Guild Wars 2

I was hoping I was wrong when I read that they’d release only 3 pieces of armor but then I saw the pictures……….

Not only did they release only 3 pieces of armor it’s also a reskin of the ascended armor that got released not so long ago. Couple that with the fact you can’t fully dye it and it’s an rng armor makes me, someone who got this game for cosmetic stuff and the number 1 thing for me being armor, very sad.

This set tells me that the armor designers have fallen so low or have so little time they actually can’t even fully RESKIN something. Not that I wanted them to make a reskin (hell no) and especially a reskin of something that has existed for a short time but that they couldn’t even fully reskin something seems so pathetic to me that it makes me very sad.

For those that want to see it, here is a link;
http://dulfy.net/2014/01/23/gw2-wurmslayer-ascended-armor-gallery/

At least its not in the gemstore!

Magnus Steelgrave.6580:

At least its not in the gemstore!

You making me realize that made me happy, I think I’m going to have this smile on my face for a while.

Yea I was disappointed too. The weapon and armor designer of the game are terrible, REALLY TERRIBLE. They are unable to create cool weapons or armor sets, just once every 10 pieces is a “ok” one and 1 of 100 is a WOW one.

They should fire them all and ask random gamers about weapons >_> It’s terrible to see all those “reskins” wich are probably made within an afternoon …

Ok, I have a theory here, and I hope I’m right.
I think most would agree that we haven’t been exactly getting a ton of new armor peices, and a lot of models seem to be reused for newer updates. I find it quite unlikely that Anet’s artists just got lazy, or that many of them were secretly fired. They are probably just working on something else. If that something else is an expansion, then it would explain this situation nicely. If the expansion is what we usually get from MMO’s, then we can expect a bunch of new zones with art different from the ones we have now, new enemy models, a bunch of new armor models from leveling, new dungeons and such, and possible a new race. If that’s what they are working on, they guess who gets to do most work for an expansion like that? Artists, of course. If all their artists are working on things that are kept under wraps for now, and only one or two are either assigned to add things for current releases, or pause their work to do a quick reskin, that would explain what’s going on.

Magnus Steelgrave.6580:

At least its not in the gemstore!

And it also doesn’t have fire as an effect. We all know much they love to use fire as an effect.
Aaaah, the little things that shouldn’t actually make you happy but it does because they do a pathetic job.

I’d say making them exactly match the current ascended armor apart from the additional effect makes perfect sense. Just like those achievement gloves and mantles and toxic gloves and mantles, but instead of being mix’n’match, they just match straight away.

(That doesn’t however mean that I like the current design of ascended armor – I transmute each new piece to sylvari cultural mix as soon as I craft them, and even for a human twink I’ll go for something different.)

Alcorra.8169:

Ok, I have a theory here, and I hope I’m right.
I think most would agree that we haven’t been exactly getting a ton of new armor peices, and a lot of models seem to be reused for newer updates. I find it quite unlikely that Anet’s artists just got lazy, or that many of them were secretly fired. They are probably just working on something else. If that something else is an expansion, then it would explain this situation nicely. If the expansion is what we usually get from MMO’s, then we can expect a bunch of new zones with art different from the ones we have now, new enemy models, a bunch of new armor models from leveling, new dungeons and such, and possible a new race. If that’s what they are working on, they guess who gets to do most work for an expansion like that? Artists, of course. If all their artists are working on things that are kept under wraps for now, and only one or two are either assigned to add things for current releases, or pause their work to do a quick reskin, that would explain what’s going on.

That or they are working on wildstar :/

It would look better if they lowered the shoulder armor pieces down instead of making them look like they’re floating terribly high on charr.

The serious armor clipping and floating issues are driving me nuts… but I love my charrs. :/

Looking at any MMO that exists out there, 90% of all equipment pieces in any game, are reskins of other pieces that exist in the game already. It doesn’t matter if it is WoW, Everquest, Lord of the Rings Online, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Secret World, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars, or Wildstar. Hell, even many of Eve Online’s ships are reskinned versions of each other. You guys (players. not Anet) need to do a reality check when it comes to MMO’s before you go off complaining about reskinned items every single time you see one.

Me? I think the armor looks pretty good with the Globs of Poison forming up then dropping off of the gloves. There’s not enough poison related stuff in this game. We could also use more Crystal, Water, and Ice themed equipment, but, I’ll wait. Take your time Anet.

Chrispy.5641:

Looking at any MMO that exists out there, 90% of all equipment pieces in any game, are reskins of other pieces that exist in the game already. It doesn’t matter if it is WoW, Everquest, Lord of the Rings Online, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Secret World, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars, or Wildstar. Hell, even many of Eve Online’s ships are reskinned versions of each other. You guys (players. not Anet) need to do a reality check when it comes to MMO’s before you go off complaining about reskinned items every single time you see one.

Me? I think the armor looks pretty good with the Globs of Poison forming up then dropping off of the gloves. There’s not enough poison related stuff in this game. We could also use more Crystal, Water, and Ice themed equipment, but, I’ll wait. Take your time Anet.

So because other MMO’s use a lot of reskins I should accept reskins. I got this game because Anet, players and youtubers made it sound like skins would play an important role in this game unlike other MMO’s. Yet it took them 15 months to release a new full armor set that’s not related to the gem store. And instead of releasing a new armor skin they make a reskin of a armor that has been released for only 1.5 months.
I’d say that’s pretty weird for a game where cosmetic stuff plays an important role.

I’m aware that other MMO’s use reskins a lot but I bought this MMO cuz they (Anet, players and youtubers) made it sound that it would play an important role like for example dungeons, that it wouldn’t be something like other MMO’s and not only MMO’s but other games as well but instead they aren’t doing anything different. I don’t get angry or sad when I see another reskin in a MMO like FFXIV cuz the developers, players and youtubers never made it sound like cosmetic stuff would be something to aim for, I don’t get angry or sad when I see another reskin in a game like Monster Hunter cuz the developers, players and youtubers never made it sound like cosmetic stuff would be something to aim for but in GW2 they did and that’s why I bought Guild Wars 2.

The only reality check I needed, and I was ashamed when I realized this, is that what developers, players and youtubers say doesn’t have to be true. However that and your reason is not a reason for me to accept what I see as flaws in this “Cosmetic MMO”.

The heavy Gauntlet are nice and the Medium Helmet look really nice on Charr (only). But the rest of the armor are really bad. Sure if you take Ascended armor model and you put some effect of it your base model is still bad.

I think they should bring in the contests like they did in GW1. The had design a weapon contests, and the results were phenomenal. The community got involved and even got their content put into the game! We could easily do the same with armor and weapons in GW2.

So new, so edgy, so unique.

I don’t know why people hate armor in the gems store so much. It’s the exact same acquisition method as cultural armor; save up a bunch of gold and buy it from a vendor.

Of course, it would be fun if there were a long quest chain or some personal trials / challenges to unlock new prestige armors, but I’ll take purchasable with gold over a tiny, tiny RNG chance from a boss you can only attempt every 2 hours any day.

I like your idea of a long quest chain and personal trials. Armor that shows you achieved something great or difficult would be awesome to have in the game. Some would argue that dungeon armor does this, but at the end of the day, I see it as armor you had to grind a dungeon X amount of times to get. Armor rewards for individual tasks and trials sounds like a better way to go.

CaboSoul.1204:

Chrispy.5641:

Looking at any MMO that exists out there, 90% of all equipment pieces in any game, are reskins of other pieces that exist in the game already. It doesn’t matter if it is WoW, Everquest, Lord of the Rings Online, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Secret World, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars, or Wildstar. Hell, even many of Eve Online’s ships are reskinned versions of each other. You guys (players. not Anet) need to do a reality check when it comes to MMO’s before you go off complaining about reskinned items every single time you see one.

Me? I think the armor looks pretty good with the Globs of Poison forming up then dropping off of the gloves. There’s not enough poison related stuff in this game. We could also use more Crystal, Water, and Ice themed equipment, but, I’ll wait. Take your time Anet.

So because other MMO’s use a lot of reskins I should accept reskins. I got this game because Anet, players and youtubers made it sound like skins would play an important role in this game unlike other MMO’s. Yet it took them 15 months to release a new full armor set that’s not related to the gem store. And instead of releasing a new armor skin they make a reskin of a armor that has been released for only 1.5 months.
I’d say that’s pretty weird for a game where cosmetic stuff plays an important role.

I’m aware that other MMO’s use reskins a lot but I bought this MMO cuz they (Anet, players and youtubers) made it sound that it would play an important role like for example dungeons, that it wouldn’t be something like other MMO’s and not only MMO’s but other games as well but instead they aren’t doing anything different. I don’t get angry or sad when I see another reskin in a MMO like FFXIV cuz the developers, players and youtubers never made it sound like cosmetic stuff would be something to aim for, I don’t get angry or sad when I see another reskin in a game like Monster Hunter cuz the developers, players and youtubers never made it sound like cosmetic stuff would be something to aim for but in GW2 they did and that’s why I bought Guild Wars 2.

The only reality check I needed, and I was ashamed when I realized this, is that what developers, players and youtubers say doesn’t have to be true. However that and your reason is not a reason for me to accept what I see as flaws in this “Cosmetic MMO”.

Yeah, because giant globs of poison spit rolling off the armor doesn’t make it unique enough because it uses the same mesh as a previous item. And Cobalt, one of the most common greatswords you see players use, isn’t that awesome looking either because its a reskin too,……with blue fire! By your logic, everyone should be abhoring that weapon and refusing to equip it. But, they don’t which makes your entire argument invalid.

hey man don’t hate

this is groundbreaking

the first armor pieces that show us clouds of body odor wafting off of our unbathed heroes

BondageBill.4021:

I don’t know why people hate armor in the gems store so much. It’s the exact same acquisition method as cultural armor; save up a bunch of gold and buy it from a vendor.

Of course, it would be fun if there were a long quest chain or some personal trials / challenges to unlock new prestige armors, but I’ll take purchasable with gold over a tiny, tiny RNG chance from a boss you can only attempt every 2 hours any day.

I hate it because they only released new armor skins in the gem store instead of ALSO outside of the gem store. To me it makes it look like they only care about making money with it if they don’t release it as well outside the gem store and when they release something outside the gem store it should be obtainable through karma or something like a token system making it accountbound a not sellable in the trading post. To many things in this game can obtained through gold and real money. If you don’t want to work for armor in game buy a gem store armor, if you want an in-game armor get karma or tokens.

For example what they could have done with the jungle wurm is release a new full set that’s only obtainable with tokens like FFXIV does. If you get coppper you get 10 tokens, silver 20 tokens and gold 30 tokens. and if the event fails you instead get 5 tokens for copper, 10 tokens for silver and 15 tokens for gold or something like that. Not only would it not make the armor rng it would make some if not a lot of people go to the event and do it seeing as how there’s a guaranteed way of getting it. And as extras you could also use those tokens to get the the items neccesary for the new legendary weapons that will be coming

aspirine.6852:

That or they are working on wildstar :/

AoE fields of bosses on platforms… Did you notice that…

http://www.mmo-game.eu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2012/09/ws_combat_telegraphs.jpg

http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/667x375/2012/09/Wildstar_TelegraphSystem.jpg

Chrispy.5641:

CaboSoul.1204:

Chrispy.5641:

Looking at any MMO that exists out there, 90% of all equipment pieces in any game, are reskins of other pieces that exist in the game already. It doesn’t matter if it is WoW, Everquest, Lord of the Rings Online, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Secret World, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars, or Wildstar. Hell, even many of Eve Online’s ships are reskinned versions of each other. You guys (players. not Anet) need to do a reality check when it comes to MMO’s before you go off complaining about reskinned items every single time you see one.

Me? I think the armor looks pretty good with the Globs of Poison forming up then dropping off of the gloves. There’s not enough poison related stuff in this game. We could also use more Crystal, Water, and Ice themed equipment, but, I’ll wait. Take your time Anet.

So because other MMO’s use a lot of reskins I should accept reskins. I got this game because Anet, players and youtubers made it sound like skins would play an important role in this game unlike other MMO’s. Yet it took them 15 months to release a new full armor set that’s not related to the gem store. And instead of releasing a new armor skin they make a reskin of a armor that has been released for only 1.5 months.
I’d say that’s pretty weird for a game where cosmetic stuff plays an important role.

I’m aware that other MMO’s use reskins a lot but I bought this MMO cuz they (Anet, players and youtubers) made it sound that it would play an important role like for example dungeons, that it wouldn’t be something like other MMO’s and not only MMO’s but other games as well but instead they aren’t doing anything different. I don’t get angry or sad when I see another reskin in a MMO like FFXIV cuz the developers, players and youtubers never made it sound like cosmetic stuff would be something to aim for, I don’t get angry or sad when I see another reskin in a game like Monster Hunter cuz the developers, players and youtubers never made it sound like cosmetic stuff would be something to aim for but in GW2 they did and that’s why I bought Guild Wars 2.

The only reality check I needed, and I was ashamed when I realized this, is that what developers, players and youtubers say doesn’t have to be true. However that and your reason is not a reason for me to accept what I see as flaws in this “Cosmetic MMO”.

Yeah, because giant globs of poison spit rolling off the armor doesn’t make it unique enough because it uses the same mesh as a previous item. And Cobalt, one of the most common greatswords you see players use, isn’t that awesome looking either because its a reskin too,……with blue fire! By your logic, everyone should be abhoring that weapon and refusing to equip it. But, they don’t which makes your entire argument invalid.

I’m sorry if I made it sound like people should be abhoring or refusing to equip something that was not my intention but to —->ME<—- giant globs of poison spit rolling off the armor doesn’t make it unique enough in a game where cosmetic is important and Cobalt does indeed not look awesome to me cuz it’s lack of color compared to it’s predecessor and slapping some blue fire on it.

My favourite armor of all games is a reskin of a other existing armor. Do —->I<—- mind? Nope. Because I got that game to beat the crap out of giant monsters even though that game is about 60% reskins. Would I mind that 60% (and not know about it) if the game was about cosmetics and thus became my reason to purchase it? Hell yeah!!!!

I don’t find the current ascended armor bad, it may not be the most appealing armor in game to some players but the amount of detail placed in it is astonishing.

In fact light ascended armor on a human female ele (with trickster shoulders and Named Light armor Head-blindfold) looks pretty good in my opinion ?

I’ll agree that not all pieces of the ascended armor are great, but I’m someone that enjoys mix and matching armor, the certain pieces of the ascended armor definitely fit in great.

Oh wow, this is hideous! Just another reason not to bother with bugged events and overflows

CaboSoul.1204:

Chrispy.5641:

Looking at any MMO that exists out there, 90% of all equipment pieces in any game, are reskins of other pieces that exist in the game already. It doesn’t matter if it is WoW, Everquest, Lord of the Rings Online, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Secret World, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars, or Wildstar. Hell, even many of Eve Online’s ships are reskinned versions of each other. You guys (players. not Anet) need to do a reality check when it comes to MMO’s before you go off complaining about reskinned items every single time you see one.

Me? I think the armor looks pretty good with the Globs of Poison forming up then dropping off of the gloves. There’s not enough poison related stuff in this game. We could also use more Crystal, Water, and Ice themed equipment, but, I’ll wait. Take your time Anet.

So because other MMO’s use a lot of reskins I should accept reskins. I got this game because Anet, players and youtubers made it sound like skins would play an important role in this game unlike other MMO’s. Yet it took them 15 months to release a new full armor set that’s not related to the gem store. And instead of releasing a new armor skin they make a reskin of a armor that has been released for only 1.5 months.
I’d say that’s pretty weird for a game where cosmetic stuff plays an important role.

I’m aware that other MMO’s use reskins a lot but I bought this MMO cuz they (Anet, players and youtubers) made it sound that it would play an important role like for example dungeons, that it wouldn’t be something like other MMO’s and not only MMO’s but other games as well but instead they aren’t doing anything different. I don’t get angry or sad when I see another reskin in a MMO like FFXIV cuz the developers, players and youtubers never made it sound like cosmetic stuff would be something to aim for, I don’t get angry or sad when I see another reskin in a game like Monster Hunter cuz the developers, players and youtubers never made it sound like cosmetic stuff would be something to aim for but in GW2 they did and that’s why I bought Guild Wars 2.

The only reality check I needed, and I was ashamed when I realized this, is that what developers, players and youtubers say doesn’t have to be true. However that and your reason is not a reason for me to accept what I see as flaws in this “Cosmetic MMO”.

This!! This game has beautiful art – they could make numerous beautiful armour sets – I just don’t understand why this isn’t happening. If they put 50% of them on the gem store they would make a mint.

Embarassing to only see three pieces for each set. Would like to see a whole set with this theme. Hopefully they will add the other pieces later on as rewards.

Edit: Why no picture of Sylvari and the armor? Racist?

Looks terrible and not even a full set. 0 of 10 points, anet, for not even trying

About that with the telegraphing of attacks was one of my ideas i suggested here once in the suggestion sub forum, when it still existed, because its a clear improvement over the normal AoE Rings, far better to see, where you shouldn’t stand for too long and how the skilsl of the enemies will exactly work as a kind of AoE, because not every AoE works like the same, you have different kinds of AoEs from Ring Types, Line Types, Cone Types and so on and it was exactly Wildstar, where when I saw this, where I just directly thought at the moment when I saw it..

Why the hell hasn’t GW2 this too? and I’m very happy to see the mechanic now in the game and I really hope, the rest of the game’s monsters and their skilsl will also get updated with these new telegraphics and then simply give players among the option menu the point to decide over, which kind of telegraphics you want to have.

Old version, or new version.

@ Orepheal

Whatever option they choose, opacity option should be a must. They’ve made quite a mess with particle light.

Sorry for off topic talking here.

aspirine.6852:

That or they are working on wildstar :/

Nope.
Luckily, Wildstar armors looks quite cool, have a good variety and doesn’t clip.
No way it’s the same people working on them.

Magnus Steelgrave.6580:

At least its not in the gemstore!

Shhhh don’t give them any ideas ;-P

Yeah I agree, I’m also disappointed that it’s not only RNG, but it’s only 3 pieces – why bother? That’s like giving someone half a cake and saying ‘sorry, I ate the rest of it on the way here and there’s no way I can make another one’.

I’m not really a fan of the look of ascended armor anyway, so it doesn’t REALLY bother me that much, but it still bothers me in the sense that the way it’s been implemented has been done so poorly in my opinion.

+1 for Magnus Steelgrave

and yea the armors look awful.

The main reason vertical progression arose in this game is because horizontal progression failed hard due to terrible armour skins.

Wurmslayer armors does looks pretty bad….. waiting for Legendaries armors.

Xyonon.3987:

Yea I was disappointed too. The weapon and armor designer of the game are terrible, REALLY TERRIBLE. They are unable to create cool weapons or armor sets, just once every 10 pieces is a “ok” one and 1 of 100 is a WOW one.

They should fire them all and ask random gamers about weapons >_> It’s terrible to see all those “reskins” wich are probably made within an afternoon …

Woah watch it there buddy, you start talking about the lack of creativity on the art team, their liable to come in here and give you an infraction over it. lol

and dulfy is down

Xyonon.3987:

Yea I was disappointed too. The weapon and armor designer of the game are terrible, REALLY TERRIBLE. They are unable to create cool weapons or armor sets, just once every 10 pieces is a “ok” one and 1 of 100 is a WOW one.

They should fire them all and ask random gamers about weapons >_> It’s terrible to see all those “reskins” wich are probably made within an afternoon …

They have to create weapons that sell, which means they need to be shiny, comically oversized and generally more appealing to the younger crowd (which is the largest demographic in the game, I think).
I think they did a very good job with the ascended weapons/armors.

Reskin? Doesn’t surprise me to be honest.

Anet needs better armour desigeners, period. OR get some inspiration from some other games. Where are the designers from the previous game?

Maybe they should take one living story team and turn it into a fashion team.

Miss Sugarific.8471:

Anet needs better armour desigeners, period. OR get some inspiration from some other games. Where are the designers from the previous game?

Maybe they should take one living story team and turn it into a fashion team.

This is not the first time they release re-skinned armor whipped up by one person on his lunch break. Like someone else said before, at least they’re not charging money for it.

This is just a lack of resources on their side. You can easily tell how much a company invests in something when you look at the quality of what they produce.

Can you pick the stats on the armor piece? I would see it as a free piece of ascended armor (if it ever drops), saves some gold with those pricey mats.

Buuuuuuut before anyone comes in here and bashes me, yeah at least they could had added the full set, hopefully this makes it a bit easier to acquire that gear (which I have no intent to get since I change my build a lot ).

The Tequatl weapons were just reskinned Ascended weapons, so it makes sense that these are just reskinned Ascended armor.

Seems the point of the ascended boss loot isn’t to grant 100% unique skins, but rather to give “special” versions of the ascended gear. And honestly, I kind of agree with that. In this way you give players who can beat those bosses something unique and noticeable, but without locking players who can’t beat the bosses out of a completely unique skin.

Not sure why they didn’t do the full set, though.

If they want some ideas for new armor and weapon skins look no further than Guild Wars 1. That said, I have a strange feeling that even bringing up the original game in conversation is grounds for termination. They don’t want to be reminded that the original game, while lacking in some ways, was so superior to its sequel in so many other ways.

Electro.4173:

Seems the point of the ascended boss loot isn’t to grant 100% unique skins, but rather to give “special” versions of the ascended gear. And honestly, I kind of agree with that. In this way you give players who can beat those bosses something unique and noticeable, but without locking players who can’t beat the bosses out of a completely unique skin.

Well they could have done this;

CaboSoul.1204:

For example what they could have done with the jungle wurm is release a new full set that’s only obtainable with tokens like FFXIV does. If you get coppper you get 10 tokens, silver 20 tokens and gold 30 tokens. and if the event fails you instead get 5 tokens for copper, 10 tokens for silver and 15 tokens for gold or something like that. Not only would it not make the armor rng it would make some if not a lot of people go to the event and do it seeing as how there’s a guaranteed way of getting it. And as extras you could also use those tokens to get the the items neccesary for the new legendary weapons that will be coming

kokiman.2364:

Xyonon.3987:

Yea I was disappointed too. The weapon and armor designer of the game are terrible, REALLY TERRIBLE. They are unable to create cool weapons or armor sets, just once every 10 pieces is a “ok” one and 1 of 100 is a WOW one.

They should fire them all and ask random gamers about weapons >_> It’s terrible to see all those “reskins” wich are probably made within an afternoon …

They have to create weapons that sell, which means they need to be shiny, comically oversized and generally more appealing to the younger crowd (which is the largest demographic in the game, I think).
I think they did a very good job with the ascended weapons/armors.

In the middle ages people used 60-70" swords in real battles. In a game where things can be made weightless & more powerful by magic it makes sense that the more prestigious weapons are big & shiny. I don’t think this has anything to do with age. Also while GW2 is very beautiful by mmo standards there are still some limitations, making a very detailed short & thin sword would be a waste, since not only would we need to zoom in to see anything, but the texture resolution would be evidently low.

(in case your wondering I’m 27 years old & I like big & shiny stuff)