Guild Wars 2

I would prefer, and this is my own preference, to have a World Boss daily over a jumping puzzle daily.

I would prefer to have a choice of anything besides a jumping puzzle.

I have tried them, just not my cup of tea. Some of them were fun the first time or so, but having to repeat them is not something that I would choose.

Thank you for your time.

So don’t do the jumping puzzle daily. Do a different daily achievement instead. There are lots. Problem solved.

drunkenpilot.9837:

So don’t do the jumping puzzle daily. Do a different daily achievement instead. There are lots. Problem solved.

I enjoyed the World Boss daily.

I don’t do the jumping puzzle daily. I do most of the rest, if not all, of the dailys…. on a daily basis.

That’s wonderful. I enjoy the jumping puzzle dailies, myself. As do my guildmates. We were all really excited when JP’s made a return to the daily rotation. Thus far I think I’ve done most of the JP dailies as they’ve popped up, because I like doing them.

I’m sorry to be somewhat rude, but I really don’t see the problem here. Do the things in game that you enjoy. Don’t do the things you don’t. Why do you feel it’s necessary to remove something from the game that others enjoy?

Mahaedros.7085:

I would prefer, and this is my own preference, to have a World Boss daily over a jumping puzzle daily.

drunkenpilot.9837:

So don’t do the jumping puzzle daily. Do a different daily achievement instead. There are lots. Problem solved.

OP was not stating a problem to be solved; they expressed a preference for one type of daily over another.

Opinions are absolutely valid. Again, I’m sorry if my words sounded like an attack—that was not my intention. I’ve just been getting a bit frustrated with the recent hate on the jumping puzzle dailies and I guess I’m afraid that ArenaNet will end up removing them from rotation again, and I would be really disappointed by that.

So this is my /vote for JP dailies to remain (or be expanded on! more more!)

drunkenpilot.9837:

Opinions are absolutely valid. Again, I’m sorry if my words sounded like an attack—that was not my intention. I’ve just been getting a bit frustrated with the recent hate on the jumping puzzle dailies and I guess I’m afraid that ArenaNet will end up removing them from rotation again, and I would be really disappointed by that.

So this is my /vote for JP dailies to remain (or be expanded on! more more!)

SECONDED.

I’d like both jps and world bosses in the dailies. As a compulsive achievement completer, I love the dailies. They’re like little missions you get each day. I’d be happy with more and more dailies of all kinds… except activities. We all have our bugbears.

And, on a side note, it would really help if that list on the right hand side that shows the dailies you’ve selected could show them all by default (optional, of course). I don’t mind giving up screen space to info I find useful.

As a lower level non-HoT player, I have only a list of 4 to choose from. I am not a platform gamer and don’t do well with the jumping puzzles. Since the Activity NPC was broken for the last daily, that left me no option but the jumping puzzle. When I reach the point where I want to throw my monitor out the window, it’s time to stop. Needless to say, I wasn’t able to get the daily done.

Maybe we could have 5 to choose from, in case we cannot accomplish one and the other is bugged. I haven’t been that frustrated in a long time.

I, on the other hand, prefer the Jumping Puzzle dailies to the World Boss dailies. A jumping puzzle can be done at my own time and pace, instead of having to plan my game time around a very specific time window.

At worst, you just missed it and need to wait 2 hours for a world boss. In my case a JP can take much, much longer to finish than 2 hours.

Except you can just get a portal to the end of most jumping puzzles. The only exception that I believe we had so far to that would be yesterday’s since you had to collect all of the orbs.

As someone who is terrible at jumping puzzles, I love that they’re in the rotation now. Why? Because there are usually awesome mesmers around porting people. I’ve gotten several achievements on JPs I would never have gotten otherwise. I also like the mini dungeons that have been added for a similar reason. There are actually people doing them and I can get the achievements.

I would like to see more options for PVE dailies but it is what it is. If the options aren’t to my liking, I’ll often jump into Edge of the Mists and get a couple that way.

Ayrilana.1396:

Except you can just get a portal to the end of most jumping puzzles. The only exception that I believe we had so far to that would be yesterday’s since you had to collect all of the orbs.

Except I consider portals “cheating” if I’ve never completed it on my own first. Call me weird.

I love having the option to complete jumping puzzles as part of the daily. I’m sorry they’re not your cup of tea, but nothing is everyone’s. I’ve found that there are plenty of daily options each day, so you would never have to complete a jumping puzzle. Also keep in mind that you don’t have to get the daily achievement every day. This game is most rewarding when played for fun and not bars anyways.

I like that the dailies sometimes offer a challenge now. Anyone remember when dailies included killing 25 ambient creatures?

Death to tiny bugs!

Behellagh.1468:

At worst, you just missed it and need to wait 2 hours for a world boss. In my case a JP can take much, much longer to finish than 2 hours.

At worst, you miss it and can’t do it as you won’t be online in 2 hours.

I prefer neither of them, and I’ll happy ignore both and only get them if I happen to be in the area, and am able to do them.

I personally don’t enjoy world boss dailies.

When i get online to play, it is exactly the time i can play for that day, and most of the time the boss timer told me that the next daily boss is about couple hours later. Unless i am lucky the boss will about to start in 30 min or less, otherwise i will always not able to do it.

I don’t like doing many of the JP, but i can still take my time if i got no other options.

if you ask me, at least increase player’s choice by 1 more variable daily. we currently have 4 to fill 3 dailies for the reward – yesterday, the other dailies were easy but there was obvious dilemma with activities and jumping puzzle. during the puzzle i heard the activity was bugged!!! in that kind of situation people get annoyed no doubt if jumping puzzle is not their pie.
adding 5th option … what does it hurt?

“I love having the option to complete jumping puzzles as part of the daily. I’m sorry they’re not your cup of tea, but nothing is everyone’s. I’ve found that there are plenty of daily options each day, so you would never have to complete a jumping puzzle. Also keep in mind that you don’t have to get the daily achievement every day. This game is most rewarding when played for fun and not bars anyways.”

plenty of daily options. where? one needs to complete 3 out of 4 and the only choice you will be making is between 2 last dailies.
and like yesterday, activities “option” was bugged, so most motivated people had to jump puzzle.

I hate all dailies and don’t do any personally.

I prefer the world boss daily. JPs often give me motion sickness (especially in caves when I can’t zoom out properly).

Why does it have to be “vs”???
Just give us the choice to choose the content we want to play.
More choice = happier players.

I don’t enjoy jumping puzzles. Platforming activities don’t interest me in the least. I much prefer the world boss dailies to the jp dailies.

However, I realize that other players really like doing the jumping puzzles. With that in mind, I have to second DoctorDing’s call for more pve daily choices. Why not make everyone happy?

Why just not do pvp dailies and daily gatherer? It takes the least time and effort. Sometimes if you have a class win in pvp you can actually do all at once in one game so you’re done with your dailies in about 5 minutes.

And if you don’t like pvp just try playing with your main class you’re most familiar with. There’s progression, rewards and fun in pvp too, and pvp daily rewards are better then daily rewards for a jumping puzzle, plus more fun.

I enjoy jumping puzzles. I’m not very good at them, and it took ages to train my jumping skills to do many of them, but I nevertheless enjoy them. There are many by now that I take a detour through whenever one of my characters is in the area.

World bosses on the other hand are not my cup of tea. With family and fulltime job those timed events just don’t amuse me, so I’ve been skipping most of the world boss dailies unless I accidentally stumbled upon them.

Personally I really enjoy that there’s a mix of days with world boss dailies and days with jp dailies. That said, any daily that’s too far out of the way of whatever game content I’m fancying at that moment I won’t do it. I play this game for the things I enjoy, not to tick off stuff on a shopping list.

I really, really wish we could get 5 options for dailies, because, to me, dailies need to be two things:
1 – Quick to complete, to get people to get them done then go on with enjoying the rest of the day.
2 – Diverse. to get people to try new things
3- Somewhat nontrivial, to get people involved, like daily events, minidungeons, or JPs. Or rewarding in some other way, such as the Harvesters, and Mystic Forge.

My least favorite thing in the rotation has to be Vista Viewer.

Nikal.4921:

As a lower level non-HoT player, I have only a list of 4 to choose from. I am not a platform gamer and don’t do well with the jumping puzzles. Since the Activity NPC was broken for the last daily, that left me no option but the jumping puzzle. When I reach the point where I want to throw my monitor out the window, it’s time to stop. Needless to say, I wasn’t able to get the daily done.

Maybe we could have 5 to choose from, in case we cannot accomplish one and the other is bugged. I haven’t been that frustrated in a long time.

you do realise you have 12 to choose from right?

4 pve
4 pvp
4 wvw

you can generally get 3 pvp ones in under 10 minutes if you goto one of the daily rooms if all you are after is the daily reward & don’t want to learn how to pvp or wvw

everyone saying they only have 4 dailies to choose from is imposing their own limitations on it as everyone has 12 dailies available of which they only have to complete 3, which to me seems like a hell of a lot of choice there…

To state that “world boss” should take the place of “jumping puzzle” in the daily rotation is a valid opinion, but it IS and attack on whoever like doing jumping puzzles.

I don’t understand why people see the existence of the JP daily as a reason to not having a boss daily.

In clearer words: if you want some type of content, ask for it to be added, DON’T ask for other content to be removed.

For me they could add boss daily, fashion daily, dancing daily, dive googles daily, hard-to-find city spot daily, naked daily, wathever. I don’t care. Just please don’t remove JPs from the rotation.

JP daily > World Boss daily. At least with JP daily I can do it right then. For World Boss I may have to wait an hour or more before I can do it.

when i saw scavengers chasm as a daily i thought to myself “welp half the playerbase wont be getting this one lol!”

Nikal.4921:

As a lower level non-HoT player, I have only a list of 4 to choose from. I am not a platform gamer and don’t do well with the jumping puzzles. Since the Activity NPC was broken for the last daily, that left me no option but the jumping puzzle. When I reach the point where I want to throw my monitor out the window, it’s time to stop. Needless to say, I wasn’t able to get the daily done.

Maybe we could have 5 to choose from, in case we cannot accomplish one and the other is bugged. I haven’t been that frustrated in a long time.

There are 12 dailies to choose from. Your decision to not complete your dailies via the very fast PvP or WvW dailies was simply that: your decision. I understand JP’s can be very frustrating sometimes, and they aren’t for everyone, but you have a lot of options here.

Pockethole.5031:

if you ask me, at least increase player’s choice by 1 more variable daily. we currently have 4 to fill 3 dailies for the reward – yesterday, the other dailies were easy but there was obvious dilemma with activities and jumping puzzle. during the puzzle i heard the activity was bugged!!! in that kind of situation people get annoyed no doubt if jumping puzzle is not their pie.
adding 5th option … what does it hurt?

“I love having the option to complete jumping puzzles as part of the daily. I’m sorry they’re not your cup of tea, but nothing is everyone’s. I’ve found that there are plenty of daily options each day, so you would never have to complete a jumping puzzle. Also keep in mind that you don’t have to get the daily achievement every day. This game is most rewarding when played for fun and not bars anyways.”

plenty of daily options. where? one needs to complete 3 out of 4 and the only choice you will be making is between 2 last dailies.
and like yesterday, activities “option” was bugged, so most motivated people had to jump puzzle.

Again, there are 12 daily achievements available to you each and every day. If you aren’t sure where to find them, go to your Achievements panel and click the Daily tab at the top of the list. There are 12, I promise.

They really need to add more dailies and there should always be ones for world bosses, gathering, jumping puzzles and events, as the purpose is to get and spread people out in the world. Additionally, they should all be generic to actually spread people out, either by tier (world bosses), region or level range. HoT should also have its own section. Today for example, I’d rather have a bonus rare from the Fire Elemental, but HoT owners have the Salvage Pit instead. If they’re going to override them, they should at least be equivalent, like gathering and events for example. If there were more however, the problem is that it’ll increase the rewards and not force people to play the specific content, like if they’re wanting to force people into HoT.

DoctorDing.5890:

More choice = happier players.

There you go, Dr’s orders.

drunkenpilot.9837:

So don’t do the jumping puzzle daily. Do a different daily achievement instead. There are lots. Problem solved.

Not enough PvE choice for those the despise PvP and WvW.

drunkenpilot.9837:

That’s wonderful. I enjoy the jumping puzzle dailies, myself. As do my guildmates. We were all really excited when JP’s made a return to the daily rotation. Thus far I think I’ve done most of the JP dailies as they’ve popped up, because I like doing them.

I’m sorry to be somewhat rude, but I really don’t see the problem here. Do the things in game that you enjoy. Don’t do the things you don’t. Why do you feel it’s necessary to remove something from the game that others enjoy?

Didn’t see that the OP wanted anything removed, just added to give more choice in PvE.

Blude.6812:

drunkenpilot.9837:

I’m sorry to be somewhat rude, but I really don’t see the problem here. Do the things in game that you enjoy. Don’t do the things you don’t. Why do you feel it’s necessary to remove something from the game that others enjoy?

Didn’t see that the OP wanted anything removed, just added to give more choice in PvE.

The thread is called World Boss Daily VS Jumping Puzzle Daily.
The title indicates the intent to compare and replace one of them, as it they were mutually exclusive.

Blude.6812:

drunkenpilot.9837:

So don’t do the jumping puzzle daily. Do a different daily achievement instead. There are lots. Problem solved.

Not enough PvE choice for those the despise PvP and WvW.

To have more choices is always good, I think we all agree on that point. That said, to despise things is also a choice, usually a bad one.

DoctorDing.5890:

Why does it have to be “vs”???
Just give us the choice to choose the content we want to play.
More choice = happier players.

It used to be that way. What we have now is something of a better idea, but with less variety, so it’s not really that much better (YMMV). If we could have the variety we used to have, but only needing three of those things to achieve the full daily, it would be nice. Some would complain about things being too easy that way, that it trivialises things – but then, I suppose they’ll be the ones doing all the “hardcore” stuff, so what does it really matter to them if someone else chooses to play their game differently? Everyone comes in from different places with different time schedules, different abilities, different ping – there really shouldn’t be a problem accommodating everyone.

Random Wax Orc.7695:

There should be 4 Central Tyria PvE Dailies, and a new Tab for 4 HoT PvE Dailies… giving 8 PvE dailies total. Central Tyria should include: World Bosses, Jumping Puzzles, Zone Events, Daily Activities, Dungeons, Gathering. HoT Should include Meta Bosses, Zone Events, Daily Adventures, Gathering… and something like Kill X Mushrooms or Mordrem or Chak or Pocket Raptors.

I like this idea!

I’m all for more options for dailies. I do love the idea of HoT-specific dailies as separate from general PvE dailies. Great idea!

Just don’t remove JP’s from daily rotation again! My guildmates and I are having a blast doing them, and showing others tips and tricks and such. The JP dailies really do revitalize content that often gets overlooked. This is a good thing!

Ardid.7203:

Blude.6812:

drunkenpilot.9837:

I’m sorry to be somewhat rude, but I really don’t see the problem here. Do the things in game that you enjoy. Don’t do the things you don’t. Why do you feel it’s necessary to remove something from the game that others enjoy?

Didn’t see that the OP wanted anything removed, just added to give more choice in PvE.

The thread is called World Boss Daily VS Jumping Puzzle Daily.
The title indicates the intent to compare and replace one of them, as it they were mutually exclusive.

Blude.6812:

drunkenpilot.9837:

So don’t do the jumping puzzle daily. Do a different daily achievement instead. There are lots. Problem solved.

Not enough PvE choice for those the despise PvP and WvW.

To have more choices is always good, I think we all agree on that point. That said, to despise things is also a choice, usually a bad one.

I despise drinking drano, that is a good choice.

drunkenpilot.9837:

I’m all for more options for dailies. I do love the idea of HoT-specific dailies as separate from general PvE dailies. Great idea!

Just don’t remove JP’s from daily rotation again! My guildmates and I are having a blast doing them, and showing others tips and tricks and such. The JP dailies really do revitalize content that often gets overlooked. This is a good thing!

Don’t want them to remove the choice of picking a JP. But I did pay for the core game and again for HoT, so I should be able to have access to the core only dailys as well as HoT ones and do them if I choose to.

drunkenpilot.9837:

That’s wonderful. I enjoy the jumping puzzle dailies, myself. As do my guildmates. We were all really excited when JP’s made a return to the daily rotation. Thus far I think I’ve done most of the JP dailies as they’ve popped up, because I like doing them.

I’m sorry to be somewhat rude, but I really don’t see the problem here. Do the things in game that you enjoy. Don’t do the things you don’t. Why do you feel it’s necessary to remove something from the game that others enjoy?

You have to get 3 dailies to get the reward. If you only do PvE, then you either have to do a JP, or the others are chosen for you. They could be even less palatable to the OP. For me, I’m out of luck whenever there’s a HoT item coupled with another HoT item or hard (to me) JP.

They should give us more options. Even if they limit us to 4 rewards daily, but give us 6-10 to choose from, that would be OK.

And, they REALLY need to make HoT items a separate category. HoT proved unplayable to me (and thousands of others), so even having one in the rotation is bad. Make 4 categories: PvE, HoT, PvP, and WvW.

…or just do the PvP dailies in one of those rank farm arenas that Anet bizarrely tolerates.

I used to look forward to the dailies. Now I am not so enthused. I happen to like jumping puzzles. It’s sort of a zen thing for me… except when several dozen players with all kinds of vanity gear, wings, pets and minis are trying to zerg up the puzzle all together. Camera angles can be challenging under normal circumstances on jp’s – it just gets crazy at that point on some of them.

One this week you needed not just to complete the jumping puzzle, but find hidden orbs and unlock chests. Dozens of players just stopped in the middle of the puzzle to go look up the location of the orbs online, making it difficult at times to see where to jump.

I gave up and went to do the daily activity. It was broken. The NPC never responded. They used to work, but since the changes they seem to be a bit broken.

Yes, I miss the world boss dailies. I’d not hate the jp dailies as much if the other options worked. So, I wound up in WvW, only I get dumped in on a seriously mismatched map.

I’m almost exclusively PvE. I’m not geared/specc’d for PvP/WvW. Two thirds of the players were in one faction, and I wound up in one of the others. It was difficult to get that daily without being run down and killed several times by other players who I guess are happy with the changes that gave them a fresh influx of WvW noobs to take out.

So, it would be better if they could fix the broken-ness of the options, allowed the WvW/PvP crowd to get Completionist in their chosen environment, allow the PvE crowd to get it in their chosen environment, and maybe stop torturing us.

JMO, take it as you will.

I loathe boss dailies more. They interrupt my flow of play more then jumping puzzle ever have. Most of the world bosses are brain dead content in my opinion. They are just as bad as the daily login reward system. The only difference is you sit in front of most of those bosses are to go AFK and auto attack them to death. The exception being a few the re-design ones. Which still promote zerg-ish kills, without strategy. Furthermore Triple Trouble is just scaled to higher play populations to make it seem like it’s difficult when it’s really not. The only world boss that seem like it was intelligently designed in core Tyria is now gone. Of course I am talking about the Twisted Marionette fight. But hey, everyone has their opinion right?

EDIT: In all honesty I rather have them open a fifth slot for the daily (one new one per each category). Since the old world boss rotation was lame anyways. Due to how many times we had to kill the Frostmaw in one month at times. Which was the pinnacle of what I mean by brain dead content. I would rather be hit by a truck then have to deal with that nonsense again.

Why not having both boss and JP dailies, everyone wins.

Unless the daily UI technically cannot fit in too many dailies,

Why not more PvE options like that Daddicus said. I don’t do WvW or PvP. So the 4 options for PvE is lacking. (Happy for all the people who do the PvP, JPs, WvW. Glad you enjoy them and can DO them. I can’t and don’t, so don’t tell me to do them. )

Since the change, the number of PvE dailies that I can actually do has dropped significantly. The number of choices is 4….you have to do 3 of those. So basically no real options in PvE. ( Again…don’t tell me to do PvP or WvW. I don’t consider them a valid alternative to PvE. )

More PvE options are needed, not trying to push non PvP players into those areas or adding JPs that are near impossible to do.

I strongly suspect that the considerable majority of players are in PvE most, if not all of the time.
What I don’t understand is why are there PvE dailies if the intent is to motivate players to try content they haven’t tried?

Along with that goes the question: "if they try the suggested non PvE dailies enough times to confidently say they simply enjoy PvE more, how do you respond to those supposed majority of players that love the concept of the dailies and how it leads them into the game, and want reward for what they are doing?

I realize this goes beyond the JP/WB discussion but aren’t these the questions Anet should be discussing?