XP past level 80 be wasted til HoT release?

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Posted by: Muusic.2967

Muusic.2967

Quoting from the wallet changes: “Leveling up after level 80 no longer grants skill points, but level 80 characters will be able to loot spirit shards off of monsters.”

So does this mean that HoT is coming out next patch? Does this mean we will be earning masteries points prior to HoT release or does it mean we just completely lose any xp we earn past level 80 until the release happens?

Can anyone clarify?

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Posted by: ades.1386

ades.1386

No. HoT isnt coming out next patch..
For now leveling up past 80 will grant skill points and youll be able to use them.

Once HoT comes out our skill points will be converted into Shards which we will use for whatever the purpose is (as that hasnt been fully clarified yet)

If HoT was coming out next patch we would know.

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Posted by: zenleto.6179

zenleto.6179

I’d just be hoping HoT wouldn’t come out as a “patch” let alone what’s happening to skill points and levelling if this is what was going through my mind.

Fire up the Hyperbowl ma, we’re going to town!

Would you like some hard cheeze with your sad whine?

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Posted by: Zoot.7190

Zoot.7190

It sounds like all the Profession changes (specializations) and currency changes like this will be coming out before HoT in a major content patch. As in other MMOGs, this will deliver all the content and features that will apply to all players, not just the ones who purchase the expansion.

And they did say “next content patch” not “next patch”, so I don’t think we’re talking about next Tuesday or anything quite that soon.

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Posted by: Palindrome.8904

Palindrome.8904

It is a good point though. Unless they intend on implementing a temporary state where leveling beyond 80 gives the spirit shards, it would be wasted xp.

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Posted by: Teon.5168

Teon.5168

So does this mean that HoT is coming out next patch?

Whether it comes in the form of an in game patch or download, you’ll get plenty of warning when HoT will be released, as we will have to pay $$ for it.

I imagine HoT will be released as a download and/or boxed dvd. There will be a few players that won’t want to buy it, so I can’t see it being put in as some sort of patch like the ones they release on Tuesdays or whenever.

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Posted by: Linken.6345

Linken.6345

Yea this is a good question since the trait change come before hot. So should the hero and spirit shard conversion…. maybe they release vanila masteries tracks or make us earn spirit shards in the mean time.

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Posted by: Muusic.2967

Muusic.2967

No. HoT isnt coming out next patch..
For now leveling up past 80 will grant skill points and youll be able to use them.

This is in direct conflict with what the post said, “Leveling up after level 80 no longer grants skill points, but level 80 characters will be able to loot spirit shards off of monsters.”

This is why i’m asking for clarification because it’s either going to be wasted XP or business as usual between the time the spirit shards are implemented and when HoT is released.

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

Yamsandjams.3267

No. HoT isnt coming out next patch..
For now leveling up past 80 will grant skill points and youll be able to use them.

This is in direct conflict with what the post said, “Leveling up after level 80 no longer grants skill points, but level 80 characters will be able to loot spirit shards off of monsters.”

This is why i’m asking for clarification because it’s either going to be wasted XP or business as usual between the time the spirit shards are implemented and when HoT is released.

IIRC, your current amount of skill points you have will be converted to a certain amount of those shards. So if you level up and gain a skill point, that will earn you something when the updates occur. As to how much one skill point will be worth of the new currency, I can’t say. We don’t have those exact details yet. There will no longer be skill points once the specialization changes occur.

Note that masteries is an entirely separate concept that will not come until HoT, but the specialization implementation will be happening before that. Masteries have nothing to do with skill points going away.

If you want, you can earn your skill points now and just spend them on stuff, but if you just stock them up then they should not go to waste, in theory.

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Posted by: Linken.6345

Linken.6345

No. HoT isnt coming out next patch..
For now leveling up past 80 will grant skill points and youll be able to use them.

This is in direct conflict with what the post said, “Leveling up after level 80 no longer grants skill points, but level 80 characters will be able to loot spirit shards off of monsters.”

This is why i’m asking for clarification because it’s either going to be wasted XP or business as usual between the time the spirit shards are implemented and when HoT is released.

IIRC, your current amount of skill points you have will be converted to a certain amount of those shards. So if you level up and gain a skill point, that will earn you something when the updates occur. As to how much one skill point will be worth of the new currency, I can’t say. We don’t have those exact details yet. There will no longer be skill points once the specialization changes occur.

Note that masteries is an entirely separate concept that will not come until HoT, but the specialization implementation will be happening before that. Masteries have nothing to do with skill points going away.

If you want, you can earn your skill points now and just spend them on stuff, but if you just stock them up then they should not go to waste, in theory.

Way to miss the question we know all that in this thread.
What the OP asks is since trait changes coming before hot in a feature patch then the hero point conversion and spirit shard change should come then to, since if it dont we cant buy our skills.

What happens to the exp we get past 80 after core specialisations update and untill hot launches is it wasted?

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Posted by: Neox.3497

Neox.3497

It is a good point though. Unless they intend on implementing a temporary state where leveling beyond 80 gives the spirit shards, it would be wasted xp.

“Leveling up after level 80 no longer grants skill points, but level 80 characters will be able to loot spirit shards off of monsters.”

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Posted by: EiLrahc.8076

EiLrahc.8076

OP has a valid point. Between the patch that will introduce Spirit Shards and the release of the Mastery Point system, there is going to be a phase when players are “short changed” for leveling up at 80.

Whatever experience gained during this phase would have gone into the Mastery Point system; potentially “wasted” if the two are not implemented at the same time.

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

So does this mean that HoT is coming out next patch?

Whether it comes in the form of an in game patch or download, you’ll get plenty of warning when HoT will be released, as we will have to pay $$ for it.

I imagine HoT will be released as a download and/or boxed dvd. There will be a few players that won’t want to buy it, so I can’t see it being put in as some sort of patch like the ones they release on Tuesdays or whenever.

They’ll still be “patched” too, just that they don’t have access to it. Once they buy HoT, they’ll get the “permit” to enter HoT contents, but all the contents are already there in your patched data.

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

Yamsandjams.3267

I see now.

Yeah, I’m not sure what they’ll being doing. We’ll be in a bit of a weird transition period where there won’t be mastery points to obtain, so levelling up past 80 could potentially be pointless.

However, that’s not necessarily bad, per se. I mean, it’s not like anything is being lost. It’s not as though you’ll be missing out on mastery points. If you use a level up tome, you’ll still get a spirit shard. From what I understand, level up tomes will just give you a shard and not count towards mastery points at all, even post-HoT, but I could be wrong.

So while it is true that it is “wasted”, nothing actually goes to waste, per se. It’s not like experience is difficult to attain in this game anyways. I could understand if it took and entire week to grind out a level, but you can easily get a level every 10-20 minutes if you want to.

So my guess is that they’ll just leave it in the weird interim state and then implement the mastery stuff when HoT rolls around.