Guild Wars 2

This is sort of a repost I made on reddit but:

Currently it feels like if you want to quest for karma or loot then you should be spending your time in Cursed Shore, Straits of Devastation, or WvW. Lower zones drop only level equivalent loot part of the time and give lesser rewards when completing events.

This is sad because it feels like there is a whole world to play but once you hit 80 it’s only efficient to play some of them. I personally am kinda of tired of killing risen over and over again if I want to farm events the most efficient way. (Besides WvW)

I actually had a lot of fun in the lower areas like Queensdale and Plains of Ashford and would love to be able to hang out and do events in those zones without feeling like I’m limiting myself. So I ask.. why not give the same loot and rewards for doing events in all zones? And would anyone else like to see them change this?

So your fun depends on how efficient you are?

What I think is funny that you would limit yourself by going to lower areas.

You are in fact limiting yourself by not going there. You still get good rewards for low level events, just not as much since it’s 10 times easier. You do get drops for your level, especially from chests. Just not as much.

So, you have the choice to exchange some loot for variation in the game. You don’t limit yourself when you have less loot and karma. You limit yourself when you think that you can only have fun when you make the max loot and karma.

The game doesn’t need you to grind yourself silly, unless you want to get a legenday weapon but how big of a deal is it, if you get it in 3 weeks or 4? Especially when 3 weeks means boring grind and 4 weeks means variation and more fun, less annoying risen.

Really there is a choice and you are the one limiting yourself, not the game.

The amount of reduction in money and karma when playing in a lower level zone is pretty minimal.

For the time and effort it takes to do events in Orr, I would much rather head to the other lower level areas (where maybe I didn’t feel I experienced all the various DE’s) and do those DE’s. It’s like a 10-20c difference (I haven’t checked karma.) But the events are way easier too. I can solo a FEW of the events in Orr, but I can solo almost all the events in the low level zones, with some of the Large world scale events being not quite so soloable. But in low level zones even some of those are soloable… for me that’s a good trade off. This means I get all the mob exp, I almost always get gold, and I mean come on, how awesome is it to know that I single-handedly kept the flame legion from taking over?!

Remember this game isn’t meant to be ground, it’s meant to be PLAYED. Have fun with it and you will find that even though it may take you a bit longer to get the things you wanted, you don’t feel like you wasted weeks of your life grinding mindlessly, but rather that you enjoyed it. Suddenly that legendary goes from being something you had to put up with hours of boredom to get, to something you earned by keeping Tyria safe from all it’s threats.

I’m sorry, but to me, the second option sound like a much better accomplishment.

I read your points and I still say this. If they balanced the scale downs more. Why not? I don’t want this to turn into the whole fun/grind thread of the day. But some people enjoy farming events and such. Why not make it efficient to farm where you want?

zaxziakohl.5243:

The amount of reduction in money and karma when playing in a lower level zone is pretty minimal.

For the time and effort it takes to do events in Orr, I would much rather head to the other lower level areas (where maybe I didn’t feel I experienced all the various DE’s) and do those DE’s. It’s like a 10-20c difference (I haven’t checked karma.) But the events are way easier too. I can solo a FEW of the events in Orr, but I can solo almost all the events in the low level zones, with some of the Large world scale events being not quite so soloable. But in low level zones even some of those are soloable… for me that’s a good trade off. This means I get all the mob exp, I almost always get gold, and I mean come on, how awesome is it to know that I single-handedly kept the flame legion from taking over?!

Remember this game isn’t meant to be ground, it’s meant to be PLAYED. Have fun with it and you will find that even though it may take you a bit longer to get the things you wanted, you don’t feel like you wasted weeks of your life grinding mindlessly, but rather that you enjoyed it. Suddenly that legendary goes from being something you had to put up with hours of boredom to get, to something you earned by keeping Tyria safe from all it’s threats.

I’m sorry, but to me, the second option sound like a much better accomplishment.

When you go to low level zones, Lousy rewards and a lack of progresion reduces the fun for a vast number of MMo players. Sorry if this is new news to you. You shouldn’t get equal karma when everything is easier, but don’t expect most players to bother going back with max lvl toons. Ndont call it content, because it really isn’t.

In reality it is effeicient to farm where you want.

Event in Orr has difficulty of 8 thus takes 10 minutes.
Event in Ashford has difficulty of 2 thus takes 4 minutes.
That gives you 2 minutes to find another event and complete it in Ashford. All of the sudden you are earning more per time spent.

I think in the mid-range options maybe some scaling up would be nice. Simply because they aren’t near as easy, and the area is no longer nearly as populated, making them even more difficult.

Honestly if you just want the farm stuff, find area with some events close together. Difficult events, with no one around. Go spend a couple minutes whacking at each event, then let if fail. You get gold for the failure too. Some of the failures even repeat until succession. I don’t condone this cuz it’s a crappy way to get your stuff, but if all your doing is farming, there is no reason not to.

It is not effecient to farm where you want. If you’ve been around Cursed shore for awhile you know the events.. theres generally 15 ppl doing the most effecient ones all at once. You can make 5g+ a day farming for a few hours by all the equal level loot and rares can you sell off.

Now this is for a server with good population. If your on a lower pop server where there’s almost nobody in Cursed shore, etc. Then yes it might be equal across the board. However on my server I have no problem finding large groups of people farming the same few events.

Josher.9612:

zaxziakohl.5243:

The amount of reduction in money and karma when playing in a lower level zone is pretty minimal.

For the time and effort it takes to do events in Orr, I would much rather head to the other lower level areas (where maybe I didn’t feel I experienced all the various DE’s) and do those DE’s. It’s like a 10-20c difference (I haven’t checked karma.) But the events are way easier too. I can solo a FEW of the events in Orr, but I can solo almost all the events in the low level zones, with some of the Large world scale events being not quite so soloable. But in low level zones even some of those are soloable… for me that’s a good trade off. This means I get all the mob exp, I almost always get gold, and I mean come on, how awesome is it to know that I single-handedly kept the flame legion from taking over?!

Remember this game isn’t meant to be ground, it’s meant to be PLAYED. Have fun with it and you will find that even though it may take you a bit longer to get the things you wanted, you don’t feel like you wasted weeks of your life grinding mindlessly, but rather that you enjoyed it. Suddenly that legendary goes from being something you had to put up with hours of boredom to get, to something you earned by keeping Tyria safe from all it’s threats.

I’m sorry, but to me, the second option sound like a much better accomplishment.

When you go to low level zones, Lousy rewards and a lack of progresion reduces the fun for a vast number of MMo players. Sorry if this is new news to you. You shouldn’t get equal karma when everything is easier, but don’t expect most players to bother going back with max lvl toons. Ndont call it content, because it really isn’t.

I am a max level toon. I have been for several weeks. It’s still content. If others fail to see it as content, that’s not my problem, it’s theirs.

I however, do not really see the content portion of Orr. The only events I see (and I’m there for hours) are repeats of prior events, and progression through the area, which ultimately gets halted, and was pointless to begin with. Many of which I have to attempt solo because of how few people are there. But I could be prejudice. I don’t like Orr, it’s dark, it’s danky, the mobs are too close together, and it sucks. I’ve never liked zombies, why would I start now?

There are MANY very interesting events in low level maps, with chains and story behind them. There is one in a charr zone(can’t remember, maybe Fireheart Rise) where the goal is to free the grawl camps from rule of the flame legion, harpies, and I think fire elementals. Doing it solo means I get gold on each camp, then when they are retaken because I was too slow, I get gold AGAIN for each camp. (up to 6 gold now in about 10 minutes) Then I get to do a caravan to the statue to make one camp bow down in awe of our power. (I even get to say things at them through said statue, which is pretty cool)

That’s just one event chain, in one, mid-level zone. There are similar event chains in lower level zones if you take the time to stop and look.

zaxziakohl.5243:

Josher.9612:

zaxziakohl.5243:

The amount of reduction in money and karma when playing in a lower level zone is pretty minimal.

For the time and effort it takes to do events in Orr, I would much rather head to the other lower level areas (where maybe I didn’t feel I experienced all the various DE’s) and do those DE’s. It’s like a 10-20c difference (I haven’t checked karma.) But the events are way easier too. I can solo a FEW of the events in Orr, but I can solo almost all the events in the low level zones, with some of the Large world scale events being not quite so soloable. But in low level zones even some of those are soloable… for me that’s a good trade off. This means I get all the mob exp, I almost always get gold, and I mean come on, how awesome is it to know that I single-handedly kept the flame legion from taking over?!

Remember this game isn’t meant to be ground, it’s meant to be PLAYED. Have fun with it and you will find that even though it may take you a bit longer to get the things you wanted, you don’t feel like you wasted weeks of your life grinding mindlessly, but rather that you enjoyed it. Suddenly that legendary goes from being something you had to put up with hours of boredom to get, to something you earned by keeping Tyria safe from all it’s threats.

I’m sorry, but to me, the second option sound like a much better accomplishment.

When you go to low level zones, Lousy rewards and a lack of progresion reduces the fun for a vast number of MMo players. Sorry if this is new news to you. You shouldn’t get equal karma when everything is easier, but don’t expect most players to bother going back with max lvl toons. Ndont call it content, because it really isn’t.

I am a max level toon. I have been for several weeks. It’s still content. If others fail to see it as content, that’s not my problem, it’s theirs.

I however, do not really see the content portion of Orr. The only events I see (and I’m there for hours) are repeats of prior events, and progression through the area, which ultimately gets halted, and was pointless to begin with. Many of which I have to attempt solo because of how few people are there. But I could be prejudice. I don’t like Orr, it’s dark, it’s danky, the mobs are too close together, and it sucks. I’ve never liked zombies, why would I start now?

There are MANY very interesting events in low level maps, with chains and story behind them. There is one in a charr zone(can’t remember, maybe Fireheart Rise) where the goal is to free the grawl camps from rule of the flame legion, harpies, and I think fire elementals. Doing it solo means I get gold on each camp, then when they are retaken because I was too slow, I get gold AGAIN for each camp. (up to 6 gold now in about 10 minutes) Then I get to do a caravan to the statue to make one camp bow down in awe of our power. (I even get to say things at them through said statue, which is pretty cool)

That’s just one event chain, in one, mid-level zone. There are similar event chains in lower level zones if you take the time to stop and look.

How much gold do you make farming these events though? How many lvl 80 rares do you see drop? Sure on your server 6 golds may seem like a lot but it’s roughly equal to that on higher pop servers in Cursed Shore. As I said earlier theres generally 15 ppl+ running the same events at almost all times during the day. So finding ppl isn’t a factor on higher pop servers.

Plus these events give better reward and you find better loot doing them.

Well yesterday between selling what I got as drops or what I salvaged from drops, and the events themselves I went from 3.5g to 11g. I spent about 8-9 hours actually doing things yesterday because I wanted money for the Halloween event and I recently spent it all by buying exotics.

The loot was kinda crappy, I’ll give you that. But if you participate in anything that would reward a chest, you generally still get decent loot for your level (or at least I do)

I will go to Orr to farm occasionally, because imo the farming nodes of trees and ore in Orr is the best source of income by far. Not the events. For Karma I would just as soon use lower level areas. Keep in mind that many high level mats other than node mats aren’t selling for much. I can earn more cash selling mid-level crafting mats than high level ones with the exception of gossamer, orichalum, and ancient wood. Mithril I can find in mid-level zones and other ores such as iron, copper, and platnium sell for a decent amount, while being more abundant. The lower level to midlevel venoms, totems, blood and claws also sell for substantially more than high level ones as well. Seasoned wood, mid-level also sells for quite a bit.

Cash wise, if I farm Orr once in a general cover all, then go to a mid-level zone for events and farming, I earn way more than if I stay in Orr. The white level 80 drops from the low level zones also occassionally give me Ori, Gossamer, and Ancient Wood as well.