But anyway; you can sumble across some more on these maps and those aren’t fix.

quacthulhu.2546:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

… Each map will take you less than an hour to complete.

I’m sorry I have to interject here.. Less than an hour for a HoT map? Only with a zerg to run with, or at least a good dependable party. Or drugs.

I should have specified. I meant map completion on the tyria maps, where the low level logs are. They take 1-2 hours to complete, net a good gold income and have tons of nodes to farm for materials. My last character I did map completion on (pre-HoT) took me 40 hours to complete all the maps (and WvW), and netted me about 100g. I also got 300-500 of every level of ore and wood which could have been sold for more money or converted into more wood.

It also yielded 2 world exploration gifts which if crafted into legendary weapons would yield another ~400g profit (200 each).

Aomine.5012:

Beldin.5498:

Aomine.5012:

Lévis.5489:

I made a dozen ascended weapons by mining and cutting wood all by myself. It can be done for a legendary, too, it you do not want to throw 1,500g at the trading post. See it as a long term goal.

Also you’re not really “playing” the game if you’re just mindlessly roaming in boring low level map logging like bots and Chinese slaves workers. You’re better than this.

Why do some people always think that their playstyle is superior what other do ?
I could also write that it is totally mindless to just follow the herd in other maps
just like a mindless sheep.

The most efficient way of gathering woods is ignoring every possible mobs and events, running in a circle looking for woods. You call that not mindless? Plus lv1~60 maps are a joke that pose no threat at all while running around, so they can easily be ignored.

There’s not even rich woods like rich ores to begin with. Taking 200~300% longer to get woods than getting ores.

Ok then, be it your way. Hope you enjoy that logging.

First i also mostly farm rich iron and platinum veins, that are often gurarded
by veterans, also finding a good route where you get the most ressources in
the shortest time needs maybe still more brain than mindlessly following
just a commander tag.

Also for rich node :
Iron can give 1-2 per swing thats mostly 12-15
gold, silver, platinum give only 1 per swing so thats normally 10
and then there are the 1-3 bonus swings you can always have from WvW bonus.

Beldin.5498:

Aomine.5012:

Beldin.5498:

Aomine.5012:

Lévis.5489:

I made a dozen ascended weapons by mining and cutting wood all by myself. It can be done for a legendary, too, it you do not want to throw 1,500g at the trading post. See it as a long term goal.

Also you’re not really “playing” the game if you’re just mindlessly roaming in boring low level map logging like bots and Chinese slaves workers. You’re better than this.

Why do some people always think that their playstyle is superior what other do ?
I could also write that it is totally mindless to just follow the herd in other maps
just like a mindless sheep.

The most efficient way of gathering woods is ignoring every possible mobs and events, running in a circle looking for woods. You call that not mindless? Plus lv1~60 maps are a joke that pose no threat at all while running around, so they can easily be ignored.

There’s not even rich woods like rich ores to begin with. Taking 200~300% longer to get woods than getting ores.

Ok then, be it your way. Hope you enjoy that logging.

First i also mostly farm rich iron and platinum veins, that are often gurarded
by veterans, also finding a good route where you get the most ressources in
the shortest time needs maybe still more brain than mindlessly following
just a commander tag.

Also for rich node :
Iron can give 1-2 per swing thats mostly 12-15
gold, silver, platinum give only 1 per swing so thats normally 10
and then there are the 1-3 bonus swings you can always have from WvW bonus.

Guarded by vets that can either ignore or easily face-rolled with 1111 and die in 5 seconds.

For Iron ores I’m pretty sure the average is 16.
I collected 70% of iron ores myself for Zap, so pretty sure.