The issue:
PvP players have to grind PvE to take part in WvW.
The consequence:
PvP players are mad because they’re getting cut off of half of their content.
The solution:
Make Ascended Gear available through Honor.
The result:
PvP players can take part in WvW without being forced to PvE
Comment
Since sPvP-gear stays the same, there is no balancing issue.
-It is a trade-off between skins / WvW access.-
So people at least can choose.
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Anet announced sPvP and PvE would be completely split, this suggestion would change that.
However, Anet also announced there would be no power circle.
The above solution would allow to even it out a little for sPvP players.
sPvPers against gear-grind.
Ascended Gear-progression disables WvW for us.
Stop it now!
If I can’t play Guild Wars 2 at work, I won’t work in Guild Wars 2 either.
Delayed content is eventually good. Rushed content is eternally bad. ~ Shigeru Miyamoto
Ascended and infusion rewards will be available in both PvE and WvW over time, and be made available through all sorts of content around the world including existing content. PvP will remain unaffected to ensure our intended PvP balance going forward.
Around the world= PvE, not PvP.
The main issue is that sPvP players will have to grind PvE over and over again in order to access WvW-PvP.
sPvPers against gear-grind.
Ascended Gear-progression disables WvW for us.
Stop it now!
But don´t you already have to play pve to get the exotic armour?
Yes, but like in GW1: once I got the equip I’m good to go forever
Now Anet announced continuing progression, rendering all my effort trash. Example: One could say I worked in order to get money.
From that money I bought what was announced to be a DvD.
Anet broke my DvD.
Now Anet forces me to continuously to (work to) pay fees, to watch the film again.
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E: To clarify this, as a PvP player I do consider PvE work but PvP not.
sPvPers against gear-grind.
Ascended Gear-progression disables WvW for us.
Stop it now!
That is right legendaries are a must now since they hold a statistical advantage over exotics. The new armour add +8% so in a fight that advantage is the diff between a win and a port back to way point.
WvW will have no choice to grind out the PVE just to be on par with others.
That is right legendaries are a must now since they hold a statistical advantage over exotics. The new armour add +8% so in a fight that advantage is the diff between a win and a port back to way point.
WvW will have no choice to grind out the PVE just to be on par with others.
Posts like these make me believe that most people attracted to GW2 are MOBA gamers instead of MMOers. Yes GW2 is not your typical MMO for sure…and I even have a legendary weapon just for the achievement and the looks…
But in the end of the day…just shut up and play all of the parts of the MMOs….it is not a MOBA. They keep sPvP unaffected as it should be.
But don´t you already have to play pve to get the exotic armour?
Yes, but like in GW1: once I got the equip I’m good to go forever
Now Anet announced continuing progression, rendering all my effort trash. Example: One could say I worked in order to get money.
From that money I bought what was announced to be a DvD.
Anet broke my DvD.
Now Anet forces me to continuously to (work to) pay fees, to watch the film again.
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E: To clarify this, as a PvP player I do consider PvE work but PvP not.
No. They just let everyon have better DvD than the one you bought, so you have to buy new one, to be equal. Maybe not big difference in results, but colossal in how you show ANet – for me they give me something, not steal from me.
But don´t you already have to play pve to get the exotic armour?
Yes, but like in GW1: once I got the equip I’m good to go forever
Now Anet announced continuing progression, rendering all my effort trash. Example: One could say I worked in order to get money.
From that money I bought what was announced to be a DvD.
Anet broke my DvD.
Now Anet forces me to continuously to (work to) pay fees, to watch the film again.
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E: To clarify this, as a PvP player I do consider PvE work but PvP not.
No. They just let everyon have better DvD than the one you bought, so you have to buy new one, to be equal. Maybe not big difference in results, but colossal in how you show ANet – for me they give me something, not steal from me.
The relation of competitive play is difficult to add into this example.
In the end of the grind circle, balancing will stay the same
=> The DvD (here: PvP play) doesn’t change.
But your DvD now is worse.
So let me change the example to rather fir the case.
They break your DvD.
They offer you copy of the film (PvP) with bad quality.
The quality will decrease further by time, unless you pay (time=money) again,
in order to watch the DvD in it’s original quality (=play WvW-PvP competitively)
One could argue new items are better and old items don’t become worse, BUT:
Gameplay isn’t effected by this difference of definition at all.
If A has 300 more armor and B has 300 more attack it will even out.
Balancing wise there will be >no difference< between those who got it.
(/No gameplay / “No DvD quality improvements”)
But people people who got old items are effected: they now have 300 less armor/attack than people who >paid again< for it.
sPvPers against gear-grind.
Ascended Gear-progression disables WvW for us.
Stop it now!
But don´t you already have to play pve to get the exotic armour?
Yes, but like in GW1: once I got the equip I’m good to go forever
Now Anet announced continuing progression, rendering all my effort trash. Example: One could say I worked in order to get money.
From that money I bought what was announced to be a DvD.
Anet broke my DvD.
Now Anet forces me to continuously to (work to) pay fees, to watch the film again.
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E: To clarify this, as a PvP player I do consider PvE work but PvP not.
More like:
You worked to get money.
You bought Guild Wars 2, knowing that it is an MMORPG that has patches and updates with new content, and is forever changing.
ANet has announced a future patch with a small amount of information. You then make a ton of assumptions about it, turn into a child, and moan about it.
Now, it is your choice whether or not to keep playing. You don’t have to pay a subscription fee or anything.
Please, people. Stop complaining, let the patch come out, analyze the options, then you might realize its not so bad. And if it is, then you can complain. Complaining about a patch when all we know is a little bit of pre-patch notes? Come on.
If you want a gear grind, go to WoW. If you bought this game in the hopes that it wasn’t another WoW, well, this is one step towards it. Gear Treadmills are for kids with nothing else to do with their time, not adults who just want a couple of hours a night to chill and pvp the heck out of people instead of their bosses.
