Guild Wars 2

Besides knowing your class and recognizing your enemies in pvp, is there any possible way to become the “best” in something that isnt pvp related?

Getting 1-2 sets of exotic armor with a couple of weapons with “perfect” runes and sigils that you use in dungeons and exploring the pve world at lvl 80 doesn’t seem to be much of a problem.

I cant see any possible way of becoming better than the next guy i encounter in the world.

I could get ascended armor and legendary weapons…but that only increases my stats slightly more than the one with exotic gear.

Personally i can only see numerous ways of making my character “complete”.

Finish all story missions, finish all achievements possible, get them home instance nodes,get the most used armor/weapon sets + a dungeon ascended/legendary set, get the max pvp rank, do all pvp rewards once, titles…minipets that arent gem store related….100% world completion..

Keep collecting all daily rewards you can (such as wintersday daily achievements laurel, gathering nodes from home instances, dungeon rewards, megaboss events

There are a ton of things to do in gw2 but i just cant seem to think of anything that will make me a better character ,or a better player than the other guy.

Any ideas?

Soloing dungeons seems to be a popular yardstick for measuring how good someone is on an individual level

You can try to look like me.

just asked this on guild chat,someone recommended infusing my gear to be able to do harder fractals.

as for dungeons….its a nice idea but in my eyes its kinda pointless seeing how dungeons work nowdays

Vukorep.3081:

Besides knowing your class and recognizing your enemies in pvp, is there any possible way to become the “best” in something that isnt pvp related?

Getting 1-2 sets of exotic armor with a couple of weapons with “perfect” runes and sigils that you use in dungeons and exploring the pve world at lvl 80 doesn’t seem to be much of a problem.

I cant see any possible way of becoming better than the next guy i encounter in the world.

I could get ascended armor and legendary weapons…but that only increases my stats slightly more than the one with exotic gear.

Personally i can only see numerous ways of making my character “complete”.

Finish all story missions, finish all achievements possible, get them home instance nodes,get the most used armor/weapon sets + a dungeon ascended/legendary set, get the max pvp rank, do all pvp rewards once, titles…minipets that arent gem store related….100% world completion..

Keep collecting all daily rewards you can (such as wintersday daily achievements laurel, gathering nodes from home instances, dungeon rewards, megaboss events

There are a ton of things to do in gw2 but i just cant seem to think of anything that will make me a better character ,or a better player than the other guy.

Any ideas?

Most of the ‘’I am a better player’’ is based around your actual understanding of the game and your character. GW2 isn’t about gear and therefore, if you are looking to make a character and gear them up, it will most probably not take you too long assuming you will skip ascended.

GW2 is a game for collectors. People who like gear treadmill and ‘’building up their character to have the best stats’’ will probably not have too much to do. Otherwise, you won’t be able to run higher-level fractals without ascended. You need AR and you get that with the infusions on ascended.

You have to solo Fractal 100

The best idea I can think of is to learn to be a really good commander in WvW. That’s definitely something not everyone would be able to do, and if you do manage it you’ll get recognition from other players on your server (and sometimes even other servers) for doing a good job.

But simply getting more powerful equipment and skills to get bigger numbers than other people isn’t an option. This game (like GW1) was always intended to have a relatively low and easily accessible cap on stat increases, so that almost everyone would be able to achieve it and the thing that set better players apart was how they learned to make use of it.

You could reach the top of the FotM leaderboards!

In PVE, excellence is’nt catered for. GW2 is too shallow and simplistic, almost something for players to start out with prior to moving on to more comprehensive games.

Anet gives you an insane amount of power as an individual character. It’s amusing to see people say GW2 is so simplistic and they carry 1 set of gear and use the same traits for everything. There’s more to GW2 pve than sitting in the melee stack in your shaman gear buffing swiftness and gimpy staff might. You should be carrying 2-3 sets of gear, every weapon your class can use, and learning what specs work most efficiently in what dungeons, and also watching your team and building on the fly for how you can best help them. Your “preferred setup” isn’t helping, sorry to break it to you.

Being the best in PvE means having more gold than Wanze and Smooth Penguin combined.

Asgaeroth.6427:

Anet gives you an insane amount of power as an individual character. It’s amusing to see people say GW2 is so simplistic and they carry 1 set of gear and use the same traits for everything. There’s more to GW2 pve than sitting in the melee stack in your shaman gear buffing swiftness and gimpy staff might. You should be carrying 2-3 sets of gear, every weapon your class can use, and learning what specs work most efficiently in what dungeons, and also watching your team and building on the fly for how you can best help them. Your “preferred setup” isn’t helping, sorry to break it to you.

The OP wants to target being the best; but they will never get away from the auto attack players because the game lacks depth.

Ascended gear is just the start….. there are also offensive/defensive infusions you can put in your ascended armor to further increase your stats.

Even though each of them separately is not much… if you replace a full suit of exotic armor and weapons with a full suit of ascended armor and weapons then put the infusions in, it really does add up.

Ceta.6057:

In PVE, excellence is’nt catered for. GW2 is too shallow and simplistic, almost something for players to start out with prior to moving on to more comprehensive games.

I don’t agree with this at all. Of course, my idea of excellence is probably unrelated to whatever you think it to be, so there’s that.

GW2 requires more personal and courteous skill than almost any mmo on the market today. The only one I could point at and declare to be more rewarding of hardcore knowledge and skill of one’s overall toolbox would be EVE online, and that odd gem definitely isn’t requiring of the same sort of skill or same metas of knowledge to be excellent in.

Here, you don’t have to be excellent to trundle around the world and do OK. I mean honestly, my wife, bless her soul, can’t do a jumping puzzle, cajoles me into doing dungeons for her so she can have pretties and had no interest at all in PvP if it isn’t in an fps (in which case, she’ll turn into a harbinger of evil and kill everybody. She’s very good at those games).

She can putter around the world pretty OK here in gw2, but she can’t do anything nearly so effectively as I can if she’s trying on her own.

I know where to go for every little nagging thing – she still gets lost in Hoelbrak. I could write effective dungeon guides for meta and non-meta rubs off every dungeon there is, every path, every boss.

In pretty sure she wouldn’t know that the big door icons on the world map were locations of dungeons, let alone care.

Knowledge of the game is important here.

PvP? It’s not really my thing at all – I don’t like that sort of contention much in persistent, cooperative games – so it’s stand to reason that my practiced skill at it is low.

I PvP with guildies just enough to know this to be true – I’m not good at what most of them are excellent at. Yet, I’m not an idiot and know my classes and bulls very well, and am excellent in other areas.

Some are excellent in all of them. The difference between the excellent and the mediocre is vast here.

And it should be.

If you wanna be the very best, maybe you should go and check out Pokémon.

This is an easy question to answer.

Unlock every single skin in the Wardrobe.

The player who is dedicated, skilled, rich and lucky enough to do that can rightly claim the title of being ANet’s biggest fan and the most dedicated GW2 player in the world. And as far as I know, no player has ever done this yet.

AzureSky.3175:

If you wanna be the very best, maybe you should go and check out Pokémon.

/thread. I laughed at that way louder than I should have.

Far as I can tell the benchmarks for PvE skill are high level Fractals and soloing Arah. I’d be pretty impressed by someone who had the infused capacitor and a complete set of fractal weapons on their character (underwater included). I’ve seen a lot of shinies in this game, but neverthat.

Being the last man standing in a long-term fight . . . and winning it.

It largely depends on how you define and measure “the best,” but two possibilities would be unlocking every achievement and/or having the highest possible fractal level. Both of those would lead me to give a nod of respect and acknowledge someone as being one of “the best” PvE players in terms of overall game-play skills.

Being the best depends on what aspect of GW2 you are playing: PVE, PVP or WvWvW.

I play all aspects playing with 8 professions , I can tell you what I consider best players in their chosen aspects

@OP What aspect of GW2 do you play?

I’m so good at the PvE in this game, champions brag when they can solo me. lol

Randulf.7614:

Soloing dungeons seems to be a popular yardstick for measuring how good someone is on an individual level

meh, you’re fighting A.I.s. Fighting actual players is more challenging.

Wanze.8410:

You can try to look like me.

You mean, in game or real life? Cuz s/he will (probably) want to draw the line at sex reassignment surgery if that’s what is needed.

Collect ALL the minis! “Gotta catch them all GW2 Minis!”

pepper.6179:

Randulf.7614:

Soloing dungeons seems to be a popular yardstick for measuring how good someone is on an individual level

meh, you’re fighting A.I.s. Fighting actual players is more challenging.

Deep Blue called from 1997 and wants to know if you’d like to play chess.

Don’t scoff too hard at a.i’s mate. Schiff at those that make sissy A.I’s, because they absolutely do not have to be.

I dunno what you guys are about but, it’s a mere fact that I am the most:

• fabulous
• awesome
• amazing
• intelligent
• handsome
• anything positive +1 more
  that anyone else in the world.

Ceta.6057:

In PVE, excellence is’nt catered for. GW2 is too shallow and simplistic, almost something for players to start out with prior to moving on to more comprehensive games.

And yet people still miss the basic mechanics.

I had to make a video explaining defiance the other day because I kept finding people had no clue how it worked..

Ceta.6057:

In PVE, excellence is’nt catered for. GW2 is too shallow and simplistic, almost something for players to start out with prior to moving on to more comprehensive games.

I agree with your first sentence. GW2 you don’t have to be great to get things done, not by a long shot. BUT, the combat allows it, the game play allows it. It’s there. The idea that there is no depth in this game is simply a fallacy created by the fact that there has been no new challenging content coming out, at all.

I’ve played other MMOs, played other RPGs, GW2 has a structure better than most and more fluid than any I’ve played. That’s the only reason I’m still around. All we need is new content that builds upon that gameplay in new and deeper ways.

As proof of my position I’d point out speedruns of dungeons. One misstep and you can throw the entire encounter off. A Stability/Aegis mistimed. A Projectile defense thrown late. Even a DPS rotation done poorly and you’re looking at a botched run. The depth of content is there it’s simply gone unused for the most part because you don’t have to do it, it just takes longer.

The game has the capacity to have content that requires the utmost attention and perfection, they simply haven’t given that content to us, instead we get another round of mindless open world zerging with some random twist. Encounters like Lupi, Fire Shaman, or Mai Trin are only the tip of the iceberg in what GW2 has the potential of doing.

So, yes, you’re right, but it’s not the inability of the game, it’s the inadequacy of the content to utilize the tools available.

Wanze.8410:

You can try to look like me.

LOL!!!

Even worse..

There truth in that… XD

metaldude.4132:

Wanze.8410:

You can try to look like me.

LOL!!!

Even worse..

There truth in that… XD

THis game is all about looks anyways.
Besides that, the Title “Greatest Player in the Game” was claimed over 2 years ago.

By whom?

A Ranger of course.

Seeking “completeness” in a game that is continually evolving is not such a great idea. Also, trying to be “the best” is pretty pointless. Who even cares who the best is? The game is for you to enjoy. If you aren’t doing that, you’re wasting your time.

Wanze.8410:

metaldude.4132:

Wanze.8410:

You can try to look like me.

LOL!!!

Even worse..

There truth in that… XD

THis game is all about looks anyways.
Besides that, the Title “Greatest Player in the Game” was claimed over 2 years ago.

By whom?

A Ranger of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaWcAek5_JE

OMFG… you just HAD to remind me of that guy! lolololololol!!!

To answer the OP question…

If you wanna be the best, you gotta beat the rest!

From the PvE side, I think if you had:

• One toon of each profession with appropriate gear sets for both PvE and WvW content
• The ability to play all 8 in an effective manner
• A strong understanding of all builds, game mechanics, encounters, and strategies
• The ability to explain the above to other players in a way that they can understand and helps them be better

…you’d be among the absolute best players in the game.

Actually it’s quite possible to become the best in GW2, you just have to measure in skill, not stats or shiny things.

Start by mastering your class.

Master dodging.

Master changing gear in the middle of a dungeon quickly.

Master changing gear AND traits in the middle of a dungeon quickly.

Bring this out into the open world.

Be the guy who solos all the Terragrifs and rezzes the dead NPCs to save a fort in SW while all the other players around you are dead.

Being the best means being better than other players. That, in this game or in any other game, doesnt have anything to do with armor. Ive known people in wow with great armor and very poor output, and people with mediocre armor and great output (i cite wow because it’s often referred to as THE gear treadmill).

The only way to know if you are the best is to compare what you do with other players around you. I can farm like no one i’ve yet met and people tell me so when i go on my farming sprees. But i suck at speed clearing dungeons because i main a necro that doesnt contribute much to boost team damage (eles leave me crying)

Ive met people that can make a fractal run a very smooth experience thanks to their understanding of the content and their quickness to adapt.

Ive met people that know everything there is to know about events like teqatl or the x3 wurm, and they can mobilize and organize a bunch of people to beat these events.

Ive met really good commanders in wvw, that run armies with scouts and many specialised people, that know their strengths, and the other team’s and know when to engage in combat and when to retreat

You can also become really good in spvp, as part of a team (havent had the pleasure yet) or as a wildcard that knows how to read a match and knows when to steal a point or when to sneak past enemy defenses and kill the enemy lord. This is the most rewarding accomplishment ive experienced so far, as you can tip the balance of an unbalanced match just by knowing what to do despite being owned in direct fights.

Almost none of this requires that you get a better armor, you just need the correct set of stats and that’s it.

But, gw2 is a cooperative mmo at heartso being the best, specially for pve, is something irrelevant. Or not, you are the best when you know how to contribute better than anybody else.

Enjoy the game!

Actually it’s rather easy.

Step 1: Open GW2.
Step 2: Turn off game music, lower the volume of the sounds.
Step 3: Raise your speakers/headphone volume to the max.
Step 4: Open an internet browser in the background, play this in loop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-WHW-QNswE
Step 5: Enjoy..

Vukorep.3081:

Besides knowing your class and recognizing your enemies in pvp, is there any possible way to become the “best” in something that isnt pvp related?

The only think that help make you a better player in PvE is soloing everything you can and trying to get record beating everything you can. Dungeons, Bosses, etc.

A lot of stuff in dungeon, ppl just don’t see it when they play with 5 ppl. Fight are too short so you usually don’t go through all your active defence. You’ll have to make use you really understand an encounter because if you don’t, you’ll have to run again until you do, there is nobody there to rez you or to take the hit for you.

Good players can go through a dungeon really quick with a good group but will wipe with a bad group. Best players can leave baddies behind and continue alone if they have too. I’m far from being able to solo everything I plan to try, but that’s a nice goal if you want to be a better pve player.

If you have a couple of friends, trying to reach records run level in dungeon is also a nice challenge.