Guild Wars 2

With the an update coming around the corner will we finally see a new weapon class.

With the advent of the Engineer, I would have thought the inclusion of a crossbow would be a perfect meld between the compact short-bow and the pistol.
It would be a great deliverer of poison for Rangers.
The Legendary Assassin/Demon Stances of the Revenant could make use it as well.

Game of Bones.8975:

With the an update coming around the corner will we finally see a new weapon class.

Who said that? Or is this a question without question mark?

I’m pretty certain we won’t see a new weapon with the new expansion. We already have a bunch of weapons for elite specs.

Pifil.5193:

I’m pretty certain we won’t see a new weapon with the new expansion. We already have a bunch of weapons for elite specs.

That depends if one of the new elite specs require a new weapon, i.e spear, then Anet either allows existing spears to be used on land as well as in water or make a new but similar model of the existing one. But really it’s still all in the air if we will or not.

Best to just stay open to possibilities rather than completely doubt everything about the expansion.

because a rifle already beats a crossbow.

maybe a model for a rifle or pistol but not as a new weapon, i have yet to see an actual new weapon and if they finally come up with a new one i really want something really new like knuckles or a whip.

Because we have both guns and regular bows, cross bows would be redundant. Don’t expect new weapon types, you’re setting yourselves up for disappointment.

Two problems, one crossbows are two hand weapons more comparible to a rifle (the ones that can kill people anyway). Two pistol crossbows are terrible weapons, their bolt is too small and the draw too short to make them effective at hitting/killing anything. You might kill a rat with one but a person is far too much mass for them to be of benefit. This is why they aren’t used much in anything when it comes to fantasy except Dark Elves of Warhammer.

So yes it would be a good addition especially for the engineer, where the crossbow could be more the long range weapon and the rifle focused on short range combat like a shotgun. At this point it’s doubtful it will ever happen since elites are tied to one track and can’t be shared across the profession. The other option is a Sniper elite for Engineers that has a kit for a sniper rifle compared to a whole new weapon that would be tied to one elite.

Still, a crossbow that shoots sword would be cool. Especially laser swords. With chainsaws on them.

I think that a better question would be, “Y U have bows?”

In a game with submachine guns, assault rifles, grenades, flamethrowers, etc…a bent stick with a string attached and a pointed stick projectile seem thematically off.

Ashen.2907:

In a game with submachine guns, assault rifles, grenades, flamethrowers, etc…a bent stick with a string attached and a pointed stick projectile seem thematically off.

To be fair it wasn’t until the 1800s that guns actually got better than longbows.

The reason bows where dropped for guns is because wielding a longbow requires years of training to master, while a man can be trained to use a gun in a day.

Actually it was iron shot that finally made firearms superior to long bows. Iron shot could penetrate plate armor, where lead shot wasn’t as effective many times it would reinforce the armor it hit. Long bows had the benefit of accuracy (but lacked the armor penetration). It wasn’t until rifling that firearms became superior in both accuracy and armor negation.

Crinn.7864:

Ashen.2907:

In a game with submachine guns, assault rifles, grenades, flamethrowers, etc…a bent stick with a string attached and a pointed stick projectile seem thematically off.

To be fair it wasn’t until the 1800s that guns actually got better than longbows.

The reason bows where dropped for guns is because wielding a longbow requires years of training to master, while a man can be trained to use a gun in a day.

It doesnt really matter when, in the real world, guns finally outstripped bows (it happened earlier than the 1800’s) if we are referencing a setting with assault rifles, machineguns, flamethrowers, grenades, tanks, helicopters, attack submarines, etc…

I prefer fist weapon

Ashen.2907:

Crinn.7864:

Ashen.2907:

In a game with submachine guns, assault rifles, grenades, flamethrowers, etc…a bent stick with a string attached and a pointed stick projectile seem thematically off.

To be fair it wasn’t until the 1800s that guns actually got better than longbows.

The reason bows where dropped for guns is because wielding a longbow requires years of training to master, while a man can be trained to use a gun in a day.

It doesnt really matter when, in the real world, guns finally outstripped bows (it happened earlier than the 1800’s) if we are referencing a setting with assault rifles, machineguns, flamethrowers, grenades, tanks, helicopters, attack submarines, etc…

Some didn’t agree with you:

Warrior fought with Sword and Longbow in WW2:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill

The Greyhawk.9107:

Because we have both guns and regular bows, cross bows would be redundant. Don’t expect new weapon types, you’re setting yourselves up for disappointment.

Also, don’t expect anything to look as nice as that image you provided.

Still waiting for the Bunny Thumper for the ranger class to come out… Don’t fail us Anet!

Same reason we dont spears, its not on the weapons roster

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

Ashen.2907:

Crinn.7864:

Ashen.2907:

In a game with submachine guns, assault rifles, grenades, flamethrowers, etc…a bent stick with a string attached and a pointed stick projectile seem thematically off.

To be fair it wasn’t until the 1800s that guns actually got better than longbows.

The reason bows where dropped for guns is because wielding a longbow requires years of training to master, while a man can be trained to use a gun in a day.

It doesnt really matter when, in the real world, guns finally outstripped bows (it happened earlier than the 1800’s) if we are referencing a setting with assault rifles, machineguns, flamethrowers, grenades, tanks, helicopters, attack submarines, etc…

Some didn’t agree with you:

Warrior fought with Sword and Longbow in WW2:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill

Nothing in that article contradicts what I said.

toffin.5032:

Still waiting for the Bunny Thumper for the ranger class to come out… Don’t fail us Anet!

Loved playing a Thumper.

Hand crossbow = Pistol
Big crossbow = Rifle

We might see skins, but I doubt we’d see a new projectile weapon. Or a new weapon at all.

Ashen.2907:

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

Ashen.2907:

Crinn.7864:

Ashen.2907:

In a game with submachine guns, assault rifles, grenades, flamethrowers, etc…a bent stick with a string attached and a pointed stick projectile seem thematically off.

To be fair it wasn’t until the 1800s that guns actually got better than longbows.

The reason bows where dropped for guns is because wielding a longbow requires years of training to master, while a man can be trained to use a gun in a day.

It doesnt really matter when, in the real world, guns finally outstripped bows (it happened earlier than the 1800’s) if we are referencing a setting with assault rifles, machineguns, flamethrowers, grenades, tanks, helicopters, attack submarines, etc…

Some didn’t agree with you:

Warrior fought with Sword and Longbow in WW2:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill

Nothing in that article contradicts what I said.

Did you not read it? That kitten crazy motherkittener killed azinays with a bow, a broadsword and a set of motherkittening BAGPIPES! As the meme goes, your argument is now invalid.

Egrimm Van Horstmann.7921:

Actually it was iron shot that finally made firearms superior to long bows. Iron shot could penetrate plate armor, where lead shot wasn’t as effective many times it would reinforce the armor it hit. Long bows had the benefit of accuracy (but lacked the armor penetration). It wasn’t until rifling that firearms became superior in both accuracy and armor negation.

Crossbow quarrels actually were quite handy at piercing armor, but there were several factors that made the gun take over finally and completely. The penetration of iron shot is one of those, as well as the rifling of barrels making for accuracy greater than 10-15 feet (yes feet).

The matchlock didn’t become common until the mid 1700s, before which bows and crossbows still saw more frequent use in times of war. Most uses of firearms before that were relegated to being novelty weapons for taking out front line armored infantry on a single volley because of difficulty reloading and low range. Longbows would still take the standard volleys until armies were in the exceptionally short range of those with guns.

Even then rifled bores in firearms only existed in large quantities in the 1800s when mass production made them cheap and easy to produce (even though rifling was invented in the 15th century and improved on in the 16th).

Ashen.2907:

Crinn.7864:

Ashen.2907:

In a game with submachine guns, assault rifles, grenades, flamethrowers, etc…a bent stick with a string attached and a pointed stick projectile seem thematically off.

To be fair it wasn’t until the 1800s that guns actually got better than longbows.

The reason bows where dropped for guns is because wielding a longbow requires years of training to master, while a man can be trained to use a gun in a day.

It doesnt really matter when, in the real world, guns finally outstripped bows (it happened earlier than the 1800’s) if we are referencing a setting with assault rifles, machineguns, flamethrowers, grenades, tanks, helicopters, attack submarines, etc…

Yes, the setting has these things. The setting also has magic… and guns that can with a single weapon fire as both a long range rifle and a short range shotgun, and shoot bouncing bullets… You can fire an arrow that you can trigger to split in mid-air and split in to multiple explosions, or leave to have one bigger explosion. The argument is stupid. The game has lasers, why would anyone use anything but lasers? Because anachronism and rule of cool and MAGIC.