Guild Wars 2

something that has always bothered me, is that for some races (for example sylvari and Norn) the regular starting armor looks vastly different from the things they wear. in the tutorial you see all these npc’s with armor that matches their races, and the player starts with something that really clashes with the rest.
would you prefer to have all characters start with the first cultural armor tier instead? it would be of course unlocked as well, so only tier 2 and 3 would have to be bought.
what do you think?
after the starting armor, any other armor you get could stay the same, since we can go pretty much anywhere to level, so it doesn’t matter much.

Not a bad idea. It would add more immersion when you first start the game.

as someone who rolls Charr, I absolutely agree with this. I hate showing up to a major battle out-of-uniform.

I wish. I especially disliked running around in the light armor starting miniskirt. It fit none of my chars and I switched it out as soon as I could. Cultural armor would have been great to start out with.

I agree, the Tier 1 stuff doesn’t actually cost that much and probably is an unneeded gold sink (I could be wrong there). If for some reason a player wants the stats they can go purchase it once of level, but in the meanwhile since we no longer have the cultural town clothes that used to fill that need, why not use the T1 gear skins instead?

It will be best to have tier 0 cultural armor at launch.

It is too late for that now. What a pity.

Actually, it’s not too late. If they ever converted the tonic clothes to actual clothes, those would be in effect Tier 0. The wardrobe did many wonderful things for us but taking away the free cultural clothing gained on character creation was not one of them.

we used to have a free cultural clothing gained on character creation?

coso.9173:

we used to have a free cultural clothing gained on character creation?

The town clothes was race based and obtained freely on new cha.

Town clothes was converted to tonic when wardrobe is introduced.

aaw that sucks, I knew they were converted to tonics, but I didn’t know we actually earned one on character creation…

coso.9173:

aaw that sucks, I knew they were converted to tonics, but I didn’t know we actually earned one on character creation…

At launch, every new character came with a default town clothes and thats what we were talking about.

Yes. Back then town clothes had their own panel in the Hero Panel. The starting ones were chest, pants, and shoes, with dye channels. You couldn’t fight in them. If you took even 1 hp falling damage they swapped back to combat clothes. Eventually we got a hotkey to toggle between combat and town clothes. Also we got a number of nice casual garments individually purchased from the gem store that we could mix and match, including mixing them with the starter set.

For instance, here’s my human guardian, the guy on the left, in the hoodie, starter pants, and either starter shoes or fancy winter outfit boots, I don’t recall which as the trousers covered them pretty well.

I never got to play before the town clothes removal. I never understood why they made them tonics. I mean if they had to remove to make the outfit system, wouldn’t it have been better to turn into outfits? tonics are the worst solution they could have come up with…
But anyway, I feel that with giving people the tier 1 of cultural armor we would look much more like the npc’s and people in the starting areas and tutorial.

Nice idea, about 4 years too late though. Also they don’t want you in something nice, they want you to buy stuff of the Gem store, or use T-stones.

The starter skirt for human light armor is one of my favorite items in the game. I don’t think we stay in any armor long enough for it to matter to be honest. Most of the time I am upleveling I just wear whatever the game throws at me until I hit 80

I like the idea, the scale plate of a Sylvari don’t look good on them. Always have to wear the wedding attre outfit for my Sylvari to hide it.

coso.9173:

we used to have a free cultural clothing gained on character creation?

Actually, it wasn’t really, anymoreso than any generic armor is ‘cultural’ because it’s modified to fit. Frankly, I wish the town clothes actually was customized to match common outfits worn by civilians of the race (And then turned into an outfit, not tonic. Apparently, the developers were concerned more with keeping town clothes out of combat than they were with keeping it functional.)

I’d love to be able to wear some of the fur-revealing clothes worn by Charr civilians and off-duty soldiers.

It was cultural. Each race/gender had its own set of town clothes, and some NPCs wear them even now, or pieces of them. They equipped in their own panel. If you wanted to mix in purchased town clothes items you had to use inventory space to hold the swapped-out items. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Endless_Common_Clothing_Tonic has a gallery of them — those were shirt/chest/boots sets we got with every character we created, and could dye. Now they are only non-combat 15 minute undyeable tonics.

This was separate from the universal starter armor that is generic across all races.