Guild Wars 2

You’re looking at the xpac the wrong way.

On the one hand some people say the xpac is overpriced flat out. It’s debatable but basically it has no sub and a fair store that doesn’t pay gate necessary aspects of the game. You also get quite a bit of free content updates and server maintenance. You’re getting a lot for your money. But if you think it’s unfair, that’s fine it’ll probably go on sale at some point and you’ll still get a lot of content in the form of pvp, wvw, and class changes. Vote with you’re wallets, I won’t argue with you.

Others are saying the xpac is totally reasonable for many of the reasons listed above. You’ll support the game no matter what because you love it. That’s fantastic. It’s a terrific game that’s been kept afloat by you interest and generosity. I personally have no problem with the $50 price tag to support a terrific company.

My problem, and I’ve seen it a few other places, is what we’re getting for upgrading an existing account. Which is nothing. I’m now faced with either getting the game and creating a new account, thereby giving me 5 more character slots and a bank’s worth of storage space, or losing all that for the sake of the character’s I’ve invested my time and effort in. I get nothing for upgrading an account other than I get to take my characters with me.

That’s a difficult choice for me at least, and it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I’d suggest some kind of incentive for returning players. I’d suggest something like 1500 gems so we can get a new character slot and some goodies off the gem store. It costs them nothing and would fix many of the problems people are having. I’ll be disappointed if nothing is done about this…

Don’t try and rationalize this… It’s a bad deal no matter how you cut it and people aren’t gonna be fooled so easily.

You say that you get nothing for upgrading an existing account…

Dont you actually get an upgraded account with access to HoT, existing characters, existing gold/karma/laurels/exotics/ascended/etc all available to go into HoT?

What content updates?

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I actually have to agree. These are some fairly good points. I would love to support the game and $50 seems like a decent price… for what? What is in the expansion? Is it everything we’ve seen so far or is there a ton of content hiding somewhere?

Ashen.2907:

You say that you get nothing for upgrading an existing account…

Dont you actually get an upgraded account with access to HoT, existing characters, existing gold/karma/laurels/exotics/ascended/etc all available to go into HoT?

“other than I get to take my characters with me.” I said that

Photonman.6241:

You’re looking at the xpac the wrong way.

On the one hand some people say the xpac is overpriced flat out. It’s debatable but basically it has no sub and a fair store that doesn’t pay gate necessary aspects of the game. You also get quite a bit of free content updates and server maintenance. You’re getting a lot for your money. But if you think it’s unfair, that’s fine it’ll probably go on sale at some point and you’ll still get a lot of content in the form of pvp, wvw, and class changes. Vote with you’re wallets, I won’t argue with you.

Others are saying the xpac is totally reasonable for many of the reasons listed above. You’ll support the game no matter what because you love it. That’s fantastic. It’s a terrific game that’s been kept afloat by you interest and generosity. I personally have no problem with the $50 price tag to support a terrific company.

My problem, and I’ve seen it a few other places, is what we’re getting for upgrading an existing account. Which is nothing. I’m now faced with either getting the game and creating a new account, thereby giving me 5 more character slots and a bank’s worth of storage space, or losing all that for the sake of the character’s I’ve invested my time and effort in. I get nothing for upgrading an account other than I get to take my characters with me.

That’s a difficult choice for me at least, and it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I’d suggest some kind of incentive for returning players. I’d suggest something like 1500 gems so we can get a new character slot and some goodies off the gem store. It costs them nothing and would fix many of the problems people are having. I’ll be disappointed if nothing is done about this…

Let me do the most simplest math for you.

Current Guild Wars 2 players.. They paid either from $10-60 (depending on promotional deal) And now HoT at $50. Thats around either $60-$110.

New players only pay $50, because the core game is included.

Semi new players, bought the core game first thinking this is what was going to be required, and some had bought the core game at the PAX (south?) announcement, so that is well over 30 days, and can’t get a refund.

If ANet actually had respect for its current players, they would have offered them say a $30 expansion upgrade option instead if the core game was found on their account.(and price would be higher for deluxe or ultimate accordingly). Lets just say a flat out $20 discount across all packages. I think a lot more people that currently play would be much happier, but now there is some rage over on reddit.

Don’t get me started on people that bought 1 character slot just for the Revenant, and then end up getting one from deluxe and up.

Anyways I think you understand my point.

Vegeta.2563:

Photonman.6241:

You’re looking at the xpac the wrong way.

On the one hand some people say the xpac is overpriced flat out. It’s debatable but basically it has no sub and a fair store that doesn’t pay gate necessary aspects of the game. You also get quite a bit of free content updates and server maintenance. You’re getting a lot for your money. But if you think it’s unfair, that’s fine it’ll probably go on sale at some point and you’ll still get a lot of content in the form of pvp, wvw, and class changes. Vote with you’re wallets, I won’t argue with you.

Others are saying the xpac is totally reasonable for many of the reasons listed above. You’ll support the game no matter what because you love it. That’s fantastic. It’s a terrific game that’s been kept afloat by you interest and generosity. I personally have no problem with the $50 price tag to support a terrific company.

My problem, and I’ve seen it a few other places, is what we’re getting for upgrading an existing account. Which is nothing. I’m now faced with either getting the game and creating a new account, thereby giving me 5 more character slots and a bank’s worth of storage space, or losing all that for the sake of the character’s I’ve invested my time and effort in. I get nothing for upgrading an account other than I get to take my characters with me.

That’s a difficult choice for me at least, and it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I’d suggest some kind of incentive for returning players. I’d suggest something like 1500 gems so we can get a new character slot and some goodies off the gem store. It costs them nothing and would fix many of the problems people are having. I’ll be disappointed if nothing is done about this…

Let me do the most simplest math for you.

Current Guild Wars 2 players.. They paid either from $10-60 (depending on promotional deal) And now HoT at $50. Thats around either $60-$110.

New players only pay $50, because the core game is included.

Semi new players, bought the core game first thinking this is what was going to be required, and some had bought the core game at the PAX (south?) announcement, so that is well over 30 days, and can’t get a refund.

If ANet actually had respect for its current players, they would have offered them say a $30 expansion upgrade option instead if the core game was found on their account.(and price would be higher for deluxe or ultimate accordingly). Lets just say a flat out $20 discount across all packages. I think a lot more people that currently play would be much happier, but now there is some rage over on reddit.

Don’t get me started on people that bought 1 character slot just for the Revenant, and then end up getting one from deluxe and up.

Anyways I think you understand my point.

“Vote with you’re wallets, I won’t argue with you.” I said that

Cashshop games make as much or in some cases more money then p2p games.

And EVERYONE in this thread has forgotten about the gem-store content which aids in keeping the game afloat. They are not a wallowing fish slowly dying off and this expansion will breathe new life. Look at 2015’s Q1 they are MAKING money past development costs, this money isn’t magically spawning somewhere they’ve made it threw the gemstore. This expansion isn’t the magical life-giving bullet Anet needs to keep from drowning, they have water wings and a life jacket through the gemstore and so far they’ve been floating quite well,

Anet has bent us over a barrel and parked it on this one.

Even a package that’s $5 less without the core game would have kept most of this at bay, but no…. You buy the core game again and we can’t even be kitten d to give you a single character slot.

You also don’t mention anywhere how much more content will be included in this expac. Will I be buying another expac and the core game for the third time over the coming months?

Anet please stop screwing your long term players on this one.

Oh yeah, I don’t have a problem with the way the gemstore is, (except that rediculous gems to gold rate :p)

Dal.5872:

Anet has bent us over a barrel and parked it on this one.

Even a package that’s $5 less without the core game would have kept most of this at bay, but no…. You buy the core game again and we can’t even be kitten d to give you a single character slot.

You also don’t mention anywhere how much more content will be included in this expac. Will I be buying another expac and the core game for the third time over the coming months?

Anet please stop screwing your long term players on this one.

The lack of information as to how much content we are getting, whilst expecting us to shell out money, is my biggest gripe. I’d be happy to look at paying if I could see what and how much I’m getting. Don’t ask me to gamble.

MashMash.1645:

I’d be happy to look at paying if I could see what and how much I’m getting.

Unfortunately, I think we’ve pretty much already seen how much we’re getting. I don’t think they’re hiding a massive amount of content as a surprise.