Guild Wars 2

Yesterday I figured out the meaning of hardcore gaming.

In the evening, my fiancée told me she needed a few hours of sauna. I said sure, quit the game and we drove to the sauna.

Hardcore would have been to tell her I had to kill some dragon with some guys on the other side of the evening for 4 more hours.

How many of you would have told your significant others to stay home because of a videogame? This question is at the core of hardcore gaming, and why most GW2 players don’t want things like raids, trinity and the like. Even a Guild Bounty only takes half an hour for a skilled team.

I tell my wife to wait all the time when I’m playing…I guess I’m hard core. Of course, the same is true of her. She makes me wait while she’s playing. Then again, we’re often playing together, so it’s not as much of a problem. lol

Seriously I understand what you’re saying. Real life has to come first.

I’m still trying to figure out who to contact to cancel my real life account, though. lol

hmmm aye.

yesterday, i need to quit halfway from a level 18 fractal run.
5 guild members party.

we finished our 1st fractal (ice) and almost near the end of the 2nd fractal (giant) when we got stuck at the run left and right seal.

too many chanters.
we were not fast enough.
we were not on mumble as one member did not have mumble installed yet.

it was 9.40pm
my wife just finished her bath.

she told me nicely its time to bath and watch vampire diaries together later.

i was like, f it, only 1.8 / 4 completed

i told my brother and guild members, “sorry, i gtg”
my bro said, “bro wife aggro”

i said thanks to everyone and said sorry as well.
we called it a night.
it was almost 12am for my brother as well. (he is in a different time zone)

and off to bath i go.

Wife aggro always takes priority.

Wife aggro doesn’t exist. It’s wife love. A bit like karka hatchling love.

Yargesh.4965:

Wife aggro always takes priority.

Don’t forget husband aggro :P
Seriously, I agree with Op- this is why I do not commit to dungeons with strangers because my husband and my daughter takes priority and they have a very developed "instance sense "
Open world exploring it is for me.

So, it seems until I find a significant other, I’m stuck in hardcore mode?

How many times do you pull your wives away from the middle of their favorite tv show to throw a football around or build a tree house together? Probably not too often. While I can agree with the general sentiment of the OP, some of you guys just sound whipped.

No game can ever come in between me and buritos.

penatbater.4710:

So, it seems until I find a significant other, I’m stuck in hardcore mode?

Not necessarily. Finding a significant other is incompatible with hardcore gaming too, potential girlfriends don’t present themselves at your front door (usually). Getting out of the house into a social gathering is pretty much a necessity.

I met my fiancée at a festival for which I had to drive 200km. Had I’ve been playing hardcore that weekend, I wouldn’t have met her.

Hmm… what do you say to people who have met their significant other while playing a game? Another "If you don’t play like I do, or have different priorities you’re wrong…and possibly immoral! " posts. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

It’s true. I met my wife in a virtual world. I moved 10,000 miles to be with her in real life. It seemed to make some kind of sense at the time. lol

marnick.4305:

Yesterday I figured out the meaning of hardcore sauna use.

In the evening, my fiancée told me she needed a few hours of playing Guild Wars 2. I said sure, quit the game and let her use my liquid nitrogen cooled rig to get in some phat world boss kills.

Hardcore would have been to tell her I needed to be driven down to the sauna right this instant so I can steam myself like a dumpling.

How many of you would have told your significant others to quit in the middle of Jormag because you wanted to sit in a very humid airing cupboard?

Fixed.

if anyone interrupt me when im playing is dead people. EVEN WIFE.

When my boyfriend and I are playing, it takes a bomb to drive us away (and even then we would probably look out of the window, go “meh”, and play until internet and/or electricity collapses).

Kitten, I thought we were pretty casual

Besetment.9187:

marnick.4305:

Yesterday I figured out the meaning of hardcore sauna use.

In the evening, my fiancée told me she needed a few hours of playing Guild Wars 2. I said sure, quit the game and let her use my liquid nitrogen cooled rig to get in some phat world boss kills.

Hardcore would have been to tell her I needed to be driven down to the sauna right this instant so I can steam myself like a dumpling.

How many of you would have told your significant others to quit in the middle of Jormag because you wanted to sit in a very humid airing cupboard?

Fixed.

I lol’ed.
Hard :-D

killcannon.2576:

Hmm… what do you say to people who have met their significant other while playing a game? Another "If you don’t play like I do, or have different priorities you’re wrong…and possibly immoral! " posts. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

While possible, I wouldn’t recommend relying on videogames to meet your future wife/husband. The rare exception isn’t a good argument. While I’ve heard about a few gaming couples, I heard about far more hardcore gamers who remain single. And although it isn’t immoral, I’m not convinced it is even remotely as good as meeting someone eye to eye. That’s an opinion though.

On the contrary, being a hardcore party animal won’t guarantee a fulfilling relationship either, so there’s that. Moderation is key.

Tosha Daydreamer.9251:

When my boyfriend and I are playing, it takes a bomb to drive us away (and even then we would probably look out of the window, go “meh”, and play until internet and/or electricity collapses).

Kitten, I thought we were pretty casual

In Belgium we had pretty limited internet access. Shared between 6 people, that’s hell. It wouldn’t be the first time I packed my laptop after it was exhausted and would arrive at my friends door to stay for a couple of days. Those were the times :p

“Hardcore” is just a polite way of saying “heavily addicted”.

marnick.4305:

Yesterday I figured out the meaning of hardcore gaming.

In the evening, my fiancée told me she needed a few hours of sauna. I said sure, quit the game and we drove to the sauna.

Hardcore would have been to tell her I had to kill some dragon with some guys on the other side of the evening for 4 more hours.

How many of you would have told your significant others to stay home because of a videogame? This question is at the core of hardcore gaming, and why most GW2 players don’t want things like raids, trinity and the like. Even a Guild Bounty only takes half an hour for a skilled team.

When I’ve been a core gamer in WoW a few years ago (and and addict, and really fat tbh), I had no gf, so that question didn’t arise. Guild leader, raid leader, class mentor, pvp group leader playing for ranks, that was a fulltime job. Usually more than 10 hours per day. Every. Single. Day. 16 hours and more on weekends. My current gf knows that and the only reason she “allowed” me to start playing GW2 was that it’s made for “busy adults”. And that worked out pretty well so far. Played ~400 hours in six months and never stepped back from any real life activities. I can just say “ok I’m out” and I’m not missing anything, unlike in those 40 person raids back them.

I’m 18 and don’t have a wife help me find the definition of hardcore oh great one

Iruwen.3164:

When I’ve been a core gamer in WoW a few years ago (and and addict, and really fat tbh), I had no gf, so that question didn’t arise. Guild leader, raid leader, class mentor, pvp group leader playing for ranks, that was a fulltime job. Usually more than 10 hours per day. Every. Single. Day. 16 hours and more on weekends. My current gf knows that and the only reason she “allowed” me to start playing GW2 was that it’s made for “busy adults”. And that worked out pretty well so far. Played ~400 hours in six months and never stepped back from any real life activities. I can just say “ok I’m out” and I’m not missing anything, unlike in those 40 person raids back them.

Wow, that’s pretty crazy hardcore. I used to raid 3 times a week in FFXI, and played it on and off for 8 years, but it was never like that. More like 10-15 hours a week and even that seemed like a lot.

But yeah, GW2 is much more reasonable and time-efficient than either WoW or FFXI. I was in WvW for a couple of hours last night, got 30 kills, helped out in the zerg, helped take a keep with a trebuchet for a while, did my daily, and ran the BL JP three times. When I was raiding in FFXI it would have taken almost an hour just for everyone to show up and gear up, lol.

The fun versus time ratio in GW2 is good!

Kakeru.2873:

I’m 18 and don’t have a wife help me find the definition of hardcore oh great one

Having a wife is not necessary. Try deadline at work or exams at uni. They’re just as effective.

I think the OP is correct in his assessment of hardcore mode but I would add a few points here.

With my Ex any time I spent gaming at all was considered a waste of time. I would be harangued about any gaming what so ever. That relationship lasted only a few years.

With my current relationship I made kitten sure she understood that gaming time was my equivalent of her watching Dancing with the Stars, her soap operas, The Bachelor and more. I added up all the time she spent with her entertainment and added up all my time game playing for a week. My game playing came out to far less than her entertainment time.

We do have entertainment that we share, Doctor Who, Iron Chef, and a few others and other activities. I make sure I spend that time with her. Any spur of the moment activity is subject to BOTH of our schedules and current activities. She does not expect me to drop everything on a whim and I do not expect that of her.

If I was going to be in something that lasts for 4+ hours she would know about it. Most of the content in this game does not take nearly that long though. But yeah, if I’m in the middle of a normal dungeon run that’s going to be no longer thakittenminutes I don’t drop what I’m doing because she decided she needed to go somewhere RIGHT NOW. If she needed to go somewhere that badly she should plan for it.

cdsmith.1072:

With my current relationship I made kitten sure she understood that gaming time was my equivalent of her watching Dancing with the Stars, her soap operas, The Bachelor and more. I added up all the time she spent with her entertainment and added up all my time game playing for a week. My game playing came out to far less than her entertainment time.

Absolutely agree. I’ve said the same thing on several occasions. I do see videogames as a very relaxing hobby. She supports me in that and I support her with her soap operas.

I think I am very lucky in that both my husband and I play games and that we don’t even have a TV.
Our main form of non gaming entertainment is to sit on our porch and talk nonsense for hours, play with our dog and argue about who read the coolest book lately.

my, I just read that and we are so not hardcore

I’m very glad my boyfriend and I play and enjoy games together, I couldn’t imagine having a partner not into the same stuff as me :o

cdsmith.1072:

I think the OP is correct in his assessment of hardcore mode but I would add a few points here.

With my Ex any time I spent gaming at all was considered a waste of time. I would be harangued about any gaming what so ever. That relationship lasted only a few years.

With my current relationship I made kitten sure she understood that gaming time was my equivalent of her watching Dancing with the Stars, her soap operas, The Bachelor and more. I added up all the time she spent with her entertainment and added up all my time game playing for a week. My game playing came out to far less than her entertainment time.

We do have entertainment that we share, Doctor Who, Iron Chef, and a few others and other activities. I make sure I spend that time with her. Any spur of the moment activity is subject to BOTH of our schedules and current activities. She does not expect me to drop everything on a whim and I do not expect that of her.

Same here. Last time we had an argument on that topic, she told me I was playing way more than our “normal” friends. I was a bit annoyed because technically she called me unnormal, so I came up with a quick list of people who are playing way more than me and what exactly they play. She even mentioned my best friend (who’s also a colleague), he’s actually a D3 addict and is sometimes late for work when he played the night before. One guy on her list remained, next time we were over at his and his girlfriend’s place, I asked him what he did last weekend: played PES 2012 on PS3 most of the time.
…priceless. And I didn’t say a word. Just pokerface.
The real problem is when women don’t have any hobbies except being your gf. And often, they don’t accept the fact that gaming is an actual hobby.
“You’re an IT expert, you’re working with your computer all day long, how can you do the same in your free time?”
Uhm, maybe because I like my job and doing things with computers and I don’t work at home (only sometimes)?
Just one thing: when she says you’re getting fat – twink twice before you reply :o

Real life > a bunch of 1’s and 0’s… just say’n

I don’t think hardcore has to mean that you neglect your social/work life. I believe you can be successful in life and be a hardcore gamer. On average I get in about 2 hours of play time a night. Instead of spending that time spinning around LA, I’m in dungeons, farming or working on whatever goal I currently have for the entire time. When I was working on my legendary, almost every moment in game for over two months was spent doing the activities that would get me to my legendary.

I dont understand why you wouldnt just let her drive herself to the sauna for a few hours, instead of going with her. Was it fun sitting in the car or whatever while she did her thing? I’d have told my girlfriend to drive herself, its not like its an eye doctor appointment or something where you shouldnt be driving after. It sounds to me like you might have problems of another kind. makes whip noises

marnick.4305:

Yesterday I figured out the meaning of hardcore gaming.

In the evening, my fiancée told me she needed a few hours of sauna. I said sure, quit the game and we drove to the sauna.

Hardcore would have been to tell her I had to kill some dragon with some guys on the other side of the evening for 4 more hours.

How many of you would have told your significant others to stay home because of a videogame? This question is at the core of hardcore gaming, and why most GW2 players don’t want things like raids, trinity and the like. Even a Guild Bounty only takes half an hour for a skilled team.

I don’t really agree with that. Finishing what you are in the middle of doing does not necessarily mean you are hardcore about it. Imagine you were doing laundry and she said she wanted to go to the sauna and you said you need to wait for the dryer to finish. Are you hardcore about Laundry? Nope.

However, sticking for 4 more hours may give you that title. Simply saying, I am in a dungeon right now, let’s go after is fine. That would be asking her to wait without classifying yourself as hardcore, imo.

I would have. “Hold on let me finish this boss/dungeon/raid/whatever”, she hears that all the time. I also don’t think that makes me “hardcore”.

Jemmi.6058:

I don’t really agree with that. Finishing what you are in the middle of doing does not necessarily mean you are hardcore about it. Imagine you were doing laundry and she said she wanted to go to the sauna and you said you need to wait for the dryer to finish. Are you hardcore about Laundry? Nope.

I am hardcore about laundry.

I do laundry 24/7. I scour the Internets to figure out the best fabric softner.

Man, you casual launderers are ruining it for us.

Now this is hardcore!

AngryCat.4825:

Jemmi.6058:

I don’t really agree with that. Finishing what you are in the middle of doing does not necessarily mean you are hardcore about it. Imagine you were doing laundry and she said she wanted to go to the sauna and you said you need to wait for the dryer to finish. Are you hardcore about Laundry? Nope.

I am hardcore about laundry.

I do laundry 24/7. I scour the Internets to figure out the best fabric softner.

Man, you casual launderers are ruining it for us.

lmfao!

There are no hardcore or casuals. There are people for whom a game is their hobby. Hobbyists put as much of their time into their hobby as they can get away with, making it almost like a job, but one they enjoy. Then there are people playing the game as a pastime. They are more likely to log off to do other things, like saying, “Of course, dear.”

Hardcore = Planning life around the game.
Casual = Planning the game around life.

Problem solved for me: Wife plays when I do.

Oofta.8036:

Hardcore = Planning life around the game.
Casual = Planning the game around life.

Where is the “like” button. This pretty much sums it up.

There is a +1 button on every post, that’d be your like button you wish for

Also, nicely posted, but I disagree.

You can play casually and still plan life around the game sometimes. i.e. “MOTD Guild Mission, bounty this Wednesday at 6pm!” so a member logs in at 6pm on Wednesday to do it. Doesn’t mean they are hardcore, but they did plan around logging in at that time.

You can also play hardcore but plan your game around your life. Say you are a student, you have exams coming up and put the game on hold for awhile while you study. Prior to that you were playing lengthy hours, have 100% map completion, PVP excessively, live on the forums, take the game very seriously, know every patch, run every dungeon etc etc (one could say hardcore).

Anyway, I do not think it’s quite so simple.

marnick.4305:

Yesterday I figured out the meaning of hardcore gaming.

In the evening, my fiancée told me she needed a few hours of sauna. I said sure, quit the game and we drove to the sauna.

Hardcore would have been to tell her I had to kill some dragon with some guys on the other side of the evening for 4 more hours.

How many of you would have told your significant others to stay home because of a videogame? This question is at the core of hardcore gaming, and why most GW2 players don’t want things like raids, trinity and the like. Even a Guild Bounty only takes half an hour for a skilled team.

Just out of sheer curiosity… does she not have a license? To me that time she is out enjoying her sauna is the more appropriate time to play, rather than when she is home.

That’s one of my favorite parts of GW2.

I log in. An event is happening. I do it. I do some casual PVP, maybe even a fractal or dungeon if I have time.

If at some point, I need to (or want to) leave, I just do it. I don’t “lose” progress in a quest, now that the dungeon/fractal can add new members, it’s not a huge deal if I leave during a dungeon. Sure, I play the game all day sometimes, but on the days when I don’t have time, I log in for 30 minutes, do my dailies, have fun, and then go back to work.

Jemmi.6058:

There is a +1 button on every post, that’d be your like button you wish for

Also, nicely posted, but I disagree.

You can play casually and still plan life around the game sometimes. i.e. “MOTD Guild Mission, bounty this Wednesday at 6pm!” so a member logs in at 6pm on Wednesday to do it. Doesn’t mean they are hardcore, but they did plan around logging in at that time.

You can also play hardcore but plan your game around your life. Say you are a student, you have exams coming up and put the game on hold for awhile while you study. Prior to that you were playing lengthy hours, have 100% map completion, PVP excessively, live on the forums, take the game very seriously, know every patch, run every dungeon etc etc (one could say hardcore).

Anyway, I do not think it’s quite so simple.

+1

I was supposed to take my wife out to breakfast, but the Karka event started. So I told her to wait a few minutes. That few minutes turned into hours. I then told her to get breakfast and bring it back home.

She wasn’t mad, because I always make it up to her via shopping trips.

CodeE.4857:

If I was going to be in something that lasts for 4+ hours she would know about it. Most of the content in this game does not take nearly that long though. But yeah, if I’m in the middle of a normal dungeon run that’s going to be no longer than 45 minutes I don’t drop what I’m doing because she decided she needed to go somewhere RIGHT NOW. If she needed to go somewhere that badly she should plan for it.

I agree with this. There is a difference between “need” and “want”. The OPs example of the sauna is a “want” not a “need”. If I’m not overly engrossed in what I’m doing I’d be happy to take her, but I’m not going to just drop everything every time someone wants to do something. So in his situation, if he would have said no it wouldn’t have made him any more or less hardcore. You don’t have to have something wrong with you to want to put at least some priority on yourself in your life.

To determine whether you are a hardcore player based you reply to the demand of “Jump” with the question “How high?” or not isn’t really a good basis.

Oofta.8036:

Hardcore = Planning life around the game.
Casual = Planning the game around life.

So does that mean that people who plan an evening around their favorite television show is a “hardcore” television watcher?

On the other side of the coin, I find it hypocritical if video games are automatically rejected as antisocial and must be shut off at the drop of a hat, while certain other activities or hobbies get a free pass and are accepted as “normal.”

Consider these scenarios:

1 a) You are in the middle of a dungeon with some guildies, but the wife makes it clear that it’s time to go sit and be quiet in front of your nightly television show that you don’t even enjoy all that much. She knows you can’t just “pause” an MMO, and you’d be inconveniencing your friends by leaving abruptly, so maybe you’ve got some leeway here — but ultimately, “real life comes first” and every minute you delay is only going to land you in hot water.
“Ha ha, gotta keep the wife happy! Sorry folks, hope you can do the rest of the dungeon without me!” I’m not some game-addicted loser!

1 b) Your wife is in the middle of her television show, when you come in and ask her pause the show and come play Guild Wars instead. She says she will in a minute, however after a while it is clear that she is not coming and you are getting annoyed that she is watching so much TV and not playing games with you.
You would be considered a weirdo, and possibly abusive, and anyone would tell her to leave you. It’s just a game, what’s your problem?
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2 a) You have been invited to a party, but it’s not really your kind of crowd so you end up awkwardly huddling in the basement where a few guys are watching Family Guy reruns and having a definitively mediocre time.
Good for you, getting out there! At least you’re not at home on a Friday night! This is REAL LIFE!

2 b) You have been invited to a party, but it’s not really your kind of crowd and it’s on the other side of the city, so instead you opt to sit this one out and play some Guild Wars with your buddies.
What a pathetic shut-in! Only antisocial nerds schedule their lives around video games!
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3 a) It’s the superbowl, ZOMG! Better block off my entire Sunday and call my friends to come over so we can sit around and eat chips and wings and watch men in tights throw a ball around!
This is the greatest day of the year! Hoorah for footballs! Maybe there will be a halftime show with boobs! Sports are important to be excited about!!!

3 b) Some new cool game or expansion is coming out, so you have your friends over for a LAN party.
Pretty sad, guys. As if you’re ORGANIZING video game parties now, like it’s a NORMAL thing people DO! Gross. You are the worst ever, and are probably perverts. Also, other bad things, about YOU, you nerds!
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4 a) Blew $80 on junk food/alcohol last night, at some bar. I don’t remember anything, so I must have had a wicked time! Aaawww yeeaah!! Worst hangover ever, though. Woke up at 3pm and still feel sick. No way I’m going out tonight! LOL!
Ah, the free-spirited energy of youth! Now THIS guy knows how to party! You only live once, and money is meant to be spent anyhow!

4 b) Spent $20 on Gems in GW2, had a few laughs over voice chat last night with your friends. Supposed to go out tonight, though your friend just called and cancelled due to being hung over.
You spent REAL money, on fake virtual stuff in your game?! What a rip off! Don’t you have any better use for your money than that?

Fyrebrand is spot on.

Video games still have a bad connotation even though they are a far cheaper hobby than the majority of them out there. Paying $60 and getting hundreds or even thousands of hours of entertainment out of it is incredible.

A game like an MMO is actually more social than people make it out to be. Just because someone doesn’t live in my city doesn’t mean we aren’t having real social interactions. This is spending time with friends.